From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #54 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 3 2005 Volume 14 : Number 054 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... ["Lauren" ] The Revolver Mash ["Jay Lyall" ] random obscenity-laced subject line [Jeff ] I found it! [Ross ] Re: The Revolver Mash [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: The Revolver Mash [Rex Broome ] happy birthday ["Danny Lieberman" ] Re: The Revolver Mash [FSThomas ] Re: The Revolver Mash [Jeff ] Phone conversation I just had ["Eddie Tews" ] Re: Phone conversation I just had [Tom Clark ] Reap [FSThomas ] Re: The Revolver Mash ["Jay Lyall" ] Next to last minute arrangements [Capuchin ] RE: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... [Capuchin ] Re: Robyn Hitchcock On Tour! [Rex Broome ] My new goal in life... ["Eddie Tews" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:16:00 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... Wuzzup, niggas?!?! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:25:22 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... On Mar 2, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > Wuzzup, niggas?!?! > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:04:40 -0600 From: Jeff Subject: Re: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:25:22 -0800, Tom Clark wrote: > On Mar 2, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > > > Wuzzup, niggas?!?! > > > > > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH! Fuck ... oh, forget it. - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:53:13 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... > > > Wuzzup, niggas?!?! > > > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH! > > Fuck ... oh, forget it. I challenge anyone to find any three posts by Jeff, Tom and myself with few words than these. Bonus points for higher epithet/obscenity/screaming content. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:18:15 -0500 From: "Lauren" Subject: Re: Changing the Subject "Jeff" says: > Oh, and one more reply to Lauren: I think it makes an enormous > difference whether a word is being used, or merely being described or > mentioned. Words, as arrangements of letters on the page, aren't magic > (one reason I think it's absurd to censor and write "f*ck* for "fuck" > when anyone who can read knows what word you mean). Their effect > depends upon their meaning, and that meaning is enmeshed in a network > of communication, most certainly and directly including their context > in a particular sentence, but also what we know of the speaker and the > audience context. So someone saying to a complete stranger, "Wow, > that's a really faggy shirt" is at a lot more risk of being obnoxious > (even if it was meant as, somehow, a compliment) than someone, say on > a linguistics list, asking "what is the origin of the word 'faggy'?" > Agreed... but that's not exactly what's going on here. From one perspective, yesterday's discussion on the list might look like this: << Re: This is where we separate the men from the faggots ["Asshole Muthafuc] Re: This is where we separate the men from the faggots ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: Fuck you, Jeff's faggy asshole kitten-raping boss! [Rex Broome > So I'm pretty comfortable at this point saying that I am being singled out...which really wouldn't bother me if people would at least stop denying it. xo Lauren - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------- "I hate all music. Except 'Roadrunner' by The Modern Lovers." - John Lydon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:24:15 -0500 From: "Lauren" Subject: Re: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... Quentin Tarantino's white? xo Lauren - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------- "I hate all music. Except 'Roadrunner' by The Modern Lovers." - John Lydon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:30:19 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Eb Subject: re: kitten Gosh...I guess that I was yesterday's only well-mannered poster. My usual plight. ;) Eb - ----- From one perspective, yesterday's discussion on the list might look like this: << Re: This is where we separate the men from the faggots ["Asshole Muthafuc] Re: This is where we separate the men from the faggots ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: Fuck you, Jeff's faggy asshole kitten-raping boss! [Rex Broome Subject: The Revolver Mash http://www.hearingdouble.co.uk/ccc/ - ----------------------------------- Jay Lyall - Houston, Texas www.walmartcostsyou.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:11:49 -0600 From: Jeff Subject: random obscenity-laced subject line On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:44:45 -0600, Jay Lyall wrote: > http://www.hearingdouble.co.uk/ccc/ cool. > www.walmartcostsyou.com In case you still believe in the genius free hand... - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 23:14:45 -0500 From: Ross Subject: I found it! Yup, after 28 years I've figured out what that Taj Mahal song was -- the one I'd write the list about ever year or two, that has a chorus of women singing "doo doo dweeeee, doo doo dweet-doo". It's the Truck Driver's Two-Step, from Taj's "Music Fuh Yah", released 1977. I could have sworn it was from '74 or earlier. I'll sleep well tonight. - -- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.7 - Release Date: 3/1/05 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:01:11 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: The Revolver Mash Jay Lyall wrote: > http://www.hearingdouble.co.uk/ccc/ > 5 Here, There & Everywhere > The Beatles - Here, There and Everywhere > Claudine Longet - Here, There & Everywhere The reminds me of a mash-up I've always thought would be a good idea: Neil Young and St. Etienne's versions of "Only Love Will Break Your Heart." ===== "I had naively believed all these many years that Americans genuinely believed in freedom of speech. [But I] discovered there