From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #340 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, November 29 2004 Volume 13 : Number 340 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the moon And the sun And the stars [2fs ] Re: the moon And the sun And the stars [Chris Franz ] Re: the moon And the sun And the stars [Aaron Mandel ] robyn playing Cambridge ["Pete Hitcham" ] Robyn in Cambridge, 18th December ["Charlotte Tupman" ] Re: Quick endorsement [Rex Broome ] Give 'Em Enough Reap [Eb ] Re: Quick endorsement [2fs ] Re: Quick endorsement [Rex Broome ] Aargh! Cancellation of Glastonbury show. ["Charlotte Tupman" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:35:09 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: the moon And the sun And the stars On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:58:17 -0500 (EST), Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, A Wonderful Human Person wrote: > > > hmm...this begs a question. what's the longest syllable in the english > > language? > > Probably "strength". I believe it's at least the longest common > one-syllable word. Then there are "latchstring" and "catchphrase" - which share the distinction of most consecutive consonants. - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:26:35 -0800 From: Chris Franz Subject: Re: the moon And the sun And the stars Aaron Mandel wrote > >On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, A Wonderful Human Person wrote: > >> hmm...this begs a question. what's the longest syllable in the english >> language? > >Probably "strength". I believe it's at least the longest common >one-syllable word I've been told "screeched" wins the title, tied with scratched and maybe a few others. But I'd argue that squirreled is a perfectly valid one-syllable word. Where I'm from, anyway. - - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:52:14 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: the moon And the sun And the stars On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Chris Franz wrote: > I've been told "screeched" wins the title, tied with scratched and maybe > a few others. But I'd argue that squirreled is a perfectly valid > one-syllable word. Where I'm from, anyway. You're totally right. Maybe I was thinking of "longest word with only one vowel"? a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:00:52 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: the moon And the sun And the stars On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, A Wonderful Human Person wrote: > hmm...this begs a question. what's the longest syllable in the english > language? Do you mean what's the longest combination of letters that can be pronounced as a single syllable? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:04:07 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: the moon And the sun And the stars On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Chris Franz wrote: > > > I've been told "screeched" wins the title, tied with scratched and maybe > > a few others. But I'd argue that squirreled is a perfectly valid > > one-syllable word. Where I'm from, anyway. > > You're totally right. Maybe I was thinking of "longest word with only one > vowel"? are diphthongs allowed? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:14:10 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Song lyllables. >On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, A Wonderful Human Person wrote: > > > hmm...this begs a question. what's the longest syllable in the english > > language? > >Probably "strength". I believe it's at least the longest common >one-syllable word. its plural "strengths" is actually slightly longer :) James (who achieved mild fame today, being mentioned on the front page of the local newspaper as one of the judges for a competition to come up with a new flag for Otago Province). - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:40:29 +0000 From: "Pete Hitcham" Subject: robyn playing Cambridge Hello all, Just to let you know that RH is playing Cambridge on 18th December at the APU. currently listening to Gary Numan - Pure see ya taters Pete ********************************************************************************************** If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient(s), please be advised that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. Johnson Matthey PLC has its main place of business at 2-4 Cockspur Street, London (020 7269 8400). 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Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:06:29 -0500 From: bisontentacle Subject: [bot-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: Robyn Hitchcock Buffalo, NY 1990-10-14 aud master (flac) - ----- Forwarded message from EZT ----- A new torrent has been uploaded to EZT. Title: Robyn Hitchcock Buffalo, NY 1990-10-14 aud master (flac) Size: 424.87 MB Category: Singer/Songwriter Uploaded by: carville Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Marc I have 3 of his older masters to share. First up is this nice recording of a classic solo show. C Robyn Hitchcock Sun., 14 Oct. 1990 Nietzsche's Buffalo, New York audience master(rec'd by Marc in Forestville) sony cassette recorder wm-d3 mic-sony ecm-909 transferred to harman kardon cdr 26 cdr>eac>flac Oceanside Queen of Eyes Clean Steve Glass Hotel I Watch the Cars Queen Elvis So You Think You're in Love The Veins of the Queen Madonna of the Wasps The Devil's Coachman I Often Dream of Trains Flesh Number One (Beatle Dennis) My Wife and My Dead Wife Beautiful Girl I Got a Message For You Raymond Chandler Evening Tonight - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login). http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=16046&hit=1 Take care! easytree.org - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:06:48 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Random query Eb wrote: > Is anyone here into a mid-'70s Gene Clark album called "No Other"? Your > thoughts? I was just reading some online material which made it sound > like some major forgotten masterpiece. My interest is piqued. I like it a good deal, which may well mean you won't! "Major forgotten masterpiece" may be overstating it... some folks think it's overblown and ridiculous... but it's unique in Clark's catalog. For recently reissued "forgotten" Clark records, I think I give the edge to "White Light", but "No Other" may be the more Eb-friendly of the two. - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:11:17 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick endorsement Eb wrote: > I know I'm coming to this one belatedly, but I think the Thrills/So Much > for the City ...which I find dull and sort of culturally imperialistic (Thrills: Southern California --> Paul Simon --> South Africa only with less interesting result cuz yo, I done heard more Buffalo Springfield than King Sunny Ade)... > is the best debut I've heard since Rufus Wainwright's. ...which I can't imagine listening to without longing for the sweet release of death. Hmmm... I know Eb and I have different tastes, but in this case he's praising one record which I find find extremely prosaic, dull, and painfully average, and another whose chief transression is being