From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #352 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, December 11 2004 Volume 13 : Number 352 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A [] Brighton Komedia Review/Setlist [bisontentacle ] Re: Re: Re: (extracting the Renaldo) ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Brighton Komedia Review/Setlist [Eb ] REAP ["Jay Lyall" ] Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A [Benjamin Lukoff ] SP (informal notes) [Eb ] Re: Rolling Stone's 500 Best Songs ["Randalljr" ] Re: SP (informal notes) [Tom Clark ] REAP ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Rolling Stone's 500 Best Songs ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Subject: Re: Re: (extracting the deadhead sticker from the cadillac) [Tom Clark ] BOC's 500 Best Songs ["Michael Wells" ] Re: BOC's 500 Best Songs [The Great Quail ] Re: BOC's 500 Best Songs [Ken Weingold ] Conversations With the Chef (An Ongoing Series) ["A Wonderful Human Perso] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:48:14 -0500 From: Subject: Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A On Thu Dec 2 16:40 , Benjamin Lukoff blukoff@alvord.com> sent: >> to buy tit jobs for their wives and girlfriends. that is fucking weird. > >Seriously though, "most boob guys are shallow Christians"? Surely not, >said the half-Jewish agnostic. I meant that half jokingly but it's probably right. I don't keep stats on those sort of things but in the US, I'd wager money on the vast majority being protestant with 2.1 children, 2.9 cars, 1.3 dogs, central heat and air and a deer lease. Not to change the subject but, 1/2 Jewish? Can someone be for instance, 1/4 Wiccan, or 11/32 Christian? That seems like classifying someone as 1/2 physician because their mother is a doctor. >> i have met some beautiful boobs who had a really ugly girl. > >Never had the same experience with an ass? Maybe ugly, but not really ugly. A nice ass can make up for things that boobs just can't recover from. gSs nip - a touch of gray, gd - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:49:20 -0500 From: bisontentacle Subject: Brighton Komedia Review/Setlist - ----- Forwarded message from MichaelBlencowe ----- From: MichaelBlencowe Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:05:07 EST Subject: Mushroom and Chestnut pie To: woj@smoe.org Monday 6th December, 204 Ooh, I've always wanted to write one of these! Just gotten in from The Komedia, the next street over from my flat, Brighton, East Sussex, England. Band: Robyn Hitchcock and the Final Groove Members: Robyn Hitchcock, Kimberley Rew, Morris Windsor, Paul Noble, Terry Edwards Support act: Viarosa Shirt: Black with white spots Number of instruments Terry played that I couldn't confidently name: 2 Girlfriend's choice of meal: Mushroom & Chestnut Pie Number of mouthfuls before she declared it 'horrible': 2 My favourite song of the night: (joint winner) Night Ride to Trinidad / Ole Tarantula Setlist: 1. She belongs to me 2. Alright, Yeah w/ Morris 3. Television w/ Morris 4. Ole! Tarantula w/ Morris & Terry 5. Full Moon in my Soul w/ Morris & Terry Enter Kimberley & Paul 6. Love don't live here anymore 7. Do the Chisel 8. Leppo & the Jooves 9. Swirling 10. My wife & my dead wife 11. Night ride to trinidad 12. Where are the prawns? 13. City of women 14. The Underneath 15. Kingdom of Love 16. Pigworker 17. Brenda's Iron Sledge 18. Stayin' Alive/ Listening to the Higsons encore 19. I often dream of trains w/ Kimberley 20. Savoy Truffle w/ All 21. Jewels for Sophia 22. Up on Cripple Creek And just a quick message for all those folk out in internetland who have supplied me with setlists over the years: Thanks a million Michael - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:29:03 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Re: Re: (extracting the Renaldo) > From: 2fs > Subject: Re: Re: (extracting the,) > > So is the first Renaldo & The Loaf reference on this list? Is guava a donut? Heck no. I can recall discussing said band with James, Russ (maybe), and someone else several times in the past. Honest. Well, anyway, excuse the fuck out of me for posting this. NP: Silver Apples, "Oscillations" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:49:12 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Renaldo and the Loaf > So is the first Renaldo & The Loaf reference on this list? No, sorry, Gene and I discussed them many many moons ago, when the pothead pixies ruled the list from the planet Gong and all was boom boom crash crash. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:29:57 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Brighton Komedia Review/Setlist > 22. Up on Cripple Creek Huh. Has he played that before? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:38:49 -0600 From: "Jay Lyall" Subject: REAP http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=3Dstory&cid=3D495&ncid=3D762&e=3D7&= u=3D/ap/20041209/ap_en_mu/obit_scoggins 'Beverly Hillbillies' Singer Dies at 93=20 47 minutes ago Entertainment - AP Music=20 =20 LOS ANGELES - Jerry Scoggins, who sang "The Ballad of Jed Clampett" that = introduced the comical Clampett clan on "The Beverly Hillbillies," has = died. He was 93.