From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #281 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 6 2004 Volume 13 : Number 281 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Spooked again [Vendren ] Re: SPoOKed again [2fs ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V13 #280 ["Larry Tucker" ] Pop Song '05 ["Rex Broome" ] Smiley Smile [Mike Swedene ] Re: Any comments on... [Jon Lewis ] RE: Smiley Smile ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Any comments on... ["Roberta Cowan" ] Fwd: [bt-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: robyn hitchcock w/deni bonet 04/14/95 arn arbor, michigan [bisonte] Re: Any comments on... [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Pop Song '05 [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Pop Song '05 (Long Live A-minor!) ["Rex Broome" ] Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) ["Rex Broome" ] Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) [Miles Goosens ] Re: [bt-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: robyn hitchcock w/deni bonet 04/14/95 ann arbor, michigan [Martin J Fioretti ] Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) [bisontentacle ] Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) ["Rex Broome" ] Re: Pop Song '05 [Mike Swedene ] Re: Any comments on... [Aaron Mandel ] in-store-a-rama [bisontentacle ] reap ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Any comments on... [Vendren ] Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) [Miles Goosens ] Re: Any comments on... [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Pop Song '05 [Sebastian Hagedorn ] another reap [James Dignan ] Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: another reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Any comments on... [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:09:32 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: Spooked again From: "Rex Broome" > >>Maturity is an iffy proposition for any rock and roller, > >>especially one whose eccentric lyrics and positive energy > >>have always seemed eternally youthful. > > Erm... I dunno, Robyn's always seemed *older* than he is, to judge from even some of those "absurdist" lyrics. Probably just me, though. Right? I would agree - I thought it was an odd comment. In all, it was one of those reviews where I agree with the reviewer's ultimate assessment of the album, but for none of the same reasons. Palle NP: Stan Ridgway - Snakebite: Blacktop Ballads and Fugitive Songs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 13:41:06 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: SPoOKed again On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:33:15 -0800, Rex Broome wrote: > I've noticed this had become the default capitalization for this release... is that ultimately how we'll distinguish between the "new" version and the theoretical "original"? Not if I can help it. I find the recent trend of typographic foofaroll annoying - people incapable of distinguishing between graphic design (the way the word "smile" is printed on the cover) and the words are used in sentences and in type. Several sources of blame leap to mind - goofy internet cap schemes, corporate intercapitalization, etc. At one point, it seemed like about half the folks on a certain e-mail list were lower-casing their names - in some cases, I know, they weren't insistent upon it; it was more an effect of incipient carpal tunnel or something - but like high-school poets lower-casing the first person singular pronoun, it's become practically a marker of fatuously gestural "individuality." Okay, I'll stop ranting now and take my meds ;) - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:55:23 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V13 #280 > Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:41:27 -0400 > From: "Brian" > Subject: Recent Purchases > > Me: > > Recent purchases: > > SMiLE > > Chameleons UK: Strange Times > > Best of Leonard Cohen > > and under Larry Tucker's good review: Chris Stamey- Travels in the > South. This is my favorite post dB's solo Stamey release. > Yeah it's Big Star meets Brian Wilson and Phil Spector was in the room. I almost like it as much as the near perfect "Fireworks". It's a wonderful return after nearly decade away. Glad you liked it Nuppy. Coming up Sunday Stamey will be sitting in with Yo La Tengo at the Cat's Cradle. Mitch Easter too! Should be fun. Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:12:59 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Any comments on... The new REM? Tom Waits? Elvis Costello? Nick Cave? Wow -- add Robyn and Bjork to that, and it's been a great few weeks! I just picked up "Around the Sun," and I've just finished my first listen. On first blush, it sounds like the "missing" CD between "Monster" and "New Adventures in Hi Fi." Definitely better than "Reveal" or "Up;" but not as strong as I was hoping.... I've yet to play the new Tom Waits; but damn -- Nick, Nick, Nick! What a fucking great album.... - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:43:04 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Pop Song '05 Hey guys... listening to the new R.E.M. record. Remember back in 1988 when Michael Stipe was making a lot of noise trying to stop some guy named Bush from winning the election? And then R.E.M. released an album right before November, seemingly to throw some attention on Stipe's agitating? And the record wasn't very good, and Bush won? Well... ..don't let John Kerrey listen to this album, is all I can say so far. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 15:44:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Smiley Smile Brian Wilson SMILE special is on Showtime tonight from 9:00 pm until 11:00 OM if any one wants to watch that as opposed to the debate. mike ===== - ------------------------------------------------- "there is water at the bottom of the ocean" - talking heads _________________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:53:53 -0400 From: Jon Lewis Subject: Re: Any comments on... On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, at 05:12 PM, The Great Quail wrote: > The new REM? Tom Waits? Elvis Costello? Nick Cave? > > And what about the new Blue Nile rekkid? I'm curious whether it's closer to A Walk Across The Rooftops (sign me up!) or Peace At Last (I'll pass...) Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:03:41 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: Smiley Smile >From: Mike Swedene >Subject: Smiley Smile >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 15:44:30 -0700 (PDT) >Brian Wilson SMILE special is on Showtime tonight >from 9:00 pm until 11:00 OM if any one wants to watch >that as opposed to the debate. This is the only Showtime programming that has ever interested me, I guess I'll wait for the DVD. KCRW has a good Smile special archived from this Sunday. I read a great article online about the album today . Max _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 19:04:26 -0400 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: Any comments on... On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, at 05:12 PM, The Great Quail wrote: > The new REM? Tom Waits? Elvis Costello? Nick Cave? > And how about that new U2 single, eh? My goodness, it rocks! Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:14:15 -0400 From: bisontentacle Subject: Fwd: [bt-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: robyn hitchcock w/deni bonet 04/14/95 arn arbor, michigan >A new torrent has been uploaded to EZT. > >Title: robyn hitchcock w/deni bonet 04/14/95 arn arbor, michigan >Size: 829.40 MB >Category: Singer/Songwriter >Uploaded by: kevinengland > >Description >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Robyn Hitchcock w/Deni Bonet >Fri., 14 Apr. 1995 >The Ark >Ann Arbor, Michigan US >SBD>DAT>CDR>EAC>shn >3cds > > Set 1(early) >Surgery >The Ghost Ship >Insect Mother >Bass >Each of Her Silver Wands >Egyptian Cream >De Chirico Street >Sinister But She Was Happy >One Long Pair of Eyes >Direct Me to the Cheese >I'm Only You >The Yip Song >I Am Not Me >Autumn is Your Last Chance >Driving Aloud (Radio Storm) >Beautiful Queen >---------------------------------------- > Set 2 (late) >Tuning >Queen of Eyes >Madonna of the Wasps >Cherry-Red Daughter >Chinese Bones >I Used To Say I Love You >Egyptian Cream >De Chirico Street >Statue with a Walkman >Glass Hotel >Balloon Man >I Something You >Queen Elvis >------------------------------------------ >The Yip Song >I Am Not Me >She Doesn't Exist >Never Stop Bleeding >Driving Aloud (Radio Storm) >Only the Stones Remain >Beautiful Queen >Listening to the Higsons > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login). > >http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=8563&hit=1 > >Take care! > >easytree.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:18:51 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Any comments on... - -- The Great Quail is rumored to have mumbled on Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2004 17:12 Uhr -0400 regarding Any comments on...: > The new REM? > > I > just picked up "Around the Sun," and I've just finished my first listen. > On first blush, it sounds like the "missing" CD between "Monster" and > "New Adventures in Hi Fi." Definitely better than "Reveal" or "Up;" but > not as strong as I was hoping.... Huh? I never got why people in the US (and apparently only there!) are so down on "Reveal". I think it's way better than "Up". "Around The Sun", OTOH, has a couple of good songs (Leaving New York, The Outsiders, Wanderlust, Aftermath), but is generally mediocre and has, to my mind, the WORST R.E.M. SONG EVER! "Make It All OK" is godawful. To me it sounds like the kind of "rock ballad" that any MOR band could throw out. I had issues with "Everybody Hurts", but then I knew at least why they were writing a song like that. "Make It All OK" just baffles me - what happened? Oh well, I'm still looking forward to the concert in Ferbuary. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:22:06 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Pop Song '05 - -- Rex Broome is rumored to have mumbled on Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2004 14:43 Uhr -0800 regarding Pop Song '05: > And the record wasn't very good Automatic For The People wasn't very good?? You have a point with the new one, though ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:25:49 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Pop Song '05 (Long Live A-minor!) ...and man, it didn't get much better. I think I can say that the only person doing anything slightly interesting here is Stipe, and I'll probably spin this a few more times just to work out what he's saying... the words aren't bad, maybe even quite good, but it's really unfortunate that two of the lyrics that leapt out at me were the all-too-apt "This is where your rope trick started to get stale" and the even more succinct "Don't bore me!" In retrospect, I couldn't say whether this is better or worse than "Reveal", but this is the first time I've had an unreserved, unchallenged, unmitigated first reaction of "MEHHH" with a capital "M" to an R.E.M. record. I know I'm late to the party, guys, but I need to catch up, so pour me something strong. Goddamn Spooked sounds pretty good right about now. - -Rex Broome (guitar and vocal, The Good-Time Old-Style Holy-Shit-The-Church-Is-Better-Than-R.E.M.