From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #359 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, December 18 2004 Volume 13 : Number 359 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The best thread in the history of the Feg List [Rex Broome ] Press-release hyperbole of the day [Eb ] [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends - White Album Benefit - 08/07/04 - London, England. [] Re: Theoretical Xmas lists? (0% ethnicity content) ["A Wonderful Human Pe] Re: The best thread in the history of the Feg List [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: Theoretical Xmas lists? (100% ethnicity content) [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: Theoretical Xmas lists? (0% ethnicity content) [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends - White Album Benefit - 08/07/04 - London, England. [] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #358 [Stony ] RE: Theoretical Xmas lists? (0% ethnicity content) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Sieve [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Sieve [Steve Talkowski ] RE: Theoretical Xmas lists? [Dolph Chaney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:05:15 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: The best thread in the history of the Feg List Quail: > So -- this does leave us with one burning question. Who will be President? Oh, there are more questions. Firstly, if the Progs are to be viewed as the party in power, we must postulate an opposition faction: the Punk Rock Party. Minority Leader Richard Hell, anyone? I guess one problem is that if we're to locate this future two-party system in America, Quail's list of cabinet member will have to be re-tailored to be less, erm, British. On the other hand, if there was ever a name I'd like to punch a ballot for, regardless of the actual character or political stance of the candidate, that name would be... "Captain Sensible". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:12:50 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: The best thread in the history of the Feg List The Great Quail wrote: > > Additionally, I nominate Ian Anderson as head of the Department of Fish and > Wildlife erm, I sincerely hope not. His fish farms have been cited as a major polluter of the Scottish coastal waters. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:43:13 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Rex's Soap > The Devoto-related CD that I can't seem to lay hands on is the Luxuria > album, which, if anything else on it is half as good as the track I > have heard ("Redneck"), must be worth owning. > There are TWO Luxuria albums, y'know. I have them, along with an indispensable 12-inch which contains a *complete* cover of Dylan's "She's Your Lover Now." (Dylan himself never recorded the entire song, of course....) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:51:39 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Press-release hyperbole of the day "Dinosaur Jr. single-handedly moved the indie scene from the rigid ideology and rapid fire bursts of hardcore and post-punk into a new era of introspective yet no less powerful expression." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:40:19 -0500 From: bisontentacle Subject: [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends - White Album Benefit - 08/07/04 - London, England. http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=18701&hit=1 - ----- Forwarded message from EZT ----- A new torrent has been uploaded to EZT. Torrent: 18701 Title: Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends - White Album Benefit - 08/07/04 - London, England. Size: 187.81 MB Category: Singer/Songwriter Uploaded by: kevinengland Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends The White Album Against the War Benefit 3 Kings, Clerkenwell London August 7, 2004 I received this in the mail this morning from Rick, a member of the Robyn Hitchcock Group on Yahoo. This is a soundboard recording of the first night which Rick's brother won in a raffle. Now, this is only the first half of the White Album - I'm not 100% sure if they played the whole album both nights or half each night. I've only had the chance to listen to a little of this and it's AMAZING. cdr > flac 1. intro 2. back in the ussr 3. dear prudence 4. glass onion 5. ob-la-di, ob-la-da 6. chat 7. honey pie 8. while my guitar gently weeps 9. happiness is a warm gun 10. chat 11. martha my dear 12. i'm so tired 13. blackbird 