=20 =20 Scoggins, the lead singer of the Cass County Boys, died Tuesday of = natural causes at his home in Westlake Village.=20 In 1962, the country and western singer was working as a stockbroker and = singing on weekends when he was asked to record a theme song for the = pilot of the television series starring Buddy Ebsen (news).=20 Bluegrass stars Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs played guitar and banjo on = "The Ballad of Jed Clampett" while Scoggins sang the lyrics.=20 The song and series were instant hits, and the ballad made the national = hit parade in 1963.=20 The series, which ran on CBS from 1962 to 1971, was ranked as TV's No. 1 = program in its first two seasons and drew up to 60 million viewers at = its peak.=20 Scoggins was retired when he read in 1993 that 20th Century Fox was = planning a movie version of the series. He called the studio and was put = through to music supervisor Steve Smith, who told him, "Criminy I didn't = know you were still around."=20 The studio had wanted Johnny Cash or Willie Nelson to sing the theme for = the movie, but director Penelope Spheeris held out for Scoggins.=20 "I wanted to keep as much familiarity in the movie as I could find, and = that was a key part: people's familiarity with his voice," she told the = Los Angeles Times in 1993.=20 Scoggins estimated that by the movie he had sung "The Ballad of Jed = Clampett" more than 1,000 times since first recording it.=20 Scoggins was born in Mount Pleasant, Texas, and began singing and = playing guitar on Dallas radio in the early 1930s. In 1936 he formed the = Cass County Kids with John "Bert" Dodson and Fred Martin.=20 Gene Autry (news) changed the group's name to the Cass County Boys when = he hired them in 1946 for his Melody Ranch radio program. They worked = with Autry for 12 years on radio and television, and performed in 17 of = his movies.=20 The group also recorded and performed on TV with Bing Crosby (news) in = the early 1950s.=20 The Cass County Boys were inducted into the Western Music Hall of Fame = in 1996. They also received a Golden Boot Award from the Motion Picture = and Television Fund.=20 Scoggins, a widower, is survived by two daughters, Judy Headley of Santa = Barbara and Jane Kelly of Westlake Village; five grandchildren; and one = great-granddaughter.=20 - ---------------------------------------- Jay Lyall - Houston, Texas "Making people laugh is the lowest form of comedy." - Mike Donohue [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of addtomyyahoo3.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:49:56 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 gshell@americangroupisp.com wrote: > Not to change the subject but, 1/2 Jewish? Can someone be for instance, > 1/4 Wiccan, or 11/32 Christian? That seems like classifying someone as > 1/2 physician because their mother is a doctor. I'm 1/2 physician, too. Jewishness is not merely a religious thing but an ethnic and cultural one as well. As far as religion goes, I'm 0% Jewish, but ethnically, I'm half. (Not the physician half, either!) BDL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:56:19 -0800 From: Eb Subject: SP (informal notes) By the way, I didn't get around to mentioning that I took in a dose of Woj-pop on Monday, with Sam Phillips at the Troubadour. I've been a big fan of hers ever since The Indescribable Wow, but I had only seen her once before -- and that was back in 1992, when she opened for Bruce Cockburn, playing about six songs on acoustic guitar and then walking off without a word. Hardly a satisfying set. So, I was really looking forward to seeing her again. I've been to the Troubadour a multitude of times, but this is the first time I've ever seen *chairs* set up on the main floor. Eek. Luckily, the show wasn't especially crowded. I suppose the chairs fit the music (and the demographic), but the ambience did make me feel like a bit of a grandpa. I guess she has turned into one of those old-folks bands, where the fans prefer to sit! I also noted that all, or almost all, of the chairs had small nametags taped to them. I know KCRW had a big hand in promoting this show, so perhaps they gave away all the seats to listeners. Another surprise -- which I didn't notice until well into the evening - -- is that the club has recently added a new balcony. Just a "pew" of sorts, running along the stage-right wall, underneath the VIP room. It adds capacity for only 20-25 more people, but I suppose it will eventually pay for itself once the extra ticket revenues add up. I can foresee some performer with a wireless mic or guitar having fun running up there to spontaneously bond with the crowd. Opening was the Section Quartet (http://www.thesection.net/index.html), who also played during some of Phillips' songs. Yes, it was a string quartet, pulling that ever-so-fresh move of retooling popular songs for classical strings. Where do they come up with these ideas? The group's droll leader seemed pretty proud of himself, and assured us that it was "still rock 'n' roll." Oh brudder. The fun was listening to a "disguised" piece for a minute or two, and then suddenly realizing what it was. I didn't recognize the first tune at all