From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V14 #6 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 8 2005 Volume 14 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Juliana Hatfield [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: 16 military wives [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Juliana Hatfield [Rex Broome ] Re: Juliana Hatfield [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: 16 military wives ["Stewart C. Russell" ] [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock - 2004-10-27 - Sin-, New York City (MD AUD / FLAC) [] Re: 16 military wives [John Barrington Jones ] Re: 16 military wives [steve ] Re: 16 military wives ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Juliana Hatfield [Dolph Chaney ] Re: 16 military wives ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Fwd: [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Soft Boys - April 22, 2001 Norwich, Eng Hitchcock [bisontentacle ] reap [Eb ] Re: reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Reap [steve ] Looking for help with chords [Ole Eldor ] Tragic/Hip? Fwd: Miyazaki paper at MLA 2004 [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:50:05 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Juliana Hatfield Hi, perhaps I missed it, but I think the only one of the end-of-the-year lists mentioning Juliana Hatfield's new CD "In Exile Deo" was the one in the New York Times. I wonder why that is. Is it too pedestrian for your collective rarefied tastes? To give you some background, I think I only know three CDs that came out in 2004: R.E.M., Around The Sun Brian Wilson, Smile and now Juliana Hatfield, In Exile Deo (Come to think of it, tonight I got Simon & Garfunkle's "Old Friends Live On Stage" from allofmp3.com, but I doubt that one really qualifies ...) As you can tell, I'm not really in touch with current music. I can't say I feel like I'm missing something ... So why did I get "In Exile Deo"? It's my first JH CD, so it's not like I bought it out of habit, the way I did with R.E.M. Of course the NYT article was the occasion that brought about the impulse, but I had been latently interested for a while. The thing is, I may or may not have seen the Blake Babies live ages ago. I know for sure that they had played the Georgia Theatre in Athens the night before I got there when I was living the wild life as a Feelies groupie. I'm fuzzy about whether I actually saw them myself. I remember that I liked their music, but somehow I never got an album/CD. I've got the Lemonheads' "It's A Shame About Ray", on which Juliana Hatfield plays bass and sings backgroud vocals, but it's not something I listen to a lot. Still, I never really forgot about her. The other occasion that now finally caused me to actually buy the new CD was my discovery of My So-Called Life the all-too-shortly-lived masterpiece TV series from 1994. It's as good as or possibly even a little better than Buffy. That may sound starnge to the unitiated, because one has vampires and the other doesn't, but the vampires aren't the point anyway. Juliana Hatfield acts and performs in one episode of MSCL. It's the Christmas episode and for my taste it takes things just a little too far towards kitschdom, but it was another piece in the puzzle. One more addition: it's really tough to find any Blake Babies stuff in Germany! The same goes for older JH CDs. Otherwise I might've gotten a Blake Babies CD. I've listened to "In Exile Deo" for three times now. It's not one of my all-time favorites, but I think it's really good and I'm surprised nobody else is mentioning it. It reminds me of Aimee Mann, which may not be as surprising as I had initially thought: tonight I realised that JH sings background vocals on "Deathly". Finally, it occurred to me that JH may be the best female ROCK guitar player I know. She plays all guitar parts herself. Many other female singers have a guy that plays the lead parts. Maybe the guitarist from Sleater-Kinney might qualify, but I never liked them very much. Kristin Hersh and Tanya Donnelly are great, but rock? Not so much. Material for a new thread, maybe? Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn EhrenfeldgC Subject: Re: 16 military wives - -- John Barrington Jones is rumored to have mumbled on 7. Januar 2005 15:02:17 Uhr -0800 regarding 16 military wives: > I've put the Decemberists new album up for a limited time at: > > http://tuthorse.net/picaro Wow, from the first two songs I'd say that one's bound to make my best-of list for 2005. That may sound glib if you've read my previous posting, but it's not meant that way - I really like it. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn EhrenfeldgC Subject: Re: Juliana Hatfield Sebastian > Finally, it occurred to me that JH may be the best female ROCK guitar > player I know. She plays all guitar parts herself. Many other female > singers have a guy that plays the lead parts. Maybe the guitarist from > Sleater-Kinney might qualify, but I never liked them very much. Carrie Brownstein? Not to incur the wrath of Nat, but the woman can play. >Kristin > Hersh and Tanya Donnelly are great, but rock? You've not heard Kristin's new band, the currently-unfortunately-named 50 Foot Wave, then. Tanya, despite nominally playing lead on the lion's share of the early Muses stuff, may not have really done so on record and certainly hasn't much since then. > Material for a > new thread, maybe? Perhaps, but you'd have to define "rock". If you mean bluesy crunchiness, you can start with PJ Harvey and work your way on down. My favorite female guitarists seem to be the ones who take off in a completely different direction with the idiom, but when you look at it that way, why bother to have the word "female" in the sentence at all? (lame joke about guitarists name Kimberly excised) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 01:27:18 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Juliana Hatfield Rex, - -- Rex Broome is rumored to have mumbled on 7. Januar 2005 16:11:52 Uhr -0800 regarding Re: Juliana Hatfield: >> Finally, it occurred to me that JH may be the best female ROCK guitar >> player I know. She plays all guitar parts herself. Many other female >> singers have a guy that plays the lead parts. Maybe the guitarist from >> Sleater-Kinney might qualify, but I never liked them very much. > > Carrie Brownstein? Not to incur the wrath of Nat, but the woman can play. I'm only somewhat familiar with their early stuff and that mostly left me with the feeling that they needed a bass player. I know that they added one later on, but I'm not familiar with that period. >> Kristin >> Hersh and Tanya Donnelly are great, but rock? > > You've not heard Kristin's new band, the currently-unfortunately-named > 50 Foot Wave, then. No, I haven't. Sounds interesting. > Tanya, despite nominally playing lead on the > lion's share of the early Muses stuff, may not have really done so on > record and certainly hasn't much since then. I've seen the Muses live once (around the time University came out), but I mostly remember her solo shows. If I'm not entirely mistaken she had a guy for the grittier parts then. >> Material for a >> new thread, maybe? > > Perhaps, but you'd have to define "rock". If you mean bluesy > crunchiness, Well, I wouldn't call it "bluesy", because I'm not very fond of blues, but "crunchiness" sound about right. > you can start with PJ Harvey and work your way on down. Hmm, the few times I heard anything from her I found her voice too grating for my taste. That may very well be ignorance on my part. I know my sister likes her. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn EhrenfeldgC Subject: Re: 16 military wives John Barrington Jones wrote: > I've put the Decemberists new album up for a limited time at bad, naughty JBJ! And after Colin Meloy berated people for doing this, too! These look the same as the infamous 'Zach Shoup' leaked files, except with the file names and ID3 tags monkeyed with. It is, however, a truly fantastic album. By far the Decemberists' best yet. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 20:03:49 -0500 From: bisontentacle Subject: [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock - 2004-10-27 - Sin-, New York City (MD AUD / FLAC) http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21612&hit=1 - ----- Forwarded message from EZT ----- A new torrent has been uploaded to EZT. Torrent: 21612 Title: Robyn Hitchcock - 2004-10-27 - Sin-i, New York City (MD AUD / FLAC) Size: 352.77 MB Category: Singer/Songwriter Uploaded by: woj Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robyn Hitchcock October 27, 2004 Sin-i New York City Taper: Capt Rhyme Source: Sony ECM-MS907 > Sony MZ-B100 (LP2 stereo; autogain) Transfer: MDS-JB940 (optical out) > Delta Dio 2496 > CD Wave > flac Notes: This appears to be the only source for this belatedly announced show. It's a bit rough -- several drop-outs during the first track and sporadic mic fumbling noises throughout -- but it's still listenable. Thanks to the Capt for loaning me the master minidisc and Eric F. for the loan of the LP2-capable deck. Setlist: 01. Ole Tarantula (several dropouts at the start) 02. banter 03. I Got The Hots 04. banter 05. Only The Stones Remain 06. You Remind Me Of You 07. banter 08. All La Glory [The Band] 09. banter 10. When I Was Dead 11. banter 12. My Wife And My Dead Wife 13. banter 14. She Doesn't Exist 15. banter 16. Cheese Alarm 17. I Saw Nick Drake 18. banter 19. Full Moon In My Soul 20. encore break 21. Ralph, Give Me a Spanner (aborted) 22. Raymond Chandler Evening 23. banter 24. Solpadiene - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login). http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21612&hit=1 Take care! easytree.org - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:27:44 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: 16 military wives On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > bad, naughty JBJ! And after Colin Meloy berated people for doing this, too! I know I know. Colin's cousin may even still be subscribed to the list. But we're all music geeks. I'm sure Colin has downloaded advanced releases before. And I will be buying the actual cd on the day of its release. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 19:44:08 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: 16 military wives On Jan 7, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > bad, naughty JBJ! One might call him a scoundrel, but perhaps he is a freedom fighter. - - Steve __________ God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them. - George Bush, as related to Harretz by Mahmoud Abbas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 20:46:29 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: 16 military wives >From: John Barrington Jones >Subject: Re: 16 military wives >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:27:44 -0800 (PST) >But we're all music geeks. I'm sure Colin has downloaded advanced releases >before. And I will be buying the actual cd on the day of its release. Me too, when does it come out? Max ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 20:00:57 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Juliana Hatfield At 05:50 PM 1/7/2005, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >perhaps I missed it, but I think the only one of the end-of-the-year lists >mentioning Juliana Hatfield's new CD "In Exile Deo" was the one in the New >York Times. I wonder why that is. Is it too pedestrian for your collective >rarefied tastes? Personally, no -- I just happen not to have heard it. I'm a total sucker for Juliana but don't own anything after PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:40:12 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: 16 military wives Maximilian Lang wrote: > > Me too, when does it come out? 22 march, I think. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:19:02 -0500 From: bisontentacle Subject: Fwd: [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Soft Boys - April 22, 2001 Norwich, Eng Hitchcock >A new torrent has been uploaded to EZT. > >Torrent: 21630 >Title: Soft Boys - April 22, 2001 Norwich, Eng Hitchcock >Size: 500.52 MB >Category: Alternate >Uploaded by: NimrodSonny > >Description >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Soft Boys >The Waterfront >Norwich, England >Sun April 22, 2001 >Time: 79 minutes >Uploaded: nimrodsonny/midy/mike >Audience Recording > >?? => MD (master) => ?? => CDR => iTunes (aiff) => xACT => FLAC > >01. Intro >02. Kingdom of Love >03. Queen Of Eyes >04. Tonight >05. Old Pervert >06. My Mind Is Connected To Your Dreams >07. Only The Stones Remain >08. Underwater Moonlight >09. I Wanna Destroy You >10. Pulse Of My Heart >11. Leppo And The Jooves >12. The Face Of Death >13. Sudden Town >14. Insanely Jealous >15. <> >encore: >16. You'll Have To Go Sideways >17. Astronomy Domine * >18. Devil Mask (Sleeping with your) >19. Mr Kennedy > >* Pink Floyd Cover > >1.flac: d421a6bb2a10d59a3255ecd766d3d633 >2.flac: 5850748372dcc78377579ecc2d1841d8 >3.flac: 7415324d64894a12c56796f83fb5f436 >4.flac: 4b270b06505e683112b6570bb3d616b1 >5.flac: f449373ef608fec2514339adc8b1b0ea >6.flac: a3c714d85a5a6f7a4f61870021ab91e6 >7.flac: e28eaae72559c123d361b77afbff82cc >8.flac: bf0f7bfd037e97e01502b0ac3f2ff9fb >9.flac: 85ce606319f9cd5b07413ea7fba689c3 >10.flac: b344321f2a31833257f93441107dbde6 >11.flac: 471b48bc69f848d023a8988d1a6c3a20 >12.flac: c72e368a1ad666dc98c8dd27d71dfd54 >13.flac: 647234009405e17ddd128d2b582fb742 >14.flac: 901a10b487b53fa00d7a37eee3c39802 >15.flac: dd8e2f142e85b423556f12107145a0dd >16.flac: e2aef3a07a7524e0868f84e31b06d7ed >17.flac: 9679a261cb5c9ad1f8dac66b2ec01326 >18.flac: a64c77c2befe9719813c5bdf42409df5 >19.flac: 62cd28967bdc399b06ce1c40ba3196be > >home made cover work is included. Enjoy! > >mike (nimrodsonny) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login). > >http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21630&hit=1 > >Take care! > >easytree.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:12:09 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/ apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Obit%20Rosemary%20Kennedy Sad story. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:00:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap Eb wrote: > > > Sad story. Somewhere in hell, Joseph Kennedy's balls felt a few extra stings from the electrodes today. ===== "I had naively believed all these many years that Americans genuinely believed in freedom of speech. [But I] discovered there that when you made an utterance that was remotely contrary to what the White House was saying, then they attacked you. For a South African the dij` vu was frightening. They behaved exactly the same way that used to happen here [during apartheid] - vilifying those who are putting forward a slightly different view." -- Desmond Tutu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 23:03:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Reap Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com wrote: > I wonder if Carlson will loose his PBS show as well? If he does, it will only be because he no longer has time with his new MSNBC show, taking over Deborah Norville's slot. Apparently, The Capital Gang has been cancelled as well. Robert Novak, however, remains at large (and unpursued by the Bushistas). ===== "I had naively believed all these many years that Americans genuinely believed in freedom of speech. [But I] discovered there that when you made an utterance that was remotely contrary to what the White House was saying, then they attacked you. For a South African the dij` vu was frightening. They behaved exactly the same way that used to happen here [during apartheid] - vilifying those who are putting forward a slightly different view." -- Desmond Tutu Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 09:44:07 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Reap On Jan 8, 2005, at 1:03 AM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Robert Novak, however, remains at large (and > unpursued by the Bushistas). Maybe they pursued him in the same way they did Armstrong Williams. - - Steve __________ They tend to be people who are insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors. - Keith Bradsher's summary of the auto industry's own marketing research about SUV buyers. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:30:03 -0800 From: Ole Eldor Subject: Looking for help with chords Greetings, I hope this discussion group still exists. I am in a small ensemble just getting started, and want very much to learn to play the soft boys' "Its not just the size of a walnut" could anyone help me witht he chord progression? I cannot use tabulature, as I am not a guitarist. Thanks, Ole Eldor, Vancouver BC - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:10:07 -0600 From: steve Subject: Tragic/Hip? Fwd: Miyazaki paper at MLA 2004 There are a handful of academics on the Miyazaki list, here's a small report from one of them. Begin forwarded message: >> At this year's Modern Language Association Conference, in Philadelphia >> 27-30 December, Anthony Lioi is scheduled to present a paper on >> Miyazaki >> at a special session on anime and manga: >> >> "Anime and Manga: Animated/Graphic Human/Nature" >> >> 3. "Saint Francis the Robot: Reconciliations of Nature and >> Technoculture >> in the Work of Hayao Miyazaki", Anthony Lioi, MIT > > Well, I did make it to this session, and as promised I have a brief > review of Anthony Lioi's paper. (I posted reviews of each of the > papers > to the AMRC list; anyone who's not on that list and is interested can > find it at Yahoo Groups.) > > Overall, this was a good session. I went to a total of seven sessions > this year, which is a lot; heard twenty papers plus a Q&A with Kwame > Anthony Appiah and John Guillory. These three were definitely among > the > better ones. They were better than other anime papers (none really > discussed manga in any major fashion) I've heard at MLA, which tended > to > be touristy and fannish - enthusiastic but written from outside the > field. > > The session was well-attended, particularly considering the slot it was > scheduled into. The room had an audience capacity of 60, I think, and > there were few if any empty seats. Some of the audience members were > probably just fans - anime papers at MLA tend to attract some grad > students who are just looking for a break from job interviews - and no > doubt there were a number who, like me, don't work on anime > professionally (at least at the moment). But it was an excellent > showing in any case and there was a lot of after-session informal > discussion going on in the hall. > > Of the three papers, Lioi's was not quite as strong as Joseph Murphy's > (on mecha-apocalypse as cultural mediation) but better than Dennis > Redmond's (on _Evangelion_). It was a solid, straightforward piece, > unfortunately cut a bit short; Lioi wasn't able to discuss all of his > examples - he went over a few scenes from _Laputa_ but had to omit > others from _Spirited Away_. Fortunately, the thesis was clear and the > examples were present to support rather than illuminate it, so my sense > is that nothing indispensible was lost. > > Lioi gave us a fairly sophisticated narratological ecocritical reading > of Miyazaki's films. Notably, he did not reduce them to eco-fables or > claim they were paeans to nature, or anything of that sort. He > presented them as explorations of how nature/culture tensions might be > negotiated, which I think is entirely reasonable. > > In essence, his argument was that Miyazaki takes up competing themes > which enjoy a certain currency - particularly, for Lioi, in the West, > and explicitly in many Disney films - and transforms them to suggest > that in a better world they can be reconciled. This is especially the > case for the pastoral/technological dichotomy, he feels, which Miyazaki > does not resolve by privileging the pastoral. Rather, Miyazaki tries > to > suggest how a non-escapist pastoral mode might integrate technology > into > the pastoral setting. (It struck me that this might be an interesting > contrast with _Only Yesterday_, but I haven't seen that film - I only > know of it from discussions here.) > > So in _Totoro_, for example, the children only remain in the privileged > pastoral space until their mother recovers - after that they can no > longer see the Totoro. And technology is an element even in Totoro's > pastoral paradise, represented by the Catbus. Technology is > always-already present for Miyazaki, not something that we escape from. > > Lioi had some interesting comments on the use of the pastoral in Disney > and its connection to feudalism, and how that contrasted with various > political structures in Miyazaki's work. Unfortunately my notes on > that > are scanty, but it also seemed like a solid argument. > > Overall, this was one of the better ecological analyses I'd heard of > Miyazaki's work, particularly the comparison to Disney. Lioi is mostly > interested in Miyazaki's reception in the US, which strikes me as fair > enough; after _Spirited Away_'s Oscar win, if not before, Miyazaki has > become a significant artist in this country and comparing his work with > Disney's own output is a reasonable area of inquiry. - - Steve - ---------- This big deal about Bush landing on an aircraft carrier? Talk about a 6-year-old kid with a Tonka toy -- we got it here. - Neil Young ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V14 #6 ******************************