From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #73 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 21 2005 Volume 14 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Le Chateau Ambulant, English version (NR) [steve ] Re: the all-American Rapture, Ann Coulter [Barbara Soutar ] Re: a round of Wellbutrin for everyone... [wojizzle forizzle ] NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock - 00/00/1995 Moss Elixir Demos (soft boys) [wojizzle forizzle ] Re: ohmygosh a music thread [Miles Goosens ] Re: Robyn in Nashville, 3-20-2005 [Miles Goosens ] RE: the all-American Rapture, Ann Coulter ["Brian Huddell" ] RE: some politics, then music! ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Incidental to "24" fans [Rex Broome ] Re: ohmygosh a music thread [Rex Broome ] Re: the all-American Rapture, Ann Coulter [Jeff ] Re: Incidental to "24" fans [Jeff ] Re: Incidental to "24" fans [Rex Broome ] Re: some politics, then music [Barbara Soutar ] RE: the all-American Rapture, Ann Coulter ["Brian Huddell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:22:15 -0600 From: steve Subject: Le Chateau Ambulant, English version (NR) Like he always does, Miyazaki has changed things a good bit, but Diana Wynne Jones is pleased with the result. FWIT, Disney is thinking about doing a live action Kiki's Delivery Service, based on the original material rather than the animated film. The line-up, as we know it - Director: Pete Docter Howl: Christian Bale Old Sophie: Jean Simmons Young Sophie: Emily Mortimer The Witch of the Waste: Lauren Bacall Calcifer: Billy Crystal Madamm Salliman: Blythe Danner Markl: Josh Hutcherson Howl as a blonde reminds me of a young Robin Zander, although taller. Maybe it's the haircut. Rumored release schedule: NYC, LA, and SF on June 10, and in other 60 cities on June 17. Trailer Japanese site - - Steve __________ Lighting fire on the untouchable fang Like solving a problem without looking up at the stars Like there's no need to yell until the voice is gone ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:51:13 -0500 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: the all-American Rapture, Ann Coulter Brian in New Orleans said: "Your insistence that Canadians are somehow immune to the wackier aspects of Christianity or conservatism isn't controversial either. It's just funny. OK, I guess it's also annoying. It's like you can't get interested in an idea unless it presents you with an opportunity for chauvinism. That's what people are responding to." You see a kind of one-upmanship in my remarks that isn't there. You're assuming that I care about positioning myself in a pissing match, a Canada-is-better than the States kind of contest. Not true. I often point out the lack of an end-times belief in Canada to Americans, to make the point that it's not a Christian belief but a Republican ploy to harness the votes of Christians. I have a friend Sharon who attends a Canadian Evangelical Christian church and last year I asked her if they ever mention The Rapture concept here - she said they didn't. So it's not because our Christians are smarter or anything, it's just that billions of dollars and a whole lot of effort hasn't been poured into the project here. The great part is that we have less Evangelical Christians, therefore they have little to no power in Canada. I fear your government will literally hasten the coming of the end-times if they continue with their strange and aggressive actions in the Middle East. This worries me, so I make a nuisance of myself trying to spread anti-Rapture information like Johnny Appleseed used to spread Swedenborg pamphlets (as well as planting apple seeds). Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Obscurities On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Vendren wrote: > > 36. Seconds of Pleasure - Rockpile > > Great little pop album. I've never found a CD copy. Where have you been looking? http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001Z3U56 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:20:57 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: Re: a round of Wellbutrin for everyone... one time at band camp, Stewart C. Russell said: >Matt Sewell wrote: >>"Special" brownies and organic beer for me please! > >I think we'd have to hold it in Canada to make it really "special" ... or at least medicinal. +w n.p. the sawtelles on wnhu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:27:37 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: Re: [VegFriends] rh on the radio / SXSW one time at band camp, Carrie Galbraith said: >On 17/mar/05, at 22:46, jeff albertson ha scritto: > >>----- Forwarded message from "Neil A. Gerdes" ----- >>3/17/05 - tonight 6.30PM central time i belive robyn >>is being interviewed, possibly singing, i'm not sure. >>radio KGSR has streaming audio for your listening >>pleasure. >> >As I understand Fegmaniax these days, this post is completely irrelevant. well, it was cc'ed to fegmaniax-announce. those who disapprove may set up a filter to delete anything posted to both lists to the trash. or, really, nearly anything i post for that matter. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:19:12 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock - 00/00/1995 Moss Elixir Demos (soft boys) http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=33487&hit=1 >Title: Robyn Hitchcock - 00/00/1995 Moss Elixir Demos (soft boys) >Size: 309.75 MB >Category: Alternate >Uploaded by: NimrodSonny > >Description >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Robyn Hitchcock >Moss Elixir Demos >CDR => Toast => AIFF =>xACT=> FLAC (8) > >Moss Elixir Demos: >01. Each Of Her Silver Wands >02. I Am Not Me >03. The Speed of Things >04. They'll Tell Me All About You (???) >05. Instrumental * >06. Surfer Ghost >07. A Happy Bird is a Filthy Bird >08. Statue With a Walkman >09. De Chirico Street >10. I Something You >11. Zipper in My Spine >12. Man with a Woman's Shadow >13. Heliotrope >14. This Is How It Feels > >(???) not sure of the title >* I know the name of this, but like most of the 1990's I can't recall it. > >Notes: >The demos are nice. I think you will like this. I got this in a trade >some time ago. > >**THESE ARE DIFFERENT VERSIONS AND ARE NOT COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE** > > >I hope you enjoy! > >mike / midy / herbie / nimrodsonny > >Fingerprints: >01.flac: 41f3578840472b67d1af8b581064fc3a >02.flac: ac4c2a4a6bb298699359980983de35b6 >03.flac: c383e16323dd2f5a5053e20195f1657c >04.flac: 2b0b7946f945686aba700785690b9a5e >05.flac: e2434fe5c003a4f36c7a0dd437c15b15 >06.flac: 0a4c975b55753e444d2c9bb7fc68e692 >07.flac: e371743464e161751338ee30b12d3f42 >08.flac: bd6696883285bb902927bd2ca1922d60 >09.flac: 52dc4b7bc0785ac8c914a798051f4dde >10.flac: 63a81b2e53931c54ff66b28bcb00c58f >11.flac: 938780e2fa0c6576f148531db5122086 >12.flac: 2c1a48786bd9b5233e95b4c2f6867e82 >13.flac: 485823ea206b2bdd91adb3dc2e7af492 >14.flac: 041dffb5143ba37944f00a791ff3cad4 >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:22:44 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Robyn in Nashville, 3-20-2005 no opening act "Brenda's Iron Sledge" - GilNDave come out alone, acoustic guitars, and perform the song themselves. Robyn does not emerge until just before the final verse, then sings lead the rest of the way through. Did someone slip GilNDave a copy of GLASS FLESH or what? Kevin Z. Slick, take a bow. "Miss Ohio" - Robyn takes up an acoustic guitar, Jim Boquist of Son Volt fame joins on electric bass, and to reverse the roles of the opening number, Robyn sings lead all the way through on a GilNDave song. Then it's all of SPOOKED in order, sans "Welcome To Earth," with the above people playing all the parts you know from the record, mostly Gil on drums, though Jim played barely audible brushes on one song. Robyn finished his introduction/explanation of the SPOOKED section with "Just pretend that we're David Gilmour," which cracked me up. The perfect pun for the evening! "Television" "If You Know Time" "Everybody Needs Love" "English Girl" "Demons & Fiends" "Creeped Out" "Sometimes a Blonde" "We're Gonna Live in the Trees" (yes, with Dave on drills + electric guitar) "Tryin' To Get To Heaven Before They Close the Door" (Dylan) "Full Moon in My Soul" (Robyn explains they're not playing "Welcome To Earth" because "humor has no place in live music") "Flanagan's Song" Then a selection of songs that Robyn says that they played for each other during the recording of SPOOKED. Many were medley-fied and are indicated as such: "Bang a Gong (Get It On)" (Bolan) / "I Just Want To Make Love To You" (Dixon) / "Tombstone Blues" (Dylan) "Tears of Rage" (Dylan/Manuel) "Luminous Rose" - lead vocal by Dave, backing by Gil, Robyn on acoustic only "Elvis Presley Blues" (Welch/Rawlings) - lead vocal by Robyn "Dear Prudence" (Lennon/McCartney) Encore: "Flesh #1 (Beatle Dennis)" / "More Than This" (Ferry) - going back into "Flesh #1" by the end "Waiting For My Man" (Reed) "Lo and Behold!" (Dylan) / "Life During Wartime" (Talking Heads) - going back into "Lo and Behold!" to finish up, very approximate lyrics for the "Life During Wartime" segment Total time: a shade over two hours Sartorial report: blue jeans + light green shirt with spring/pastel floral design at bottom of shirt. Blinking: heavy Mood: still fit, still happier than I've ever seen him, least banter I've heard at a Robyn show but it was an unusual one, so it's not surprising that he'd Annoyance: guy with booming voice who tried to engage Robyn in banter after almost every song in the regular set, and whose yelling continued into the beginning of several songs. Someone from the Belcourt (the venue) finally spoke to him during the last song of the regular set, and he either quieted down or couldn't be heard over the somewhat noisier encores, and that was good. But he should have been thrown out about 80 