From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #323 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, November 10 2004 Volume 13 : Number 323 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Lovely [Jeff Dwarf ] Quick notes.... [Eb ] RE: Quick notes.... ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Top 5 [Tom Clark ] Re: Quick notes.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Quick notes.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Quick notes.... [Ken Weingold ] Re: Quick notes.... [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Quick notes.... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Quick notes.... [Ken Weingold ] RE: Quick notes.... [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Quick notes.... [Ken Weingold ] Re: Quick notes.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Quick notes.... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: Quick notes.... [Eb ] RE: Quick notes.... [Eb ] Re: Quick notes.... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: Quick notes.... ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Quick notes.... [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Quick notes.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Quick notes.... [Ken Weingold ] Re: Quick notes.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Quick notes.... [Ken Weingold ] RE: Top 5 ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Quick notes.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Quick notes.... [Ken Weingold ] Re: Quick notes.... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Quick notes.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Quick notes.... [Rex Broome ] Re: Top 5 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Southpaw & Maxwell's? ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Mission Accomplished! [2fs ] Re: Quick notes.... [2fs ] Re: Quick notes.... [2fs ] Re: Mission Accomplished! [Ken Weingold ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Lovely Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > FSThomas wrote: > > > Four words: Middle of the Road. A socially liberal, > > > fiscally conservative candidate would make me > > > excruciatingly happy. The country's getting so > > > polarized now, though, that I fear that anyone who > > > is a centrist (a genuine centrist) would be viewed as > > > being too far left by the right and too far right by > > > the left. > > > > You want Gore to run again? > > Gore ain't no libertarian. No, but he certainly is a generally fiscally conservative socially liberal guy who get assailed from both sides for being too much of the other. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:09:51 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Quick notes.... Saw John Cale last night. A good (not great) show, but there were two AWFUL local-loser bands opening for him (the first was such a blatant Interpol clone that I can hardly believe they performed with a straight face). This meant Cale didn't come on until 10pm, and he played a good-sized set (about 100 minutes). So...I'm really dragging today, on only five hours' sleep. Cale (wearing casual, off-the-street clothes) started with two or three stark, synthetic songs which are presumably from his new album, and I began to wonder if the set was going to be really disappointing. However, he warmed up as he went along. Primary older favorites played: "Fear Is a Man's Best Friend," "Venus in Furs" (directly after "Fear"), "Paris 1919," "Andalucia," "Ship of Fools" (sorely missing those loony up-and-down keyboard runs), "Leaving It Up to You" and (the encore) "Pablo Picasso." Cale played synthesizer (usually with a basic "piano" setting), acoustic and electric "Flying V" guitar, and (on "Venus in Furs") electric violin (or viola?). He had a younger, easily ignored three-piece band behind him, and I think this may be the first time I've seen him when he wasn't a strict solo performer. (Three times altogether?) Like almost every other show I've ever seen at the Galaxy Theatre (a former dinner theater buried down in mid-Orange County), the show was sadly underpopulated. There were probably about 150 (?) people there, and the place could easily hold 600-700. Depressing. I really wonder how this place has stayed afloat for so long. Maybe it's condemnation enough that a devout music fan in Orange County like me has only been there five or six times ever (um...Cale...Beck...Atari Teenage Riot...Fountains of Wayne/Owsley...Bandit Queen...a Gus Gus show which I didn't even want to see...). Cale's voice is still in good shape, though he can't "howl" quite as well as in the past. However, I wasn't crazy about his re-interpretations of some older songs. He had a tendency to ramble-bark melodies in the same way Dylan (or Lou Reed, for that matter) tries to keep *his* classics fresh, and it put some emotional distance between him and the material. He often didn't seem "inside" the lyric like he should have been. He seemed to relax a little more when playing guitar, however. Cale had a friendly, intimate manner - maybe that's unaviodable with such a small crowd -- but there were no notable between-song comments. Interestingly, there were two or three songs which I really liked and didn't recognize, so I'll be curious if the main Cale fansite will post any tour setlists. One was an unusually poppy song with a chorus repeating (I think) "Do it"? Eb Np Firewater/The Man on the Burning Tightrope (their best album yet!