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fegmaniax-digest      Saturday, November 20 2004      Volume 13 : Number 332



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: This week in squid ...                    [2fs <jeffreyw2fs@gmail.com>]
  Re: Help for a U2 fan!             [Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>]
  Re: Gloster And The Experts  ["A Wonderful Human Person" <tews@drizzle.com]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #331    [Michael R Godwin <M.R.Godwin@bath.ac.uk>]
  Re: Miles Mexican God                        ["C. Huff" <huff71@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Spooked vinyl            ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." <gene@hopstetter.com>]
  Bruce Hornsby and the Quail                   [Jill Brand <jlbrand@bu.edu>]
  Re: Spooked vinyl                    ["Brian" <nightshadecat@mailbolt.com>]
  First Gig                                [John Irvine <jeirvine@gmail.com>]
  Re: first Robyn gig bandwagon      [Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>]
  Re: first Robyn gig bandwagon      [Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>]
  Re: First Gig                                    [Bret <bretley@gmail.com>]
  Re: Miles Mexican God              [Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>]

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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:37:36 -0600
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: This week in squid ...

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:19:01 +1300, James Dignan
<grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
> >James:
> >>  meanwhile, may I paint you at this...
> >
> >James, if anyone can paint us at anything... it'd be you.
> 
> paint, point, shmoint. Where are my acrylics...?

You can use control-i in many applications to get them.

- -- 
++Jeff++
The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com/

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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:50:25 -0600
From: Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Help for a U2 fan!

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:00:45 -0500, The Great Quail <quail@libyrinth.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get myself one of those "leaked" copies of U2's
> "Dismantle" on MP3? I will of course buy the actual CD when it comes out,
> but I am dying to hear it....

It wouldn't be on MP3, but tonight while I was watching VH-1 Classic,
they ran a spot for the new U2 album and said that you could listen to
the new album at vh1.com - so that might be an interim fix.

later,

Miles

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:19:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "A Wonderful Human Person" <tews@drizzle.com>
Subject: Re: Gloster And The Experts

<If Robyn tour stops in cities this coming Spring that he missed on this
tour, hopefully Detroit will be included and we can request both of them
then!>

you know, i've been thinking it would be cool to hear him cover "Wall Of
Death".  could somebody request it during the upcoming UK tour?


<Would the Chicago show at The Metro and the Seattle show also be included
in the best category?>

here's what i wrote at the time
(<URL:http://fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/2001/v10.n125>):

best -- los angeles (the both of them)
second tier -- boston, hoboken, minneapolis, seattle
third tier -- detroit, philadelphia, portland, toronto
fourth tier -- baltimore, d.c., vancouver
bottom tier -- chicago, new york, san francisco

so i guess hoboken would have been one of the two or five best shows,
rather that two or three.  i didn't much care for the ROCK ARMADA stop at
the metro, either.  i think it's too hot in there (or some shit).

there was no barfing; but bayard, carissa, and myself had the devil's time
finding hoboken from chez quail.  there are many things you *do* want
bayard doing for you, but navigating isn't one of them!  (of course, that
doesn't even compare to the wild goose chase daniel had us running at 3:00
in the a.m. in fucking 90-degrees-below-shit-assed-cold ontario.)


<Re: first Robyn gig bandwagon
Two distinct memories of the show:>

i distinctly recall the instrument-swapping, that robyn included cher in
one of his stories, that they were selling "Man With The Lightbulb Head"
t-shirts (but that i stupidly failed to purchase one), and that camper van
beethoven (for whom the egyptians were opening, -- bumbershoot '88 -- devo
having cancelled) blew the egyptians' doors off (sure wish i had tapes of
both of those sets!).


<Town Pump. '86 I think - I was still in college. Sometime in the Spring.
Two shows over two nights>

looks like
03/23/86   RHE   The Town Pump, Vancouver
03/24/86   RHE   The Town Pump, Vancouver

one of only two venues played twice on that tour.


