From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #298 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 20 2004 Volume 13 : Number 298 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 2 weeks to go to the election, will all the newly registered voters make a difference? [Tom Cl] Tropical Flesh Mandala [Tom Clark ] Re: 2 weeks to go to the election, will all the newly registered voters make a difference? [Jeff Dwarf] RE: Arcade Fire for Jolie Holland [51% Canadian Content] ["Bachman, Micha] RE: Arcade Fire [Eb ] Re: 2 weeks to go to the election, will all the newly registered voters make a difference? [FSThomas ] Re: Arcade Fire for Jolie Holland [51% Canadian Content] [Aaron Mandel ] Re: pre-reap? [2fs ] Am I going to hell for liking Muse? ["The Mammal Brain" ] Re: It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) [2fs ] Blame Canada [Eb ] Re: Blame Canada [bisontentacle ] Re: Arcade Fire [Vendren ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:41:18 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: 2 weeks to go to the election, will all the newly registered voters make a difference? On Oct 20, 2004, at 6:16 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Marc Alberts wrote: > >>> Also, I don't see anything wrong with showing your ID when you vote. >>> It just proves you are who you say you are when they cross your name >>> off in the book. Your name isn't on your ballot. >> >> I don't understand the problem with that, either. Seems to be about >> the >> best way to ensure that there is a minimum of voter fraud. > > I don't have a problem with showing ID either ... but it should be > noted > that many states do NOT require it. Maryland, for example, only > requires > you to show ID if you registered by mail and this is your first time > voting since you registered. Each state has its own rules, but I get > the > impression that most are similar. (This probably dates back to the > time > just after the revolution, when most people lived in small towns where > everyone knew everyone else, and documentary proof of ID was rare or > nonexistent anyway. I personally don't think it makes sense anymore; > but > then, neither does the Electoral College, and THAT is still law > too....) > With all the hubbub lately about voter fraud, etc, I was just picturing a scenario where a whole bunch of ne'er-do-wells line up outside the polling place before it opened, then storm in and all vote the same way, taking any name on the registration list to do so. Then when the legit voters stroll in they find they have already voted! I've never had to show ID since my neighbor volunteers to staff the local polling place, but I was surprised that it wasn't required nationwide. - -tc, who's waterbed sprung a leak last night. Not a pleasant way to wake up at 4AM! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:48:13 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Tropical Flesh Mandala Lying there on the beach... http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3070756a10,00.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:17:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: 2 weeks to go to the election, will all the newly registered voters make a difference? FSThomas wrote: > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Except that once they set the membership of the House > of > > Representatives at a fixed number (435), less populace > > states have gained an increasing disproportionate > amount of > > say in the Electoral College. The Electoral College no > > longer ensures that smaller states will not be ignored; > > instead, it enables a tyranny of the minority. > > Arguably so. The number of Electorates is dictated now > by the census, I believe, hence the states of Florida > and California wielding such ungodly amounts of power. New York and Texas have larger populations than Florida, though they get mentioned less since they are fait accomplis, whereas Florida is still in play, assuming the election is legitimate this time. And as much power as CA, TX, NY etc may have, they are underrepresented in the electoral college based on their populations relative to the country overall. Giving smaller and medium states too much power is not an acceptable remedy to the "problem" of too many people preferring to live in too few places. > Placing anything on a Federal level up to a simple > majority vote--be it election of the President to > Constitutional reform--is a plain *bad* idea, though. A single nationally elected office on a majority vote is hardly equivolent to putting something like Constitutional ammendments up for simple majority votes. > If you want to see your rights whittled away, the > fastest way to do it is to switch to a majority rule > system. Under that system gone would be the protection > afforded to minorities (that's any minority, be it > black, Jewish, foot fetishist, what have you). That's why you have a system of checks and balances. By giving small states disproportionately too much power, we no longer have balance. > > ...it's time to fix that flaw within the document, > > just as we recognized that blacks are whole people > rather > > that just 60% and that women are people and.... > > Do you honestly think that any of those amendments you > mentioned have > been ratified--much less considered--had they been left > to a popular > vote? Ice cube's chance in Hell, boy-o. This is an irrelevant statement. No one has said that constitutional ammendments should be subject to simple majority votes. > > Whereas now, if you live