minutes earlier. In a nutshell: My first comment after it was over was "Well, that was fun [and it was!], but now I'm ready for a Robyn Hitchcock show." It's not the Robyn show I wanted, and in fact, I would have rather had any setlist from any other show on this tour. "Flavour of Night," "Somewhere Apart"... sigh. I had to look at it this way: Robyn's previous two Nashville shows came at intervals of five (1992 to 1997) and seven (1997 to 2004) years, and if it weren't for SPOOKED being recorded here, I likely wouldn't have gotten another Robyn show until 2013. And this beats that. Random observations: * Jim Boquist *still* looks perpetually cowed, like Jay Farrar is going to yell at him at any minute but if he can just hide near the back of the stage and no one sees him, maybe it won't happen, maybe not this time... * GilNDave still interest me far more backing other people than they do when playing the Gillian Welch stuff. * Kudos to GilNDave for picking "Luminous Rose" and for whatever consensus brought out "Flesh #1." I do love me some GLOBE OF FROGS. * It's not that SPOOKED's songs are that poor, it's the combination of (1) them not being "A" material, (2) that I don't have any desire to hear all of them together, (3) that after LUXOR about the last thing I wanted was ten or twelve more mostly-acoustic mostly-mellow songs. Live, the songs have more energy, as expected, but I still had no desire to hear all of them. Damn you, Internet, tantalizing me with those other tour setlists! * "Flanagan's Song" is by far the best thing on SPOOKED. Too bad it's saddled with that unmemorable title. I even had to look it up again when I got home - my setlist just says "the good song that ends SPOOKED." * The show was being videoed and recorded, and Robyn said (from the stage) that the intention was to release the show. So don't bitch at me about not taping shows, o.k.? All of y'all might get to see and/or hear this one, provided that Robyn isn't deterred by Sociopathic Yelling Man's contributions. * I didn't stick around afterwards. And that's all I have to say for now. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:42:11 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: ohmygosh a music thread On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:01:57 -0800, Marc Alberts wrote: > I find this to be the case as well, although I often find two or three songs > that really seem to be quintessential instead of just one. On I OFTEN DREAM > OF TRAINS, there are half a dozen that really seem defining, and it's hard > to say whether "Bones in the Ground" or "My Favorite Buildings" or "I Used > to Say I Loved You" or any of the others really are "the" song of the album. Doesn't anyone else find it ironic that *none* of the songs Marc named were actually on I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS? Yeah, yeah, I know they've been right in the middle of it since the first CD edition of IODOT, but still, you're basically saying that you love the "Bells of Rhymney" EP. :-) > Maybe this just comes from my perception from the first Robyn album I ever > heard (GLOBE OF FROGS, for those who are wondering) and really liking it > primarily because none of the songs really sounded at all like the others to > me. GLOBE OF FROGS is seriously underrated. I realize that when I support GROOVY DECaY, it's a lost cause, and though I disagree with the consensus, I do get why most everyone (including Mr. Hitchcock himself) finds it problematic. But after all these years on Feg, I still can't figure out why people hate on GoF. I mean, I have some ideas, yes - the automatic more-alt-than-thou factor that kicks in when artists go to a major label, "Balloon Man"'s quasi-hit status, guest spot by an artist from a more commercially succesful band, etc., etc. But the damn thing delivers the goods -- everything Robyn does can be found on this album, and he does all of it very well. It's a true tour de force of an artist at his absolute peak, moving from strength to strength. And as for "unrepresentative" songs, "Ballon Man" certainly does represent a sort of song that's very characteristic of Robyn. Yes, his range is far greater, which I think is what is at the heart of the "unrepresentative' complaint (along with it being the "one Robyn song non-fans might know" and annoyance with "oh, the 'Balloon Man' guy"), but anyone getting into Robyn is going to hear a clutch of songs in a similar vein. He's more than that, sure, but "Balloon Man" is a part of who he is, and newbies might as well know it and deal accordingly. I like the song, actually. :-) later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:00:41 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Robyn in Nashville, 3-20-2005 I said: > Mood: still fit, still happier than I've ever seen him, least banter > I've heard at a Robyn show but it was an unusual one, so it's not > surprising that he'd ...be talking more with the rest of the band than with the