From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #293 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, October 17 2004 Volume 13 : Number 293 Today's Subjects: ----------------- the blatz's ally ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: the blatz's ally [Tom Clark ] reap ["Michael Wells" ] Re: the blatz's ally [2fs ] Re: the blatz's ally [Jeff Dwarf ] Flanagan & Nightfall [imanol ugarte ] Re: the blatz's ally [Tom Clark ] Here comes President God again [steve ] pre-reap? [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:07:37 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: the blatz's ally I was in Wild East CDs today, and the owner, Johnny Rockomet, is a huge Robyn fan. He was playing The Sadies' latest, and was about to cue up Spooked when he admitted that he really didn't like it at all. Seems he was a huge Egyptians fan, and is looking for more from Robyn like that. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:01:16 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the blatz's ally On Saturday, October 16, 2004, at 08:10PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: >I was in Wild East CDs today, and the owner, Johnny Rockomet, is a huge >Robyn fan. He was playing The Sadies' latest, and was about to cue up >Spooked when he admitted that he really didn't like it at all. Seems he >was a huge Egyptians fan, and is looking for more from Robyn like that. I meant to mention it while the debating was in full swing, but this, the Rolling Stone review, and the fact that Dylan played Santa Clara University last night reminded me that even though Bawb is some 12 years Robyn's senior, he still rocks harder and more consistently. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:53:30 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: reap Pierre Salinger, 79 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:38:04 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: the blatz's ally On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:01:16 -0700, Tom Clark wrote: > I meant to mention it while the debating was in full swing, but this, the Rolling Stone review, and the fact that Dylan played Santa Clara University last night reminded me that even though Bawb is some 12 years Robyn's senior, he still rocks harder and more consistently. Comparing someone to Bob Dylan: that's not setting an absurdly high standard, is it? Naw... What's with all this "rocking" stuff? You'd think we were talking about Whitesnake or something. Robyn's *never* rocked with any straightforward roll - even his loudest, noisiest stuff (say, on _Can of Bees_) is rather sideways and doesn't pretend to inspire legions of mulleted trailer-park denizens to loft lit lighters skyward. I mean, okay, some people are bored with the quietness of his most recent work. Fine - but somehow expecting him to be someone he's not, or making absurd comparisons to legends ("He's a nice guy, but he's a total asshole compared to Jesus Christ") is a bit much. In sum, fuck you Tom Clark. ;) - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: the blatz's ally 2fs wrote: > I mean, okay, some people are bored with the quietness of > his most recent work. Fine - but somehow expecting him to > be someone he's not, or making absurd comparisons to > legends ("He's a nice guy, but he's a total asshole > compared to Jesus Christ") is a bit much. And while I realize _Luxor_ was released in the interim (though isn't it pretty much demos recorded during the 90s, more or less the sequel to _You & Oblivion_), it's not like the album _Spooked_ is following up was that mellow. Some reunion album with his old, loud retrodelic band from the late 70s/1980. Had that songs about the strings on it.... That's not to say that people aren't entitled to be disappointed with Spooked. But it's not like Spooked is the second, let along third or fourth, straight quiet "proper" album. Even if you don't want to count a Soft Boys album, _Jewels for Sophia_ wasn't exactly a folk record, regardless of what other virtues it may or may not have. ===== "[The Bush administration] deceived us about the weapons of mass destruction, that's true. We were taken for a ride." -- President Aleksander Kwasniewski, Poland "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:17:16 +0200 From: imanol ugarte Subject: Flanagan & Nightfall Hello, Long time since my last post, nothing special to say, actually. Well, I received my preordered Spooked 2 weeks ago: its genuine Hitchcock, less inspired than Luxor in my opinion (i mean less emotional stuff). Anyway theres a gem Id put along with the best of IODOT or Eye: Flanagansong. To me stands at the same level with Glass Hotel, Linctus House, Heliotrope, Autumn is your last chance, Youve Got and some others which have such kind of ...lets say endless circular progression . Just perfect in this season. I am listening to old stuff too: Hangman Beautiful Daughter by The Incredible String Band. I often play 60s psychedelic records, but hadnt the chance to listening to this one until the last month: here we have several extraordinary songs : Koeeoaddi There, A Very Celular Song, Three Is A Green Crown and the last one, the gorgeous and enigmatic Nightfall, also covered by Robyn. On the other hand, just got Andy Partridges Fuzzy Warbles 5 & 6. Awsome compilation of demos and unreleased songs with very good sound. Agur, Imanol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:18:28 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the blatz's ally On Oct 16, 2004, at 10:38 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:01:16 -0700, Tom Clark wrote: > >> I meant to mention it while the debating was in full swing, but this, >> the Rolling Stone review, and the fact that Dylan played Santa Clara >> University last night reminded me that even though Bawb is some 12 >> years Robyn's senior, he still rocks harder and more consistently. > > Comparing someone to Bob Dylan: that's not setting an absurdly high > standard, is it? Naw... > Just thought it was ironic since Robyn *is* compared to Dylan quite often, and he's noted him as a large influence on his own career. > What's with all this "rocking" stuff? You'd think we were talking > about Whitesnake or something. Robyn's *never* rocked with any > straightforward roll - even his loudest, noisiest stuff (say, on _Can > of Bees_) is rather sideways and doesn't pretend to inspire legions of > mulleted trailer-park denizens to loft lit lighters skyward. > Well, there's Rock and there's RAWK. I was referring to the former - in the "electric beat combo" sense, rather than the pyrotechnic hairband sense. > ...somehow expecting him to be someone he's not, > or making absurd comparisons to legends ("He's a nice guy, but he's a > total asshole compared to Jesus Christ") is a bit much. > Jesus Christ was a sham. > In sum, fuck you Tom Clark. ;) > Ah, civilized discourse - it's what we're famous for! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:34:53 -0500 From: steve Subject: Here comes President God again Here's a fun read - > In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that > the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications > director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. > He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me > something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I > now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency. > > The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the > reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe > that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible > reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment > principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the > world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and > when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that > reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other > new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will > sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be > left to just study what we do.'' - - Steve - ---------- Americans sometimes wonder why so many non-Americans view the United States as a bully. Are they jealous, resentful, irrationally afraid? Perhaps. But there's a simpler explanation for the widespread perception that the United States is vindictive, arrogant, and petty. Under this administration, it's true. - Peter Beinart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:58:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: pre-reap? [Pillion? I've never seen that word before. Huh.] Pop star critically ill after crash By Thair Shaikh MARC ALMOND, the singer who came to fame in the pop duo Soft Cell in the Eighties, was in a critical condition in a London hospital last night after suffering severe head injuries in a motorbike crash. Almond, 45, whose 1981 hit Tainted Love reached No 1 in the charts, was a pillion passenger on a Suzuki motorbike that collided with a Vauxhall car in the City yesterday evening. The motorcyclist, who was not named, also suffered serious injuries although they were not life threatening. The car driver was not hurt. Mr Almond was taken to the Royal London Hospital in East London where he underwent surgery to his head and neck. He was in intensive care last night. A man who saw the accident said: There was an almighty bang as the bike crashed with the car. The motorcyclist and passenger were thrown off into the air and landed in the road. There was blood everywhere. I heard someone say it was Marc Almond, he looked like he had done a lot of damage to his head. The paramedics were with him for a long time, he was unconscious. They took off his helmet, kept checking him over and then took him off in an ambulance. A spokesman for the City of London Police, said that the accident was being investigated. [clip] ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #293 ********************************