in California or Texas or New > > York -- the three most populace states -- and you want > > to see a Presidential candidate (outside of > > fundraisers), move to Nevada. > > Heh. Actually Ohio's been the playground for the Man Who > Would Be King (and King Again) lately. Nevada has been in play though as well, and is next to California whereas Ohio is farther east. ===== "[The Bush administration] deceived us about the weapons of mass destruction, that's true. We were taken for a ride." -- President Aleksander Kwasniewski, Poland "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:23:41 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Arcade Fire for Jolie Holland [51% Canadian Content] Stewart wrote: >* Jolie Holland "Escondido" - a folk/blues Bjork, with perhaps that jazz >chanteuse thing going on too (but not in a boring smooth [think D. >Krallzzzzzzz] way). Formerly the voice of the Be Good Tanyas, so got her >start in Canada. Couldn't agree with you more Stewart on Diana Krall. She was pretty decent back in the late 90's though, especially on her "All For You" Nat King Cole Trio dedication album. Now I'll listen to Stacey Kent, Tierney Sutton, Karrin Allyson, Cassandra Wilson, etc before I'll listen to recent Diana Krall. The CBC Radio 2 program Jazz Beat, which is on Sunday 8-10 PM, had a really tasty live recording session of Tierney Sutton this past Sunday. Check out After Hours, also on CBC Radio 2 Monday-Friday 10-Midnight for some more great jazz from Canada. Michael B. NP Can - Soundtracks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:19:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Arcade Fire Stewart: * Arcade Fire "Funeral" - think harsh-edged Roxy Music. Lovely, complex, slightly over the top rock. And from Montreal, too. - ----------------------------- This band seems to have quickly accumulated a whole lot of "buzz," amongst the hipster crowd. I keep seeing mentions of them on another mailing list I read. I have the CD...gave it sort of a casual "car" listen. Seems interesting, but wasn't immediately blown away. Need to play it again. I've been big-time catching up on music-listening lately...I have a huge stack of unplayed CDs which piled up during The Grieving Period. The better stuff I've played, so far (in rough order of preference): "Velvet Goldmine" soundtrack David Bowie - Reality King Crimson - The Power to Believe (MUCH better than The ConstruKCtion of Light) The Essex Green - The Long Goodbye Placebo - Sleeping with Ghosts (surprisingly, this is their best album, and I've been wondering whether it was time to give up on them) Eels - Shootenanny! (also better than I expected, given that it seemed D.O.A. promotionwise) Sam Phillips - A Boot and a Shoe (the "cabaret" thing works for her much better on this one than on the previous Nonesuch record) Ed Harcourt - From Every Sphere (though I don't like it nearly as well as the first album) Tortoise - Standards Fruit Bats - Mouthfuls Crowded House - Afterglow Lots more to go. Some letdowns: Neil Finn/Try Whistling This, Enon/Hocus Pocus, Blur/Think Tank, the Lonesome Organist/Forms and Follies, the Thorns/the Thorns Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:32:56 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: 2 weeks to go to the election, will all the newly registered voters make a difference? While we're all geared up squawking about the 'lection, this spiffy little article from that meddling former Florida Secretary of State, Katherine Harris might fit nice into the fray. [+3 bonus points for slamming Carter] http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20041019-083926-3744r.htm The facts on Florida Having family living within minutes of Jimmy Carter's hometown of Plains, Ga., I have long respected the former President as a man of honor and integrity.Regrettably, his recent partisan broadside regarding Florida's elections system did not reflect his reputation for probity and fairness. Mr. Carter knows better than to treat Florida as a unique and isolated example of election difficulties in 2000.Seven states experienced worse rates of "undervotes" and "overvotes" than Florida (the rate for his home state of Georgia was 3.5 percent, as compared to Florida's 2.9 percent. The rate for Cook County, Ill., which includes Chicago, was 6 percent).Georgia's Democratic secretary of state, Cathy Cox, testified in March 2001 before the Senate Commerce Committee that, "if the presidential margin had been razor-thin in Georgia, and if our elections systems had undergone the same microscopic scrutiny that Florida endured, we would have fared no better.And perhaps we would have fared even worse." Within months following the 2000 presidential election, I proposed landmark election-reform legislation, almost all of which the Florida legislature passed and Gov. Jeb Bush signed into law. This legislation outlawed punch cards, while appropriating $24 million for state-of-the-art voting systems and $6 million for voter education, and poll worker training.In 2002, I spearheaded Florida's adoption of historic civil-rights legislation that forcefully addressed the issues of voting machine and polling place accessibility for persons with disabilities. Professor Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia praised our 2001 reforms, commenting that "what Florida is doing is leading the way for the nation."Moreover, Stephen Ansolabehere and Charles Stewart III of the Caltech-MIT Voting Technology Project found "clear evidence of improvement" in our state's elections as a direct result of our