<and almost entirely different sets each night.>

interesting.  that was not common for the egyptians.


<<Anyfeg know if there will be torrents of the NY/NJ/PA shows posted?>>
<i know.
p.s. yes.>

how about the minneapolis shows, exalted one?


<Not the night I saw it, mate.  But whatever...seems I got pretty flamed
for dissing the gospel hahaha serves me right.>

it wasn't a flame.  we, uh...we just disagree.  that's all.  i make it a
point to only ever flame eb.

i remember matthew was chatting with us after the largo show, and at one
point i was moved to exclaim, "morris was the motherfucking MVP of this
tour, daddy!"  but i stopped myself at the last possible moment, realising
that it might hurt matthew's feelings.  but then (would you believe it?),
a few minutes later matthew said something to the effect that morris was
the heart and soul of the soft boys.


<I might be remembering wrong, but he also missed the tour closing Largo
show. It seemed like we tried and tried to talk him into it, but he had to
be back for work.>

dude, i helped greg and yourself head up the line.  you *did* try and try
(and eventually succeed) to prevent me from speaking with james r. bone --
with whom i had traded, but never met in person.  i kinda regret having
missed my chance, now that it's all said and done.

you may be remembering that the ROCK ARMADA show at the mint was announced
at the last minute, but that we *all* had to get back to work (chris f.,
jeme, vivien, myself); so i gave you my recorder to tape the show at the
mint (plus the departure lounge show at the largo) with.


<"The Speed of Things," for me, is right up there with "Mexican God" as my
pick for Best Post-Egyptians Robyn Song.>

in no particular order: "You And Oblivion", "Strings", "Elizabeth Jade",
"I Am Not Me", "Idonia" (even though i don't really care to ever again
hear any other song from *Suxor*), "Adoration Of The City".


KEN "Attention buttfuckers: Oil-based lubes dissolve latex condoms and are
NOT to be used for penis-in-butt style buttfucking" THE KENSTER

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:45:31 +0000 (GMT)
From: Michael R Godwin <M.R.Godwin@bath.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #331

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, fegmaniax-digest wrote:
Dolph quoth:
> >>Right. And I'm learning bouzouki, which can be tuned an
> >>octave below.	(My
> >>fingers are a bit too bass-player-ish and plank-like
> >>for me to be a successful mandolin player; the scale on
> >>the bouzouki is much more forgiving.)

Rex responded:
> That's functionally the same thing as a mandola, right?

The only band I remember seeing with a mandola were Fairground Attraction
at Colston Hall in the late 80s / early 90s, and they essentially used it
in the sort of cello register to fill out the low end. However, this site:
<http://www.juststrings.com/mandola.html> states that it is the Alto of
the mandolin family. My instinct is that the bouzouki has a higher range -
tenor or even higher. The mandola certainly had a deeper, bigger body.

- - Mike Godwin

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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:24:30 -0800 (PST)
From: "C. Huff" <huff71@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Miles Mexican God

Hey Miles, 

At least we can agree on something.  Mexican God is a
fine piece of flesh.  I am giving Speed of Things a
play tonight in your honour.  

How'd that Luna show go?  

C. Huff 

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:28:42 -0600
From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." <gene@hopstetter.com>
Subject: Re: Spooked vinyl

> From: "Brian" <nightshadecat@mailbolt.com>
> Subject: Spooked vinyl
>
> Let me say...Spooked makes much better sense on vinyl. Song order, 
> feel,
> and of course packaging. Anyone else with me on this one?
>
> I'll have to take a closer listen to see if the mixes are the same.
>
> Thank you Robyn, for putting this out on 180 gram THICK vinyl. I swear
> this sounds better than the cd!

Interesting. My Spooked vinyl sounds so bad I couldn't make it to the 
second side.  Upon first play it was scratchy, noisy, and very, very 
veiled.

I played the vinyl on two systems -- mine, and a higher-end system with 
a tweaked Rega 2 with custom tube amps and speakers. It sounded awful 
on both systems.

