From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #104 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, April 24 2005 Volume 14 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse ["Nora B." ] Re: Serendib [James Dignan ] Re: Serendib ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse [Jeff ] Re: Flkz you missed, or... [Vendren ] Re: Bands I'll never see..... [Vendren ] Re: Bands I'll never see..... [Vendren ] Re: Bands I'll never see..... ["Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" ] Something amiss with Miss Bliss (reap) [Eb ] Ghibli at Berkeley [steve ] Re: Flkz you missed, or... [steve ] Fwd: Robyn/Egyptians Globe of Frogs "silkscreen" promo poster o'er eBay @ $9 [MPys2626@ao] RE:furiously beating a stuffed dead horse ["David Stovall" ] movie news [Dolph Chaney ] Re: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:12:48 -0700 From: "Nora B." Subject: Re: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com said: > Okay...is anyone here actually excited about seeing the new Star Wars? I'm actually excited. My inner 8 year old is ecstatic.Of course I'm prepared to be disappointed but as long as they have Natalie Portman running around in a tight outfit again i'll be more than happy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:07:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Oh, one other thing On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Eb wrote: > But there's a big difference between licensing an original song where > everyone hears it and instantly recognizes it, and doing a mainstream > instrumental arrangement of a snippet of an underground song I hate to break it to you, but Lou Reed hasn't been "underground" for well over thirty years. > ...then mixing it so low into the commercial that most people won't even > consciously perceive it. Most people don't consciously perceive the music in most commercials. > I betcha Lou Reed doesn't even know about this. On what do you base this wild assertion? Granted, he's probably just handed the whole process over to some management firm that sets prices and endorses checks for him, so maybe he doesn't personally know about it. But there's nothing in the man's past behavior that would lead me to believe he's not totally supportive of whatever exploitation he can manipulate. Quoth Too Much Joy, "Lou's hawkin' scooters and American Express". > And perhaps there are enough subtle little differences in the two riffs > that he doesn't even have grounds for a lawsuit. Could be circus music, for sure. But for melodies and stuff, it's quite often cheaper to pay to use it than to pay to compose it and license the new original composition. I don't even know what to call this business of preventing the use of information for money, but I know it's absolutely counter-productive in every way. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:07:28 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Serendib > > -Lauren, avoiding the word "serendipitous" like the plague that it is > >Bah phooey, it's a lovely word. It is. I discovered this word by accident, quite fortuitously. James PS- in all seriousness, I discovered it via Dr. Who ("The green death", IIRC - one of the last of the Pertwee stories). - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:21:29 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Serendib James Dignan wrote: > > PS- in all seriousness, I discovered it via Dr. Who ("The green death", > IIRC - one of the last of the Pertwee stories). Yup; wasn't it the name of the hippie food that killed the giant maggots? The Doctor's assistant from that storyline went on to her own show, a sort of crafts thing called 'Serendipity'. woohoo, I'm going to see Of Montreal tonight. To record, or not to record? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:21:29 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse On 4/23/05, Nora B. wrote: > jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com said: > > Okay...is anyone here actually excited about seeing the new Star Wars? > > I'm actually excited. My inner 8 year old is ecstatic.Of course I'm > prepared to be disappointed but as long as they have Natalie Portman > running around in a tight outfit again i'll be more than happy Fair enough. If you could bring a camcorder in and just tape those scenes, that'd be great. (I actually just typed "greta" - ah ha!) - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:21:39 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: guero sunlandic > so, no responses to Beck's newest? Or to Of Montreal's latest insanity? > I like both. Still getting used to Beck's. Of Montreal's initially disappointed (I loved Satanic Panic) but I am