reforms, concluding that the new voting technology "substantially reduced" the number of undervotes and overvotes. They declared that "efforts to improve voting technology in Florida were not in vain." Rather than recognizing these achievements, Mr. Carter repeats discredited myths about the 2000 presidential election in Florida without providing evidence to support his claims. He alleges that "several thousand ballots of African Americans were thrown out on technicalities," when 1) the American tradition of ballot secrecy prevents us from knowing the race of a voter who cast a spoiled ballot, and 2)no shred of evidence exists to support the far-left accusation that "thousands of African Americans" were prevented from voting because of Florida's effort to remove felons and other ineligible voters from the registration rolls, which was required by 1998 legislation sponsored by two Democratic legislators and signed into law by Democratic Gov. Lawton Chiles. In fact, during the 18 months of litigation that followed Election 2000, only two persons testified that they were unable to vote in that election because their names erroneously appeared on the mandated list of potentially ineligible voters. Nevertheless, because one qualified voter's loss of this sacred right constitutes an anathema to me,I made certain that the groundbreaking election reforms that Florida enacted in 2001 included "provisional ballots" (enabling individuals whose registration status is challenged at the polls to vote and have that vote counted upon later verification of their eligibility). President Carter accuses Gov. Bush, Secretary of State Glenda Hood and me of nursing "strong political biases that prevent necessary reforms."Aside from the fact that Mr. Carter cannot cite one instance where I did not follow the law precisely in 2000, his analysis fails the test of fundamental fairness. Mr. Carter assails my role as one of eight honorary co-chairs for the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign in Florida without acknowledging that statewide elected officials (including secretaries of state) have often served in this capacity.Florida Attorney General Bob Butterworth, a Democrat who injected himself into the recount controversy, served as Al Gore's Florida campaign chair (and actively ran Mr. Gore's 2000 presidential campaign from his office).My predecessor as secretary of state chaired Sen. Phil Gramm's 1996 presidential campaign.Democratic secretaries of state in battleground states either served as Mr. Gore's campaign co-chair or actively campaigned for the former vice president in 2000. Most shockingly, Mr. Carter exclaims that current Florida Secretary of State Glenda Hood "was a highly partisan elector for George W. Bush in 2000" without mentioning that Georgia's Democratic Secretary of State served as an elector for Al Gore during the very same election.Based on the standards he sets, not even Mr. Carter's home state would meet "basic international requirements for a fair election."Yet, he limits his call for "maximum public scrutiny" to Florida. I choose to believe that Mr. Carter is radically misinformed rather than actively seeking to de-legitimize any outcome that does not deliver Florida's 27 electoral votes to John Kerry.Either way, he has not enhanced his image as an elder statesman whose opinions Americans can trust. Rep. Katherine Harris is a freshman Republican congrersswoman and former secretary of state of Florida. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:41:05 -0700 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) Ken: > Has Robyn ever covered this? I saw Caetano Veloso tonight. > Excellent. If not, he should. With the Soft Boys. That song remains mind-pummeling, what, 40 years later? Right up there with "Black Angel's Death Songs" in terms of sheer WTF, how did that happen, at that point in time? I'm reading the Dylan autobio right now. Weird. - -Rex - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:46:04 -0700 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: Tropical Flesh Mandala > Lying there on the beach... > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3070756a10,00.html I knew there would be a reason to keep up with this thread, too... - -Rex Broome (guitar and vocal, Farewell Spit) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:32:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Arcade Fire for Jolie Holland [51% Canadian Content] On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > * Arcade Fire "Funeral" - think harsh-edged Roxy Music. Lovely, complex, > slightly over the top rock. And from Montreal, too. My first listen, I was unimpressed. My second, I enjoyed much more. My third, I spent jotting down notes on every band they reminded me of at various points, and the list is so relentlessly hip it hurts: Modest Mouse, Neutral Milk Hotel, Bright Eyes, Wilco, maybe Radiohead. But I like the results better than I like half of those bands. Oddly, I felt like they saved the best songs for the end; I think tracks 8 and 9 were my favorites. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:26:44 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Hogs and Heffers and Bitches and Bastards Both my parents ride their own Harleys. Both have white-collar managerial jobs; and except for a penchant for leather and Harley-brand T-shirts, they do not look like Neanderthals. (Although my father was once a "hired thug," back in the days when he was patrolling the streets of Allentown, intimidating voters and serving as a target of ridicule for people like Capuchin.) Most of their friends are riders, and all of them also fit the same description; many of the women own their own bikes. Owning a motorcycle makes you part of a community; and within that community, Harley owners form an especially tight sub-group. It's one of those charming American things, like being a Deadhead, or owning a Volkswagen -- Harley owners have an immediate bond that frequently crosses race, class, and culture. (Though most are certainly white middle-class male Republicans.) As far as language goes, if I can get all pedantic for a moment.... Terms like "bitch," "pussy," and "bastard" are *innately* gendered, and like all "loaded" words, have different value states within a broad range of contexts. Generally they're used negatively; but occasionally they may connote a kind of admiration, such as, "You amazing bitch!" or "What a magnificent bastard!" (And of course, "Man, that's a bitchin' Camaro!) Of course, with "pussy," context is everything, and the difference between "Oh baby, let me have some of your sweet pussy," "Gotta get me some pussy tonight," and "Come on, Cletus, don't be such a pussy!" are self-evident. To follow Barbara, all these words have a certain origin -- a female dog, a feline, and a male child born out of wedlock. It's pretty obvious how usage has shifted over the years, changing metaphorical weight, leaving us with the words we have today. Like all gendered terms, when applied to members of the opposite sex, they take on extra connotations. Although I have never heard a female called a "bastard," doing so would gain a certain resonance by invoking a set of tendencies generally associated with the male. (Other male-specific terms are "prick," dick," "cocksucker," "motherfucker," and even "asshole.") These days, "bitch" is commonly used to refer to men, whether it's an effeminate man having a hissy fit, a jailhouse synonym for punk or prag, or a word charged with hierarchical "ownership," such as "I just *owned* you, bitch!", which I commonly tell my friend when fragging him in Unreal Tournament. In all these cases, there is a distinct feminization; in the first case, the man has characteristics generally associated with women; in the next, it refers to a certain hard-edged and dehumanizing view of all women as being "bitches," and serves an obviously psychological purpose of shoring up one's own sense of maleness; and in the third, it's a term of affection and friendship, albeit one with sexist roots and simulating a sort of contempt. "Pussy" is similar. When applied to a male, as it usually is, it's emasculating: "Don't be like a (stereotypical) girl." Obviously it speaks directly to sexual differences, and is the mirror image of "Have some balls." Personally, I think all these words are useful, and certainly descriptive -- they speak to an essence of cultural truthfulness. If you've never met a woman who was a total bitch, or a man who was a complete bastard, or a guy who was just a big pussy, I'd be very surprised, and guess that for you, "political correctness" probably trumps your emotional sense of human appraisal. (And let's face it -- how many times have you called a guy an "asshole" or a "dick?") This is not to say that all woman are bitches, or that a gut acting like a pussy isn't really doing the "right" thing, and so on -- obviously! But I really don't think that its a tenable claim that these words have no gender values; nor would I hate to see they unfairly reviled out of a sense of sexual politics. As I said before, context is everything.... - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:54:38 -0700 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: pre-reap? Stewart: > but it is a grade of file. I used one yesterday that was stamped with > the brand "Sunflower Bastard". Which might be a good name for a band, or > Robyn's next album. I knew there would eventually be a reason for my keeping up with this thread. - -Rex Broome (guitar and vocal, Sunflower Bastard) - -- "Maybe baby election twelve who I really am!" - -Miranda Mellbye Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:41:40 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: pre-reap? On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:02:46 -0500, gshell@americangroupisp.com > On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:27 , 2fs sent: > >"Not that I care as a non-motorcyclist, but I don't suppose all > >motorcyclists are neanderthal sexist pigs, are they? (Although judging > >from the crowd at the Harley 100th anniversary annoyance in Milwaukee > >last year, an awful lot of them are...)" > > 'Neanderthal Sexist Pigs'. So you were including in this description, women as > well? That would make you the first person I have ever heard describe any woman as > a neanderthal sexist pig. I'm not sure if you're being rhetorically obtuse on purpose or accidentally, but...here's what you wrote: "When you used the term 'neanderthal', you were referring only to men. It is not a gender specific term, yet you used it as such. Please explain?" I thought it was obvious that just because one uses a word to describe (say) men, that doesn't make it a gendered or gender-specific term, nor is there anything wrong with using it. "Left-handed" is not gender-specific; if I say "there was a table of three left-handed women" I'm not using a gender-specific term, even though I'm describing women, and even though I could then say, "and amusingly, across the room was a table of three left-handed men." Duh. > I did hear a > girl call another a girl a 'pussy