From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #66 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 16 2005 Volume 14 : Number 066 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... ["Nora B." ] Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... [Rex Broome ] About that iPod... [Capuchin ] Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... [Eb ] Re: About that iPod... [Jason Brown ] Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... [Capuchin ] This is sufficiently unusual... [2and2makes5@comcast.net] Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... [Capuchin ] Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... [Jeff ] wow, that was fun, and a Republican question [Jill Brand ] RE: About that iPod... ["michael wells" ] Luna_2_27-05_late show ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: About that iPod... [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Squidmaniax-digest [steve ] Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... ["Randalljr" ] Re: Eb and Rex sitting in a tree [Barbara Soutar ] Flashback [steve ] Re: Flashback [Jeff ] RE: About that iPod... [Capuchin ] So many Sammy Hagar albums, so little time ["Revolutionary Army of the Ba] Re: So many Sammy Hagar albums, so little time [Eb Subject: Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... > > I don't want to drag Jeme into this in that way, so I will not contest > > your appraisal. > > In what way DO you want to drag me into this? I will write that Rex's > comments gave me a little warm fuzzy. I do get tired of being > misunderstood all the time. There are people that get it and that makes > it a little easier. Hey, don't sweat it. You're a robot that beileves in absolute truth. Considering that fact, I think you seem very human. That whole thing about using the find function gave me a laugh too. Later, Nora (who was too drunk/shy to say hi to the feg contigent at the croc) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:01:15 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... Cap: > > In what way DO you want to drag me into this? Quail: > Well, you dragged yourself in, at least to this extent....not sure why you > are saying *that.* Wllll... you mentioned Jeme, not appropos to much, as someone who had pissed you off. I said nice things about him. I felt kinda bad about it, but I was just using it to illustrate that you and I are obviously irritated by very different things. I didn't blow a gasket over that one isolated snarky Eb statement; it didn't occur in a vacuum, and it doesn't occur only to me. Just saying. In This Corner: The Dully Decent Fegs of Wordy and Pompous Boorishness! In The Other Corner: The Hilarious Misanthopist All-Stars! Ding ding ding. I apologize very humbly to anyone who finds this even half as squicky as I do. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: About that iPod... Is there really nothing horrible to say about them or are y'all just so disgusted with one another that you can't discuss a peripherally musical peripheral? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:23:30 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... I've been elsewhere much of the afternoon...anything new going on? > Quail: > Well, that may be so; but two can play at that game. I know from many > off-lists conversations that some people find you an irritating boor. Bore or boor? > I'm sure that some folks on the List have a treasure trove of off-list > posts > saying, "Quail is *such* an asshole." Big deal. Actually, I think of you as more of a duodenum. > Hm. Maybe -- just a thought here-- he doesn't actually mean "fuck you" > and > "die." Maybe he just means, "Oh, shut up already!" "Fuck you" isn't really a sentiment in my repertoire. It's readily apparent to me that Rex dislikes me more than I dislike him. In fact, his dislike for me has always sorta "snuck up" on me. Like, all of a sudden...thar she blows! Miffy Dick. I don't hate Rex any more than Mary and Murray hate Ted Baxter. It's pretty much the same scenario. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:27:05 -0800 From: Jason Brown Subject: Re: About that iPod... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:09:39 -0800 (PST), Capuchin wrote: > Is there really nothing horrible to say about them or are y'all just so > disgusted with one another that you can't discuss a peripherally musical > peripheral? I think there's nothing horrible to say about them. They really a lovely peices of technology. Only downside is the price. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:32:42 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, The Great Quail wrote: > I am not sure I know what you mean. You think I am almost a Republican? Well, you had a rabid attack of jingoism after 9/11 that caused you to withdraw from the list for a long time and you think it's perfectly OK for folks to be shits to one another. Then you lose me entirely. I have no idea what your political motivations might be. If it's OK to willfully cause pain, what is it about the Republicans that is NOT OK? I mean, maybe they just think poor brown people need to have their balloons popped. > Now -- I want to roll giggling in *Republican* entrails. Doesn't that > count for something? No, Quail, it doesn't. And that kind of thinking is why we, as a civilization, can't claw our way out of this pit of violence and destruction even though we've been shown numerous examples of living with unconditional love and kindness. I know you think it's funny, but it's not. >> That's right, Rex. Folks should keep their noses down and speak only >> when addressed, else they will get skewered by the heartless among us. >> Remember that. > > Ah, Capuchin