From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #345 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, December 3 2004 Volume 13 : Number 345 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Kulturalmusikimperialismo ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #344 ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: The boy in the great curved bubble [James Dignan ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #344 [Tom Clark ] Re: Imperialisin' Bedroom [Miles Goosens ] Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Imperialisin' Bedroom [2fs ] Re: Aargh! Cancellation of Northgate Mall ["Eddie Tews" ] Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A [bisontentacle ] RE: Bristol ["Brian Nupp" ] Re: Aargh! Cancellation of Northgate Mall ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Top Ten Lists! Hurray! [The Great Quail ] Biting the bait and old bands that don't suck [The Great Quail Subject: RE: Kulturalmusikimperialismo > -----Original Message----- > From: Rex Broome [mailto:rexbroome@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:29 PM > To: The Great Quail > Cc: Fegmaniax! > Subject: Re: Kulturalmusikimperialismo > > > Quail: > > Anyway, I'm all for cross-pollination and interbreeding. > "Remain in Light" > > is one of my top ten albums of all time. > > Wow, there's some non-Robyn Quail-Rex crossover on a pretty major > issue-- a shared Top 10 All-Time Record. > > I always expect to get over that album and never do. The reissued > Name of This Band really brought it back to me. > Speaking of Top 10 Lists... yikes, it's December... That must mean that it's getting time for the Decemberlists! Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?UmU6IG5ldyBtb3N0LWhhdGVkIHRocmVhZCAtIFQgdnMgQQ==?= On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 gshell@americangroupisp.com wrote: > On Thu Dec 2 14:29 , Rex Broome sent: > > >I like boobs a lot. > > boobs are nice and all, but the ass is where it's really at. boob guys > all seem kinda shallow and most frequent nudie bars and escort services > (at least around these parts). most seem to be christian and they like Who you callin' shallow? :) Boobs rule. I've only been to a nudie bar once and an escort service never. > to buy tit jobs for their wives and girlfriends. that is fucking weird. Seriously though, "most boob guys are shallow Christians"? Surely not, said the half-Jewish agnostic. > i have met some beautiful boobs who had a really ugly girl. Never had the same experience with an ass? > and i hate tit jobs, they make me want to fucking puke. i'd rather they > be a bit lifeless and droopey than all out of context large, round and > hard I'm with you there. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:44:28 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:40:44 -0800 (PST), Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 gshell@americangroupisp.com wrote: > > i have met some beautiful boobs who had a really ugly girl. > > Never had the same experience with an ass? Somehow, some way, there's a way to comment on these lines that eventually leads to a pun on the title of Nick Cave's book _And the Ass Saw the Angel_. But damned if I can think of it. - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 17:07:41 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #344 Hmm, what? Nope, wasn't me. I did start that fascinating, non-posting-related Newsom thread, however. Oh, and you have just witnessed the world's first Top *and* Bottom Posting. On Dec 2, 2004, at 3:27 PM, fegmaniax-digest wrote: > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:36:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Jeff Dwarf > Subject: RE: There goes imperialisin' Simon > > Eb wrote: >> Still miffed because I used The Scott's name in vain, eh? > > Perhaps we can blame him for Laci Peterson's death.... > > BTW, that was Gene's (I think) question, not mine. Hmm, what? Nope, wasn't me. I did start that fascinating, non-posting-related Newsom thread, however. Oh, and you have just witnessed the world's first Top *and* Bottom Posting. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 17:07:55 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: I gave Magnum's crown to Newsom That's something I refer to as "Quail Bait." Guess he hasn't taken it yet. > From: "Stewart C. Russell" > >> It was nice to >> see what's left of Neutral Milk Hotel playing on deck of the HMS >> Surprise, however. That's something I refer to as "Quail Bait." Guess he hasn't taken it yet. > What? Hunh?! Eh? That's something I refer to as "Quail Bait." Guess he hasn't taken it yet. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:10:28 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: see in front Eb: > > now this I just don't understand. Top posting is ten times the >> scrolling hassle, because you have to scroll to the bottom for the >> first point, then scroll to the top for the reply to it, then back to >> the bottom for the next point, then back to the reply to the second >> point, then... >> >Can we go back to debating "udders" now? Thanks. Rex: >I like boobs a lot. Greg: >boobs are nice and all, but the ass is where it's really at. boob >guys all seem kinda shallow and most frequent nudie bars and escort >services (at >least around these parts). most seem to be christian and they like >to buy tit jobs for their wives and girlfriends. that is fucking >weird. think how >many times you could go to amsterdam for the price of a boob job? a >nice ass often assures a number of other nice things. those being >legs, >hips, belly, waist, back and even shoulders, but not feet. a nice >ass does not guarantee nice feet, but a nice set of knockers >guarantees >nothing. a nice ass can make up for things that a nice set of boobs >could never dream of. i have met some beautiful boobs who had a >really >ugly girl. > >and i hate tit jobs, they make me want to fucking puke. i'd rather >they be a bit lifeless and droopey than all out of context large, >round and >hard. a nice ass is really much more important than a nice set of >knockers in all regards. erm... can we go back to discussing top-posting now? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:11:47 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: The boy in the great curved bubble >And while I like _Graceland,_ I do think that it's fair to >say that the African influences on it are more ornamental >and less fundamental than on _Remain in Light_ (or >whatever), which offended the sensibilities of the "WM" >evangelists. Which along with Simon recording in South >Africa and coming off a couple (relatively) poor selling >albums.... I think seriously that a lot of it was simply Simon's choice of country. South Africa was an international leper at the time, remember. >Classical music came under the same barrage of (in my view, generally >moronic) criticism about cultural imperialism even before rock music. In >fact, it had some effects on rock, too. For instance, the music of Philip >Glass was profoundly influenced by raga and gamelan, and the music of Steve >Reich by African drumming. I believe that Brian Eno and David Byrne were >well aware of these trends as well, and there's little doubt that some prog >groups sitting in the back of the bus absorbed some of these influences from >the classical dweebs in the front. I suspect that the first to get comments about it was probably Debussy and his gamelan influences. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:15:22 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A On Dec 2, 2004, at 1:10 PM, gshell@americangroupisp.com wrote: > boobs are nice and all, but the ass is where it's really at. boob guys > all seem kinda shallow and most frequent nudie bars and escort > services (at > least around these parts). most seem to be christian and they like to > buy tit jobs for their wives and girlfriends. that is fucking weird. > think how > many times you could go to amsterdam for the price of a boob job? a > nice ass often assures a number of other nice things. those being > legs, > hips, belly, waist, back and even shoulders, but not feet. a nice ass > does not guarantee nice feet, but a nice set of knockers guarantees > nothing. a nice ass can make up for things that a nice set of boobs > could never dream of. i have met some beautiful boobs who had a really > ugly girl. > This is from the Bible, right? Genesis? Leviticus? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:16:49 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #344 On Dec 2, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > > Oh, and you have just witnessed the world's first Top *and* Bottom > Posting. > > Read a little further down in the Digest... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 17:30:25 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Imperialisin' Bedroom On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:23:14 -0800, Rex Broome wrote: > BTW, my "cultural imperialism" comment was the most throw-away-est of > throw-away jokes... Like this use of "traction"? >I'm really surprised at the traction it's > achieved. I attended a business meeting in 2003 where a manager (a very capable, successful one, mind you) used the word "traction" no less than 15 times in 40 minutes. It was like that day in 2001 when Bush announced the "road map" for the Middle East. By that afternoon, every company in the United States was utterly devoid of plans -- they'd all been transformed into "road maps." Language *is* a virus! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:30:35 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Tom Clark wrote: > On Dec 2, 2004, at 1:10 PM, gshell@americangroupisp.com wrote: > > > boobs are nice and all, but the ass is where it's really at. boob guys [snip] > This is from the Bible, right? Genesis? Leviticus? Song of Solomon 4:5, 7:3, 8:10 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:26:53 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Imperialisin' Bedroom On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 17:30:25 -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: > I attended a business meeting in 2003 where a manager (a very capable, > successful one, mind you) used the word "traction" no less than 15 > times in 40 minutes. It was like that day in 2001 when Bush announced > the "road map" for the Middle East. By that afternoon, every company > in the United States was utterly devoid of plans -- they'd all been > transformed into "road maps." Language *is* a virus! Not to mention Bush's typically idiotic, mistaken usage of and obsession with the phrase "political capital," which he persists in imagining he has and must spend...except ya don't spend capital, per se: you invest it, or build on it, or (heh-heh) grow it. Oh wait: I did mention it, just now. - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:43:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Eddie Tews" Subject: Re: Aargh! Cancellation of Northgate Mall on september 11th, a local news anchor was going through the list of the evening's closures and postponements and whatnot, and at one point said, "northgate mall is cancelled." i think about that more frequently than is probably healthy, but this is the first time i've ever told anybody (of course, one presumes other people noticed the gaffe as well...). apparently, northgate was the nation's first shopping mall, by the way. why would it be dpressing to hear the good stuff? i think i've mentioned before now my utmost admiration for greg's proverb, "the only thing we could ever be destined to do is die." we can adapt this proverb to the rock and/or roll idiom easily enough: "the only thing a rock and/or roll act could ever be destined to do is suck." yeah, some acts hang it up before they start to suck, but that doesn't mean they were not destined to do. and r.e.m. gave us more great music that most rock acts. the only reason we would have to be depressed about r.e.m.'s passing (and, frankly, i think they've about one good album's worth of material since *Document*) is if we were only allowed to listen to their most recent album. robyn hitchcock has clearly passed into suckdom, i presume never to return. and listening to his suck new material makes me even *more* eager to go back and listen to the non-suck old material. your mileage may vary. but i think you're just setting yourself up for disappointment after disappointment if you expect *any* rock and/or roll band -- even r.e.m. -- to record more than a handful of truly momentous albums. (same thing goes for filmmakers, really. i mean, you look at the level the coens were operating on even through *O Brother* -- a period of fifteen years, mind you -- and then look at how fast they've dropped into the most horrid suck-ness imaginable. i would be very surprised if they ever made even one more great movie. altman and kurosawa are exceptions. any others?) he does it yet again! greg, where do you come up with your one-liners, man? it's quite a wellspring, i daresay. the question mark is icing on the cake, too! KEN "Murdered on his way to preach the gospel" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 03:19:55 -0500 From: "Lauren" Subject: Split Cows (was Re: Quick endorsement) on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:41 PM "2fs" wrote: > I think that depends. Had Mr. Hirst been a Victorian woman stirring up > controversy by displaying a hint of ankle, well, no. But I'm pretty > sure that half-cows will almost always be controversial. Or not: ..Well, only when you encase them in plexiglass. In the market, half-cows seem to go pretty much unnoticed. My point was more to wonder how Mr. Hirst himself will wear the label. He was cutting up cows ten years ago; last time I saw, he was painting pretty brightly-coloured dots. Perhaps it's just a matter of time - Magritte's 'Joy of Life' is kept right up the street and it doesn't seem to screw with Magritte's reputation as it once did. I likely shouldn't admit to it, but Hirst is one of my favourite visual artists. I'm a bit fascinated with death and decay. xo Lauren ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:35:11 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Bristol Jeff: >Did somebody say Robyn actually *is* playing with a band? He certainly did last night. I wont claim to have remembered the set list. He kicked off solo with a dylan cover (I'm not good on the title of these) then was joined by Morris on marraccas for Television and Chinese Bones, then Terry Edwards came onstage to play keys on Full Moon in My Soul and Queen Elvis. I don't know what guitar he was playing but from the back it looked rather nasty and didn't sound as good as the Fylde. Kim and Paul Noble were called up, the telecaster was on and we got a solid blast of 3 soft boys songs Do the Chisel, Kingdom of Love and Pig Worker. The rest of the set was a mix of oldies I never thought he'd play again, some staples from the soft boys tour, some covers, and a couple of recent songs. They all seemed to be having fun "playing a bunch of good time tunes" as he put it. I think it's just the band logistics and management that he dislikes, the getting a bunch of mates together and cranking up the guitars seems to agree with him. An audience member called out "when's your next live album coming out" to which he replied "Oh, you can get them all on the internet... in fact we've already heard tomorrow's show, we know the setlist and what mistakes we'll make". Other songs played included... Where are the Prawns, Listening to the Higsons, Leppo and the Jooves, Dead Wife, Brenda's Iron Sledge (incorporating Funky Town), Night Ride to Trinidad, The Underneath (with added cornet), Jewels for Sophia, Swirling, Staying Alive, Savoy Truffle, Up on Cripple Creek, City of Women ( first time I've heard this, and by golly it's good). Brian, np Kim Rew, Essex Hideaway. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:55:00 -0500 From: bisontentacle Subject: Re: new most-hated thread - T vs A one time at band camp, Benjamin Lukoff (blukoff@alvord.com) said: >On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Tom Clark wrote: >> On Dec 2, 2004, at 1:10 PM, gshell@americangroupisp.com wrote: >> >> > boobs are nice and all, but the ass is where it's really at. boob guys >> This is from the Bible, right? Genesis? Leviticus? >Song of Solomon 4:5, 7:3, 8:10 and esther 36:32:36 - -- END LEFT LANE PROHIBITION ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:09:15 -0500 From: "Brian Nupp" Subject: RE: Bristol >He certainly did last night. I wont claim to have remembered the set >list. >Kim and Paul Noble were called up, the telecaster was on and we got a >solid >blast of 3 soft boys songs Do the Chisel, Kingdom of Love and Pig >Worker. >Other songs played included... > >Where are the Prawns, Listening to the Higsons, Leppo and the Jooves, >Dead Wife, Brenda's Iron Sledge (incorporating Funky Town), Night >Ride to >Trinidad, >The Underneath (with added cornet), Jewels for Sophia, Swirling, >Staying Alive, Savoy Truffle, Up on Cripple Creek, >City of Women ( first time I've heard this, and by golly it's good). For the love of god, I hope someone recorded this! Nightride to Trinidad? Has this ever been done live? With a band? Do the Chisel! Wow, sounds like a great show. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:36:29 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Aargh! Cancellation of Northgate Mall Eddie Tews wrote: > > robyn hitchcock has clearly passed into suckdom, i presume never to > return. chacun a son debilitating joint inflammation, Eddie. Me, I like Robyn's current folkish sound. While I still enjoy the Egyptians records more than I should, I do have to listen to them with a '*so* last century' filter on. On the whole, I see Robyn as a solitary beast. The fact that he can still occasionally 'rawk out' with a band seems to me more of an occasional gem than a solid M.O. for a musical career. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 12:34:17 -0500 From: bisontentacle Subject: the sadies on robyn [...] Notable among Favourite Colours tracks is the closer "Why Would Anybody Live Here?" co-written and sung by Robyn Hitchcock. Despite Hitchcock's Tucson and Wavelab connections, the Sadies actually met him in Calgary. Good describes the scene: "We were performing at a festival, and Robyn was on the bill. We proposed doing some Syd Barrett songs with him, things like "Astronomy Domine," and he seemed a bit reluctant, but we went ahead with it and wound up playing all this Byrds and Dylan stuff as well. It was so fun and effortless, and we went on to do a show in Winnipeg and a couple others afterwards. There was some discussion of touring together, but we've learned over the years that with a collaboration like that, it's all just talk until it happens." For the record, Good is certain "Why Would Anybody Live Here?" is about neither Toronto nor Tucson. [...] - -- END LEFT LANE PROHIBITION ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:37:45 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Top Ten Lists! Hurray! Rex: > Speaking of Top 10 Lists... yikes, it's December... No surprises in mine, at least.... 1. "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb," U2 2. "Medulla," Bjork 3. "Abattoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus," Nick Cave 4. "Real Gone," Tom Waits 5. "The Delivery Man," Elvis Costello 6."You Are The Quarry," Morrissey 7. "A Ghost is Born," Wilco 8. "The Cure," The Cure 9. "Spooked," Robyn Hitchcock 10. "Van Lear Rose," Loretta Lynn & Jack White And more, because it's been such a good year: 11. "Good News for People Who Love Bad News," Modest Mouse 12. "Sonic Nurse," Sonic Youth 13. "Encore," Eminem 14. "Now Here Is Nowhere," Secret Machines 15. "Katamari Damacy" soundtrack And HM: "Livebox," (Live) Bjork "The Name of This Band Is the Talking Heads," (Live) Talking Heads "Feedback," (EP) Rush "Burnin'," (Remaster) Bob Marley "Downward Spiral," (Remaster) NIN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:32:56 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Biting the bait and old bands that don't suck Eddie: > your mileage may vary. but i think you're just setting yourself up for > disappointment after disappointment if you expect *any* rock and/or roll > band -- even r.e.m. -- to record more than a handful of truly momentous > albums. I am not going to argue with the "truly momentous" part -- it's hard to squeeze masterpieces out every few years -- but there is one group that stands out to me as being pretty damn close. Now, I know a lot of you are all too hip to see the wisdom and truth of my testimonial, but U2 have been around for 25 years now, and decidedly do not suck. In fact, they've made consistently excellent albums, and have shown themselves unafraid to experiment a little along the way. Any other groups that have been around for more than 20 years and are still worth listening to? (I mean, because they are still making music that's interesting and even fresh, as opposed to simply not sucking.) Although I think U2 is the best example, I would personally nominate Sonic Youth, King Crimson, and Rush.... Makes me wonder where Wilco and Radiohead will be in ten years.... Jeff: >> --Quail, in full on pompous mode, who only wishes he could middle-post.... > > Was it the bullfighting accident? Look, how was I supposed to know you fought the *bull?* I had always assumed you and the bull took on those stupid nancy-boys with the sequins and pointy sticks. >>> It was nice to >>> see what's left of Neutral Milk Hotel playing on deck of the HMS >>> Surprise, however. > > That's something I refer to as "Quail Bait." Guess he hasn't taken it > yet. I saw it dangling there, but I assumed I was hallucinating again.... But now that it's out, "What?!" - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:31:49 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: old bands that I'll concede at least don't suck as bad as REM Quail: > I am not going to argue with the "truly momentous" part -- it's hard to > squeeze masterpieces out every few years -- but there is one group that > stands out to me as being pretty damn close. Now, I know a lot of you are > all too hip to see the wisdom and truth of my testimonial, but U2 have been > around for 25 years now, and decidedly do not suck. Hey, just because arena rock isn't my cuppa and U2's schtick grew tiresome to me a decade and a half ago doesn't mean I view myself as "hip"! >In fact, they've made > consistently excellent albums, and have shown themselves unafraid to > experiment a little along the way. Rattle and Hum sucks. Empirically. Hold your Suckometer up to it and see what kind of reading you get. But yo, has any band ever of any kind retained its original lineup that long, whether or not suckdom ensued? I mean, that's a helluva thing. > > Any other groups that have been around for more than 20 years and are still > worth listening to? (I mean, because they are still making music that's > interesting and even fresh, as opposed to simply not sucking.) Although I > think U2 is the best example, I would personally nominate Sonic Youth, King > Crimson, and Rush.... Sonic Youth fits the bill for me. And they had the same, albeit not quite orginal, lineup for many years (and adding a fifth member is hardly changes things) whereas Crimson is hardly the same band by any standard, right? I guess in retrospect SY basically are contemporaries of U2; the couple of years between the emergence of the two bands felt like an eternity at the time, at least to me... of course I was growing up at the time and stuff like SY seemed like a quantum leap, something sophisticated to immerse myself in after working through the juvenilia of U2. Who have a horrible horrible name as a band and stupid names as individuals, and I will never stop reminding people who have just grown to used to them to remember it... if a band showed up today featuring members named stuff like "Maestro" or "The Razor", they would be laughed at by all but the kids as young as we were when we found "Bono" and "The Edge" to sound kind of cool. (Okay, I never thought those names were cool, and even when I was briefly "really into" U2 I was embarassed to like a band with members named that, but you get the idea.) > Makes me wonder where Wilco and Radiohead will be in ten years.... I like Wilco a good deal, but this whole discourse embodies the Riddle of the Quail: just how can a man whose tastes and interests otherwise run so deeply to the esoteric consistently champion bands that bore me to tears? - -Rex, alarmed to have just really enjoyed a Kings of Leon song after having thoought it might be a new Negro Problem single... obviously I've been grossly misinformed about Kings of Leon! - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:36:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Eddie Tews" Subject: Conversations with the Chef (An Ongoing Series) CHEF: [After I had put an order for four chickens curry into an -- in his opinion -- undersized pan.] You would've used some common sense. If you put this much curry in your ass, what's gonna happen? It's gonna blow. ME: [Laughing.] and here's an earlier one that i had neglected to report. BRETT: You want the truth? "You can't handle the truth!" CHEF: That's not the truth, you god damn bitch. ME: [Laughing.] [If I recall, the argument centred on whether Ahman Green fumbles too often.] ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #345 ********************************