bitch' once. A few of us onlookers just glanced > at each other and shook our heads. Then we started offering more appropriate and > fitting insults for each of them to use. Kind of you. But as long as you're asking, the word "pussy" to describe women is generally used collectively; as in: "going out to get some pussy." That's the insulting usage I was referring to. Still don't get all the rhetorical leaping about trying to deny the elementary and obvious point that "bitch" and "pussy" as used to describe or refer to women generally are sexist and obnoxious... - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:43:42 -0700 From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Am I going to hell for liking Muse? hope not. i've just posted my endorsement of bush to , if anyone is interested. that's been happening all over the west coast -- same company, i think. don't know about other regions. see . we do so all the time at work. actually, i learnt it from *Shut Up, Little Man!*: PETER: You dirty little bitch. You-- RAYMOND: Don't call me a "bitch". PETER: YOU ARE A BITCH!! <"US Solo Tour Email your song requests for Robyn's US tour here. Everything considered, nothing guaranteed."> just submitted my requests for "Autumn Sea" and "As Lemons Chop". i bid you all do the same (would this be considered stuffing the ballot box?), as, to my knowledge, he's never played either one live (and, o' course, they both rock like a magicus). of course, having listened to the october 9th gig, it seems his voice is almost completely shot. so it may be too late... no truer words have you ever spoken, ferris! noted. by the way, somebody has posted an Interpol show from last month to alt.binaries.music.shn. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:46:40 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) > Has Robyn ever covered this? I saw Caetano Veloso tonight. > Excellent. It was with a string orchestra, and mostly American songs > from his new album, A Foreign Sound. Though I don't have any of the > Dylan albums this song is on, I swear I've heard it before and wonder > if Robyn has done it, since the Byrds have also done it. Caetano also > did Come As You Are, which is good, since I don't like Nirvana and > don't like that song, but it sounded nice from Caetano. > > -Ken I saw Veloso at the Vancouver Jazz Festival about three years ago. He was brilliant - I strongly recommend people check his live show out if they can. Most of the show I saw was sung in Brazilian Portuguese, and covered a lot of his Brazilian hits from the 70s, which was great since that's the stuff I know best. His one English song was a slow cover of the Beatle's "Help!" Palle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:46:38 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:41:05 -0700, Rex Broome wrote: > Ken: > > Has Robyn ever covered this? > > If not, he should. With the Soft Boys. That song remains > mind-pummeling, what, 40 years later? Another entry in...The Bob Files... So, yesterday I put on _Bringing It All Back Home_ in the car. Got about halfway through it before I got home, maybe a couple tracks after "Maggie's Farm," ate dinner, watched _Gilmore Girls_...which featured "Maggie's Farm" (and an enormous poster of Bob) in one scene. Woke up this morning (had the blues so bad...oh wait, wrong post), read this post about "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" - and of course, that song was waiting for me in the car. Anyone care to tell me what I"m going to hear later today? - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:48:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Blame Canada [PS How is Eszter "Stranger Than Paradise" Balint involved??] From: Velena [mailto:fortywatt@athens.net ] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 3:19 PM All of camper van beethoven's guitars and violin and our merch got stolen last night in Montreal. If anybody has any contacts up here, Tell them to look for our stuff in stores. or hunt down the robbers and kill them. jonathan's violin with stickers all over it jonathan's 1971 strat (sunburst) (with a couple stickers, etc.) victor's 1969 precision bass (natural finish) david's green charvel surfcaster david's black jackson surfcaster a couple ibanez acoustics johnny's black eric clapton strat greg's frankenstein strat (black) and tele (tobacco sunbusrst) (warmoth esp or something) plus mike duclos' precision bass and ezster balint's gibson sg and danelectro semi acoustic. maybe more.. not sure yet. a few tshirts and a road case of cds. including the email list we collected last night, preventing this from going out to montreal fans! _______________________________________________________ velena vego pitch-a-tent records pitchatent@athens.net 706 549-9997 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:54:04 -0400 From: bisontentacle Subject: Re: Blame Canada one time at band camp, Eb (ElBroome@earthlink.net) said: >[PS How is Eszter "Stranger Than Paradise" Balint involved??] she's the opening act touring with them. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:50:01 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: Arcade Fire > The Essex Green - The Long Goodbye I love that album. Very Belle and Sebastian-ey, but with a real American vibe. I think "The Great Cassiopia" was one of the best singles released by anyone last year. > Fruit Bats - Mouthfuls Another one I really liked, though it took a while to really grow on me. Palle ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #298 ********************************