From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #270 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, September 24 2004 Volume 13 : Number 270 Today's Subjects: ----------------- guardian spooked review [fingerpuppets ] Re: Spooked ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] more anti-Bush stuff [James Dignan ] Re: jangliest career change. [James Dignan ] Offensive offensiveness [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Wilco, Spooked ["Stewart C. Russell" ] New torrent - Robyn Hitchcock A&M demos 1993 [fingerpuppets ] Re: Spooked ["Brian" ] Re: ipod [Ken Weingold ] Re: Spooked ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: Spooked [Eb ] RE: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... ["Brian" ] RE: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... ["Bachman, Michael" ] Top sellers. CoB ["Brian" ] RE: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... [Eb ] Re: New torrent - Robyn Hitchcock A&M demos 1993 [Aaron Mandel ] Re: jangliest career change. ["Rex Broome" ] Re: ipod [] Re: ipod [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:29:08 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: guardian spooked review Robyn Hitchcock, Spooked 3 out of 5 (Proper) Dave Simpson Friday September 24, 2004 The Guardian With Syd Barrett missing in action and Julian Cope often AWOL, psychedelic troubadours are becoming thin on the ground. Happily, former Soft Boy Robyn Hitchcock is still in fine form at 50 and has the kind of loyal following that allows him to trek after his muse at will. For this umpteenth solo album, that means hooking up with folkies Gillian Welch and David Rawlings who confessed their Hitchcock fandom after the troubadour wandered in on a gig of theirs last year. Thus, the acoustic Spooked has the hushed intensity of a special occasion. Hitchcock's trademark drawl is now so laconic, it's tempting to suspect his entire world runs at the wrong speed. No songs about fish this time, but plenty about television, hobgoblins and life in the trees, plus equally deadly insights into civilisation and the romantic possibilities of almond whirls. "Some people are mad - one listen and you can tell," he confesses gingerly, which shouldn't be taken as in any way autobiographical. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:23:44 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Spooked Brian wrote: > > Stewart- I'm jealous of your liking of Spooked. You lucky lucky bastard! Um, thanks. I think. I find it very easily liked, since I've been in a dylan/folkie/country place of late (though only yesterday I was grooving to "The Completion Backwards Principle"; I believe it's customary to say "go figure" now). It does strike me as being done of a really tiny budget. I'm not fan of overproduction (I can barely listen to Egyptians tracks, f'rinstance), but someone could've, y'know, listened to the start of "English Girl", and chopped off that mis-edit. And the cover wasn't even preflighted before printing; Michele's e-grave comes out as a capital E-umlaut -- one of those prepress text encoding gotchas that used to be my daily grind. Maybe I like it because basically I'm happy right now. If I were less than 100% chipper, I might find it dull. I do miss the days of fegmaniax when we'd dissect albums and lyrics, rush to transcribe them (and sometimes even tab them out), an spend weeks over a new album. What went wrong? crackle crackle pop, Stewart (on his fourth Spooked of the day; a long commute has its benefits.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:06:31 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... Rex Broome wrote: > > So I'm afraid all that's left is: You forgot 9), which I leave to your imagination of awfulness. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:04:24 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Wilco, Spooked Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > Who's Herriman? Creator of 'Krazy Kat'. The dialogue went something like this: * Nothing ever happens here - - So why stigg around? * 'cos something might! > I didn't mean to offend and am sorry if I did. I was rather worried that I had ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:18:11 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: more anti-Bush stuff I forward this just for the sake of comment, not because of any personal feelings about the person, although I dare say you can work out my feelings anyway... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:31:35 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: jangliest career change. >If you made a Top-Ten-Most-Jangliest Albums List (nb. not a best, >just most jangliest), what would be on there? Half of the slots >would be taken up by the first five Byrds albums, the latter two of >which already show tendencies in other directions. What else? >"Seance" by the Church? "Fables of the Reconstruction"? Good lord, >would "Perspex Island" be a contender? "Most jangliest"? Well here's three that are much more most janglierest than all of most of the rest! I'd put in votes for "Emergency third rail power trip" by Rain Parade, "All over the place" by the Bangles, and (compulsory NZ choice) "Send you" by Sneaky Feelings. Seems to me there's a big jangle/paisley underground crossover. King jangle album of all time would probably be "Turn! Turn! Turn!", although my all time top jangle moment is putting on "Wasn't born to follow" (from Notorious BB) through headphones. You turn the volume up to full just before the guitar break and then wait 30 seconds for your eyeballs to realign themselves. >1) "Shake off shackles" of "restrictive" record label contract: Check. >2) Record stripped down, emotionally direct acoustic record: Check, >check, check. >3) Reunite old band: Check. >4) Back-to-the-roots covers album: Check. >5) Collaborate with younger artists who've been influenced by them: Check. >6) Film score: Sort of. >7) Dabble in acting: Check. >8) Write and publish fiction: Check. > >So I'm afraid all that's left is: > >8) Classical album, no lyrics or vocals, childhood theme. Classical isn't necessary. It could just as easily be country, blues, or big band jazz (ask Ween, Elvis Costello, and Joe Jackson for details). James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:14:14 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Offensive offensiveness - --On Donnerstag, 23. September 2004 23:04 Uhr -0400 "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: >> Who's Herriman? > > Creator of 'Krazy Kat'. The dialogue went something like this: > > * Nothing ever happens here > - So why stigg around? > * 'cos something might! Waiting for Godot ... Fegmaniax is different, because something happens all the time :-) >> I didn't mean to offend and am sorry if I did. > > I was rather worried that I had ... I was offended at first, but then I thought that what I wrote might've been considered offensive ;-) I don't remember the dialogue from Bloom County, but it went something like "I feel offended by your offendedness" - hm, Google tells me it's "I am offended by your offensiveness of MY offensiveness!" :-) - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:54:44 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... Eb: >> Is it time yet for Robyn to refresh himself with an all-piano album? Rex: >Well, I think he should be allowed to put vocals on his records, but... >Okay... what do artists do when they need to reinvigorate their careers and/or creative mojo? >1) "Shake off shackles" of "restrictive" record label contract: Check. >2) Record stripped down, emotionally direct acoustic record: Check, check, check. >3) Reunite old band: Check. >4) Back-to-the-roots covers album: Check. >5) Collaborate with younger artists who've been influenced by them: Check. >6) Film score: Sort of. >7) Dabble in acting: Check. ?8) Write and publish fiction: Check. >So I'm afraid all that's left is: >8) Classical album, no lyrics or vocals, childhood theme. I wouldn't mind Robyn making an album with someone like Richard Thompson. I can imagine the guitars blazing away, even acoustic ones like they do on Fairport's version of Percy's Song. How about making the album with a female English folksinger, like Kate Rusby? All three of them could sing on it! Most of all though I would, like Nuppy stated, see another Soft Boys album. Michael B. NP Faust - Faust IV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:31:30 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: positive vibrations At 11:04 PM 9/23/2004 -0400, Stewart C. Russell wrote: >Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> >> Who's Herriman? > >Creator of 'Krazy Kat'. The dialogue went something like this: > >* Nothing ever happens here >- So why stigg around? >* 'cos something might! Since my posts have been rather down on a number of things lately, I would like to state my unqualified, eternal, boundless love for Krazy Kat. It is one of my most favorite things. Plus it's got pretty much the most bizarre love triangle ever. I also enjoyed Shane Apple's delurking post in favor of SPOOKED. Even if it is 180 degrees from my own opinion, a fully-formed eloquent statement like his is always a joy to read. More, please. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:34:37 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Wilco, Spooked Eb wrote: > Is it time yet for Robyn to refresh himself with an all-piano album? Didn't he do that with 'Eye', which has a deal more piano in it than I remembered? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:04:44 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: New torrent - Robyn Hitchcock A&M demos 1993 the a&m demos have been reseeded over on sharingthegroove. i've no idea if this seed matches the one which was torrented previously (though i certainly hope it does!). check it out at http://torrent.sharingthegroove.org/details.php?id=77 woj - ----- Forwarded message from tracker@sharingthegroove.org ----- A new torrent has been uploaded. Name: Robyn Hitchcock A&M demos 1993 Size: 249.14 MB Category: Audio - Other Uploaded by: badronald Description: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?p=1324419#post1324419 Robyn Hitchcock A&M SESSIONS (AKA A&M Demos) Studio Demos 1993 Source: Studio Lineage: CD -->EAC-->FLAC Frontend. 250mb FLAC ******DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 or other LOSSY FORMAT***** 01 The Wind Cries Mary 03:20 02 Polly on the Shore 04:18 03 Everyday is like sunday 04:28 04 Take a chance with me 04:28 05 Senor 04:39 06 Yer blues 04:16 07 Dominoes 04:22 08 Calvary cross 04:27 09 Dominoes II 03:17 10 Chinese white 03:51 11 The wind cries mary II 04:47 TOTAL: 46:13 These are excellent studio demos from Robyn's 1993 A&M Studio stuff. "The Wind Cries Mary" is especially great. Quality is A+, this is a true gem for any Robyn Hitchcock fan. ******DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3 or other LOSSY FORMAT***** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use the URL below to download the torrent (you may have to login). http://torrent.sharingthegroove.org/details.php?id=77&hit=1 - -- Sharing the Groove Tracker - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:48:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... Wow...that was a remarkably on-target assessment of Robyn's current status. Well-done. And I think you're right about the classical thing. I'll be saving up my pennies for the upcoming "Robyn Hitchcock & the London Symphony Orchestra" disc. Eb - -----Original Message----- Okay... what do artists do when they need to reinvigorate their careers and/or creative mojo? 1) "Shake off shackles" of "restrictive" record label contract: Check. 2) Record stripped down, emotionally direct acoustic record: Check, check, check. 3) Reunite old band: Check. 4) Back-to-the-roots covers album: Check. 5) Collaborate with younger artists who've been influenced by them: Check. 6) Film score: Sort of. 7) Dabble in acting: Check. 8) Write and publish fiction: Check. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:20:18 -0500 From: Subject: ipod [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] i may soon acquire an ipod. a friend want's one and insists that i have one as well. don't ask. i have been looking into a few other portable mp3 players and the ipod is winning so far, but not by much. here are a few questions. does simply using an audio cable with mini to rca jacks to connect the ipod to an external amp suffice? i have seen a few different docking systems and multi cable packs but i have also been reading that the mini to rca cable works very well. is this true? i have seen adverts showing an 'apple ipod from HP' which states it supports voice recording. when did hp get involved? i have also seen adverts showing an 'apple ipod' with the same exact specs except no voice recording support. what blows? also, has anyone been playing, transporting and externally viewing any video from the ipod? and has anyone "upgraded" the firmware and what was the improvement or added feature? gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:23:58 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Spooked Stewart: > > Stewart- I'm jealous of your liking of Spooked. You lucky lucky bastard! > Um, thanks. I think. Well, I'm a little less jealous now. I listened to Spooked 1.5 times more, last night. 1. Television: Lovely. I like the bings and bongs (sorry Nat). Good guitar play. Slow but sensual. 2.If You Know Time: Ok. It's a great song, but I don't appreciate it's presentation. I can't get the Soft Boys version out of my head. I like the harmonies, but wish there was a 3rd part harmony in there. It is a really great song. 3. Everybody Needs Love: I can't remember it, but I think I liked it. 4. English Girl: Very Dylan. I'm not the biggest Dylan fan. I sorta wish Robyn would go in a more Lennon, direction if I could pick one of his influences... This song doesn't grab me yet. 5. Demons and Fiends: Love it. Perfect Halloween track. And yes, this is from the past. I'm sure Robyn's got more than he can keep track of. I'm still waiting for an official release of Surfer Ghost. Chrise-almighty! this would've been a good album for Surfer Ghost, being an October album n'all. 6. Creeped