14. blackbird (reprise/conclusion) 15. piggies 16. rocky racoon 17. chat 18. don't pass me by 19. why don't we do it in the road 20. i will 21. julia - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login). http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=18701&hit=1 Take care! easytree.org - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:39:17 -0800 (PST) From: "A Wonderful Human Person" Subject: Re: Theoretical Xmas lists? (0% ethnicity content) <> <> huhn. i'd give the opposite advice: do not even *think* of passing "go" until you've heard *Never Mind The Bollocks*. but if you've not heard *Fresh Fruit* by now, don't worry too much about it. (mind you, i included "Let's Lynch The Landlord" in my entry in the songs-we-wish-we'd-written thread. . you know, it's sometimes kinda embarrassing reading all the stupid shit your wrote in old posts. but, whatever.) by the way, did i read somewhere that there's a new gang of four album? or was it a dream? dude, did you download the early-'80s priest torrents that popped up over at easytree a few months back? i saw them once, in '86, and liked them well enough. but, damn, this shit is just *astonishing*. if you didn't grab 'em, send me your snail-mail address. absolute must-hear for anybody who's worn out three copies of *British Steel*! heh heh, whenever playing Risk, i used to fire up "United" before mounting a large attack. (and, in retrospect, how could anyone have *not* known halford was gay? "this next song is about leatherleatherleatherleatherleather.") i'd concede the point were it not for the extraneous comma. how about maynard? that'd keep the fundamentalists occupied. fascinating series about the history of money being posted by the astoundingly prolific henry liu over at (where else) Asia Times Online. . KEN "Looking for meat" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:31:26 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: The best thread in the history of the Feg List On 17/dic/04, at 18:16, The Great Quail wrote: > Let's see.... If Roger Dean gets to redesign the Great Seal, we'll > need to > re-form Hipgnosis and set them to drafting a new currency. (And will > there > be naked men? Oh yes, there will be lots of naked men.) Let's see...I have Roger's number around here somewhere... Hipnosis? Oh, I get it, you mean Pignoses*. Yeah, right. Might have a few of those numbers around here too... I suggest Great Seal redesign by Winston Smith. And how could you form any kind of REAL american government without Jello Biafra at the reigns of at least one of the houses, if not the white one? Good God man. Oh, but then, that would be a *different* government. Oh, and right, we'd have "fireside chats" 24/7. Biafra is not capable of shutting up. New national anthem is obvious: "California Uber Alles." - - c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:51:11 -0800 (PST) From: "A Wonderful Human Person" Subject: Conversations with the Chef (An Ongoing Series) [Exposition: we play a twice-weekly tournament throwing ramekins and soup spoons from about fifteen feet into a five-gallon bucket seated on a waist-high bench. there are eight rounds of ten: right arm, overhand; right arm, underhand; left arm, overhand; and left arm, underhand; with each of the two implements. high-scorer receives $5 from each of the other entrants.] CHEF: [After Eric had missed a number of tough-luck shots.] It wasn't your effort. If you want to show the finger up there [i.e., to God], I wouldn't mind. ERIC: [Showing the finger (both of them, acutally) to God.] ME: [Laughing.] later: CHEF: [While in the process of missing many shots.] Fuckin' *God*! Piss-ass son of a bitch! FUCK YOU! ME: [Laughing.] later: CHEF: [Expounding upon the enhanced skillz of older people (he's in his late-40s).] MARILYN: Is that why you're so cranky? Because you're old? CHEF: No. That's because I work with so many stupid people (like Eddie). You tell them do it one way. But, no, they wouldn't. They do their own way. ME: [Laughing.] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:54:57 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #358 > >>12) NEUTRAL MILK HOTEL, In the Aeroplane Over the Sea > > >What?! There's someone on the list without this? How dare you not have > >it at #1 > >there's two -- tom clark gave me his copy. three. Never seen a copy. >So -- this does leave us with one burning question. Who will be President? It would need someone who can keep track of all the other proggers and somehow stay in step with them, while looking calm and composed - Bill Bruford would be about the only possibility there. Or possibly someone who can make them all sound like they know what they're doing by 'orchestrating their sound' (someone like Alan Parsons, maybe?) Ebwingo offers: > OK, name up to 20 older albums (let's say, at least pre-2000?) which > you'd like to get for Xmas. Still waiting to replace some of my scratchy old vinyl, like: *Patti Smith - Wave *Pete Shelley - Homosapien *Fripp/Summers - I advance masked ...and I hear they've just rereleased almost everything Godley & Creme ever did, including an album I've never heard of, and a thorough remastering with many bonus tracks of all of Paul Simon's solo work. of stuff I have never owned: *Andy Partridge - Fuzzy Warbles (any and all of it) *The Who - BBC sessions *Bob Dylan - Time out of mind *Shriekback - Naked apes & pondlife *Curve - Pubic fruit *Budd/Partridge - Through the hill *Spill - Burnt blind [1] *the aforementioned Neutral Milk Hotel album *Happyhead - Give [2] [1] and [2] - I don't even know whether they exist, though I've heard rumours., [1] was apparently an album by Beth Orton and William Orbit; [2] was apparently a Shriekback sideproject Still gotta find a copy of Spooked, too, although I have now heard a few tracks from it via a CD-R of one of Robyn's shows from a few weeks back. What's the one about the children who are ghosts and dyeing your hair blond? It's lovely... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 02:51:03 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Theoretical Xmas lists? (100% ethnicity content) >> OK, name up to 20 older albums (let's say, at least pre-2000?) which >> you'd like to get for Xmas. Because I really want them/never owned them/owned them but lost them: Fabrizio de Andre - anything he did but mostly "Il Viaggio" Goran Bregovic - Iz sve snage Zibigniew Preissner - Soundtrack from The Dekalog Fanfare Ciocarlia - anything of theirs will do Anonymous 4 - A Mass For The End of Time Tallis Scholars - Josquin Masses Sarum Chant Sequentia - Ordo Virtutum Visions from the Book Jan Gabarek - Visible World Eberhard Weber - Later That Evening It's OK to Listen to the Gray Voice Steve Reich - God, where do I begin? Anything would be great. Negativland - Negativland (1st) Tom Waits - Frank's Wild Years ( a replacement for the one stolen from me in London last year) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Kicking Against The Pricks (believe it or not, there IS a Nick Cave album I DON"T own!) Sun Ra - yeah, anything For nostalgia's sake: Joni Mitchell - Blue Steve Stills - First Solo Album Buffalo Springfield - Buffalo Springfield Again Yeah, there is the NMH IAAOTS album that this list has raved about for years now. But I've yet to hear it. Then, I've only Robyn in common, musically speaking, with this list... Be Seeing You, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:26:18 -0500 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Rex's Soap Eb wrote: >along with an indispensable 12-inch which contains a *complete* cover of >Dylan's "She's Your Lover Now." (Dylan himself never recorded the entire >song, of course....) ...slight grrrrrr of jealously... The Dylan cover was actually featured on an UNCUT Magazine all-Dylan covers CD I think about two years ago. I was surprised Devoto was on the UNCUT 'Dylan panel'... I remember he listed his favourite Dylan lyric as the line in 'Idiot Wind': "I kissed goodbye the howling beast / on the borderline that separated you from me..." I have the LP and now a CD copy of 'Unanswerable Lust' - a friend gave the CD to me last Christmas - he seems to be able to get pretty much anything save a reasonably-priced copy of 'XO' on vinyl (can't expect miracles...) I confess that IMO 'Beast Box' pales to all other Devoto, but I pretty much haven't listened to it since it came out so perhaps I should give it another chance. Okay, here's where I confess that my love for Devoto's solo album 'Jerky Versions of the Dream' can probably best be described by my owning *three* copies of the LP. *That* I would love to have on CD. Any Devoto fan should go to the used-record shop and pick him or herself up a copy for the 99 cents or whatever they are undercharging these days. "I don't know why some things bother to change.' - Devoto At any rate, I likely shouldn't get started on Devoto... xo Lauren - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I hate all music. Except 'Roadrunner' by The Modern Lovers." - John Lydon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:28:58 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Theoretical Xmas lists? (0% ethnicity content) On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, A Wonderful Human Person wrote: > by the way, did i read somewhere that there's a new gang of four album? > or was it a dream? The original four got back together and have been playing concerts. Not sure an album has been announced. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:29:09 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Rex's Soap > Lauren: > I confess that IMO 'Beast Box' pales to all other Devoto, but I pretty > much haven't > listened to it since it came out so perhaps I should give it another > chance. People always say how bad Beast Box is...I don't really see why. I haven't listened to either album in ages but, at the time, I recall enjoying Beast Box more than Unanswerable Lust. > Okay, here's where I confess that my love for Devoto's solo album > 'Jerky > Versions of the Dream' can probably best be described by my owning > *three* copies > of the LP. *That* I would love to have on CD. Any Devoto fan should > go to > the used-record shop and pick him or herself up a copy for the 99 > cents or whatever > they are undercharging these days. I think my copy cost 99 cents. ;) I didn't like that album as well as the Luxuria albums. A bit too radio-slick. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:30:38 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends - White Album Benefit - 08/07/04 - London, England. Can someone just attach it or send it to me? I don't belong to easytree and they are not allowing new registrations. Fuck! - -- Computers are like air conditioning. Neither one works when you open windows. On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, bisontentacle wrote: > http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=18701&hit=1 > > ----- Forwarded message from EZT ----- > > A new torrent has been uploaded to EZT. > > Torrent: 18701 > Title: Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends - White Album Benefit - 08/07/04 - London, England. > Size: 187.81 MB > Category: Singer/Songwriter > Uploaded by: kevinengland > > Description > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends > The White Album Against the War Benefit > 3 Kings, Clerkenwell > London > August 7, 2004 > > I received this in the mail this morning from Rick, a member of the Robyn Hitchcock Group on Yahoo. This is a soundboard recording of the first night which Rick's brother won in a raffle. Now, this is only the first half of the White Album - I'm not 100% sure if they played the whole album both nights or half each night. I've only had the chance to listen to a little of this and it's AMAZING. > > cdr > flac > > > 1. intro > 2. back in the ussr > 3. dear prudence > 4. glass onion > 5. ob-la-di, ob-la-da > 6. chat > 7. honey pie > 8. while my guitar gently weeps > 9. happiness is a warm gun > 10. chat > 11. martha my dear > 12. i'm so tired > 13. blackbird > 14. blackbird (reprise/conclusion) > 15. piggies > 16. rocky racoon > 17. chat > 18. don't pass me by > 19. why don't we do it in the road > 20. i will > 21. julia > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login). > > http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=18701&hit=1 > > Take care! > > easytree.org > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:25:22 +1100 (EST) From: Stony Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #358 So -- this does leave us with one burning question. Who will be President? I'd vote for a Syd Barrett/Rogers Waters ticket if they promised to appoint Robyn as Secretary of Agriculture........ - --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:38:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Theoretical Xmas lists? (0% ethnicity content) Michael.Bachman wrote: > >> The Go-Betweens/78 'Til 79: The Lost Album > > Eb wrote: > > >Not so great. > > I agree. Spend your Go-Betweens money on the double disc > reissues instead. That's already been done...even found a used copy of _fireboy_ the same day at the same store. And with a bunch a crap I traded in (including old copies of tallulah and 16 lovers lane), only cost me around $7. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:00:40 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Theoretical Xmas lists? (100% ethnicity content) Hi Carrie, - -- Carrie Galbraith is rumored to have mumbled on Samstag, 18. Dezember 2004 2:51:03 Uhr MEZ +0200 regarding Re: Theoretical Xmas lists? (100% ethnicity content): >>> OK, name up to 20 older albums (let's say, at least pre-2000?) which >>> you'd like to get for Xmas. > > Because I really want them/never owned them/owned them but lost them: > Fabrizio de Andre - anything he did but mostly "Il Viaggio" I've mentioned before that he is one of my favorites. "Il Viaggio" sounded unfamiliar, so I looked it up and found that it's a collection of his early recordings that I have under a different name: "La canzone di Marinella". I am lucky enough to have a friend who owns "Opere complete", the 14-CD collection of his work. You can't get it here in Germany and as far as I know it's sold out in Italy as well. She loaned it to me and I made copies of all the CDs I didn't already have - it's great! My favorite albums of his are probably "Rimini" and "Vol. 8". > Goran Bregovic - Iz sve snage I know and like his music from the Kusturica movies, but I've never been moved to get anything on CD. > Zibigniew Preissner - Soundtrack from The Dekalog A Polish friend of mine has recommended him to me. I suppose I must've heard some of his music in Kieszlowski movies, but I don't have a clear idea of what he sounds like. > Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Kicking Against The Pricks > (believe it or not, there IS a Nick Cave album I DON"T own!) I only have it on tape, but it's quite definitely my *favorite* Nick Cave album. > Yeah, there is the NMH IAAOTS album that this list has raved about for > years now. But I've yet to hear it. Same here. It's not easy to find in Germany and then it's quite pricey. > Then, I've only Robyn in common, > musically speaking, with this list... Not so! Now that you are in Romania I suppose you've already heard (of) Romica Puceanu? Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn EhrenfeldgC Subject: Sieve I'm upset. Last night I was told that "sieve" does not rhyme with "grieve". I am now 36 years old and have been learning English for 26 years, but there are still quite basic words that I don't know how to pronounce correctly :-( I blame Hollywood (that's the thing to do, right?). The word just doesn't come up often enough in those Jerry Bruckheimer flicks ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn EhrenfeldgC Subject: Re: Sieve On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I'm upset. Last night I was told that "sieve" does not rhyme with > "grieve". I am now 36 years old and have been learning English for 26 > years, but there are still quite basic words that I don't know how to > pronounce correctly :-( Mangling the occasional semi-common word is standard practice for some of us book-fed American-born folks. Half of my college radio station pronounced segue 'sayg'. My housemate says rampage 'RAMP-ij', as if it were a supply of ramps. I find this bizarre but endearing. a ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:48:30 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Sieve On Dec 18, 2004, at 10:04 AM, Aaron Mandel wrote: > Half of my college radio station pronounced segue 'sayg'. Oh come on! Everyone knows it's pronounced just like the scooter. ; P badda bump! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:10:54 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: RE: Theoretical Xmas lists? >From: Eb >Subject: Theoretical Xmas lists? (0% ethnicity content) > >>OK, name up to 20 older albums (let's say, at least pre-2000?) which >>you'd like to get for Xmas. 1 Bats - COMPILETELY BATS 2 Bonzo Dog Band - CORNOLOGY 3 Can - SOUNDTRACKS (the new SACD) 4 The Chills - KALEIDOSCOPE WORLD 5 The Clean - HELLO CRUEL WORLD 6 Containe - ONLY COWARDS WALK LIKE COWARDS 7 Bob Dylan, BRINGING IT ALL BACK HOME (the SACD remaster) 8 Brian Eno, ANOTHER GREEN WORLD (and I only don't have it because I didn't know whether the mastering error in the '04 reissue which was reported here got fixed -- does anybody know???) 9 The High Llamas, HAWAII 10 The Jazz Butcher, SEX AND TRAVEL 11 The Kinks, FACE TO FACE (the recent UK reissue) 12 The Raincoats, MOVING 13 Jonathan Richman, I, JONATHAN 14 Sonny Sharrock Band, SEIZE THE RAINBOW 15 Slowdive, PYGMALION 16 Tall Dwarfs, WEEVILLE 17 Television, MARQUEE MOON (the remaster) 18 U2, THE UNFORGETTABLE FIRE (MFSL gold disc) 19 Robert Wyatt, RUTH IS STRANGER THAN RICHARD 20 Neil Young, TIME FADES AWAY (the non-existant but stellar-in-my-head CD remaster that he'll never do) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #359 ********************************