From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #324 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 12 2004 Volume 13 : Number 324 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Mission Accomplished! [Tom Clark ] Re: Mission Accomplished! [2and2makes5@comcast.net] reap, for real this time [steve ] Re: reap, for real this time [Ken Weingold ] Re: Top 5 [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Cale, Cream, Reunions [James Dignan ] Gibsons [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Quick Flying V notes.... ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: reap ["Brian" ] Re: Southpaw & Maxwell's? [bisontentacle ] RE: Gibsons ["Bachman, Michael" ] JEALOUS [Carrie Galbraith ] WMD found in Iraq (not yet confirmed) ["The Mammal Brain" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:49:24 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Mission Accomplished! On Nov 10, 2004, at 7:55 PM, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 2fs wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:54:21 -0800, Tom Clark wrote: >> >>> Next up: Conrad Burns named new Commerce Secretary. >> >> And Montgomery Burns as Energy Secretary! > > And Conrad Bain as President? Now HE could unite! > I meant Montgomery Burns! D'OH!!!!! In any event - here's some news on ol' Conrad: http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8281 Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, What might be right for you, may not be right for some. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 05:24:31 +0000 From: 2and2makes5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Mission Accomplished! Is James Watt, the Reagan Sec. of the Interior, still around? He'd seem to fit in well in Bush part II. Jon - -------------- Original message -------------- > On Nov 10, 2004, at 7:55 PM, Ken Weingold wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 2fs wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:54:21 -0800, Tom Clark wrote: > >> > >>> Next up: Conrad Burns named new Commerce Secretary. > >> > >> And Montgomery Burns as Energy Secretary! > > > > And Conrad Bain as President? Now HE could unite! > > > > I meant Montgomery Burns! D'OH!!!!! > > In any event - here's some news on ol' Conrad: > http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8281 > > > Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, > What might be right for you, may not be right for some. > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:38:41 -0600 From: steve Subject: reap, for real this time Arafat. - - Steve __________ It's amazing how many partisan Democrats and disgruntled former employees working under cover as career civil servants, spies and military officers have betrayed this president. It just seems to happen again and again and again. I mean, just think of the list: Rand Beers, well-known partisan Democrat and hack, Richard Clarke, self-promoter, disgruntled former employee, and "self-regarding buffoon", Karen Kwiatkowski, conspiracy theorist and all-around freak, Valerie Plame, hack and nepotist, Joe Wilson, partisan hack, self-promoter and shameless green tea lover. When will the abuse end? - Josh Marshall ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 00:47:37 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: reap, for real this time On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, steve wrote: > Arafat. Weekend At Yasser's. He's a party animal. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 04:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Top 5 Michael Bachman wrote: > The Teardrop Explodes Doesn't Balfey hate Cope even more than The Bunnymen do? ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 02:08:20 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Cale, Cream, Reunions >Probably "Things" from the new album... he's actually saying "doin' >it... doing the things... the thing(s) you do in Denver when you're >dead". Zevon reference or not, I don't know, but the same song refers >to taking Tiger Mountain. It's on the new album in two versions... >one poppy and one not not not not not. ISTR reading in an interview (UNCUT, about three months back) that he got the title from the movie but wasn't surprised when he found out it was a Zevon quote, and thought it was nice synchronicity that he was probably writing the song about the time WZ keeled over. > >It would just make my year if this reunion came off well. Maybe I'm > >out of touch, but I just can't imagine Clapton taking the stage without > >Greg Phillinganes or Steve Ferrone... > > How about with Steve Winwood? It could be both a Cream/quasi Blind Faith >reunion. That way you can have a second guitar or a keyboard. y'know, back when Clapton and Winwood were going though their "I'm still relevant... honest!" phases in the mid 80s, there were times when I'm sure they were writing songs intended for each other. "Freedom overspill" by Winwood would have sounded 100 times better with a Clapton vocal, and "I can't stand it" from Clapton sounded like "Night train part II". My dream reunion list? *Toy Love *Fairport Convention? Or Richard and Linda...? *Hunters and Collectors *Perhaps a Police revival would get Sting some of his ability back. *And getting Gregory and Chambers back with Partridge and Moulding would be damn fine, too. Sadly, most of the bands I'd like to see back together, it's not possible this side of the divide. (The Who, the original Echo & the Bunnymen, The Triffids, those wacky Quarrymen...) But I'm overjoyed at the thought that the Scavengers HAVE reunited (NZ's answer to the Buzzcocks - "Myseterex" and "True Love" were two of the best Punk-power-pop- whatever songs from anywhere in 1979). James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:37:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Gibsons Don't forget the Thunderbird and Firebird, which you can see in the penult photo on this page: The Thunderbird is like a less angular Explorer, and the Firebird "cants" the other way. Hendrix famously played a red Flying V at the Isle of Wight concert a couple of weeks before he died. Robyn, Tim and Jake did an unforgettable 25th anniversary commemorative gig at Yarmouth in 1995 - strictly acoustic, however. My impression is that Robyn only plays Fender electrics - can anyone think of instances of him playing Gibsons? I certainly can't envisage him with a V. The only Flying V I ever played was an Antoria copy and the balance was rubbish, body too heavy for the neck. No idea whether the real Gibsons are easier to manage. Has anyone tried? I think that the SG vs Les Paul issue hinges on whether the pickups are PAF humbuckers like the LP or something else like the SG - my guess is that the V has PAFs and therefore sounds like a Les Paul. Apparently the SG was developed when it looked as if Les Paul was going to take his patents elsewhere and Gibson had to create a replacement in a hurry. But LP eventually re-signed with Gibson, so they finished up with 2 different solid body guitars. [This is all from memory so details are suspect as usual]. - - Mike Godwin PS I just read the Cale autobiography, and found it a bit depressing - lousy relationship with Lou, lousy relationships with a lot of wives and girlfriends, too many drugs, Sterling dropped dead, etc. He obviously feels he deserved a composing credit on "Black Angel's Death Song", claiming that he worked out the chords as well as the viola part. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:11:29 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Quick Flying V notes.... > From: "Bachman, Michael" > > Electric "Flying V" guitars are pretty rare, aren't they? Pete Townshend has used them to great effect, he even poses with one on the cover of "All The Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes" I think the Flying V makes a very sweet, clear sustain (Pete uses it frequently on that album), and when paired with a good head and amp combo (years ago a friend used one with a Sovtek head on a Marshall stack) it made a delicious, ungodly roar. BTW, I'm a guitar geek but I can't play a note. Go figure. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:38:28 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Gibsons Micky G: > My impression is that Robyn only plays Fender electrics - can anyone think > of instances of him playing Gibsons? I certainly can't envisage him with a > V. He's played Rickenbackers onstage and in videos, but one gets the impression it's just the 12-strings. I know there are some old SB's photos where he's playing non-Fenders, but no, never seen him with a Gibson of any kind. I can kinda relate... great guitars but nor quite my thing. I have an Epiphone acoustic 12-string that's on its last legs and sorta kinda own a ravaged SG bass with one pickup removed... it's the bass my dad borrowed for me to play when I became his bassist, and the owner never asked for it back, so it's lived in the spare room at my parents' house for the last fifteen years. - -Rex, Rickies and Fenders all the way except for that fine Hyundai bass - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:36:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap Iris Chang, author of _The Rape of Nanking._ ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:27:54 -0500 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: reap "Jeff Dwarf" said: > Iris Chang, author of _The Rape of Nanking._ > > .com I went to see a play based on her book in Chicago a few years back. It was very moving. Sad she took her own life when she was making a difference in the world... - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:21:36 -0500 From: bisontentacle Subject: Re: Southpaw & Maxwell's? one time at band camp, Maximilian Lang (maximlang@hotmail.com) said: >I am going to both Maxwell's and Southpaw, who else is going to these >shows? i'll be at both too. >I don't know what the plan prior to Southpaw is, I will be at Tim >Reed's. if any enterprising locals have a plan suggestion, please pipe up! i'll be driving/training down from new haven sometime saturday depending on what's going on. >As far as Sunday, does anyone want to get together for dinner prior to >the show? sign me up! woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:29:46 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Gibsons Micky G: >> My impression is that Robyn only plays Fender electrics - can anyone think >> of instances of him playing Gibsons? I certainly can't envisage him with a >> V. Rex: >He's played Rickenbackers onstage and in videos, but one gets the >impression it's just the 12-strings. I know there are some old SB's >photos where he's playing non-Fenders, but no, never seen him with a >Gibson of any kind. I can kinda relate... great guitars but nor quite >my thing. I have an Epiphone acoustic 12-string that's on its last >legs and sorta kinda own a ravaged SG bass with one pickup removed... >it's the bass my dad borrowed for me to play when I became his >bassist, and the owner never asked for it back, so it's lived in the >spare room at my parents' house for the last fifteen years. I seemed to remember reading that Clapton switched to a Strat because he saw Winwood playing one. I like the story behind Clapton's famous "Blackie" Strat. He was on tour with the Dominoes in the Fall of 1970 and stopped of at a store in Nashville and bought 6 new Strats. He gave one to Winwood, one to Harrison and I think the third one to Dave Mason. He took the remaining three apart and pieced Blackie together from the best parts of the three. Blackie was Claptons main axe for over 10 years, until he retired it in the 80's. It was auctioned off for a record amount this past year. He still has his other famous Strat, "Brownie", that he used to record Layla from what I gather. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:08:39 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: JEALOUS I don't suppose Robyn will be coming to Romania after all these fabulous gigs in America... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:37:53 -0800 (PST) From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: WMD found in Iraq (not yet confirmed) . don't know how the Asia Times has managed to round up its stable of writers, each of whom are not only very good, but also very prolific. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 02:01:41 -0600 From: steve Subject: More tax stuff (NR) The numbers from the national sales tax thread from a few days back have been bothering me, so I ran a family of four making $30,000 through TurboTax 2003 - married filing jointly, two dependents, one wage earner. 30,000 - - 9,500 for standard deduction - - 12,200 for 3,050 x four exemptions = 8,300 taxable income Which puts you pretty much in the 10 percent bracket for a net federal income tax of 833 dollars However, there are tax credits due 833 child tax credit (1040, line 33) 983 earned income credit (1040, line 41) 1167 additional child tax credit (1040, line 42) So, the family gets a "refund" of 2150 For an effective federal income tax rate of negative 3.28 percent! When you consider Social Security and Medicare taxes of approximately 2295 You get a total federal tax bill of 145 Or just over 12 dollars per month (for taxes that are withheld) And if this family spends every dollar made (and you know the vast majority at this level will), they will be paying sales tax each month of about 575 less 12 is 563 or 84 more in taxes each month after the Fair Tax 479 monthly consumption allowance rebate for 1008 per year more under the Fair Tax than they are paying now. I am by no means a tax specialist, so feel free point out any flaws in the above. - - Steve __________ When the president speaks, unscripted, from his own moral center, what shows itself is a bottomless void. - James Carroll, on George W. Bush ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #324 ********************************