-This-Year String and Vocal Choir Quartet Group Players) - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:29:37 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Pop Song '05 On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:22:06 +0200, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- Rex Broome is rumored to have mumbled on > Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2004 14:43 Uhr -0800 regarding Pop Song '05: > > > And the record wasn't very good > > Automatic For The People wasn't very good?? Well, no, it wasn't. :-) But "1988," people, c'mon! In fact, IIRC, GREEN was released not in advance of the 1988 election but on election day itself. So between Bush I's inevitable triumph, early disenchantment with grad school (which I'd entered that August), and the realization on the third play of the day that R.E.M. had just released its first less-than-great album, it was a total bummer of a day. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:34:45 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) Sebastian: > Automatic For The People wasn't very good?? You have a point with the new > one, though ... Heh! I think you're joshin' me, but I did specify 1988, so we're talkin' "Green" here. Anyone wanna stick up for that one as a career high point? "Turn You Inside Out" was pretty good, and I used to love "The Wrong Child" before I found out it was so literal... otherwise that's a record full of songs that feel more useful than inspired or good. Oh, and the unnamed track... that's a good one. Jeez... I like the two new tracks on the "Best of" better than *any* of this stuff, and I though "Bad Day" was pretty lazy... - -Rex Broome (guitar and vocal, M.E.H.) - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:49:34 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) Rex: >Subj: Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) As in "year of release + 1," I'm assuming. Anyone else constantly surprised by how young bloggers in general are? I read a lot of baseball blogs, but unless it's Aaron Gleeman, who tells you all the time that he's a college student, there usually aren't a lot of markers about age, especially since most of the guys I read have a very good handle on baseball history and putting events in their proper historical context. I guess if it all sounds right, I just assume that they're within a 5-year standard deviation of my age (37). That's a big mistake, as you'll see... Anyway, I was reading a Hardball Times entry where a Yankees blogger and a Red Sox blogger have at ever so often, and the Red Sox blogger talked about how this year's Sox were the best Sox team of his lifetime, because he didn't have any memories of... At this point, I'm thinking these perfectly acceptable options for "Best Red Sox teams of my lifetime": * 1967, the "Impossible Dream" year, when they went to the W.S. and lost to the Cardinals. I was age 0 then, so I don't have a memory of it either. * 1975, the Sox team that lost to the Reds in seven games in one of the most memorable World Series of all time. * 1978, the year the Sox were way ahead of the Yankees, then got way behind, then came back at the end of the season to tie, only to lose the one game playoff in Fenway thanks to Bucky "****ing" Dent's homer off Mike Torrez. But the year he proffered, the one he couldn't remember because he was too young, was... wait for it... *1986.* (Y'know the ball rolling through Bill Buckner's wickets, that highlight you see any time the Sox are in the postseason or anywhere close to it? That was the year.) I could not have felt more ancient. I was a sophomore in college in '86, watching the games on TV in our dorm room with my legendary cousin/college roommate Rusty. Who let all those people born after the Carter Administration become adults, anyway? later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 19:56:11 -0400 From: Martin J Fioretti Subject: Re: [bt-easytree-org] NEW on EZT: robyn hitchcock w/deni bonet 04/14/95 ann arbor, michigan > >A new torrent has been uploaded to EZT. > >Title: robyn hitchcock w/deni bonet 04/14/95 arn arbor, michigan I am unable to do Bit Torrent. Anyone out there willing to do a B&P for this one? Apologies to any and all offended by my begging.... Regards, Martin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:22:49 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: REAP Just got home, tuned into the news and heard that Rodney Dangerfield passed away. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:24:01 -0400 From: bisontentacle Subject: Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) one time at band camp, Miles Goosens said: >(Y'know the ball rolling through Bill Buckner's wickets, that >highlight you see any time the Sox are in the postseason or anywhere >close to it? That was the year.) okay, i'm a pretty lax listowner but you sometimes have to lay down the law. going forward, under no circumstances shall bill b*ckner's name be mentioned on this list. end of discussion. woj p.s. i'm not kidding. p.p.s. well, maybe i am. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:36:34 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) Miles: > Rex: > >Subj: Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) > > As in "year of release + 1," I'm assuming. Yep... "Pop Song 89" having been pre-dated upon its release in 1988. Yeah, I'm stretching the convention to the breaking point... sorry... - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:23:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: Pop Song '05 rem -> Disappointing U2 (new Single) ->rocks, nice crunchy guitars and all that jazz. tom waits - waiting to hear mike np - vp debate ===== - ------------------------------------------------- "there is water at the bottom of the ocean" - talking heads _________________________________________________________ _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:44:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Any comments on... On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, The Great Quail wrote: > The new REM? Sucks! Okay, okay, there are parts I enjoyed, but they've pulled out of the un-R.E.M.-like rut they were in and turn out to have been in a very R.E.M.-like at the same time. As in, there's a bite in Stipe's voice that I found absent in Reveal and mostly missing on Up (and when it was there, the music often undercut it). And yet the songs are so slow and sometimes bland that... I don't know. I just can't care much. Other new discs: I got Spooked today and have only listened once; several of the songs sounded quiet and acoustic in a different way than Luxor, so I have hope, but gosh, our boy just doesn't have all that good a voice for mellow songs. Is this a new thing, or did I never notice? Bjork: I'll take "Where Is The Line", "Who Is It" and the last track over most of her other recordings, but the bulk of the rest would be filler if it weren't for the unusual instrumentation (and sometimes, it doesn't even help). American Music Club (out next week): I think it's great, a more fitting sequel to Mercury than San Francisco was. My most Eitzel-loving friend doesn't see much of a difference between this and Eitzel's solo records, but she still enjoyed it some. Dogs Die In Hot Cars (out next week in the US): "Godhopping" is a fantastic single, but for some reason we Americans get "I Love You 'Cause I Have To" which is, on the contrary, kind of boring. The album is still worth picking up if you like XTC/Dexy's/Oingo Boingo-style joviality. Guided By Voices - Bee Thousand (The Director's Cut): I thought I would save myself $30 by reconstructing this from the track listing that Scat Records put up on their website. Sounds like Vampire On Titus, only slightly better and profoundly longer. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:36:52 -0400 From: bisontentacle Subject: in-store-a-rama yep roc has added several in-stores to robyn's itinerary: FR 10.29.04 WATERLOO RECORDS IN-Store performance and cd signing. 6PM Austin, TX SA 11.06.04 VIRGIN RECORDS Virgin Records (540 Michigan Ave) In-Store Performance and cd signing. 4pm For more info call: 312-645-9300 Chicago, IL TU 11.16.04 TOWER RECORDS- AVENUE OF THE ARTS In-Store Performance and cd signing. 1pm For more info call 215-568-8001 Philadelphia, PA woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:44:26 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: reap Mercury and Gemini astronaut Gordon Cooper, 77. I couldn't recall which of that bunch became a rather nutty UFO theorist (it was him), but in looking up his bio I see he was awarded - along with the Distinguished Flying Cross, various Service Medals, and astronaut wings - the "The Sport Fishing Society of Spain Award." Man when I go, I wanna have gotten one too...whatever the hell it is. Sounds fantastic. Michael "beats my Mukwanago Moose Lodge plaque, hands down" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:58:38 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: Any comments on... > Huh? I never got why people in the US (and apparently only there!) are so > down on "Reveal". I think it's way better than "Up". "Around The Sun", > OTOH, has a couple of good songs (Leaving New York, The Outsiders, > Wanderlust, Aftermath), but is generally mediocre and has, to my mind, the > WORST R.E.M. SONG EVER! "Make It All OK" is godawful. To me it sounds like > the kind of "rock ballad" that any MOR band could throw out. I had issues > with "Everybody Hurts", but then I knew at least why they were writing a > song like that. "Make It All OK" just baffles me - what happened? I used to think "Daysleeper" was the worst REM song. Until I heard "Leaving New York" which I think is even worse than "Make It All Ok" (which, don't get me wrong, it is really bad). But I would agree in rating "Reveal" over "Up." Though I pretty much think all their post-"Automatic" albums are uneven, rather uninspired discs. I never expected REM to have the kind of slow slide to mediocrety that, say, your Elton Johns and Phil Collins seem destined to. But they have. "Around The Sun" is just so awful I could cry. On the plus side, I have "Real Gone," which I'm loving. Tom Waits just keeps getting stranger and more interesting. It's bluesy, noisey, scary and very percussive and funky, a whole lot like "Bone Machine." Outstanding album. I'm also really liking the new Stan Ridgway disc, "Snakebite" which just might be the best album of his solo career. Those two, and Robyn for that matter, are aging pretty well, creatively speaking. Still don't have "Smile" or "Abbatoir Blues." Waiting for payday. Palle NP: Dr. John - Gris Gris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:19:10 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:24:01 -0400, bisontentacle wrote: > okay, i'm a pretty lax listowner but you sometimes have to lay down the > law. going forward, under no circumstances shall bill b*ckner's name be > mentioned on this list. end of discussion. First, the Sox shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. Because of the dramatic game-ending result, it's always about B*ckner's error, but why isn't it about Clemens leaving after seven, or Schiraldi giving up the 3-2 lead by letting the Mets tie in the bottom of the 8th, or Schiraldi giving up the two two-out hits in the bottom of the 10th, or the Bob Stanley wild pitch that had already allowed the Mets to *tie* the game 5-5 before Billy Buck's famous gaffe brought Ray Knight around with the winning run? Second, even after B*ckner's error, there was still a Game Seven to play. Seems like plenty more guys on the '86 Sox are to blame than just the game-but-gimpy B*ckner. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:35:14 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Any comments on... - --On Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2004 20:58 Uhr -0700 Vendren wrote: > I used to think "Daysleeper" was the worst REM song. I'm not particulary fond of that one, either. > Until I heard > "Leaving New York" which I think is even worse than "Make It All Ok" > (which, don't get me wrong, it is really bad). Hmm, actually I rather like it. > But I would agree in > rating "Reveal" over "Up." Though I pretty much think all their > post-"Automatic" albums are uneven, rather uninspired discs. "New Adventures in Hi-Fi" is one of my favorites, so I'd have to disagree. > I never expected REM to have the kind of slow slide to mediocrety that, > say, your Elton Johns and Phil Collins seem destined to. But they have. > "Around The Sun" is just so awful I could cry. It seems to grow on me a bit. I'm not sure if I'm not brainwashing myself into liking it, but who cares? I got "Smile", but only listened to it partially. "Heroes & Villains" is much better than on "Smiley Smile", but "Good Vibrations" isn't. Are they even using a Theremin? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:51:41 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Pop Song '05 - --On Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2004 18:29 Uhr -0500 Miles Goosens wrote: >> Automatic For The People wasn't very good?? > > Well, no, it wasn't. :-) But "1988," people, c'mon! - --On Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2004 15:34 Uhr -0800 Rex Broome wrote: > Sebastian: >> Automatic For The People wasn't very good?? You have a point with the >> new one, though ... > > Heh! I think you're joshin' me, but I did specify 1988, so we're talkin' > "Green" here. OK, I'm an idiot :-) I never knew, however, that Green was put brought to coincide with the election. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:06:06 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: another reap Max "the conk" Geldray James PS - I go away for a couple of days and you have an echo & the Bunnymen discussion while I'm gone. I can't trust you lot for a minute, can I? - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:50:42 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Pop Song '89 (not '93) I thought Green was superb when it first came out, but perhaps that was the first REM my 17-year-old ears had heard at that stage... though I'd still defend it and say it was largely under-rated. Love the pop songs, it's shiny without being over-produced and like the mandolin shimmer on a couple of the songs... I listened to it fairly recently (Chrissy like the album a lot) and I enjoyed it without any undue reliance on nostalgia. I think the reason it didn't have a great reaction amongst REM fans was that it doesn't seem so great stood next to Document (which I think is an astonishingly great album) and because it was the first REM album (certainly over here) that managed to have mass appeal. Cheers Matt >From: "Rex Broome" >Heh! I think you're joshin' me, but I did specify 1988, so we're talkin' "Green" here. Anyone wanna stick up for that one as a career high point? "Turn You Inside Out" was pretty good, and I used to love "The Wrong Child" before I found out it was so literal... otherwise that's a record full of songs that feel more useful than inspired or good. Oh, and the unnamed track... that's a good one. > >-Rex Broome (guitar and vocal, M.E.H.) >http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 08:26:41 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: another reap James Dignan wrote: > Max "the conk" Geldray Brandddyyyyyyyy! Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:09:46 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Any comments on... On Oct 6, 2004, at 2:35 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I got "Smile", but only listened to it partially. "Heroes & Villains" > is much better than on "Smiley Smile", but "Good Vibrations" isn't. > Are they even using a Theremin? A look at the clips from the Showtime special showed the use of what looked like the same kind of device used on the original, and it's not a Theremin. I can't remember what it's called, but the name is sorta similar. It uses a flat piece of metal on the top rather than antennas. - - Steve __________ Bushlexia - A combination of dyslexia, attention deficit disorder, apraxia, illiteracy, ignorance, laziness, passive-aggressiveness, inappropriate humor, and an arrogant attitude of privilege. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #281 ********************************