speaks of heartlessness! I do. What of it? > Well, I only meant to say that Rex exhibits the very kind of traits that > goad Eb. Eb exhibits the kind of traits that goad -- well, lots of > people. And so on. It's just the way of things. I don't think you really believe that. Maybe those folks in the World Trade Center just had the very kind of traits that goad those folks flying the airplanes. Intent is everything. When Rex goes on about his band or his family or his work, his intent is to share with people and find some connection to the world around him that makes both a little more meaningful. When Eb takes shots at people from behind electronic lines, his intent is to make someone feel bad about who they are and make others laugh at that person. > I don't think that politeness must be adhered to at all times; sometimes > a small bloodletting is necessary to clear the air. Well, we have something called the Enlightenment on this side of the world. I'll explain it later. > Rex can be annoying to some people, Eb throws the occasional barb at > him, Big deal. So we fight for a few days, big deal. If that's how you feel about violence and war, then it's no wonder you want to roll in people's entrails. >> Mine, by the way, just keeps trying to convince me that I'm really not >> OK with the knowledge that nobody can ever live up to my ideals. > > Are you saying that with irony? I hope you are saying that with irony. I'm not. We had that very discussion. I know that there is no way that anybody (including myself, of course) can be what I think a person should be and I'm totally OK with that. The point isn't achieving, but trying. A person isn't what they do, but how they do it and why. We are processes and not results. She fears that I'm really frustrated by that fact (presumably because she would be). I disagree. I just think I had permissive parents and THAT is why I can't get places on time. > This is what Eb wrote: > > This is your statement of hate? Why'd he write it? To hurt someone and make people laugh at that person. He was mocking Rex and calling him awkward. Contrast that with, say, my recent comment about finding the Letters to the Editors on the Stranger website. I was poking fun at a silly mistake. Eb was poking fun at Rex's entire personality. > This, compared to what Rex wrote -- "Fuck you" and "Die?" I'll give Rex > this -- at least he was pretty honest in his anger! And Eb was dishonest in his. I think you appreciate the dishonest type of anger (hidden behind false jest and detachment) and not Rex's honest kind of anger. I think perhaps that's because the honest kind doesn't hide the ugliness. >> In what way DO you want to drag me into this? > > Well, you dragged yourself in, at least to this extent....not sure why > you are saying *that.* Well, you wrote that you didn't want me dragged into the conversation "in that way"... I was just wondering how you'd prefer to do it. >> I will write that Rex's comments gave me a little warm fuzzy. I do get >> tired of being misunderstood all the time. There are people that get >> it and that makes it a little easier. > > Aaaaaaaagh! You are such an insufferably arrogant ass! I just like myself, Quail. I don't think that's arrogance. I don't mean to be too forward here, but maybe you don't like yourself because you don't like the ugliness of anger and you've got so much of it. > It's really unbelievable. In a strange way, it's almost kind > of...beautiful. At the end of the world, when the cockroaches have taken > over and Tupac has stopped making albums, there you will be, alone and > perfect; like a small, round, impervious, golden buddha.... I'm working on it. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:30:57 +0000 From: 2and2makes5@comcast.net Subject: This is sufficiently unusual... ...to be posted on the wacky Feg-list! The Origin of Species in Dub http://www.infection.bham.ac.uk/BPAG/Dub/Origin/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:38:49 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Eb wrote: > "Fuck you" isn't really a sentiment in my repertoire. Maybe it should be. > It's readily apparent to me that Rex dislikes me more than I dislike > him. In fact, his dislike for me has always sorta "snuck up" on me. > Like, all of a sudden...thar she blows! Miffy Dick. It sneaks up on you because he's polite until you push him too far and he loses control of his worse nature. He's a good person that way. > I don't hate Rex any more than Mary and Murray hate Ted Baxter. It's > pretty much the same scenario. ;) Uh huh... and when did they mock him in front of his friends rather than be nice to him and suffer in silence? Sure, the audience laughs at the guy's foolishness, but the folks around him are kind and even sympathetic. The only example of outright acceptable MEANNESS for the sake of humor on television I recall from when I was young was the treatment of Booker on Good Times. Flash forward to Seinfeld where meanness and cruelty are not only the punchlines, but the plotlines as well. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:38:49 -0600 From: Jeff Subject: Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:32:24 -0800 (PST), Capuchin wrote: > Yeah, but you also want to roll giggling in entrails. So there's not a > narrow sadistic streak in you. But what if the entrails were duly removed after a natural death with a decent respect for the inherent humanity of even the lowliest of misled creatures, the Republican? Then is the giggling and rolling okay? Okay, a poll: Would the Buddha roll giggling in entrails, yea or nay? > > Your tone is often on the lofty side, filled with self-referential > > statements and lots of pronouncements. That's funny - that was exactly the fortune I got the other night at Double Happiness Cock Chinese Restaurant & Massage Parlor. Still: Quail, that was very clever of you to talk about "self-referential statements" in a clearly self-referential statement. > Come on! You might as well be > > walking around with a big "Hey Eb, kick me!" sign around your neck. This shall be the new Secret Feg Greeting Signal (walking around with a big "Hey Eb, kick me!" sign around the neck). I originally mistyped "Gretting Signal" - but the mysterious Greta Swann seems to have gone with the wind. Should she return, the Secret Feg Gretting Signal Phrase shall be: "We're all judges. We're all equal." Which I believe Patrick McGoohan said in episode 12 of _The Prisoner_. > Mine, by the way, just keeps trying to convince me that I'm really not OK > with the knowledge that nobody can ever live up to my ideals. Damn - Quail beat me to responding this before I could say, gee, I hope nobody thinks Jeme wasn't including *himself* in that "nobody can ever live up to" statement. The cavalcade of lofty but misread pronouncements continues. I am going to go crawl back in a corner and listen to Firesign Theatre CDs. - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:50:07 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: wow, that was fun, and a Republican question Um, I'm rather partial to *all* the people who are currently hacking at each other with oversized cleavers - what can that mean? The maternal Jill does not like this much disharmony. And dear Quail, you haven't even had time to jump all over the person who posted the "Jim Kerr is better than that phony Bono guy" post (I don't remember exactly what it said, but it wasn't flattering to the only rock performer I've ever seen wear a cummerbund). As for Republicans, we here in Massachusetts think that Mitt Romney is getting big ideas and that he will make a run for the presidency. What do the fegpundits think will happen to a Mormon candidate? A big part of the Republican base is the Christian right, and they HATE the Mormons. I listen to Christian radio all the time (it's very interesting - I feel like an anthropologist doing field work) and I've heard numerous attacks on the Mormons; the general theme is that they are not Christian and are sent by the devil. Despite dance recital rehearsals for my daughter and madrigal rehearsals for my son, my husband and I have managed to arrange things so that we can BOTH go to see RH at TT the Bear's on March 29. This is certainly progress. Mother Goose, currently unable to get the Decemberists' "Leslie Ann Levine" out of her head ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:48:49 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: About that iPod... Jeme: > Is there really nothing horrible to say about them or are y'all just so disgusted with one another that you can't discuss a peripherally musical peripheral? There's nothing horrible to say about them, other than at their current price we'll have helped buy Tom Clark a new minivan by May. Which isn't so horrible after all, I suppose. I held out. I resisted. I bought a Nueros hard drive recorder/mp3 player/fm transmitter instead. I promised that I wouldn't get involved. Then I got one as a present. It is Apple in its purest essence - make beautiful hardware and proprietary software. IMO these folks have figured out *exactly* what the broader market for this wants: ~ high-quality samples of the music prior to purchase ~ single-song selectable buying ~ seamless interface from store to computer to portable ~ multiple methods of sorting the contents ~ a nifty package For instance this weekend I downloaded Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" (the song only), some Modern English and Duran Duran, and a Soft Cell tune. Guess which one. Anyway, I was able to sort which version of each I wanted and pay for, download, and play only those in the matter of less than three minutes. Bliss. IMO The data sort is iPod's best feature. My Dad insists it's song-based, while I vote for playlist-based management, but any way you slice it (genre, artist, album, etc) it has something for everyone. Plus at a house-concert party I had last month one of the guests docked his iPod on my computer and seamlessly offloaded a few GB of folk and Americana tunes for me. So there's always the portable-drive aspect to consider. Sure there are fits and foibles, but they're surprisingly few and far between. The ear pods suck, so get those Sony jobs that wrap over your ears and ride on the upper neck and you've got a killer workout rig. Especially if, like me, you've created a "Maiden Mania" playlist with the best of Iron Maiden's 80's repertoire. Biking at the Y has never been the same. Michael "and don't forget - Rush sounds GREAT on an iPod!" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:01:24 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Luna_2_27-05_late show I have posted Luna's 2/27/05 late show to easy tree. Max ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:17:24 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: About that iPod... > Is there really nothing horrible to say about them or are y'all just so > disgusted with one another that you can't discuss a peripherally > musical > peripheral? No one's yet mentioned PodCasting? It's internet radio to the extreme. I've been listening to them for a few months now. Some of the better ones: Adam Curry's "Daily Source Code" http://www.dailysourcecode.com Coverville http://www.coverville.com/ This guy does a great job and I learned about the group The Lascivious Biddies http://www.biddies4ever.com/index.html from listening to his show. The Dawn and Drew Show http://www.dawnanddrew.com