audience. They rehearsed yesterday and for several hours today before the show, and I think Jim Boquist wasn't around for all of it. Everyone did a great job, though - I don't think the average audience member would have sussed that this was essentially a one-off band. Speaking of the average audience member, he or she was likely to be more of a GilNDave fan, i.e., more than a little on the NPR/granola tip. The guy next to Melissa had to keep explaining to his girlfriend who Robyn was and which ones weren't Welch/Rawlings songs. It was fun to see people be awed by Robyn's picking on stuff like "If You Know Time" - Rawlings is a weirdo mofo geetar genius, sure, but they weren't ready for Robyn's mad skillz in that department. :-) later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:10:08 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: the all-American Rapture, Ann Coulter > I fear your > government will literally hasten the coming of the end-times > if they continue with their strange and aggressive actions in > the Middle East. We certainly agree on that. +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:47:47 -0800 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: ohmygosh a music thread Miles wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:01:57 -0800, Marc Alberts > wrote: > > I find this to be the case as well, although I often find two or three > songs > > that really seem to be quintessential instead of just one. On I OFTEN > DREAM > > OF TRAINS, there are half a dozen that really seem defining, and it's > hard > > to say whether "Bones in the Ground" or "My Favorite Buildings" or "I > Used > > to Say I Loved You" or any of the others really are "the" song of the > album. > > Doesn't anyone else find it ironic that *none* of the songs Marc named > were actually on I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS? Yeah, yeah, I know they've > been right in the middle of it since the first CD edition of IODOT, > but still, you're basically saying that you love the "Bells of > Rhymney" EP. :-) Well, since I didn't discover Robyn until Globe of Frogs, and thus my first exposure to IODOT was the CD version, I hope you'll forgive me for not knowing the difference. I didn't even know that Bells had been an EP! Some fegmaniac I am! > > > Maybe this just comes from my perception from the first Robyn album I > ever > > heard (GLOBE OF FROGS, for those who are wondering) and really liking it > > primarily because none of the songs really sounded at all like the > others to > > me. > > GLOBE OF FROGS is seriously underrated. I realize that when I support > GROOVY DECaY, it's a lost cause, and though I disagree with the > consensus, I do get why most everyone (including Mr. Hitchcock > himself) finds it problematic. But after all these years on Feg, I > still can't figure out why people hate on GoF. I mean, I have some > ideas, yes - the automatic more-alt-than-thou factor that kicks in > when artists go to a major label, "Balloon Man"'s quasi-hit status, > guest spot by an artist from a more commercially succesful band, etc., > etc. But the damn thing delivers the goods -- everything Robyn does > can be found on this album, and he does all of it very well. It's a > true tour de force of an artist at his absolute peak, moving from > strength to strength. What can I say? I'm a sucker for "Vibrating". Of course, since I came in on the GoF chapter, I don't hold any grudges about it in the least. It's not my favorite Robyn album (or even second or third favorite), but it is solidly middle-of-the-pack for me, and I do enjoy it. Does this make me a bad Robyn fan? I'm sure I'll find out shortly.... ;-) > And as for "unrepresentative" songs, "Ballon Man" certainly does > represent a sort of song that's very characteristic of Robyn. Yes, > his range is far greater, which I think is what is at the heart of the > "unrepresentative' complaint (along with it being the "one Robyn song > non-fans might know" and annoyance with "oh, the 'Balloon Man' guy"), > but anyone getting into Robyn is going to hear a clutch of songs in a > similar vein. He's more than that, sure, but "Balloon Man" is a part > of who he is, and newbies might as well know it and deal accordingly. > I like the song, actually. :-) It's an ok song, but like GoF is middle o' the pack for Robyn albums, so is "Balloon Man" middle o' the pack for GoF songs for me. Strangely, it was only the first one I heard because it was first on the CD--I picked it up while bored in college, took it to the (then cutting edge) listening bar that we had at Discovery Discs in the basement of Houston Hall at Penn and popped it in. I liked how it sounded so different from the other stuff I was listening to at the time (The Cure, U2, Peter Gabriel and Tom Waits) and from then on I was hooked. But prior, I had only heard a few Soft Boys songs back when I was too young to really appreciate what they were doing and didn't make any connection between the two. This was at a time as well when I had no cable to get MTV on, nor a decent college radio station that I could pick up, so no one I knew really knew Robyn, either. As it turned out, my best friend (attending Cal, about as far from Penn as one can get without leaving the continental US) was being re-introduced to "Underwater Moonlight" through his roommate, so despite being 2500 miles apart or so, our musical tastes were still very much in sync. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:28:32 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: some politics, then music! Marc wrote: >Shane MacGowan is forever celebrating his winning > bet on a horse called "Bottle of Smoke". I picking the unnamed horse that Shane got on a lucky one, came in eighteen to one, from "Fairy Tail of New York City" as the song that I always associate Shane with. Not to mention, it's may also the best original rock song about Christmas of all time. Michael B. NP The English Beat - I Just Can't Stop It ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:57:31 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: some politics, then music Barbara: > "In some kind of weird way, I thought of it as my "I Walk the Line," a > song I'd always considered to be up there at the top, one of the most > mysterious and revolutionary of all time, a song that makes an attack on > your most vulnerable spots, sharp words from a master." I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Dylan's not aware of a glaringly obvious subconscious connection he's made here. He may view the song (which I like a lot) as definitive, but I think he goes on to associate it with Cash based on word association. It is, after all, entitled "The Man In (The Long) Black (Coat)"... think about it. Off-topic in a sense, but instructive of an artist not always being aware of what he's doing... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:20:23 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Incidental to "24" fans > 24 is the kind of TV show that begs endless questions, but those > familiar with the Go-Betweens -- a semi-obscure '80s Australian pop > band -- are fixated on one in particular. Did the Fox drama name a > shady company McLennan-Forster as a wink to the group's co-frontmen, > Grant McLennan and Robert Forster? "Frankly, it has a great ring," says > 24 exec producer Evan Katz. "It seemed like a good opporunity to pay > homage to a very talented cult band." Being off TV for some time now, and 24 being one of the only shows I miss, I just found out about this yesterday and laughed my ass off... 'cuz the list will recall how the Go-Betweens were once indeed part of an evil conspiracy to assassinate me. - -Rex, turning a random thread into something all about himself just to make Quail happy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:39:14 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: ohmygosh a music thread Miles: > GLOBE OF FROGS is seriously underrated. I realize that when I support > GROOVY DECaY, it's a lost cause, and though I disagree with the > consensus, I do get why most everyone (including Mr. Hitchcock > himself) finds it problematic. But after all these years on Feg, I > still can't figure out why people hate on GoF. I mean, I have some > ideas, yes - the automatic more-alt-than-thou factor that kicks in > when artists go to a major label, "Balloon Man"'s quasi-hit status, > guest spot by an artist from a more commercially succesful band, etc., > etc. But the damn thing delivers the goods -- everything Robyn does > can be found on this album, and he does all of it very well. It's a > true tour de force of an artist at his absolute peak, moving from > strength to strength. The archives are probably lousy with me saying this, but I agree. GoF was the first Robyn I heard as well, and it remains to me his quintessential, if not best record, and since I like so much of what the guys does it stands to reason that his quintessential record would also rank high on my list of favorites. It's alway in my top three of his records and always will be, I reckon. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:03:01 -0800 From: Jeff Subject: Re: the all-American Rapture, Ann Coulter On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:51:13 -0500, Barbara Soutar wrote: > You see a kind of one-upmanship in my remarks that isn't there. You're assuming that I care about positioning myself in a pissing match, a Canada-is-better than the States kind of contest. Not true. I often point out the lack of an end-times belief in Canada to Americans, to make the point that it's not a Christian belief but a Republican ploy to harness the votes of Christians. While it's true, as far as I can tell (and I'm no expert), that the whole Rapture scenario is not actually in the Bible (there are a few scattered verses that say the end of the world will come suddenly - but nothing like what LaHaye and company