So, I haven't listened to it in full yet. Guess I'll buy the CD 
sometime.

I emailed the big cheese at Yep Roc and told him about this, and he 
graciously thanked me for my comments, but was disappointed to hear the 
negative feedback. He also mentioned that the folks who mastered the 
record were involved in the recording, which leads me to blame the 
pressing plant.

Anyway, do you have your copy handy?  Please send the stamper info in 
the dead wax -- I'd like to compare it to mine.

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:54:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Jill Brand <jlbrand@bu.edu>
Subject: Bruce Hornsby and the Quail

During my first root canal experience (a two-day affair) some 13 years
ago, I heard That's Just the Way It Is during both miserable sessions.  I
didn't know the song and I didn't know who did it, but everytime it came
on somewhere (a store, an elevator), I would comment to myself or others,
"That's my root canal music."  I didn't know who did it until just this
year.

As for Quail's request, dear boy, what about your sense of delayed
gratification?  It will be so much more enjoyable if you wait till the
release of the album!  Wait, I'm talking to the wrong gender here.

Jill

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:19:37 -0500
From: "Brian" <nightshadecat@mailbolt.com>
Subject: Re: Spooked vinyl

Gene:
> Interesting. My Spooked vinyl sounds so bad I couldn't make it to the 
> second side.  Upon first play it was scratchy, noisy, and very, very 
> veiled.

Maybe side 2 is better and just the 1st side is flawed? But I'm assuming
you eventually tried side 2.

I'll check for those #s on the dead wax.

- -Nuppy
- -- 
  Brian
  nightshadecat@mailbolt.com

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:39:11 -0500
From: John Irvine <jeirvine@gmail.com>
Subject: First Gig

Sat., 15 Nov. 1986, Haverford College. His guitar or amp wasn't
working at first and he went into a long riff on giving it to the
audience - my first Robyn monologue experience and it was most
definitely memorable.

If I remember correctly, They Might Be Giants opened, and had to play
a song twice for an encore because they ran out of material (!)

- -John I

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:08:04 -0600
From: Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: first Robyn gig bandwagon

First Robyn gig was May 1990 at the Bluebird Cafe here in Nashville,
accompanied by a grad school friend and Melissa.  Someday I will find
my setlist, which is scattered across 3-4 small pieces of small
notepad paper.  Robyn solo, acoustic guitar and piano.  Wunnerful,
very like the SUNY 1990 gig that makes the rounds ever so often.  The
Bluebird actually had him in for two sets that night, and we had
reservations only for the first show, so I have no idea what
transpired at the second.  We walked to and from the show from our new
digs in a Green Hills duplex, and we got soaked on the way back since
a thunderstorm rolled into town during the first show.

First Robyn gig I was *supposed* to see was the Egyptians in
Charlottesivlle, VA, in March 1988.  Melissa, my cousin Rusty, and I
made the three-hour drive from Athens, WV,  to Charlottesville, and I
picked up my first speeding ticket just after we transitioned from
I-81 to I-64, for going 65 in a 55 zone.  This was during the time
that the Reagan-era Congress had authorized states to raise the speed
limit if they so chose.  West Virginia had zoomed up to 65, but
Virginia kept it at 55, I'm sure not out of a concern for public
safety but to maintain the state's well-earned reputation as one giant
speed trap.