that when you made an utterance that was remotely contrary to what the White House was saying, then they attacked you. For a South African the deja vu was frightening. They behaved exactly the same way that used to happen here [during apartheid]: vilifying those who are putting forward a slightly different view." -- Desmond Tutu __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:49:23 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: The Revolver Mash > The reminds me of a mash-up I've always thought would be a > good idea: Neil Young and St. Etienne's versions of "Only > Love Will Break Your Heart." Tricky. One is in a minor key and 4/4, the other major and 3/4. I enjoy the whole mashup thing but am frustrated to not truly understand how it's done. The way the parts are isolated for reconstruction boggles my mind... seems like you'd either need the master tapes, or have to use some kind of crazy filtering software which I'd think would leave the song pieces sounding sort of odd. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:06:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Danny Lieberman" Subject: happy birthday On today's Morning Edition co-host Steve Inskeep mentioned that today is Robyn Hitchcock's 52nd birthday. Happy Birthday, Robyn. - -- Danny Lieberman dfl@panix.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:22:06 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: The Revolver Mash Rex Broome wrote: > I enjoy the whole mashup thing but am frustrated to not truly > understand how it's done. The way the parts are isolated for > reconstruction boggles my mind... seems like you'd either need the > master tapes, or have to use some kind of crazy filtering software > which I'd think would leave the song pieces sounding sort of odd. In an ideal world you have access to the separate tracks. The recent Shatner one is an example of limiting the "contestants" to only working with the final mix, which is very limiting. - -f. [Shatner mash-up: http://www.acidplanet.com/contests/shatner] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:49:21 -0600 From: Jeff Subject: Re: The Revolver Mash On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:22:06 -0500, FSThomas wrote: > Rex Broome wrote: > > I enjoy the whole mashup thing but am frustrated to not truly > > understand how it's done. The way the parts are isolated for > > reconstruction boggles my mind... seems like you'd either need the > > master tapes, or have to use some kind of crazy filtering software > > which I'd think would leave the song pieces sounding sort of odd. > > In an ideal world you have access to the separate tracks. The recent > Shatner one is an example of limiting the "contestants" to only working > with the final mix, which is very limiting. It's sometimes possible to trickily reconstruct what sounds like the original source, but with parts isolated, by finding one moment without the other parts and looping it. Say there's a repeating guitar riff throughout the verse, but during the verse there's drums, bass, etc. But if that guitar riff is first heard on its own in an intro, or during a break, you can just record that & loop it if you want to have that guitar part from the one track. But I suppose between bandstop/pass filters and switching channels or phase, you can do a reasonably good job of isolating lots of things that would seem difficult..and if there's a little ghost bass left (say), so long as there's another, louder bass on top of it, it wouldnt' be terribly audible I suppose - esp. assuming they're in the same key/tempo, and therefore possibly buried in the harmonics anyway. I wonder how many decisions as to which parts to use are made on which can be effectively isolated... - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:51:23 -0800 From: "Eddie Tews" Subject: Phone conversation I just had Me: Hello. Caller: Hello? Me: What's up? Caller: Hi, this is Chris Johnson from KOMO-AM. If you give me your name, you could win $1,000! Me: Uhhh... Caller: Do you listen to KOMO at all? Me: Well, I used to, back when you had Husky Football. Caller: I see. Well, if you just give me your name, and then listen on air, you could-- Me: Do you still have commercials? Caller: I would imagine that we do. Me: Then I think I'll have to pass. Caller: Why? Me: Because commercial radio makes me want to vomit. Caller: But, see, this is talk...primarily *talk*-radio. Me: But do you have commercials? Caller: I won't say that we do, and I won't say that we don't. Is this Edwa-- Me: [Laughing, hanging up]. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 10:56:49 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Phone conversation I just had On Mar 3, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Eddie Tews wrote: > Me: Hello. > Caller: Hello? > Me: What's up? > Caller: Hi, this is Chris Johnson from KOMO-AM. If you give me your > name,you could win $1,000! > Me: Uhhh... > Caller: Do you listen to KOMO at all? > Me: Well, I used to, back when you had Husky Football. > Not one use of the word "fuck"? You're getting soft. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:50:33 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Reap Martin Denny, 4/10/11 - 3/2/05 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:10:46 -0600 From: "Jay Lyall" Subject: Re: The Revolver Mash There is a pretty good FAQ on splitting tracks on the Get Your Bootleg On website http://www.gybo-v3.co.uk/ Jay - ----------------------------------- Jay Lyall - Houston, Texas www.walmartcostsyou.