From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #251 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, September 6 2004 Volume 13 : Number 251 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Shriekback [HSatterfld@aol.com] Re: Jeff Buckley (et al) [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Giles Rupert [James Dignan ] Re: Shriekback [2and2makes5@comcast.net] Re: gnatmaniax: PIXIES [Capuchin ] Progressive Rock Music in England: 1965-1975 ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #250 [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Airplane [Eb ] New Miyazaki film (NR, NS) [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 17:21:01 EDT From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: Re: Shriekback Miles Goosens said: < > OIL AND GOLD is still available, but BIG NIGHT MUSIC has been out-of-print long enough that it is going for $40 a copy on Amazon. (I recommend almost 50% of GO BANG! which can be picked up very inexpensively.) Hollie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 15:22:31 -0400 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley (et al) Note to Michael Wells, Thank you for that, I downloaded a version of Waly Waly and indeed it does contain many of the same lyrics as The Water is Wide. This particular song has gripped me all summer. My brother likes the Jane Siberry version, but I don't. The Steve Goodman one I checked out today and yep, it's good. Note to Eb, Aha! You are correct. Mr. Crash Test Dummy has the deepest voice ever. Ten years ago, I heard it in person when the Commonweath Games were held in Victoria, and they performed in front of the Legislature. My main memories: almost being crushed at the free concert and feeling the reverberations of that bass voice in my stomach. See? I'm a loyal Canadian after all. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:50:38 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Giles Rupert Jeff pondered: > > This may be a left-field thought, but have you checked out recent > > Gary Numan? Yes, he's still out there making music, and it's dark and > > wondrous. "Messages of Dark" often sounds to me like Numan and Laurie > > Anderson getting together. > >I gave up on Numan way back when when he succumbed to English White >Boys' Faux Funk Disease. Has he (long since, for all I know) ditched the >femme backing vox, awful sax, and absurd non-danceable danciness? his recent stuff is like a more musical and more adventurous Nine Inch Nails. No female vocals, no sax, no attempt at danciness. Just creeping angular darkness. Try to find his album "Pure" from 2000, for an example. >This is the time for me to put in my usual two comments re Thomas Dolby, >to wit: (1) "Golden Age of Wireless" and "The Flat Earth" are brilliant >albums - and if all you've heard is "She Blinded Me with Science" and >"Hyperactive," yr missing out. Including missing a very fine Robyn >monologue in the fade of "White City." Also: (2) why the *hell* is >there not a compiled version of GAOW including the longer versions >of the tracks that featured on the "Blinded by Science" EP I must admit, the Dolby track that came to mind with the original question was "One of our submarines", which ISTR has a long version on the BbS EP (or at least the old 12" single). James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 01:05:45 +0000 From: 2and2makes5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Shriekback Crap. Many years ago I held copies of both OandG and BNM in my hands, and I thought "I like OandG slightly more than BNM, so I will buy BNM later." Natually I never get around to buying the one that becomes prohibitievely expensive. Jon n.d.--Yuengling Porter > > OIL AND GOLD is still available, but BIG NIGHT MUSIC has been out-of-print > long enough that it is going for $40 a copy on Amazon. > > (I recommend almost 50% of GO BANG! which can be picked up very > inexpensively.) > > Hollie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:00:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: gnatmaniax: PIXIES On Sun, 5 Sep 2004, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > past the Cascade Mountains in a terrain called "high desert," which > looks more like California than Oregon. That's really funny because MOST of Oregon is high desert. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:14:41 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Progressive Rock Music in England: 1965-1975 http://www.conted.ox.ac.uk/courses/showCourse.asp?courseId=E04P414MSW Learn all about it! Cheers Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 03:33:23 -0700 From: "Randalljr" Subject: Lonely Feg Was I the only one at the Two Bells show a few hours ago? Eddie, Jeme, Cynthia? Nope. Seems like. Anyways, nice acoustic set. Robyn started out with some Beatles, and then Scott Mc joined him on various tunes. I don't think Robyn recognized me, but we had a nice little talk. Rock star sighting---The Presidents of the United States of America. 2 of them anyways. Tired, and a bit tipsy, Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:48:43 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #250 > Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 12:03:31 -0400 > From: Barbara Soutar > Rex asked about Fred Neil: > Fred Neil had the deepest voice ever, a rich bass with lovely control. > And he had a very sensitive nature, especially when it came to writing > songs about water and love. Yet it was other people's covers of his > songs which made him famous. Actually he has never been really famous... > I do believe he lived off the royalties he made from "Everybody's > Talking", so that's alright. I don't know the other versions you > mentioned. I especially recommend Song to the Siren... too beautiful. There was a very good article in Mojo about Fred Neil a few years ago. Apparently he got fed up with performing and became more and more dolphin-friendly instead. I got the impression that, like Phil Ochs, he became disoriented by the way that Bob Dylan suddenly shot from Greenwich Village to world fame. Before Nilsson released "Everybody's Talkin'", Fred Neil's best known song was "The other side of this life", which is on the Airplane's Monterey live set, and was something of a folk standard. A peculiar combination of talents combined to create a version produced by Frank Zappa and performed by Eric Burdon and the New Animals. > Also I have downloaded a nice version of The Water is Wide by Fred > Neil. Joan Baez did a lovely version as well. I believe it's a > traditional song. Anyone have any info on the origin of that song? > From: "Michael Wells" > "The song was orginally Waly, Waly, but in the 19th century came to be known > as The Water is Wide. The song was published in 1724. O Waly, Waly is > sometimes reported to be part of a longer ballad, Lord Jamie Douglas. > However, Douglas was first published by Herd (1776) where it states it is to > be sung to the tune of Waly, Waly, so it is fairly certain that Waly, Waly > is the earlier tune." > Godwin might remember more. From a quick websearch, there seem to be a huge number of versions, including Roger McGuinn, K D Lang, Buffy Saint-Marie, Sarah Brightman and Charlotte Church as well as the standard Celt-rock suspects. Intriguingly there are variants where the lover proves true as well as variants where the lover proves false. Glum version at: Gladsome version at: My guess is that the tune existed long before the words. Weirdly, Cecil Sharp collected the song right here in Somerset: although says that there was also a similar Scottish ballad. Those intervals certainly sound more Scottish than "Drink up thee zider"-ish to me, but perhaps those mediaeval folk didn't make those distinctions. - - Mike Godwin PS Watched Simon Rattle on TV last night conducting the Choral Symphony with the Berlin Phil. What an odd idea, hiring that big chorus and not using them till the last 15 minutes - I'd have interspersed those "Ooh yeah, canopy of stars" and "shoo bop shoo bop, even the worm has its desires" bits all the way through - that would have got them rockin' in two by two! n.p. Sarah Brightman "I fell in love with a starship trooper" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:51:02 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Airplane > Fred Neil's best known song was "The other side of this life", which > is on the > Airplane's Monterey live set It's also on Bless Its Pointed Little Head.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:35:31 -0500 From: steve Subject: New Miyazaki film (NR, NS) Time again to ask, "Doesn't Steve have anything else to do?" > Japanese animator casts spell over Venice fest > America invades, again > Ghibli geeks > Howl B poster The common belief is that Disney delayed three Miyazaki DVDs scheduled for 8/31 to tie into a domestic release of Howl sometime next year. - - Steve, AB+ __________ Break the cursing seal of love, new devil. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #251 ********************************