From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #330 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, November 17 2004 Volume 13 : Number 330 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Philly Show [Jon Lewis ] The east coast shows ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly ["The Mammal Brain" ] Re: !!!paeR [Vendren ] Re: the unstrung harp [James Dignan ] Re: Mission Accomplished! [Miles Goosens ] Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly [Miles Goosens ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #329 [2fs ] Re: Philly Show ["Brian" ] This week in squid ... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: Philly Show ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Philly Show ["Roberta Cowan" ] Majority Report [John Irvine ] RE: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly ["Bachman, Michael" ] This is just disgustingly brilliant [Eb ] Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly ["Stewart C. Russell" ] first Robyn gig bandwagon [John Barrington Jones ] Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly [Rex Broome ] Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly [Bret ] Re: This week in squid ... [Rex Broome ] Re: first Robyn gig bandwagon [FSThomas ] RE: This week in squid ... ["Bachman, Michael" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:44:57 -0500 From: Jon Lewis Subject: Re: Philly Show On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 11:16 AM, The Great Quail wrote: >> Ghost Ship > > Fucking hell. It's like he's *taunting* me. Woj knows what I mean. > I've seen > Robyn some 30 times, and not ONCE have I seen him play that song. Me too. It's one of my 5 favorite Robyns, and I REALLY thought he was gonna play it this time, from the previous setlists of the tour. God damn him and his fancy overcoat and supernumerary teeth!! Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:12:32 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: The east coast shows After seeing Robyn 4 times in 5 nights I feel like I am missing something by not seeing him again tonight. I need the rest more than more shows though. I got to meet a few of the lurkers and regular Robyn attendees over the last week and had a total blast(other than running out of minidisc on Sunday). I would rate the 4 shows as follows: 1 Philly 2 Brooklyn/Scranton 3 Hoboken What Hoboken lacked in focus it more than made up for in length. Brooklyn was great but seemed forced due to time constraints. The Scranton show was great but short and not a request show. The Philly show just had all the components for a great Robyn show; plenty of surreal monologues, some surprises in the set, decent length, an honest to goodness encore on top of his 'there is no encore tonight, this is the encore' policy and a bizarre Bowie impression to close it. The encore had him coming back on stage in his traveling clothes. He didn't plug in and just hopped into the crowd and with the crowd encircling him he launched into Rock your Baby and a medley of twisted Philly Soul . He didn't move until he started playing Sound & Vision in a funny Bowie voice and then stood at the edge of the crowd hamming it up. He hopped back on stage and did All Shook Up, not just a vocal impression of Elvis but the whole shebang, hips and sneering lip. I wish I had video! I want to do it again! Max ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:41:04 -0800 From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly what happened is that morris fucking *owned* that tour. i'll give you that he was a little chunky. but aren't we all? weird. i thought that the maxwell's show was one of the two or three best of the tour, and that the irving plaza show was one of the two or three worst. huhn. can't really believe it, but it's been 16 years since my first. time do fly! alas, my most recent time (last november) was *far* the worst. maybe it was that he *didn't* play "We're Gonna Live In The Trees". *damn*, i hate that song! (haven't heard the studio version.) same goes for bayard...except that it's bayard's fave robyn song. KEN "Some people like to call me 'Chuck'" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:22:26 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly >From: "The Mammal Brain" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:41:04 -0800 > > >weird. i thought that the maxwell's show was one of the two or three best >of the tour, and that the irving plaza show was one of the two or three >worst. I saw Philly, Hoboken and NYC. I rate them in this order Hoboken, Philly(close second) and NYC a distant third. >It's been 17 years since I saw my first Robyn Hitchcock show> >huhn. can't really believe it, but it's been 16 years since my first. >time do fly! 9/22/89 was my first show, 15 year ago. Oh and I do agree this Philly show was one of the best. Max ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:34:19 -0800 From: "David Stovall" Subject: RE: Dweezil (not RED weezil) >Wasn't this where we were recently talking about Dweezil Zappa's band >opening for Spinal Tap? > >Odd coincidence...I caught a bit of a promo documentary on IFC tonight, >called "Spinal Tap Goes to 20." And Dweezil was one of the folks >interviewed, and he specifically said something like "We once opened >for Spinal Tap at this hotel in Anaheim, and people still come up to me >and say 'Hey, I saw you guys open for Spinal Tap!'" How 'bout that? > >Oh, and I checked my old ticket for the show. The show was on January >18, 1991. And the opener is not billed as "Z," but as "The Dweezil >Zappa Band." Aha - thanks for the details. >From: Ken Weingold >Subject: Re: Spinal Tap > >Huh. I saw Spinal Tap in 1992 or 1993 (Break Like The Wind tour) and >don't remember if there was even an opening band. Fantastic show, >though. Really well done. Anything that could have been bad or >cliche (relative to the movie) was pulled off really well. Agreed! I saw them (at Deer Creek, Noblesville, IN) on that tour (early- to mid-'92), and came away with the distinct impression that these guys were showing their "stage" chops - so much of the action was pantomimed, and they did it so well that, even in that big venue, I think the whole audience could follow along quite well. The show was *hilarious* too - sadly, I have yet to track down any boots of that tour, though a friend of mine says he has a very poor quality tape of most of the show I saw, complete with his own drunken commentary. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:04:54 -0800 From: Vendren Subject: Re: !!!paeR > GoF were on my wish list from the last time we discussed > bands we would like to see reform. I'm undecided. I love GOF's first few albums, but their early 90s stuff was pretty lame. Mind you, this seems to be a full original lineup reunion, which their 90s stuff was not. I Wish they were coming here. Last time they were here they played with Wire. Now that's a show I'm sorry to have missed. Palle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:14:29 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: the unstrung harp >Eb, busily trying to re-string his piano upside-down Aw, don't do that... you'll just have Cap complaining that it makes it harder to hear your nuances ;) James (who agrees with Jeme on the posts, but couldn't resist) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:45:00 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Mission Accomplished! On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 10:57:08 -0500, Maximilian Lang wrote: > >On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 2fs wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:54:21 -0800, Tom Clark wrote: > >And Conrad Bain as President? Now HE could unite! > > > Maybe it's my cabbage talkin' but I think Hank Bain would do a better job. Zontar/Red Rooster 2008! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:50:56 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:30:40 -0800 (PST), C. Huff wrote: > Was it the fact > that what I consider his "throwaway" songs like > Penelope's Angles and Speed of Things were like > shining crystals gleaming through the 21st century > darkness? Dude, if you consider "The Speed of Things" to be a throwaway, I have no idea how high your standards would have to be. :-) later, Miles, who did not see the Soft Boys ever, darn it, but who did see Interpol on both Nov. 4th and 5th, and was wowed both times ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:45:35 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V13 #329 >From: Ken Weingold > >Ah, here it is: >. >I suggest keeping it in one direction if you actually >want to play it. Absolutely. I have aspirations to play the mandolin, but I haven't had much time for practice since I got it (it's also a nasty specimen). As the tuning is different I'll have to learn new fingerings. I have started learning upside down, this way the (rh) violinists in the familly can also play it without having to learn new fingering - they do have to learn to pick though. Eb, at least one LH piano has been built. I read a couple of books on the historical development of musical instuments which suggesting that lefties weren't so hampered in the past. In the past lh violinists, flautists, lutenists etc. existed, violins only became rh when ensembles got larger and the players got clumped in rows. I recall a picture showing a lefty portative organ. The author was uncertain whether this, and other simillar pictures, should be interpreted as showing that instruments were built according to the handedness of the intended player or merely that there was not yet a standard configuration. Incidently as lutes are all hand built these days and most luthiers will do lh versions it is probably