because it was Radiohead ("Just," I believe he said?) but, during the second song, it suddenly clicked in my mind that they were playing Jeff Buckley's "Grace." Aha. That was *before* the guy spoke, and informed us that revamping rock songs was the group's whole shtick. The set went on like that...the Yeah Yeah Yeahs' "Maps," QOTSA's "No One Knows," more Radiohead ("No Surprises"), wrapping up with Cream's "Sunshine of Your Love".... I'm probably forgetting another song or two. It wasn't a long set. The leader also mentioned they would be playing OK Computer and Dark Side of the Moon in their entirety for upcoming gigs at the Echo. Check the group's discography on the website -- they actually have a fairly diverse set of recording credits, despite the apparent formula of their live performances. Phillips walked onstage about 9:40pm, her lithe dancer's frame clad in boots and a black, long-sleeved dress. Chin-length blond hair, looking a bit fried. She has an interesting stage manner -- she's surprisingly funny in a low-key, self-deprecating way, and she sings like a movie heroine tiptoeing through a haunted house, nervously checking the ceiling for bats. The show was heavily in the new torch-song vein which she has been exploring since she moved to Nonesuch. Personally, I prefer the most recent album, A Boot and a Shoe, to the earlier Fan Dance. Her backing band rotated quite a bit. Sometimes the string quartet re-emerged, sometimes the group's leader played by himself. On a few songs, he played something called a "Stroh violin," a notably bizarre item which looks like a violin with a trumpet bell attached (http://www.ohek.co.uk/instruments/stroviols.htm). I had never seen this gizmo before, and later asked him myself what it was. The band also included a keyboard player, crouched on a low stool, and a drummer with an odd kit centered around a large, shallow bass drum which was bluishly illuminated from inside. He usually played with thick, padded sticks, so the drumming was more about "booms" rather than rattling snares. This strange slant is also prominent on A Boot and a Shoe, where the drumming actually seems a little crude and intrusive to me at times. Sam played acoustic guitar, an occasional electric guitar and -- memorably, on one song -- a small, handheld tape recorder which she held up to the mic and sang along with. She claimed that the piano-centered track was performed by Wilco, but it was hard to tell whether she was kidding or not. She also had this endearing manuever of tightly jiggling the recorder at certain moments, which gave the taped music an extra warble. Really enjoyed that trick. Another interesting stage device was that she had a small table in back at the left, and during a couple of instrumental breaks, she glided back there to quietly sit and watch the band. A candle added ambience, sitting on the table in a red glass ball. The set was about an hour, including a two-song encore. She didn't actually leave the stage before the encore, instead shooting down the whole milk-the-applause-for-more-songs ritual a song earlier. Good for her. The songs were well-chosen, and only a couple of them displayed my chief gripe about her: how she writes too many choruses which simply consist of one repeated line. This often lets the air out of some of her better melodic hooks. Unfortunate. She spoke quite a bit at times, and stayed quiet during other intervals. It was the final date of the tour, so I think she was feeling looser about speaking to the audience. One particularly long spiel included some talk about how this year hadn't turned out the way she expected (my suspicion that she was alluding to Bush's victory was confirmed, a minute later), and some rueful talk for its own sake. She was obviously enjoying testing the boundaries of how-long-is-too-long, and when she made some droll comment about making the audience impatient, the unthinkable happened: Yes, one of the dreaded "WE LOVE YOU!" people called out. Oh, calamity! Mysteriously, no one pelted the man with torrents of flung drinks, so I looked upward, hoping those bats might descend to bloodily pick his skull clean. Alas, that didn't happen either. There is no justice. If Phillips played any songs from her Virgin days, I couldn't identify them. I was also crossing my fingers that the divine Lauren Graham would be in the audience (due to the "Gilmore Girls" connection), but she was not. However, Phillips did thank two other "Gilmore" folks at one point, so I suppose some behind-the-scenes types were in the house. Also thanked from the stage: Joe Henry, whose face I wouldn't be able to identify. I had a turtle carved out of soap which I planned to give Sam after the show, but was unable to do so. I felt traumatized that I wasn't able to wrap up the night in the proper way, but did my best to endure and remember the show's earlier pleasures instead. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:50:50 -0800 From: "Randalljr" Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's 500 Best Songs From: "Miles Goosens" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers have always been an > unmitigated force for good - wonderful songs, cool performances, > inteligence without pretention, always a pleasure as a live act. Or > maybe it's just me who thinks all that. and I can play the guitar to them! Never seen them live. I'd have to assume Tom Petty is as stoned as he sounds on CD. > And for the record, "The Boys of Summer" is a Henley/Campbell > co-write, though it's my understanding that it's mostly words by > Henley, music by Campbell, so your correspondent was substantially > right in the authorship department. I also love the song and the > video. In fact, it's the rare case where the video surpasses, even > transcends, the song itself. 1-The Boys of Summer is an awesome song because of the percussion. Being a "Rock N Roll Drummer", I dig percussion, and, ummm Spinal Tap. 2-Tom Petty has the best videos, of course. Favorite is Last Dance With Mary Jane. And in the "What The Fuck?" category....where's Rush in the Best Songs list? Vince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:28:29 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: SP (informal notes) On Dec 9, 2004, at 10:56 AM, Eb wrote: > I had a turtle carved out of soap which I planned to give Sam after > the show, but was unable to do so. I felt traumatized that I wasn't > able to wrap up the night in the proper way, but did my best to endure > and remember the show's earlier pleasures instead. > Okay, what have you done with Eb? Oh Calamity! - -tc nd - hot water w/ day-old lemon wedge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:52:12 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: REAP 'Dimebag' Darrell Abbott 38, former guitarist for the Metal band Pantera was shot to death while performing in a nightclub in Colombus, Ohio last night. Three other persons and the gunman were also killed. Although 'Dimebag' was not a'strummy folkie' or otherwise; he was an excellent musician and performer. His father was country-western singer/songwriter Jerry Abbott. 24 years previous to the day, John Lennon was killed by Mark Chapman. The story: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Nightclub-Shooting.html?hp&ex=1102654800&en=0898a7aa99a96420&ei=5094&partner=homepage It can be a tough biz, sometimes.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:01:53 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's 500 Best Songs Marc: > Has Robyn ever done a cover of "Rhinestone Cowboy"? If he hasn't, he > probably should. Love it! Note that both Glen Cambell songs that made the list were penned by Jimmy Webb...kind of surprised that one or two more of his ("Galveston," "The Moon's a Harsh Mistriss") didn't pop us as well. Kris Kristofferson only shows up as a writer as well ("Me and Bobby McGee"). Other surprises? No "Judy in Disguise," only one entry each from Cheap Trick and BOC, and the fact that Metallica gets a nod at all. Not surprised that Yawn Weiner's Canadian rock bias continues, any Rush song was surely vetoed. No Heart songs either, and of course no Townes van Zandt or Robyn. Not that I would have expected any. Michael "but for fuck's sake, please not 'MacArthur Park'" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:59:12 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Subject: Re: Re: (extracting the,) effing Jeff asked: >So is [this] the first Renaldo & The Loaf reference on this list? hell, it's not my first. So no. I quote: >Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:55:20 +1300 >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) >Subject: Re: books > > >"Belle Ombre had two new dial telephones since about three months, and one > >no longer had to get a long-distance number through the operator." > > >How do you feel about the first part? Is that English? To me it sounds like > >German ... > >it's also how you'd translate it directly from the French. "...depuis vers >de trois mois...", IIRC. > >jv <- so, is Hitler a pitcher or a catcher? > >Is Dover a seaport? Has Grover a passport? - --- >And there is one solo song by a former Eagle I actually >like, which is really horrifyingly embarassing ("Boys of >Summer" -- great video too, which may be part of why I >genuinely really like the song, though I wouldn't be caught >dead owning it on any album). the Eagles go up one notch for being constant supporters of Warren Zevon. - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:11:35 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Re: (extracting the deadhead sticker from the cadillac) On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:59:12 +1300, James Dignan wrote: >dead owning it on any album). > > the Eagles go up one notch for being constant supporters of Warren Zevon. Even so, am I the only one here who won't admit to liking "Boys of Summer"... or as the prevailing winds would have it, am I the only one who'll admit to *disliking* it? And I even like Tom Petty just fine! - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:30:08 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's 500 Best Songs > Other surprises? No "Judy in Disguise" That's a surprise? > Not surprised that Yawn Weiner's Canadian rock bias continues That's objectionable? ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:38:11 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Re: (extracting the deadhead sticker from the cadillac) On Dec 9, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > Even so, am I the only one here who won't admit to liking "Boys of > Summer"... or as the prevailing winds would have it, am I the only one > who'll admit to *disliking* it? Hate it, hate it, fucking hate it. > > And I even like Tom Petty just fine! > Me too. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:22:21 -0500 From: Jon Lewis Subject: Re: Rolling Stone's 500 Best Songs On Thursday, December 9, 2004, at 01:50 PM, Randalljr wrote: > > > 2-Tom Petty has the best videos, of course. Favorite is Last Dance > With Mary Jane. > > Wait, wait wait. Don't Come Around Here No More, surely?! I'll admit to liking Boys Of Summer, especially the lead guitar playing. Never knew it was Campbell before now. I'll also admit to liking Dirty Laundry, but that's as far as I go on the Henley Local. Speaking of which, we went to Walden Pond last week. My wife's sister said: "Last time I was here, I was having all these deep philosophical feelings and gazing at the water. Then I looked behind me and some guy was jerking off in the woods." Of course I had to ask if it was Don Henley. Just out of curiosity, what Blue Oyster Cult song made the top 500 list? I assume it's Reaper, which is a great song, but I'd be mighty delighted if it was Dominance And Submission, or Subhuman. An important discovery for me this year has been that the first 3.5 BOC albums totally RULE, lyrically and musically. No irony needed, either. Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 20:27:05 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: BOC's 500 Best Songs Jon: > Just out of curiosity, what Blue Oyster Cult song made the top 500 list? I assume it's Reaper, which is a great song, but I'd be mighty delighted if it was Dominance And Submission, or Subhuman. You assume correctly. I had been expecting "Burning for You" and mebbe even "Godzilla" to make it too, but hoping for early material would be a stretch. Good as they (still) are, TYRANNY AND MUTATION and SECRET TREATIES barely register in these types of polls...they only seem to crop up in things like 'Guitar Player's Survey: Dimebag Darrell's Ten Best Hard Rock Albums You've Never Heard.' Funny though, you ask any player over a certain age about Buck and he's immediately cited as an influence...making the inclusion of only one song all the more curious. For my money it all stopped about the time CLUB NINJA came out, but that's still an utterly amazing run of albums. > An important discovery for me this year has been that the first 3.5 BOC albums totally RULE, lyrically and musically. No irony needed, either. MRG, check it out! The flame still burns! Michael "she's as beautiful as a foot" Wells np: "Hot Rails to Hell" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:35:08 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: BOC's 500 Best Songs > Just out of curiosity, what Blue Oyster Cult song made the top 500 list? I > assume it's Reaper, which is a great song, but I'd be mighty delighted if it > was Dominance And Submission, or Subhuman. Or my favorite, "Veteran of the Psychic Wars!" The world needs more songs penned by Michael Moorcock. And more cowbell. - --The Gredt Q|ail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:45:10 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: BOC's 500 Best Songs On Fri, Dec 10, 2004, The Great Quail wrote: > Or my favorite, "Veteran of the Psychic Wars!" The world needs more songs > penned by Michael Moorcock. And more cowbell. Oh, yeah. I first heard that in the movie Heavy Metal. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:37:55 -0800 (PST) From: "A Wonderful Human Person" Subject: Conversations With the Chef (An Ongoing Series) CHEF: Last night, after that-- [i.e., after leaving work] ME: Your wife called. CHEF: Yeah. I went to the Big Apple [a local gambling parlour]. Then when I got home, she was, like, beating me up. ME: [Sniggering.] CHEF: Yeah! I told her, "Stop being wiolent." ME: [Laughing uproariously.] CHEF: I'm not kidding! I told her, "Just calm down, and go do something." later: CHEF: There's two bitches, I know, every time they sit down at my table, I never win a hand. *Two* bitches. ME: [Laughing.] later stll: CHEF: There's this one dealer, he's kind of gay...I think he's gay. He doesn't like me to say the "fuck". Other day I lost ten hands in a row, I told him, "What the fuck are you dealing me here, buddy?" He called the floor, and told them, "This guy is saying the...uhh...fuck-word." ME: [Laughing.] unfortunately, the *Conversations With the Chef* series will be ending in three weeks' time, as the restaurant closes its doors for good. it'll be a few weeks short of ten years in mukilteo, and, for me, a few weeks short of fourteen years with the restaurant -- and the first time in my adult life that i'll have been unemployed. so, if any of y'all want to sample the eats for one last time, you'd better get your ass in the gear ("get your ass in *the* gear" is yet another of the pakistani-isations of english vernacular that i find so endearing)! KEN "I don't want an egg at this hour!" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #352 ********************************