claim), it's not true to say that that "theology" is only "a Republican ploy to harness the votes of Christians." It originated, as far as I can tell, in the usual fundamentalist, evangelical, or pentecostal churches (and longer ago than the late '70s - when was _The Late Great Planet Earth_ by Hal Lindsay written...late sixties, early seventies? before Falwell et al.) - that those folks tend to be almost excluslively Republican does not mean that the Party dictated Rapture theology from on high. And I am about 99% certain that there are Canadian fundamentalists who believe in the Rapture - just because your friend doesn't know any isn't conclusive evidence that there are none. - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:07:18 -0800 From: Jeff Subject: Re: Incidental to "24" fans On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:20:23 -0800, Rex Broome wrote:> Being off TV for some time now, and 24 being one of the only shows I > miss, I just found out about this yesterday and laughed my ass off... > 'cuz the list will recall how the Go-Betweens were once indeed part of > an evil conspiracy to assassinate me. Okay, I might have missed this story - and some of our newer listees might as well, so...retell? - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:49 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Incidental to "24" fans Jeff: > Okay, I might have missed this story - and some of our newer listees > might as well, so...retell? Okay, know that I don't seriously believe any of this and that there was a bizarre and shifty set of cloak-and-dagger events leading up to this story (involving a covert effort to switch jobs and meeting a suspiciously hot chick who was not only offering me work but asked me out of the blue if I wanted to see the Go-Betweens with her, which you don't get in combination every day) and another random guy offering me a free ticket to the show and subsequently picking my brain for strangely specific personal information, and then this from the archives: "One time at band camp... no, wait, I mean a Go-Betweens show... Robert Forster asked if anyone in the audience had a gray Dunlop .73 nylon pick he could use. Amazingly I had just such a pick. More amazing still, some other guy gave him one before I could get up to the stage. I'm not convinced it was a Dunlop, but he accepted it." "Due to some other highly unlikely coincidences that same night, I briefly believed that Forster had been instructed to ask that question to single me out of the crowd so that the guy who was supposed to assassinate me later could ID me. So I guess that other guy got whacked instead. There's a lot more to this story, but that's good enough for now." Basically it entertains me that I'd constructed my own fake conspiracy thriller including McLennan/Forster before 24 did, and I wonder which of my Hollywood pals I might've told that story to over the years. If the 24 season finale occurs at the Troubador, I'm gonna be mildly pissed. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:56:41 -0500 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: some politics, then music Rex said: "I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Dylan's not aware of a glaringly obvious subconscious connection he's made here." I disagree. I think Dylan's saying exactly what he means and put more thought into this than you think. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:21:00 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: the all-American Rapture, Ann Coulter Jeff: > And I am about 99% certain that there are Canadian fundamentalists who > believe in the Rapture - Well, yeah. The guy in Alberta I linked to a couple of days ago for instance, and at least *some* of the people who attend his traveling "crusades" across Canada. You know, the reason I responded at all is because it's exactly the way a lot of my fellow liberals talk about the South. I'm not a native southerner (born in Seattle) but I've lived here a long time. I've also lived in central California and the Bay Area and spent time in the northeast. It doesn't take much work to realize that there are racist idiots everywhere, so I always bristle whenever someone tries to pump themselves up by trashing the South. Easy targets are boring anyway. +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:25:19 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: ...and music music music... On Mar 20, 2005, at 3:40 PM, James Dignan wrote: >> > Michael Jackson is bad. >> >> Do you mean the song "Bad," or that he is just plain awful? ;-) > > read into it what you will ;) (if I had to name a song that to me was > Jackson, it would probably be "Don't stop till you get enough" - > remember when he was a black kid enjoying himself with music, rather > than a globalised freak?) > Totally. "Rock With You" is one of my all time faves. - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V14 #73 *******************************