Podcast Alley is the directory you'll want to use to seek out what's available: http://www.podcastalley.com/ I use iPodder to subscribe to and download the feeds: http://ipodder.sourceforge.net And, this article from the current issue of Wired is a good read about what podCasting is all about: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/curry.html - -Steve - -- http://homepage.mac.com/stevetalkowski ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:17:42 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Squidmaniax-digest On Mar 15, 2005, at 1:55 PM, The Great Quail wrote: > The Force must be balanced, after all. So true. That's why the Shinigami don't actually kill the Hollows. But I must note that they do a damn fine job on each other. - - Steve __________ At Harvard Business School, thirty years ago, George Bush was a student of mine. I still vividly remember him. In my class, he declared that "people are poor because they are lazy." He was opposed to labor unions, social security, environmental protection, Medicare, and public schools. To him, the antitrust watch dog, the FTC, and the SEC were unnecessary hindrances to "free market competition." To him, Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal was "socialism." - Yoshi Tsurumi, CUNY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:49:29 -0800 From: "Randalljr" Subject: Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... > Later, Nora (who was too drunk/shy to say hi to the feg contigent at the > croc) Not at all surprising we weren't approached, considering Eddie's "Viva Sea Tac" dance. Vince "I was the one surrounded by white people" the Vincester ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:13:20 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Eb and Rex, sitting in a tree.... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Randalljr wrote: >> Later, Nora (who was too drunk/shy to say hi to the feg contigent at >> the croc) > > Not at all surprising we weren't approached, considering Eddie's "Viva > Sea Tac" dance. Properly, that's Vivien's Viva Sea-Tac Dance. eddie was just more into it than anyone else this time around. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:18:24 -0500 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: Eb and Rex sitting in a tree The Great Quail said: (Only two people on this List have ever managed to send me off the deep end and careening into idiotic behavior: Capuchin, and that one English guy aftre 911!) Quail: Are you forgetting me? Or am I "that one English guy"? I still don't trust you to be goodhearted. Actually I think Rex overreacted a bit to Eb's jab, which was of simply of the Diary of Adrian Mole genre. I find that both Broomes are amusing characters and enjoy reading most of what they post. No hatred or scorn from me! Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:44:48 -0600 From: steve Subject: Flashback - - Steve __________ Does pop music really change anything other than the width of a teenager's trousers? Is there really no Santa Claus on the evening stage? Does the shed hold only a push bike, or is there a lawn mower in there too? Well, I've done the research, talked to the culprit's parents and come to my own conclusions. The answer is this: God's atoms have been scattered and re-assembled in the form of a fluffy bunny. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:09:25 -0600 From: Jeff Subject: Re: Flashback On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:44:48 -0600, steve wrote: > Jesus Fucking Christ could you warn us before sending us to a page with super-pumped sound? I'm sitting here listening to iTunes on my laptop with headphones on, waiting for the page to load - it comes up and goddamn nearly deafens me at about three times the volume. Grrr. - -- ...Jeff - humorless, pompous, self-clueless The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: About that iPod... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, michael wells wrote: > There's nothing horrible to say about them, other than at their current > price we'll have helped buy Tom Clark a new minivan by May. Which isn't > so horrible after all, I suppose. What's wrong with his old one? > I held out. I resisted. I bought a Nueros hard drive recorder/mp3 > player/fm transmitter instead. I promised that I wouldn't get involved. > Then I got one as a present. > It is Apple in its purest essence - make beautiful hardware and > proprietary software. While it would be an easier ethical sell if I could run non-proprietary software on my iPod (as I do on my XBox, for example), I guess I think of it more like firmware on the iPod, since the basic interface is interoperable and the hardware is SO specialized. (It'd be nice to be able to use different audio codecs, though, as I've mentioned in the past.) > IMO these folks have figured out *exactly* what the broader market for > this wants: > > ~ high-quality samples of the music prior to purchase > ~ single-song selectable buying > ~ seamless interface from store to computer to portable Oh, see, now I have no use for any of the above. I think gtkpod will suffice on the PC for music... and I think I can just mount the thing as a hard disk for other data. Isn't that right? I mean, you can't just dump mp3s on the thing, can you? You have to got through some intermediary interface. > ~ multiple methods of sorting the contents > ~ a nifty package This is the sell for me. Great interface on that new iPod. Amazing. > For instance this weekend I downloaded Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" (the song > only), some Modern English and Duran Duran, and a Soft Cell tune. Guess > which one. Anyway, I was able to sort which version of each I wanted and > pay for, download, and play only those in the matter of less than three > minutes. Bliss. Yeah, that's why God created peer-to-peer networks like the internet. There's plenty of sources to get the little bits of information that make your life more pleasant. > Plus at a house-concert party I had last month one of the guests docked > his iPod on my computer and seamlessly offloaded a few GB of folk and > Americana tunes for me. So there's always the portable-drive aspect to > consider. My main reason for even LOOKING at the iPod was my need for portable storage. > Sure there are fits and foibles, but they're surprisingly few and far > between. Well, what are they? > Michael "and don't forget - Rush sounds GREAT on an iPod!" Wells Is that how they sound good? 