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:44:38 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Quick notes.... Eb wrote: >Cale played synthesizer (usually with a basic "piano" >setting), acoustic and electric "Flying V" guitar, and (on "Venus in >Furs") electric violin (or viola?). Electric "Flying V" guitars are pretty rare, aren't they? Albert King used to play one. I seem to remember Jimi Hendrix had one, but rarely played it. Also, I think one of the guys from Wishbone Ash played one as his main axe. I think they were all 1960's era Gibson models. What are the drawbacks to them, don't they stay in tune or are they harder to play? Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:54:21 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Mission Accomplished! On Nov 10, 2004, at 4:52 AM, Marc Alberts wrote: >> >>> Ashcrofts former deputy, Larry Thompson, who recently took >> a job as >>> general counsel at PepsiCo, is considered a possible successor, >>> Republican officials have said. If appointed, he would be >> the nations >>> first black attorney general. >> >> >> Isn't this the guy who bent over for Microsoft? > > I don't believe so. He was, however, the person running the Enron > prosecutions for Justice, for what that's worth. Ironically, yet not surprisingly, Bush appoints Alberto Gonzales, who was a partner in the law firm that has *defended* Enron. Next up: Conrad Burns named new Commerce Secretary. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:07:08 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Top 5 On Nov 9, 2004, at 11:33 PM, Marc Holden wrote: > It also looks like that Cream reunion I hoped for is in the works for > 2005, at least for some UK shows. It would just make my year if this reunion came off well. Maybe I'm out of touch, but I just can't imagine Clapton taking the stage without Greg Phillinganes or Steve Ferrone... > Damn it would be nice to see the Jam headline Coachella next year... Just having them on the bill would be outstanding, but I don't think many of "the kids" would stay around for them as headliners. >> reunions I would like to see happen: >> The Jam >> Cream >> Talking Heads I'll just add: Original Yardbirds, or The Jeff Beck Group w/ Rod Stewart. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:13:37 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Eb: > Interestingly, there were two or three songs which I really liked and > didn't recognize, so I'll be curious if the main Cale fansite will post > any tour setlists. One was an unusually poppy song with a chorus > repeating (I think) "Do it"? Probably "Things" from the new album... he's actually saying "doin' it... doing the things... the thing(s) you do in Denver when you're dead". Zevon reference or not, I don't know, but the same song refers to taking Tiger Mountain. It's on the new album in two versions... one poppy and one not not not not not. I wish I'd been there... kept meaning to look for Cale's local date. Turns out I couldn't have made it anyway. - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:19:07 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Michael B: > Electric "Flying V" guitars are pretty rare, aren't they? Albert King > used to play one. I seem to remember Jimi Hendrix had one, but rarely played > it. Also, I think one of the guys from Wishbone Ash played one as his main > axe. I think they were all 1960's era Gibson models. What are the drawbacks > to them, don't they stay in tune or are they harder to play? They poke you in the thigh and look gay. Bob Mould and Neil Young both played 'em at one time or another. Kitsch factor? - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:27:22 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Quick notes.... On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, Rex Broome wrote: > Michael B: > > Electric "Flying V" guitars are pretty rare, aren't they? Albert King > > used to play one. I seem to remember Jimi Hendrix had one, but rarely played > > it. Also, I think one of the guys from Wishbone Ash played one as his main > > axe. I think they were all 1960's era Gibson models. What are the drawbacks > > to them, don't they stay in tune or are they harder to play? > > They poke you in the thigh and look gay. And some see it as a downside that you can't play it sitting down. And FWIW, you can still get them from Epiphone. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Rex Broome wrote: > [Electric "Flying V" guitars] poke you in the thigh and > look gay. > > Bob Mould too easy, too easy, too easy.... ... and Neil Young both played 'em at one time or > another. Kitsch factor? For what it's worth, they always struck me (visually speaking -- I can't play the things) as cheesy and hair-metal, though I can't say why. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:34:08 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: RE: Quick notes.... At 01:44 PM 11/10/2004 -0500, Bachman, Michael wrote: >Eb wrote: > > >Cale played synthesizer (usually with a basic "piano" > >setting), acoustic and electric "Flying V" guitar, and (on "Venus in > >Furs") electric violin (or viola?). > > Electric "Flying V" guitars are pretty rare, aren't they? Albert King >used to play one. I seem to remember Jimi Hendrix had one, but rarely played >it. Also, I think one of the guys from Wishbone Ash played one as his main >axe. I think they were all 1960's era Gibson models. What are the drawbacks >to them, don't they stay in tune or are they harder to play? I'm not sure how rare they were originally, but Gibson still makes the Flying V. Gibson even produced an all black "Gothic" model awhile back. The Flying Vs first came out in '58, and were reissued again in '67. The body shape should not have an effect on how well they stay in tune, or on how difficult it is to play - at least standing up. They don't look as if they'd be comfortable to play sitting down. The Edge played one in the "Beautiful Day" video. They sound pretty much like an SG, don't they? - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:44:59 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Quick notes.... On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > They sound pretty much like an SG, don't they? I don't know for sure, but I would think they'd sound more like a Les Paul than an SG. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:47:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Quick notes.... "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > I'm not sure how rare they were originally, but Gibson > still makes the Flying V. Gibson even produced an all > black "Gothic" model awhile back. The Flying Vs first > came out in '58, and were reissued again in > '67. The body shape should not have an effect on how > well they stay in tune, or on how difficult it is to > play - at least standing up. They don't look as if > they'd be comfortable to play sitting down. > > The Edge played one in the "Beautiful Day" video. I thought he played that really old guitar of his (I think maybe the first he ever owned -- I know he said he used it when they wrote _Boy_) that's more zig-zag shaped, with the flattish bottom, not a Flying V. More of drunken falling over Z, but backwards. > They sound pretty much like an SG, don't they? ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:05:07 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Quick notes.... On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > The Edge played one in the "Beautiful Day" video. > > I thought he played that really old guitar of his (I think > maybe the first he ever owned -- I know he said he used it > when they wrote _Boy_) that's more zig-zag shaped, with the > flattish bottom, not a Flying V. More of drunken falling > over Z, but backwards. Explorer? Bob Mould also played those in Husker Du. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:07:01 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... > I thought he played that really old guitar of his (I think > maybe the first he ever owned -- I know he said he used it > when they wrote _Boy_) that's more zig-zag shaped, with the > flattish bottom, not a Flying V. More of drunken falling > over Z, but backwards. I think that body shape is generally knows as "The Explorer"... weren't they originally made by Alembic? I dunno. A friend of mine told me she'd seen a Bob Mould show recently and that the show was really gay... and then she had to specify "gay gay, not gay retarded". I guess on some level it was a really offensive conversation, but it got the point across. - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:13:57 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Quick notes.... At 03:05 PM 11/10/2004 -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: >On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > The Edge played one in the "Beautiful Day" video. > > > > I thought he played that really old guitar of his (I think > > maybe the first he ever owned -- I know he said he used it > > when they wrote _Boy_) that's more zig-zag shaped, with the > > flattish bottom, not a Flying V. More of drunken falling > > over Z, but backwards. > >Explorer? Bob Mould also played those in Husker Du. Oh, right. Maybe it was an Explorer, and my brain replaced it with a Flying V. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:48:07 -0800 From: Eb Subject: RE: Quick notes.... Aww, man. Don't look to me for guitar-collector wisdom. The guitar was...red. ;) Eb - -----Original Message----- >Cale played synthesizer (usually with a basic "piano" >setting), acoustic and electric "Flying V" guitar, and (on "Venus in >Furs") electric violin (or viola?). Electric "Flying V" guitars are pretty rare, aren't they? Albert King used to play one. I seem to remember Jimi Hendrix had one, but rarely played it. Also, I think one of the guys from Wishbone Ash played one as his main axe. I think they were all 1960's era Gibson models. What are the drawbacks to them, don't they stay in tune or are they harder to play? Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:26:24 -0800 From: Eb Subject: RE: Quick notes.... Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was "Things," based on your lyric quote and an Amazon soundclip. He was at the Key Club in Hollywood the night before, if you didn't know.... Probably going to try to see Guided by Voices on Sunday, and say goodbye...what a fantastic live band. Eb - -----Original Message----- > Interestingly, there were two or three songs which I really liked and > didn't recognize, so I'll be curious if the main Cale fansite will post > any tour setlists. One was an unusually poppy song with a chorus > repeating (I think) "Do it"? Probably "Things" from the new album... he's actually saying "doin' it... doing the things... the thing(s) you do in Denver when you're dead". I wish I'd been there... kept meaning to look for Cale's local date. Turns out I couldn't have made it anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:31:16 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Quick notes.... At 12:07 PM 11/10/2004 -0800, Rex Broome wrote: >I think that body shape is generally knows as "The Explorer"... >weren't they originally made by Alembic? Alembic may or may not have copied the body style at some point, but the Explorer was also a Gibson invention, which first came out in 1958, the same year as the Flying V, the year of stupid guitar body shapes it seems. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:46:26 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Quick notes.... At 12:07 PM 11/10/2004 -0800, Rex Broome wrote: >>I think that body shape is generally knows as "The Explorer"... >>weren't they originally made by Alembic? Jason came back with: >Alembic may or may not have copied the body style at some point, but the >Explorer was also a Gibson invention, which first came out in 1958, the >same year as the Flying V, the year of stupid guitar body shapes it seems. Stupid car shapes as well. From the great lines of the 1957 models, several models went horribly wrong in 1958. Ford Thunderbird, Chevy Bel Air, Ford Fairlane, etc. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:48:33 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Eb on Cale > He was at the Key Club in Hollywood the night before, if you didn't > know.... Didn't know but couldn't have gone to that either. I really wanted to see Cale on this tour but totally dropped the ball. My life has been pretty damned insane lately. - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:53:18 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Quick notes.... - ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:31:16 -0800 >From: "Jason R. Thornton" >Subject: Re: Quick notes.... >To: "mechFegz of Death" > the >Explorer was also a Gibson invention, which first came out in 1958, the >same year as the Flying V, the year of stupid guitar body shapes it seems. Gibson thought these designs were very "space-age". The third, and by far rarest, "space-age" Gibson from '58 was the Moderne, as seen in the links below -- From what I've heard, they all do sound more like an SG than a Les Paul; the bodies are thin like an SG, to compensate for how large the surface area is. They're still ridiculously heavy (especially the Explorer) and awkward (especially the V). The hair-metal association with the V that comes to mind is from the Scorpions, Judas Priest, and Night Ranger. However, the V was extremely popular among '60s blues players, most notably Albert King and Lonnie Mack. (Augh! I'm a guitar-store geek again! Must... cleanse... brain...) - -- Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:56:33 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Jason: > Alembic may or may not have copied the body style at some point, but the > Explorer was also a Gibson invention, which first came out in 1958, the > same year as the Flying V, the year of stupid guitar body shapes it seems. I dunno... when did those little boxy headless Steinbergers come out? - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:01:43 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Quick notes.... On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, Dolph Chaney wrote: > The hair-metal association with the V that comes to mind is > from the Scorpions, Judas Priest, and Night Ranger. However, > the V was extremely popular among '60s blues players, most > notably Albert King and Lonnie Mack. I think Jackson also played a big part in that with their V's. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:19:12 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Dolph: > The hair-metal association with the V that comes to mind is > from the Scorpions, Judas Priest, and Night Ranger. And if you look at the shape of, say, the Explorer, you can see that it is sort of aesthetically balanced to compensate for the asymmetry of the "metal guitarist stance" (cf. Metallica et. al.), although there's probably a serious "chicken or the egg" question there. The guy who plays drums in my one band and guitar in the noise combo is amassing guitars at an alarming rate and he just bought a Randy Rhoads signature... something or other. It's less a flying V than a kind of wedge thing... it has a long tail on top but no thigh-gouging piece at the bottom. Pretty hilarious. I'd guess that our session on Sunday may be the first time in history that one of those was played in the same musical and on the same piece of music as a Rickenbacker 330 at the same... go ahead and try to prove me wrong. Other instruments in play included a Peavey strat copy, an Ovation acoustic-electric, a Washburn 5-string banjo and some goddamn jing bells*... - -Rex *(among the finest jingle bells ever constructed by Goddamn Inc., a sister company to Whammo!)... - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:51:58 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Quick notes.... On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, Rex Broome wrote: > The guy who plays drums in my one band and guitar in the noise combo > is amassing guitars at an alarming rate and he just bought a Randy > Rhoads signature... something or other. It's less a flying V than a > kind of wedge thing... it has a long tail on top but no thigh-gouging > piece at the bottom. Pretty hilarious. I'd guess that our session on > Sunday may be the first time in history that one of those was played > in the same musical and on the same piece of music as a Rickenbacker > 330 at the same... go ahead and try to prove me wrong. Other > instruments in play included a Peavey strat copy, an Ovation > acoustic-electric, a Washburn 5-string banjo and some goddamn jing > bells*... Some of Randy's V's were the Jacksons I mentioned. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:01:36 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Top 5 On Nov 9, 2004, at 11:33 PM, Marc Holden wrote: >> It also looks like that Cream reunion I hoped for is in the works for >> 2005, at least for some UK shows. Weird, I just bought Wheels Of Fire last night on CD. TC: >It would just make my year if this reunion came off well. Maybe I'm >out of touch, but I just can't imagine Clapton taking the stage without >Greg Phillinganes or Steve Ferrone... How about with Steve Winwood? It could be both a Cream/quasi Blind Faith reunion. That way you can have a second guitar or a keyboard. >>> reunions I would like to see happen: >>> The Jam >>> Cream >>> Talking Heads TC: >I'll just add: >Original Yardbirds, or The Jeff Beck Group w/ Rod Stewart. My additions: Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green, Danny Kirwin and Jeremy Spencer Gang of Four (1979-1981 line-up) The Teardrop Explodes Rain Parade Dream Syndicate The Three O'clock Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:00:51 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Ken: > Some of Randy's V's were the Jacksons I mentioned. Indeed, the Rhoads signature model I just saw was a Jackson. Chrome pickguard, doncha know. - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:04:03 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Quick notes.... On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, Rex Broome wrote: > Ken: > > Some of Randy's V's were the Jacksons I mentioned. > > Indeed, the Rhoads signature model I just saw was a Jackson. Chrome > pickguard, doncha know. I always thought that the sharp-edges V's that Jackson made were pretty hot. But in my opinion there's nothing like a Les Paul. Must be growing up worshiping Ace Frehley. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:09:48 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Quick notes.... At 12:56 PM 11/10/2004 -0800, you wrote: >Jason: > > Alembic may or may not have copied the body style at some point, but the > > Explorer was also a Gibson invention, which first came out in 1958, the > > same year as the Flying V, the year of stupid guitar body shapes it seems. > >I dunno... when did those little boxy headless Steinbergers come out? The basses in 1980, and the guitars in 1983. Eventually, Steinberger was bought out by (dum dum dum) Gibson. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:24:49 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Ken: > I always thought that the sharp-edges V's that Jackson made were > pretty hot. But in my opinion there's nothing like a Les Paul. Must > be growing up worshiping Ace Frehley. I'll admit, in person, a seriously well-made one like that is pretty cool. It may be cognitive dissonance, though... most time when I've seen a satanically-shaped guitar it's been some godawful knockoff sold to a prepubescent metalhead as a starter guitar. This was somethin' else. Still ain't tradin' in my semi-hollowbody for one any time soon, though. One of these, on the other hand... http://www.daisyrock.com/products/daisy/d_artist.htm - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:29:21 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Quick notes.... Courtesy of someone on the (surprise) Verlaine list: http://www.edromanguitars.com/featured/weird.htm Can anyone find me a manta-ray or stingray shaped guitar to go with my new band name? - -Rex Broome (skull-shaped guitar and flying-v vocal, Skates & Rays) - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:38:55 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Top 5 Bachman, Michael wrote: > > The Teardrop Explodes Not bloody likely. From what I remember of Copey's autobiog, he and Balfe split on mutal "I will kill you if I ever see you again" terms. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:47:12 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Southpaw & Maxwell's? I am going to both Maxwell's and Southpaw, who else is going to these shows? I don't know what the plan prior to Southpaw is, I will be at Tim Reed's. As far as Sunday, does anyone want to get together for dinner prior to the show? Max ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:31:50 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Mission Accomplished! On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:54:21 -0800, Tom Clark wrote: > Next up: Conrad Burns named new Commerce Secretary. And Montgomery Burns as Energy Secretary! - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:37:49 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Quick notes.... On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:19:07 -0800, Rex Broome wrote: > > axe. I think they were all 1960's era Gibson models. What are the drawbacks > > to them, don't they stay in tune or are they harder to play? > Bob Mould and Neil Young both played 'em at one time A threeway with a Flying V? Wait... >... or another. Oh. - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:46:02 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Quick notes.... On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:29:21 -0800, Rex Broome wrote: > Courtesy of someone on the (surprise) Verlaine list: > > http://www.edromanguitars.com/featured/weird.htm What the hell...is that first one GANDALF's guitar or something? Also, re the "Washburn Culprit" photo: someone should tell these folks that it's more effective if the "hot" model hasn't been smoking weed all afternoon first... How many tries do you think it took her to stand up after that shoot? - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:55:22 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Mission Accomplished! On Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 2fs wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:54:21 -0800, Tom Clark wrote: > > > Next up: Conrad Burns named new Commerce Secretary. > > And Montgomery Burns as Energy Secretary! And Conrad Bain as President? Now HE could unite! - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #323 ********************************