When we got to Charlottesville, we had no idea where to head, and had
to stop at a tourism office to directions to the club.  We finally got
there around 8 PM, only to find the club empty and a small notice (on
orange posterboard, if I recall) posted on the door about the show
being cancelled due to Robyn's illness.  We turned right around and
drove the three hours back to Athens, WV, all for nothing.  None of us
even thought to call the club in advance, plus in those
pre-popular-Internet days, just getting reliable gig info was a
rarity, much less hearing about a cancellation.  It also necessitated
a trip on another day to Blacksburg, VA, to get a refund at the record
store where we bought the tickets.  It was a suitably glum event in
one of the worst-ever months of my life.

later,

Miles

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:08:04 -0600
From: Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: first Robyn gig bandwagon

First Robyn gig was May 1990 at the Bluebird Cafe here in Nashville,
accompanied by a grad school friend and Melissa.  Someday I will find
my setlist, which is scattered across 3-4 small pieces of small
notepad paper.  Robyn solo, acoustic guitar and piano.  Wunnerful,
very like the SUNY 1990 gig that makes the rounds ever so often.  The
Bluebird actually had him in for two sets that night, and we had
reservations only for the first show, so I have no idea what
transpired at the second.  We walked to and from the show from our new
digs in a Green Hills duplex, and we got soaked on the way back since
a thunderstorm rolled into town during the first show.

First Robyn gig I was *supposed* to see was the Egyptians in
Charlottesivlle, VA, in March 1988.  Melissa, my cousin Rusty, and I
made the three-hour drive from Athens, WV,  to Charlottesville, and I
picked up my first speeding ticket just after we transitioned from
I-81 to I-64, for going 65 in a 55 zone.  This was during the time
that the Reagan-era Congress had authorized states to raise the speed
limit if they so chose.  West Virginia had zoomed up to 65, but
Virginia kept it at 55, I'm sure not out of a concern for public
safety but to maintain the state's well-earned reputation as one giant
speed trap.

When we got to Charlottesville, we had no idea where to head, and had
to stop at a tourism office to directions to the club.  We finally got
there around 8 PM, only to find the club empty and a small notice (on
orange posterboard, if I recall) posted on the door about the show
being cancelled due to Robyn's illness.  We turned right around and
drove the three hours back to Athens, WV, all for nothing.  None of us
even thought to call the club in advance, plus in those
pre-popular-Internet days, just getting reliable gig info was a
rarity, much less hearing about a cancellation.  It also necessitated
a trip on another day to Blacksburg, VA, to get a refund at the record
store where we bought the tickets.  It was a suitably glum event in
one of the worst-ever months of my life.

later,

Miles

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:31:17 -0600
From: Bret <bretley@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: First Gig

"ran out of material (!)"

(!) is right. Even in the early days this would not seem a simple task.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:39:11 -0500, John Irvine <jeirvine@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sat., 15 Nov. 1986, Haverford College. His guitar or amp wasn't
> working at first and he went into a long riff on giving it to the
> audience - my first Robyn monologue experience and it was most
> definitely memorable.
> 
> If I remember correctly, They Might Be Giants opened, and had to play
> a song twice for an encore because they ran out of material (!)
> 
> -John I
> 


- -- 
- --Bret Bolton

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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 02:08:53 -0600
From: Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Miles Mexican God

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:24:30 -0800 (PST), C. Huff <huff71@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Miles,
> 
> At least we can agree on something.  Mexican God is a
> fine piece of flesh.  I am giving Speed of Things a
> play tonight in your honour.

I appreciate it, and hope you find it less disposable this go-round -
at least more like something that might have required an entire
afternoon to crank out.

> How'd that Luna show go?

It was actually tonight, and it was every bit as gorgeous as I had
hoped it would be.   It's always 3 a.m. with 1969 LIVE on the stereo
and an endless supply of alcohol in Dean Wareham's world, and I feel
lucky to have gotten to visit it again.  It was one of those rare
shows where I really would be willing to listen as long as they'd be
willing to play.

I also stayed around afterwards long enough to meet everyone except
Dean (who stuck his head out briefly, but was quickly besieged and,
after an autograph, retired to the dressing room never to return), and
they were uniformly nice and obliging.

And Jeme, I remember that you couldn't contain your bile over the
photographic evidence of Britta Phillips that you've seen, but I think
you'd be swayed in person.  Maybe.  Me, I already liked her, but up
close, she's like a doll come to life.  Truly lovely.

later,

Miles

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