From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #261 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, September 16 2004 Volume 13 : Number 261 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds ["Fortissimo" <] RE: a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds ["Fortissimo" <] Re: Canadian bands & American movies ["Fortissimo" ] reap [Eb ] Robyn in London [Jim Davies ] Get Your Bootleg On ["Jay Lyall" ] Re: reap [Ken Weingold ] Re: reap [Ken Weingold ] Re: reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Early heroin song [Barbara Soutar ] RE: a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds [Barbara Soutar] munch by proxy [James Dignan ] Re: Early heroin song [Capuchin ] House of Jansch [James Dignan ] Re: auditorium update ["The Mammal Brain" ] Johnny Ramone ["Marc Holden" ] Odd Question ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Johnny Ramone [Ken Weingold ] Re: Johnny Ramone [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: auditorium update [fingerpuppets ] RE: Johnny Ramone ["Bachman, Michael" ] KEXP & archiving [Aaron Lowe ] Re: KEXP & archiving [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: KEXP & archiving [FSThomas ] Re: KEXP & archiving [fingerpuppets ] Re: KEXP & archiving [FSThomas ] America Nods: A Celebration of 73 Years of Heroin in Song! ["Rex Broome" ] Re: America Nods: A Celebration of 73 Years of Heroin in Song! ["Fortissi] Another awesome Canadian band [Ken Weingold ] RE: Johnny Ramone [Capuchin ] Spooked at home ["Maximilian Lang" ] You can't handle the truth.... [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:48:00 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: RE: a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:59:37 -0700, "Eb" said: > >I've also never seen "It's a Wonderful Life" and > >I have no plans to do so, ever. > > Quite possibly the most overrated film of all time. "Every time a bell > rings, an angel gets his wings." Lordy, what treacle. I read a review of this once - I'm thinking it might've been from West Anthony, over on Loudfans - that reconceptualized the film, quite cleverly, as incredibly cynical and bitter. Does anyone else (i.e., other Loudfegs) remember that post - or better, have it on file? ps: I've never seen _Gone with the Wind_ - --------------------------- J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:51:16 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: RE: a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "Capuchin" said: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Eb wrote: > > Speaking of overrated, I finally saw another should-have-seen-long ago > > film last night: Bowling for Columbine. > [snip] > > OK, it's supposed to be a pro-gun control statement, using the Columbine > > tragedy as its central lynchpoint, right? > > Wrong. > > In fact, the point of the film seems to be that guns are NOT the problem > (hence, the focus on Canada where there are plenty of guns and is very > little gun violence). > The film attempts to explore the complex system that creates our surface > culture of violence. He narrows it down to fear and desperation caused > by > media and poverty, respectively. I think this (including the parts I haven't included) is a fine, thoughtful analysis of the film. I think the fact that it did *not* focus with laser sharpness on Columbine, or on gun control, was a strength. But then, I think _Fahrenheit 9/11_ was far more thoughtful, and far less self-indulgent or grandstanding, than even I would have expected from Moore - and although I'm well aware of his weaknesses, I'd also consider myself, generally, a fan. Neither film is simple - and the problem is that most media wants to reduce the films to simplicity. Perhaps ironically, a lot of non-choir-members who've seen it (it proved rather popular among students, for example - and not the usual lefty suspect students only) seem to have understood it better than a lot of critics did. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:58:58 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Canadian bands & American movies On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:46:29 -0400, "Barbara Soutar" said: > > Brian said: > > "I'll end up buying NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE once it comes out on dvd. It's > hilarious!" > > I agree, I saw this in a theatre with only 4 people in it and wondered > why the best movies tend to be overlooked. I love this movie and want to > see it again. This must be a Canadian thing...as it's being hyped to death here. I'm being pissy and curmudgeonly about refusing to see it so far, on the grounds that (a) the director won't cop to stealing the movie's name from Elvis Costello, instead proffering a ridiculous story about an Italian street person; and (b) apparently, judging from the relentless marketing of same, the character's tagline is "sweet!" - which, again, is stolen (from South Park's Cartman this time) and is deeply annoying, especially when you hear people in restaurants repeating it mindlessly. Okay, maybe *I'm* the list curmudgeon. But I think kittens are really really cute. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds Fortissimo wrote: > ps: I've never seen _Gone with the Wind_ Watch three random episodes of, say, All My Children. Pretend it's in antebellum south. Pretty much the same thing, except I guess there's a lesbian on All My Children. Susan Lucci is even as rigid an actress as Vivien Leigh. And, no, I don't watch soaps. ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:22:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Canadian bands & American movies Fortissimo wrote: > "Barbara Soutar" said: > > I agree, I saw this in a theatre with only 4 people in > > it and wondered why the best movies tend to be > > overlooked. I love this movie and want to > > see it again. > This must be a Canadian thing...as it's being hyped to > death here. I'm being pissy and curmudgeonly about > refusing to see it so far, on the grounds that (a) the > director won't cop to stealing the movie's name > from Elvis Costello, instead proffering a ridiculous > story about an Italian street person; Jesus, what a tool I hadn't heard that, but I've been trying to avoid hearing about it since everything I've seen about it makes it look a movie that doesn't understand that quirky can be annoying just as easily as interesting and is just way too fucking precious and saccharrine for words. It looks like the sort of movie the Dave Matthews Band would be if they were a movie instead of dumping shit on top of people. Plus any movie that mysterious adds a scene to snooker people into coming back to see in the theaters after less than two months.... > and (b) apparently, judging from the relentless > marketing of same, the character's tagline is "sweet!" - > which, again, > is stolen (from South Park's Cartman this time) and is > deeply annoying, > especially when you hear people in restaurants repeating > it mindlessly. > > Okay, maybe *I'm* the list curmudgeon. But I think > kittens are really really cute. ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:26:07 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap Johnny Ramone. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:40:36 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Davies Subject: Robyn in London Someone just told me about this, and I haven't seen mention: Robyn Hitchcock, Darren Heyman, Ed Harcourt, Imogen Heap at the Marquee Club, Leicester Square, Friday 1st October 2004. It's headed "Time for Change", which probably means "Please don't re-elect Mr Bush, for all our sakes." But I'm guessing - it could be something else entirely. x Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:36:21 -0500 From: "Jay Lyall" Subject: Get Your Bootleg On Some really good remixes and mashes - the Beatle/Beastie mixes are interesting. Don't know why no one uses Robyn. http://gybo.proboards4.com/index.cgi - ---------------------------------------- Jay Lyall - Houston, Texas "Making people laugh is the lowest form of comedy." - Mike Donohue http://www.johnkerry.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:48:56 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: reap On Wed, Sep 15, 2004, Eb wrote: > Johnny Ramone. Where did you hear this? I don't see anything mentioning it. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:53:49 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: reap On Wed, Sep 15, 2004, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004, Eb wrote: > > Johnny Ramone. > > Where did you hear this? I don't see anything mentioning it. Damn, I had to find this: http://tinyurl.com/44l6h to get the story. I don't know what's sadder, Johnny dying or nothing telling about it. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:01:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap Ken Weingold wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004, Ken Weingold wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004, Eb wrote: > > > Johnny Ramone. > > > > Where did you hear this? I don't see anything > > mentioning it. > > Damn, I had to find this: http://tinyurl.com/44l6h to get > the story. I don't know what's sadder, Johnny dying or > nothing telling about it. With Tommy being the sole surviving original member, does that officially make the Ramones the anti-Spinal Tap? ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:22:53 -0400 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Early heroin song Mike Godwin asked about heroin songs and it flashing into my mind about Goodnight Irene by Huddie Leadbetter. Surprisingly, the original lyrics go like this: "If ever Irene should leave me Lord/I'll take heroin and die" or "take morphine and die". It was recorded first in 1936 and became quite a nifty hit for the Weavers later, as you know. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:32:04 -0400 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: RE: a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds Eb said about It's a Wonderful Life: "Quite possibly the most overrated film of all time. "Every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings." Lordy, what treacle." Oh sure, pick the dumbest line in the whole movie. Although I enjoy watching the movie every Christmas, I amuse my family by imitating the squeaky voiced child who says this line. My teenaged daughter has an antidote for this sentiment: "Every time a mousetrap snaps, an angel gets set on fire". Jolly fun. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:38:58 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: munch by proxy >PS(2) I saw a crit. recently which said that the person in "The Scream" is >not the screamer but the screamee, i.e. they are listening to the scream >rather than uttering it. Whaddya think? I've heard that theory before too... my own take on it is a mixture of the two - that the scream is a mental scream of anguish (from the person's "inner voice") and that they are trying to block it out by covering their ears. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Early heroin song On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Barbara Soutar wrote: > Mike Godwin asked about heroin songs and it flashing into my mind about > Goodnight Irene by Huddie Leadbetter. Surprisingly, the original lyrics > go like this: "If ever Irene should leave me Lord/I'll take heroin and > die" or "take morphine and die". It was recorded first in 1936 and > became quite a nifty hit for the Weavers later, as you know. How long has "junk" been a euphemism for heroin? In Cab Calloway's "Kicking the Gong Around" (I'll have to double-check the title), this verse appears: It was down in Chinatown All the Cokies laid around Some were high and some were mighty low on the floor Then a knock came at the door And there stood old Smokey Joe He was looking cold and pale He was looking for his frail He was drunk and all of his junk ran out Basically, this is gangsta rap from 1931 (though Cab was more Puffy than Tupac). "Frail" is an unflattering euphemism for a woman. So, the cokies are obviously coke-heads and I've always loved the line "some were high and some were mighty low". The rest of the song describes Smokey Joe on a rampage to find his girl (the famed "Minnie the Moocher") and collapsing into some kind of fit either out of jealousy or withdrawal. Anyway, I consider it a clear reference to heroin. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:42:49 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: House of Jansch >Don't agree. However, the first H song I ever learned was Bert Jansch's >"Needle of Death" from his 1965 debut LP. Any earlier entrants? coincidentally, I found out the other day that Yo La Tengo occasionally have performed this live. Weird thing to cover, I would have thought... anyone heard them perform it? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:11:24 -0700 From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Re: auditorium update you're only saying that 'cause i peed in your beer. when he did KEXP, he said that he's going to be touring the continent in multiple "lungs" (he used this terminology in '97 as well). the second lung is to be in the spring. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:18:29 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Johnny Ramone Man, this really sucks. I was a total Ramones fanatic for quite a while, and I still tend to buy all the repackaged stuff that gets issued. I met them back on the Animal Boy tour when they played the Bayou in Washington, D.C. I have a really nice copy of that album that Johnny, Joey, and Dee Dee signed for me after the show (Ritchie walked by as I talked to the others). I had actually tried to meet them during the afternoon, and I walked up to the venue just as they were heading out from soundcheck--missed them by mere seconds. After the show, Joey mentioned to me, "you were the first one here..." It's really hard to believe that they're all gone now (and that Keith Richards and Iggy Pop are both fine). Later, Marc "Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up!"--Mr. Death (the Grim Reaper), Monty Python's Meaning of Life. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:14:30 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Odd Question Anyone here ever make a Electric guitar? If so, please contact me off list. Thanks. Max _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:50:40 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Johnny Ramone On a total nasty note, that's one less vote for Bush. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Johnny Ramone Ken Weingold wrote: > On a total nasty note, that's one less vote for Bush. True, although Kerry can't lose California no matter how hard he tries in his bizarre campaign to make Michael Dukakis look like Bill Clinton (in terms of political savvy and competence). ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:46:50 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: auditorium update one time at band camp, The Mammal Brain (tews@drizzle.com) said: >when he did KEXP, he said that he's going to be touring the continent in >multiple "lungs" (he used this terminology in '97 as well). the second >lung is to be in the spring. speaking of kexp... 1) has anyone captured the audio of it from the kexp archive? i keep forgetting to and it think it disappears from their archives this weekend. 2) has anyone transcribed the interview? woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:54:04 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Johnny Ramone Mark wrote: >Man, this really sucks. I was a total Ramones fanatic for quite a while, and >I still tend to buy all the repackaged stuff that gets issued. I met them >back on the Animal Boy tour when they played the Bayou in Washington, D.C. I >have a really nice copy of that album that Johnny, Joey, and Dee Dee signed >for me after the show (Ritchie walked by as I talked to the others). I had >actually tried to meet them during the afternoon, and I walked up to the >venue just as they were heading out from soundcheck--missed them by mere >seconds. After the show, Joey mentioned to me, "you were the first one >here..." It's really hard to believe that they're all gone now (and that >Keith Richards and Iggy Pop are both fine). Later, Marc I never did see them. Is the repackaged stuff decent? I read some reviews in amazon.com complaining that they sounded too cleaned up. Any comments? I don't have any of the repackaged Ramones. Speaking of they're all gone now, a lot of the punk bands have members that have passed. Watching my VHS copy of Urgh! A Music War, might be pretty depressing adding them up. Michael B. NP The Monochrome Set - Tomorrow Will Be Too Long ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:01:36 -0500 From: Aaron Lowe Subject: KEXP & archiving At 08:46 AM 9/16/2004, fingerpuppets wrote: >speaking of kexp... > >1) has anyone captured the audio of it from the kexp archive? i keep >forgetting to and it think it disappears from their archives this >weekend. I hadn't heard this yet, so I figured I'd kill two birds with one stone and capture it, but I can't FIND it. At 12:44 PM 9/6/2004, Roberta Cowan wrote: >The show is archived for 2 weeks at >http://www.kexp.org/streamarchive/streamarchive.asp. When you get to that >page you can choose the date Sat, Sept 4 and the time 2 pm to listen. I've done this, but it doesn't seem to yield any Robyn Hitchcocky content. Anyone else have any luck? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:21:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: KEXP & archiving Aaron Lowe wrote: > fingerpuppets wrote: > >speaking of kexp... > > > >1) has anyone captured the audio of it from the kexp > >archive? i keep forgetting to and it think it > >disappears from their archives this weekend. > > I hadn't heard this yet, so I figured I'd kill two birds > with one stone and capture it, but I can't FIND it. It starts about 3-4 minutes after the start of the hour.... > > At 12:44 PM 9/6/2004, Roberta Cowan wrote: > >The show is archived for 2 weeks at > >http://www.kexp.org/streamarchive/streamarchive.asp. > When you get to that > >page you can choose the date Sat, Sept 4 and the time 2 > pm to listen. > > I've done this, but it doesn't seem to yield any Robyn > Hitchcocky > content. Anyone else have any luck? > ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:21:02 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: KEXP & archiving > I hadn't heard this yet, so I figured I'd kill two birds with one stone > and capture it, but I can't FIND it. I've got the whole show captured, as well as the individual tracks already broken out. Opinions? SharingTheGroove? - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:26:51 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: KEXP & archiving one time at band camp, FSThomas (ferris@ochremedia.com) said: >I've got the whole show captured, as well as the individual tracks >already broken out. >Opinions? SharingTheGroove? what stream did you capture? how did you capture it? what format do you have it currently in? woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:57:53 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: KEXP & archiving fingerpuppets wrote: > what stream did you capture? how did you capture it? what format do you > have it currently in? I snagged the uncompressed stream, straight to CoolEdit, saved as 16/44 PCM WAV. The Audigy 2 card that I've got has a "what you hear" setting built into the mixer. It's going straight from the sound card to the application. Sounds pretty danged good, too, if you ask me. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:37:37 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: America Nods: A Celebration of 73 Years of Heroin in Song! Michael B: > Speaking of they're all gone now, a lot of the punk bands have members that > have passed. Linguistic Drift Dept.: When did "passed" become such a prominent euphemism for "died"? Until a few years ago I don't thing I often heard this without it being followed by "away". Somehow I feel as if it's sort of an African American church thing which has slipped into the mainstream via the East Coast/West Coast Gangsta Rap War. I could be way wrong, but Tupac and Biggie Smalls were the first folks I remember hearing about having "passed", but at that time it was only in the lingo of their hip-hop peers. Now it seems to be used by just about everyone without much thought. (I think this may have been around the same time that records started "dropping" instead of "being released". I can process the new Outkast record dropping... and hell, the new Linkin Park can drop all it wants... but hearing that "the new Morrissey drops Tuesday" makes me flail my forearms about in front of my body like the Lost in Space robot doing his "does not compute" aneurism dance...) - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:14:01 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: America Nods: A Celebration of 73 Years of Heroin in Song! These are people who died, who died... On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:37:37 -0800, "Rex Broome" said: > Michael B: > > Speaking of they're all gone now, a lot of the punk bands have members that > > have passed. > > Linguistic Drift Dept.: When did "passed" become such a prominent > euphemism for "died"? I hadn't noticed this until you pointed it out, but yeah, I think you're right. What I don't understand is using a euphemism for "died" when you're not talking directly to anyone who knew the person who died. It's not as if anyone's feelings need to be spared. Although I suppose I could be wrong, and Michael was best buds with lots of original punk rockers ;) - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:00:23 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Another awesome Canadian band Btw, this site rules. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Johnny Ramone On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Bachman, Michael wrote: > I never did see them. Is the repackaged stuff decent? I read some > reviews in amazon.com complaining that they sounded too cleaned up. Any > comments? I don't have any of the repackaged Ramones. I've been spending some time at a punk house lately where there are some heavy vinyl buffs. They've been playing the reissued Ramones stuff quite a bit and it sounds great. It sounds way better than any CDs I have. I don't think the "too cleaned up" argument really holds. It's clean, sure, but only as clean as the Ramones themselves. The missing sounds are all tape hiss and recording artifacts. I know it's cliche, but it really does sound like they're playing live right in the room. If I had any money at all, I'd buy some of those. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:23:44 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Spooked at home Spooked was in my mail today, so was my new HD-MD. I am going to wait until tomorrow to listen to the CD, Im in too bad a mood tonight. Never build a guitar, it's really frustrating(and really expensive). Max _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:18:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: You can't handle the truth.... http://www.rowboatvets.com/ ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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