strident and melodramatic... wallpaper vs. chalkboard fingernails. Innaresting. - -Rex, cranky (moreso than usual even) - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:03:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Give 'Em Enough Reap Gene Greif, whose witty collage and montage album-cover illustrations for CBS Records helped popularize the retro style of graphic design in the 1980's, died on Saturday in Manhattan. He was 50. The cause was complications from hepatitis C, which he contracted from a blood transfusion after a 1977 car accident, said James Biber, a friend. While on staff as an artist and designer from 1977 to 1980 at CBS Records, then known as an industry leader for innovative album art, Mr. Greif specialized in pop music and designed scores of album covers, including some for Phoebe Snow and the B-52's. But it was his cover for the Clash's album "Give 'Em Enough Rope," with its stark flat colors, messy faux-Japanese lettering and eerie image of a slain cowboy being eaten by buzzards while an enigmatic figure on a horse nonchalantly observes the feast, that influenced other punk album graphics. It helped introduce a postmodern graphic style noted for the reprise of passi images and found art. Mr. Greif also designed a special Bloomingdale's shopping bag that combined elements of Cubism and Dada into a composition that is now in museum collections. "Gene reinvigorated contemporary collage-based illustration in the late 70's to the present by combining visual and typographic puns with Surrealist and Constructivist influences," said the graphic designer Carin Goldberg, with whom he collaborated on book covers and jackets. Mr. Greif's recognizable style as an illustrator was also partly a result of his keen expertise with the airbrush, which allowed him to wed disparate images and objects seamlessly into a unified image. In addition to working on records, books and bags, in 1980 Mr. Greif was a staff designer at Rolling Stone magazine and an art director at Vogue and Working Woman magazines. Gene Howard Greif was born on Sept. 11, 1954, in Queens. He attended what is now the LaGuardia High School of Music and Art and Performing Arts in Manhattan, and graduated from the Cooper Union School of Art in 1976. He is survived by his partner, Gary Cruz of Manhattan; a brother, Barry, of Riverdale, the Bronx; and a sister, Brenda Appel of Manalapan, N.J. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:04:19 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Quick endorsement On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:11:17 -0800, Rex Broome wrote: > Eb wrote: > > I know I'm coming to this one belatedly, but I think the Thrills/So Much > > for the City > > ...which I find dull and sort of culturally imperialistic (Thrills: > Southern California --> Paul Simon --> South Africa only with less > interesting result cuz yo, I done heard more Buffalo Springfield than > King Sunny Ade)... Okay, I'm not weighing in on any of these acts (cuz I haven't heard the Thrills, for one) but...I just don't buy the (usual - not nec'ly Rex's) charges of "cultural imperialism" for the Paul Simon thing. (The Thrills are another story, of course, freighted as their style is with the ongoing heavy hand of brutal Irish hegemony over the oppressed masses of SoCal.) Simon openly acknowledged his debts to the styles he was working in, hired many of the musicians who worked in the styles, and paid them (if I recall) double US union scale. This is entirely different from, say, Led Zeppelin covering old blues songs and pretending they were Page/Plant originals. Yeah, I know: there was a "cultural boycott" against South Africa at the time...but working with *black* South African musicians not only doesn't violate the spirit of the boycott (whose intent was to throttle the racist white govt) but in fact furthers it...by saying to the apartheid government, we're no respecters of any color line: if the musicians we like are black, or white, or anything else, that's who we'll work with thank you very much. In fact, the only framework I can see under which Simon's work was "cultural imperialism" is the one that imagines that no matter what, when white people work with black people, the black people get the short end; and that we should all line up within our colors, and if we're a Jewish guy from NYC we should sing "Hava Nagila" and be done with it...none of this thinking that any music that speaks to us belongs to all of us; no, that there's *their* music, and should remain theirs and theirs alone (incidentally, making it easier to ignore). I mean, I'm sure the musicians whose work was finally paid attention to by Americans would gladly have remained unknown and unheard (in the US), right? To me the key thing about using music that isn't native to your own background (and in this world, what the hell is that anymore? If I were a musician, I'm supposed to only play polkas, cow-based country music, Lutheran hymns, and the occasional West Allis metal band, because I'm from Wisconsin?) is that credit be given where it's due. Oh (and this is, of course, a judgment area): also that it not suck - but sucking is culturally universal; no one culture's got a monopoly on it. 'Sides which, strip the arrangements from the songs on _Graceland_, and they're quite obviously Paul Simon songs - lyrically, melodically, etc. > -Rex, cranky (moreso than usual even) Who you callin' cranky, white boy? - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:31:57 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick endorsement 2fs wrote: > Okay, I'm not weighing in on any of these acts (cuz I haven't heard > the Thrills, for one) but...I just don't buy the (usual - not nec'ly > Rex's) charges of "cultural imperialism" for the Paul Simon thing. Forgot to mention that despite acknowledged crankiness tongue was firmly in cheek re: Mr. Simon and his exotica period (which still remains pretty listenable to me). > (The Thrills are another story, of course, freighted as their style is > with the ongoing heavy hand of brutal Irish hegemony over the > oppressed masses of SoCal.) Which is the real reason why I ain't buyin' that new U2 album. How long must they sing our song? - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:37:52 +0000 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: Aargh! Cancellation of Glastonbury show. Just received the following email: Dear Charlotte It is with great disappointment we have to inform you that Robyn Hitchcocks show at Glastonbury Town Hall has been cancelled. We will be issuing refunds for the face value of tickets you have purchased. The refunds will be issued by cheque and posted this week. We hope you will catch one of Robyns other shows at Leicester, Bristol, Brighton, London or Norwich. Please accept our sincere apologies. Best wishes Michelle Hilborne What a disappointment, especially as I can't make the just-announced Cambridge show. I know lots of UK fegs were planning to go to the Glastonbury show. :-( Charlotte _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:41:52 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: REAP John Barrymore Jr., son of J.B. Sr. and father of Drew. Max ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #340 ********************************