easier to get the lh lute that you want than it is to get the bass that you want. cheers, Brian _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:58:38 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #329 On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:45:35 +0000, Brian Hoare wrote: > Eb, at least one LH piano has been built. > > I read a couple of books on the historical development of musical instuments > which suggesting that lefties weren't so hampered in the past. In the past > lh violinists, flautists, lutenists etc. existed, violins only became rh > when ensembles got larger and the players got clumped in rows. I recall a > picture showing a lefty portative organ. The author was uncertain whether > this, and other simillar pictures, should be interpreted as showing that > instruments were built according to the handedness of the intended player or > merely that there was not yet a standard configuration. I understand the need for LH instruments generally...but a piano or other keyboard instrument? I mean, you need both hands to be capable of fast, articulate playing to be a good keyboard player - and a lot of the keyboard literature has extended passages in which the LH does play the melody. Anyway, sometimes the accompanying part is more complex than the melody, and would seem to favor LHers. Also, of course, unless you're playing fingerstyle or using complicated picking patterns, the LH does more work playing guitar than the RH. When I first started playing guitar, I thought it might've been easier to have learned it upside down so I fretted w/my RH. I blame Ned Flanders. - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:08:15 -0500 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Philly Show Jon Lewis and The Great Quail wrote: > >> Ghost Ship > > > > Fucking hell. It's like he's *taunting* me. Woj knows what I mean. > > I've seen > > Robyn some 30 times, and not ONCE have I seen him play that song. > > Me too. It's one of my 5 favorite Robyns, and I REALLY thought he was > gonna play it this time, from the previous setlists of the tour. God > damn him and his fancy overcoat and supernumerary teeth!! I'll trade you a Ghost Ship for a Skull a Suitcase and a Long Red Bottle of Wine. - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:16:59 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: This week in squid ... Peruvian police seized 700 kilograms of cocaine that smugglers stuffed inside frozen giant squid for the journey to Mexico and the US. From BBC News: "The drugs - worth about $17.5m - were sealed in several layers of plastic and other wrapping material and covered in pepper to divert sniffer dogs.... Interior Minister Javier Reategui said that police operations had uncovered a drug-trafficking organisation using a fish-exporting company." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:59:29 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Philly Show Jon Lewis and The Great Quail wrote: > >>> Ghost Ship > >> > >> Fucking hell. It's like he's *taunting* me. Woj knows what I mean. > >> I've seen > >> Robyn some 30 times, and not ONCE have I seen him play that song. > >> Me too. It's one of my 5 favorite Robyns, and I REALLY thought he was >> gonna play it this time, from the previous setlists of the tour. God >> damn him and his fancy overcoat and supernumerary teeth!! Nuppy came back with: >I'll trade you a Ghost Ship for a Skull a Suitcase and a Long Red Bottle >of Wine. If Robyn tour stops in cities this coming Spring that he missed on this tour, hopefully Detroit will be included and we can request both of them then! Michael B. NP SpOoKeD! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:10:02 -0500 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: Philly Show From: The Great Quail > > Well Well Well (Dylan) > > Are you sure? It wasn't John Lennon? Yep, my mistake. A combination of fatigue and the perpetuation of a previous Robynbase error. And I knew it was Lennon when I was listening to it! But there is a Dylan song with that title also.. Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:41:10 -0500 From: John Irvine Subject: Majority Report Caught most of the Majority Report/Air America segment. Nice little chat, and Robyn completely nailed what I've been coming to realize about W and his hordes: they don't want to take this country back to pre-Clinton, pre-civil rights, or pre-Scopes, but all the way back to pre-Gallileo. America is renouncing the Enlightenment And he's right about ducks too - male Mallards are born gang-rapists. Bill O'Reilly is probably part duck. Cheers, - -John I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:13:58 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly < < Eddie came back with: >weird. i thought that the maxwell's show was one of the two or three best >of the tour, and that the irving plaza show was one of the two or three >worst. Would the Chicago show at The Metro and the Seattle show also be included in the best category? You were at all the 2001 North America shows right, with the exception of the SXSW? < >huhn. can't really believe it, but it's been 16 years since my first. >time do fly! Let's see, Feb of 1992, so 12 3/4 years for me. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:32:01 -0500 From: Jon Lewis Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 09:22 PM, Maximilian Lang wrote: > >> It's been 17 years since I saw my first Robyn Hitchcock show> > >> huhn. can't really believe it, but it's been 16 years since my first. >> time do fly! > > 9/22/89 was my first show, 15 year ago. > Element tour, 1986, I believe. 18 years for me! Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:48:35 -0800 From: Eb Subject: This is just disgustingly brilliant http://www.greyvideo.com The song was cool enough, but the video? YOWSA. (Lookie, I'm temporarily going into "Steve" mode!) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:31:12 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly It says here that my first Robyn gig was 9 May 1995 at the Renfrew Ferry, but I was fairly sure it was sometime in late 1994. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:37:37 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Mission Accomplished! > > Maybe it's my cabbage talkin' but I think Hank Bain would do a better job. > > Zontar/Red Rooster 2008! > > later, > > Miles Whoa. Thanks, Miles... totally missed the reference first time around. - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:36:00 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: first Robyn gig bandwagon The Bar & Grill, Salt Lake City, summer of 1990. Dragged to gig by a friend, got bored, left early. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:52:50 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly > > > huhn. can't really believe it, but it's been 16 years since my first. > time do fly! Thirteen years here. Didn't catch the man live at all this year... looking forward to the spring tour. - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:46:26 -0600 From: Bret Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly Askingtree says mine is March 22 1989 at Reunion Arena (opening for REM). A mere 15 years. - -b On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:31:12 -0500, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > It says here that my first Robyn gig was 9 May 1995 at the Renfrew > Ferry, but I was fairly sure it was sometime in late 1994. > > Stewart > - -- - --Bret Bolton ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:46:27 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: This week in squid ... > Peruvian police seized 700 kilograms of cocaine that smugglers stuffed > inside frozen giant squid for the journey to Mexico and the US. From BBC > News: Can you still remember how much you did? Tell me about your drugs! Did you pack them in a giant squid? Tell me about your drugs! - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:13:37 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: first Robyn gig bandwagon With the Egyptians, May 20th, 1993 at Toad's Place in New Haven, Connecticut. A scant 11 and a half years ago. Went with my roommate at the time, Adam, who single-handedly reinvigorated my interest in Robyn. Two distinct memories of the show: Robyn mentioning something about the fact that we were all missing the final episode of Cheers (never have seen it) *and* closing the show with a kick-assed a cappella version of Kung Fu Fighting. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:16:04 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: This week in squid ... Subject: Re: This week in squid ... >> Peruvian police seized 700 kilograms of cocaine that smugglers stuffed > >inside frozen giant squid for the journey to Mexico and the US. From BBC >> News: Rex wrote: >Can you still remember how much you did? >Tell me about your drugs! >Did you pack them in a giant squid? >Tell me about your drugs! That's the smile of the week for me! Good one Rex. Robyn would approve, I bet. MJB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:04:44 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Robyn at the World Cafe in Philly On Nov 17, 2004, at 11:46 AM, Bret wrote: > Askingtree says mine is March 22 1989 at Reunion Arena (opening for > REM). > > A mere 15 years. Hey, me too! - - Steve, permanently in Steve mode __________ Neko Mimi - Neko Mimi Mode / It's Neko Mimi Mode! / Neko Mimi - Neko Mimi Mode Meow... Meow... / FullMoon FullMoon / Kiss Kiss Kiss / Onii-sama / It's a promise! Neko Mimi - Neko Mimi Mode / My servant! / Neko Mimi - Neko Mimi Mode / I felt like a kiss... ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #330 ********************************