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" To: "Not Reg" Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: The Revolver Mash > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:22:06 -0500, FSThomas > wrote: >> Rex Broome wrote: >> > I enjoy the whole mashup thing but am frustrated to not truly >> > understand how it's done. The way the parts are isolated for >> > reconstruction boggles my mind... seems like you'd either need the >> > master tapes, or have to use some kind of crazy filtering software >> > which I'd think would leave the song pieces sounding sort of odd. >> >> In an ideal world you have access to the separate tracks. The recent >> Shatner one is an example of limiting the "contestants" to only working >> with the final mix, which is very limiting. > > It's sometimes possible to trickily reconstruct what sounds like the > original source, but with parts isolated, by finding one moment > without the other parts and looping it. Say there's a repeating guitar > riff throughout the verse, but during the verse there's drums, bass, > etc. But if that guitar riff is first heard on its own in an intro, or > during a break, you can just record that & loop it if you want to have > that guitar part from the one track. > > But I suppose between bandstop/pass filters and switching channels or > phase, you can do a reasonably good job of isolating lots of things > that would seem difficult..and if there's a little ghost bass left > (say), so long as there's another, louder bass on top of it, it > wouldnt' be terribly audible I suppose - esp. assuming they're in the > same key/tempo, and therefore possibly buried in the harmonics anyway. > > I wonder how many decisions as to which parts to use are made on which > can be effectively isolated... > > -- > > ...Jeff > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:57:32 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Next to last minute arrangements Vivien, Chris Franz and I are going to Seattle on Saturday. I don't think serious arrangements have been made. What's up, eddie? Have you been in contact with Chris? We need: tickets, possibly a place to crash. We can provide: rousing company and possibly breakfast (as well as remuneration for the tickets). We're driving up from Portland on Saturday afternoon (hopefully arriving exactly in time for dinner before the show) and probably coming back Sunday morning (following a gruelling ordeal at Ikea) to arrive in Portland as quickly as possible so Chris can see more of the city. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:04:26 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Do you see a sign outside of my house saying.... On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > "Bachman, Michael" wrote: >> I am hoping he does a Vega Brothers movie, Vic Vega (Mr. Blonde/Michael >> Madsen from Reservoir Dogs) and Vincent Vega (John Travolta from Pulp >> Fiction). Have to be a prequel to those movies of course. Maybe >> Virginia Madsen could be in it as well as perhaps Valerie Vega? > > And I think Victoria Vega sounds better as a character name.... But if you have Victor and Victoria as the names of a brother and sister, you have to give some extra screen-time to the backstory that the Vega parents were mentally retarded. Personally, I think it should be Virginia Vega. And she should be a nun... or a madame... maybe both. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:40:39 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock On Tour! On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:58:16 -0500, woj wrote: > 03-20-2005 Nashville TN Belcourt Theatre By the way, this show is now OFFICIALLY with Gil 'n' Dave - it's being advertised as such, and I have confirmation of same from, um reliable sources. So for those of you who, unlike me, have the SPOOKED and/or the Gil 'n' Dave jones... maybe you should come here for this one. Also, 14 months between Nashville gigs is a new "shortest time between Robyn gigs" record for our fair city. http://www.belcourt.org for details... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:01:50 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock On Tour! > By the way, this show is now OFFICIALLY with Gil 'n' Dave - it's being > advertised as such, and I have confirmation of same from, um reliable > sources. Hey, it's Miles! Where you been, ya homo? (Apologies if you haven't been reading closely enough lately to know that we fegs are all now required to be complete jerks to each other.) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:56:12 -0800 From: "Eddie Tews" Subject: My new goal in life... ...is to live in this neighbourhood. . better yet, maybe chris and bayard could move in there, and i could go visit from time to time. sure, sure. then we could get a group of fegs together and go nigger-knock the white house -- flaming bag of shit, and all -- and squeal with delight when mcclellan would denounce the "evil" fegs what had perpetrated the action. lobstie, is that guy in the back in the photo your brother? sure looks like he could be! tech question: has anybody ever tried to download KEXP's uncompressed stream? i thought i'd try, as my connection isn't quite fast enough to play it continuously. i tried using HiDownload and URLsniffer, and while it would *purport* to be downloading, there was never any progress indicated. mini review: william elliott whitmore, *Ashes To Dust*. doesn't stray too far lyrically or musically from the previous album (though the instrumentation is a bit more varied). and, like the previous album, clocks in at only about 35 minutes in length. but with me, it's so often all about the voice. and he's the male vocalist in whose thrall i'm most deeply embedded right now. a minor disappointment, but definitely recommended. you know, if he'd taken the tracks from the two albums, intermixed them, and released them as a single disc, i daresay it would be my third-favourite rekkid of the decade so far. (if the human person race manages to survive to this end of the decade -- which i doubt -- i'm telling you right now that my top-two albums will end up being *One Beat* and *Electric Version*.) jonesie, if you don't have this guy on your radio show, i will *personally* go down there and kick your faggotty white ass in. (you see what happens? i fucking *warned* you people against egging me on.) KEN "I want you to put an ice cream cone up my ass!" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V14 #54 *******************************