Out: While I've been hearing complaints on this one, I rather dig it. I certainly prefer it over English Girl. Something grabbed me about the lyrics, but now I can't remember what. 7. Sometimes a Blonde: I also liked this one, though I can't remember for the life of me how it goes. That sounds like a Dylan title BTW. 8. We're Gonna Live in the Trees: being a tree climber till I was about 19 (that's all I did, really), I'm fond of this song. I like the lyrics about the birds and feeding and such. 9. Tryin' to Get to Heaven Before They Close the Door: I knew I heard this before... I'd still prefer a Lennon cover, or Beefheart, but this album is more Dylan felt. 10. Full Moon in My Soul: Oh this is pure magic to my ears. A great love song. Someone here is going to hate it though! 11. Welcome to Earth: I like things like this, but it seems forced, sort of. At least for Robyn...maybe they needed to cut out the very end, because that gives away the fact that they 'set out to' record this little impromptu bit. 12. Flanagan's Song: I can't remember it... >I find it very easily liked, since I've been in a > dylan/folkie/country place of late Well, that does make sense... I've been into a more jazzier quirky place. > It does strike me as being done of a really tiny budget. I'm not fan of > overproduction (I can barely listen to Egyptians tracks, f'rinstance), > but someone could've, y'know, listened to the start of "English Girl", > and chopped off that mis-edit. Oh we can agree there! I love the low budgetness of anything Hitchcock (especially early stuff). The mis-edit in the start of English Girl is good. After someone mentioned this being better than Luxor, but behind Moss Elixer it trigured something in my brain. I went back and listened to SPOOKED as if it were ME part 2. It makes better sense that way. > Maybe I like it because basically I'm happy right now. If I were less > than 100% chipper, I might find it dull. Stewart, I'm glad you are enjoying your newish North American home! I do miss the days of fegmaniax > when we'd dissect albums and lyrics, rush to transcribe them (and > sometimes even tab them out), an spend weeks over a new album. What went > wrong? Yes, I'll 2nd that, but I didn't participate much anyway. > crackle crackle pop, But no 'snap'? - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:29:39 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: ipod On Fri, Sep 24, 2004, gshell@americangroupisp.com wrote: > [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] > i may soon acquire an ipod. a friend want's one and insists that i have one as > well. don't ask. i have been looking into a few other portable mp3 players and the > ipod is winning so far, but not by much. here are a few questions. does simply > using an audio cable with mini to rca jacks to connect the ipod to an external amp > suffice? i have seen a few different docking systems and multi cable packs but i > have also been reading that the mini to rca cable works very well. is this true? Yes. > i have seen adverts showing an 'apple ipod from HP' which states it supports voice > recording. when did hp get involved? i have also seen adverts showing an 'apple > ipod' with the same exact specs except no voice recording support. what blows? The HP ones is the same exact thing as the Apple one. It supports mono recording, but you need an external device for it. Something like: http://griffintechnology.com/products/italk/ . > also, has anyone been playing, transporting and externally viewing any video from > the ipod? The iPod mounts as an external hard drive, the new ones being either FireWire or USB 2.0. You could play video off of it just like any other hard drive, but I think that's the only way. > and has anyone "upgraded" the firmware and what was the improvement or added > feature? Apple lists the changes for each firmware upgrade. They can be stability enhancements, new features, etc. It's like OS updates. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:36:30 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Spooked Brian wrote: > > Stewart, I'm glad you are enjoying your newish North American home! I think the job helps. This job FOLKS!* >>crackle crackle pop, > But no 'snap'? Isn't 'crackle crackle pop' what Gillian murmurs over 'Welcome To Earth'? I've mainly listened to it on MP3 on public transit. cheers, Stewart *: because we're quiet and all, it can't RAWK. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:36:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Spooked Does anyone have a mp3 of this? I've never heard this song, and you guys sure have made me curious about it, lo, these many years.... Eb - -----Original Message----- I'm still waiting for an official release of Surfer Ghost. Chrise-almighty! this would've been a good album for Surfer Ghost, being an October album n'all. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:20:38 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: RE: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... > Most of all though I would, like Nuppy stated, see another Soft Boys > album. > > Michael B. I'd be curious to see how the sales of NDL did compared to Luxur or Spooked or even JFS... I have a sneaking suspicion that were the Soft Boys more lucrative after/during NDL that we would've seen more. It's a lot harder to support 4 people than 1. The 2nd Soft Boys tour after NDL was pale in comparison to the 1st. This is when it started going wrong, maybe. - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:29:51 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Spooked > >>crackle crackle pop, > > But no 'snap'? > > Isn't 'crackle crackle pop' what Gillian murmurs over 'Welcome To > Earth'? I've mainly listened to it on MP3 on public transit. Yep it is. But still... no 'snap'? I'm referring to Rice Crispies...and I'm a dork... - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:00:36 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... >> Most of all though I would, like Nuppy stated, see another Soft Boys >> album. > >> Michael B. Nuppy came back with: >I'd be curious to see how the sales of NDL did compared to Luxur or >Spooked or even JFS... What is the largest seller of Robyn's career? Globe of Frogs? >I have a sneaking suspicion that were the Soft Boys more lucrative >after/during NDL that we would've seen more. It's a lot harder to >support 4 people than 1. The 2nd Soft Boys tour after NDL was pale in >comparison to the 1st. This is when it started going wrong, maybe. The 2002 Soft Boys tour was pretty small when compared with the Fall of 1999 Rock Armada tour or the Spring of 2001 Soft Boys tour. I wonder if it was the sales of NDL, or if Robyn didn't want to manage a full band tour again? I would be more than happy with another Rock Armada type tour with a supporting band like Departure Lounge and guest Kimberly Rew. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:19:23 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Spooked Stewart > And the cover wasn't even preflighted before printing; Michele's e-grave > comes out as a capital E-umlaut -- one of those prepress text encoding > gotchas that used to be my daily grind. And here I thought the "One L" thing had been purposefully taken to a new level of spelling idiosyncracy. I've still only looked at it. Listening today, approximately 3PM PST, to be followed by my new Bert Jansch compilation and the Sadies album. - -Rex Broome (guitar and vocals, Houses in Motion) np: the incredibly incredible live version of "Born Under Punches" added to the new version of "The Name of This Band Is Talking Heads"... damn... they did the same thing with this as they did to the version of "Houses" I've loved for years... slower, sparser, but somehow bigger... - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:25:10 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Top sellers. CoB > What is the largest seller of Robyn's career? Globe of Frogs? > Michael B. Perspex Island I'm guessing. Hmm. kinda blows my theory apart. But actually the PI tour was huge, Respect not so -and then disbandment. Plus they'd been going for 8 years... How bout that 25 anniversery Can Of Bees? It looks bleak... I hoping for a 30 year! - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:07:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... Seems like we once determined that it was Queen Elvis (wince). If people are really rabid for this info, I think I know a person or two who would give me full SoundScan info for RH/Soft Boys. It's a wee bit of an imposition to ask, though. Eb - -----Original Message----- > What is the largest seller of Robyn's career? Globe of Frogs? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:16:20 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Spooked, ranked, spanked I see Spooked is currently ranked #284 on Amazon. That actually seems pretty good, by RH standards. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: New torrent - Robyn Hitchcock A&M demos 1993 On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, fingerpuppets wrote: > the a&m demos have been reseeded over on sharingthegroove. i've no idea > if this seed matches the one which was torrented previously (though i > certainly hope it does!). check it out at > > http://torrent.sharingthegroove.org/details.php?id=77 You know, that reminds me, a while ago Aidan Merritt posted about giving away a whole bunch of Robyn rarities. Did those end up in the hands of anyone who's inclined to share? I'd never even heard of several of the studio tapes he talked about. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:01:13 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re:Adian Rarities I think they went to someone at Vegetable Friends....? > You know, that reminds me, a while ago Aidan Merritt posted about giving > away a whole bunch of Robyn rarities. Did those end up in the hands of > anyone who's inclined to share? I'd never even heard of several of the > studio tapes he talked about. > > a - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:07:46 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: jangliest career change. James: > King jangle album of all time would probably be "Turn! Turn! Turn!", > although my all time top jangle moment is putting on "Wasn't born to > follow" (from Notorious BB) through headphones. You turn the volume > up to full just before the guitar break and then wait 30 seconds for > your eyeballs to realign themselves. Aye, it's a good 'un, but I reckon it postdates the "pure jangle" period of the Byrds: it has elements of country and psychedelia diluting its jangliosityesqueness. Pure jangle would be the aforementioned "Turn Turn Turn", or for that matter, "Madonna of the Wasps". That's why the phrase is so useless: it primarily describes a guitar tone, a tone which when dropped into a song defined by another genre becomes "the jangly part in a country/pschedelic/post-punk/roots/whatever song". It's like saying distortion-rock, acoustic-rock, or Leslie-speaker-rock are genres, in a way. Which I think is part of Jeffrey's beef with the term, but only part of it. - -Rex Broome (guitar and vocal, The Jangly Parts) - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:12:53 -0500 From: Subject: Re: ipod [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:29 , Ken Weingold bofh@unix.vi> sent: >> also, has anyone been playing, transporting and externally viewing any video >> from the ipod? > >The iPod mounts as an external hard drive, the new ones being either >FireWire or USB 2.0. You could play video off of it just like any >other hard drive, but I think that's the only way. thanks for all the info ken. i guess the video ipod is still a generation or so away. i was reading a number of msgs on various boards that talked about a special mini to three cable adapter that included a composite video line and people stating that if the video cable was left unplugged there was a great deal of audio distortion and noise. so i was just assuming i guess that you could play video directly and needed only a display with a composite input. damn, that would be nice. >> and has anyone "upgraded" the firmware and what was the improvement or added >> feature? > >Apple lists the changes for each firmware upgrade. They can be >stability enhancements, new features, etc. It's like OS updates. i was under the impression that these firmware upgrades were filled with optional function and game choices for instance, besides just the normal OS feature and stability improvements. tonight i meet my new ipod enthusiast friend for dinner and as long as nothing has changed since last week, i may be going home with one. thanks again. gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:13:52 -0500 From: Subject: Re: ipod [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:29 , Ken Weingold bofh@unix.vi> sent: >> also, has anyone been playing, transporting and externally viewing any video >> from the ipod? > >The iPod mounts as an external hard drive, the new ones being either >FireWire or USB 2.0. You could play video off of it just like any >other hard drive, but I think that's the only way. thanks for all the info ken. i guess the video ipod is still a generation or so away. i was reading a number of msgs on various boards that talked about a special mini to three cable adapter that included a composite video line and people stating that if the video cable was left unplugged there was a great deal of audio distortion and noise. so i was just assuming i guess that you could play video directly and needed only a display with a composite input. damn, that would be nice. >> and has anyone "upgraded" the firmware and what was the improvement or added >> feature? > >Apple lists the changes for each firmware upgrade. They can be >stability enhancements, new features, etc. It's like OS updates. i was under the impression that these firmware upgrades were filled with optional function and game choices for instance, besides just the normal OS feature and stability improvements. tonight i meet my new ipod enthusiast friend for dinner and as long as nothing has changed since last week, i may be going home with one. thanks again. gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #270 ********************************