'Cause every other way I've heard them has sucked. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:10:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Revolutionary Army of the Baby Jesus" Subject: So many Sammy Hagar albums, so little time it may or may not be a coincidence. but, at one point prior to the show up here, while we were standing around at the front of the stage waiting for robyn to come on and do his thing, capuchin went out to drop some mail. ("i've gotta go drop some mail," is a chef-ism for, "i've gotta go take a crap." not sure if the phrase is in general use or not, but here's rather an amusing story. one time the chef was manning the line -- had about four or five tickets going -- while i was cutting chicken (or something). everything seemed kosher enough, but out of nowhere, the chef suddenly exclaimed, "oh, shit! i've gotta drop some mail!" as he clambered toward the head, he anxiously instructed me to take over on the line -- which i did do; but only after several minutes spent doubled-over, laughing my gizzards out.) when he (capuchin) returned, he related that david byrne (who was in town to give a power-point presentation) was in the audience. so, naturally, it occurred to me that robyn ought to play "Freeze". we called out for it at just about every opportunity. he never played it, o' course, but perhaps it seeped in? at a guess, i would venture that the last time he'd played it was during the brain degeneration tour? that'd would've been right about the time of their back-to-back-super-bowl-winning, undefeated-season-achieving glory, wouldn't it've? now, if you'd said that you at some point had lived down the street from *reggie roby*, i'd be down there lickin' your anus in no time flat! i frickin' *love* reggie roby. i'll give you three (although i may be too late): 1. you're unemployed (or...are you?). 2. for the same price, you can get a zen xtra with twice the hard drive capacity. i know you're not into holding your entire music collection on your portable device, but you can turn it around, too: for the same hard drive capacity, you can pay far less for a zen xtra. (well, at least this was the case a year ago, when i was in the market.) the hard-drive-modded xtras were having difficulties when loaded up with more that 10,000 tracks, but the latest firmware upgrade seems to have put the kibosh on that. i frickin' *love* the zen xtra. 3. the ipod's battery goes kaput after about 18 months -- is this still the case? -- and you're then instructed to purchase a *whole other ipod*. maybe you're gearhead enough that you can replace the battery yourself, but they're supposedly irreplaceable. (again, this peccadillo may be long obsolete. i haven't really followed the mp3 player wars since purchasing the zen xtra. which i frickin' *love*.) KEN "Attention, savvy investors!" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:23:35 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: So many Sammy Hagar albums, so little time Revolutionary Jesus of the Baby Army wrote: > Miami Dolphins' punter. Beat THAT for rock-star glamour.> > > that'd would've been right about the time of their > back-to-back-super-bowl-winning, undefeated-season-achieving glory, > wouldn't it've? You bet your sweet bippy. Griese, Csonka, Morris, Kiick, Buoniconti, etc. The punter was Larry Seiple. Added celebrity-f*cking: My mother taught Buoniconti's son Marc during first grade or so -- this is the same unlucky guy who was paralyzed by a football injury years later. http://www.thebuonicontifund.com/index.htm > now, if you'd said that you at some point had lived down > the street from *reggie roby*, i'd be down there lickin' your anus in > no > time flat! Ah. A regrettable twist of fate, indeed. > 3. the ipod's battery goes kaput after about 18 months -- is this still > the case? -- and you're then instructed to purchase a *whole other > ipod*. I've heard of this complaint before, but didn't it pertain to earlier models? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:00:26 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: So many Sammy Hagar albums, so little time On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Eb wrote: >> 3. the ipod's battery goes kaput after about 18 months -- is this still >> the case? -- and you're then instructed to purchase a *whole other >> ipod*. > > I've heard of this complaint before, but didn't it pertain to earlier > models? [I didn't get the original message this appears to be quoting... not so far as I can tell, anyway. Weird.] Apple didn't always have a battery replacement program. They do now. Furthermore, there are folks who will install after-market batteries at very reasonable prices. Some claim to be of higher quality than those installed at the factory, yet still "official" parts sanctioned by the fruit itself in Cupertino. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V14 #66 *******************************