definitely warming up to it. Palle np: Kings Of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:05:45 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: Flkz you missed, or... > 10. Jefferson Airplane > It goes without saying that I'm not talking about the ghastly Papa John > Creach era. Not sure I would want to see them. In every piece of live footage I've seen of them they sound just awful. > 13. Pink Floyd > Syd era, The Wall era, Dark Side era...whatever! I saw post-Waters Pink Floyd. It was a joke, one of the worst shows I've seen. Shorly afterwards I saw Waters play a 1000 person venue, and he was amazing. He did a lot of Floyd stuff, with Paul Carrack (of all people) singing the bits that Gilmour sang. > 18. Creedence Clearwater Revival Saw John Fogerty, and he did a bunch of CCR tunes. Not really the same though. > 33. XTC Saw them, must have been '80. Opening act was the Police. Those were the days. > 36. Husker Du I barely remember the show for some reason. I may have been too drunk. It was loud - I remember that. May be as bad as having missed it altogether. Still miss that band. Palle np: Doves - Some Cities ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:13:42 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: Bands I'll never see..... > p.s. New Order circa Power Corruption & Lies > > I saw New Order in 1984 and they were horrible - horrible sound, horrible > songs, horrible people. Interesting. I saw them for what may have been the same tour, and it remains one of the most exciting events I have ever attended. The playing was as good as I've ever heard, the sound was pristine, and the show has a tremendous flow to it. The band never once spoke during the set. But afterwards I found Sumner and Morris to be friendly; happy to mix with the crowd and chat over a beer. I generally consider it to be the third best show I've ever attended (behind the Pogues' Grace With God tour and the Jazz Butcher's Condition Blue tour). Palle np: Dove - Some Cities ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:18:22 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: Bands I'll never see..... From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Bands I'll never see..... >I think the only band that I really would have enjoyed live, but now can > never see, would be The Beta Band. I had ample opportunity, but always > thought, "Next time ..." I went to see Soul Asylum in '95, mostly to catch the opening act, Radiohead. Of course Radiohead blew Soul Asylum away. Enough so that I felt bad for Soul Asylum, even though I wasn't much of a fan. Then a few years later I went to see Radiohead, mostly for the opening act, The Beta Band. It pretty much went the same way. Palle np: John Cale - Vintage Violence ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:30:24 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth (gmail)" Subject: Re: Bands I'll never see..... Vendren says: > I went to see Soul Asylum in '95, mostly to catch the opening act, > Radiohead. I've wondered whether I imagined this, but I think the one time I saw Husker Du, Soul Asylum was the opening act. It would have been late-era Husker Du - probably when "Candy Apple Grey" was released, maybe 1988 or 1989. Does this ring a bell to anyone or should it remain filed under "my imagination"? Whoever it was, they were louder than Husker Du, too loud IMO. Then again, the venue looked more like a banquet hall than a good place to hear a band. xo Lauren - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I hate all music. Except 'Roadrunner' by The Modern Lovers." - John Lydon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:55:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Flkz you missed, or... Vendren wrote: > Saw [XTC], must have been '80. Opening act was the Police. Yowsa. > the Jazz Butcher's Condition Blue tour Top three? Really? I saw that tour, and I doubt it was even my favorite Jazz Butcher show. (I think I saw JB three times.) > I went to see Soul Asylum in '95, mostly to catch the opening act, > Radiohead. Of course Radiohead blew Soul Asylum away. That's because you should have seen Soul Asylum during the late '80s, instead. ;) And when will someone get wise, and start presenting Radiohead shows in Sensurround? If it worked for disaster movies, imagine what it would do for Thom Yorke's head. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:04:48 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Something amiss with Miss Bliss (reap) LONDON (Reuters) - British actor Sir John Mills, who won an Oscar in 1971 for his portrayal of a mute village idiot in "Ryan's Daughter," died on Saturday aged 97, a trustee for his estate said. "Sir John died this morning at around 6:30 (1:30 a.m. EDT). He'd been ill for about a month with a chest infection," the trustee told Reuters. "He remained remarkably lucid until the end." Mills made his name in patriotic films during and after World War II including "The October Man," "Scott of the Antarctic," "Dunkirk" and "Ice Cold in Alex." Handsome and dapper, he embodied to many the archetypal British war hero, either as the cool-headed gentleman officer or the resigned working class soldier. [clip] Born on Feb. 22, 1908 in Felixstowe, eastern England, John Lewis Mills started in the theater at the age of 19, helped in part by his friendship with Noel Coward. His output in the 1940s and 1950s was prolific. During his long career he appeared in more than 100 films. He also fathered one of Britain's leading theatrical families. Both his daughters, Juliet and Hayley, are successful actresses who found their stage feet at an early age in some of their father's productions. Mills, who was knighted by Queen Elizabeth in 1977, was divorced from his first wife, the actress Aileen Raymond, in 1940 after nine years of marriage. He is survived by his second wife, Mary Hayley Bell. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:42:53 -0500 From: steve Subject: Ghibli at Berkeley If anybody is close to UC Berkeley, Ghibli films are showing June 2 - 30. Don't miss Pom Poko! - - Steve __________ Al Franken: Clintons military did pretty well in Iraq, huh? Paul Wolfowitz: Fuck you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:50:03 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Flkz you missed, or... On Apr 23, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Vendren wrote: >> 33. XTC > > Saw them, must have been '80. Opening act was the Police. Those were > the days. I saw them on that tour, and XTC *opened* in Dallas. That was just before the Police moved on to the big arenas and the show was at SMU. We left before the Police finished and could still hear them two blocks away. That may have had something to do with the hall, but they did have it turned up pretty close to liquify. - - Steve __________ We stretch out both of our arms Pass through the clouds, straight to the sky And even though we touched the Moon and Mars We still cannot touch the truth. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:34:12 EDT From: MPys2626@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Robyn/Egyptians Globe of Frogs "silkscreen" promo poster o'er eBay @ $9 Return-path: From: MPys2626@aol.com Full-name: MPys2626 Message-ID: <19e.3213ef08.2f9c270f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:47 EDT Subject: Robyn/Egyptians Globe of Frogs "silkscreen" promo poster o'er eBay @ $9 To: iangray@bigpond.net.au, tarot@ixxos.com, AnotherEarth@gmail.com, sue_campbell@esat.net.au, purplepagoda@gmail.com, MBaroneO@aol.com, chrispy@a-znet.com, balladear@hotmail.com, warrnpeace@ameritech.net, WarrnPeace@aol.com, HCFazz@aol.com, FullartonR@aol.com, greghmmstar@b2b2c.ca, beckers4@shaw.ca, jgc.arnot@gmail.com, scanman723@yahoo.com, jjascomb@yahoo.com, jlmicek@comcast.net, ahscrewit03@yahoo.com, gardenstatekate@gmail.com, craigie@boltblue.net, youamwho@yahoo.com, marcsonic@yahoo.com, pvvazquez@verizon.net, arendel@ripco.com, sittingstill@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5012 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain _http://tinyurl.com/7wpkc_ (http://tinyurl.com/7wpkc) This one it seems the manfesto bits are printed in black over the blue of Bob's bodily background ...mine, it's red on blue ...mine is autographed too, NYAH NYAH... but this, if it's the screened other than the litho print is going for a song and should be hanging on the *right* and proper wall! m "Bad artists copy. Good artists steal" Pablo Picasso ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:27:20 -0700 From: "David Stovall" Subject: RE:furiously beating a stuffed dead horse >From: Jeff >Subject: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse > >Okay...is anyone here actually excited about seeing the new Star Wars? > >Does anyone here even know anyone (pre-teens excluded) who's excited >about seeing the new Star Wars? I live in Indianapolis. There's a Star Wars convention going on here even as I type. Apparently, there are 30,000-plus people in attendance. Thursday (I guess that was the opening day) I was driving past the convention center in town during work hours, and had to wait for several Darths and stormtroopers crossing the road. And a lot of more generic-goth-looking, erm, individuals. Dunno what the crossover there is. So apparently, yeah, there are quite a few people excited about it. But I'm not one of 'em. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:39:27 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse >> Okay...is anyone here actually excited about seeing the new > Star Wars? > By Liza Foreman LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - After playing an elf and an anchorman on the big screen, Will Ferrell is venturing into "Land of the Lost" for Universal. The "Saturday Night Live" alumnus is attached to star in a "Land of the Lost" comedy feature based on the 1974-77 television series of the same name. Universal acquired the feature rights from Sid and Marty Krofft, executive producers of the original NBC series, who will produce the feature for the studio. Jimmy Miller and Julie Wixson-Darmody also will produce via the Mosaic Media Group banner. Adam McKay, a former "SNL" writer who directed Ferrell in "Anchorman," is attached to direct, with Chris Henchy and Dennis McNicholas signing on to adapt the screenplay. The series revolved around forest ranger Rick Marshall and his children, Will and Holly, who are caught in a time vortex while rafting on the Colorado River and transported to a mysterious world populated by dinosaurs. The feature film will be an update of the series, which is due out on DVD this month. Ferrell, currently onscreen in Woody Allen's "Melinda and Melinda," will next be seen in Universal's comedy "Kicking & Screaming" and will star opposite Nicole Kidman in this summer's "Bewitched." He is playing Franz Liebkind in the film version of Mel Brooks' Broadway hit "The Producers," to be released domestically by Universal on Dec. 21. The Kroffts are behind such TV projects as "Lidsville, "The Bay City Rollers Show," "The Brady Bunch Hour," "Donny and Marie," "Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters" and "H.R. Pufnstuf," which Universal also made into a feature film. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:40:19 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: movie news At 09:39 PM 4/23/2005, Eb wrote: >>>Okay...is anyone here actually excited about seeing the new >>Star Wars? >By Liza Foreman LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - After playing an elf >and an anchorman on the big screen, Will Ferrell is venturing into >"Land of the Lost" for Universal. > >The "Saturday Night Live" alumnus is attached to star in a "Land of the >Lost" comedy feature based on the 1974-77 television series of the same >name...The series revolved around forest ranger Rick Marshall and his >children, Will and Holly... My favorite thing about this is that Will Ferrell played a character called Marshall Willenholly in "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back". Hee. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 21:49:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse Eb wrote: > By Liza Foreman LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - [Will > Ferrell] is playing Franz Liebkind in the film version > of Mel Brooks' Broadway hit "The Producers," to be > released domestically by Universal on Dec. 21. Too bad Zero Mostel is too dead and Gene Wilder is too old, because they'd be great in a film version of "The Producers." Grrrrrrrrr. "I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." -- Mitch Hedberg . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:08:14 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: furiously beating a stuffed dead horse On 4/23/05, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Eb wrote: > > By Liza Foreman LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - [Will > > Ferrell] is playing Franz Liebkind in the film version > > of Mel Brooks' Broadway hit "The Producers," to be > > released domestically by Universal on Dec. 21. > > Too bad Zero Mostel is too dead and Gene Wilder is too old, > because they'd be great in a film version of "The > Producers." Grrrrrrrrr. I'm waiting for remake-mania to crossbreed with new-edition-of-album-five-months-later-mania so that we get remakes of remakes a year afterwards. In fact, since we've made and remade movies from movies, TV shows, comics, videogames, and for all I know, advertisements, we should start making movies based on other media, like bathroom graffiti, cereal boxtops, and scrawlings on the inner grooves of old LPs. And then remake them a few months later. It couldn't be any worse, could it? - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:23:41 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: of montreal I'm just back from seeing them. If they are playing *anywhere* near you, you *must* see them. I think it's the best show I've ever been to. Seriously, go see them. I mean that. Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V14 #104 ********************************