From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #249 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, September 4 2004 Volume 13 : Number 249 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Robyn on the Pixies [KCasey@aol.com] Re: Carl Wayne [Michael R Godwin ] for the Wire fans among us [Miles Goosens ] Yep, Roc [Miles Goosens ] Re: Miles Rupert [Miles Goosens ] Re: Jeff Buckley [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Brum/Tim vs Jeff/Wimpylimpy [James Dignan ] Re: Jeff Buckley ["Rex Broome" ] Re: Jeff Buckley ["Rex Broome" ] Re: Jeff Buckley [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Yep, Roc [Jeff Dwarf ] [none] [Jeff Dwarf ] Incidentally, [Jeff Dwarf ] Television ["Charlotte Tupman" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:22:45 EDT From: KCasey@aol.com Subject: Robyn on the Pixies In the current issue of the Portland Mercury, there is an article where people comment on the Pixies and the reunion tour. Here is the remark attributed to Robyn: It's great that the Pixies have thawed out intact. --Robyn Hitchcock, solo musician The rest of the article can be found here: http://www.portlandmercury.com/current/music.html Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 17:38:26 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Carl Wayne > Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 18:19:49 -0400 > Michael R Godwin wrote: > > Carl was replaced by the dreaded Jeff Lynne. > From: "Stewart C. Russell" > Hey, don't diss Jeff. Without Jeff, there'd be no Jason Lyttle, and I > don't think I could live without Grandaddy. Jeff writes memorable songs. > I listened to "Out Of The Blue" once in 1979. I listened to it for a > second time last week. I remembered all of the words to most of the > songs, and the playlist order. n.p. The Ballad of Horace Wimp QED - - MRG PS Rumours that I have been seen tapping my foot to "Telephone Line" are grossly exaggerated. Anyway, I was inebriated at the time. Besides which, I'm not sure that singalongability is necessarily a guarantee of quality. I can remember most of the words to "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:53:25 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: for the Wire fans among us In case you haven't heard yet: http://www.posteverything.com/artists/release.php?id=7967 It says "4 October" for the release date, but Posteverything is shipping the DVD/CD set direct to customers now. That entire 1979 Rockpalast performance was played as part of the evening with Wire at the Royal Festival Hall in February 2000, and I can say that the performance we saw via a grainy VHS projection that evening was just stunning, so I'm really looking forward to getting a spruced-up DVD. That evening at the Royal Festival Hall, the two previous iterations of Wire essentially opened for themselves (the '70s version via the Rockpalast footage; the '80s version via a performance on a Suzanne Somers-hosted talk show, including Somers' hopelessly inane attempt to interview the band between songs), which was very cool. (Newman/Spiegel project Immersion, Lewis project He Said, and a DJ set of Wire sounds from Mute's co-owners rounded out the evening.) And the actual Wire Mk. III set that evening is stil the best live show I've ever seen. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:57:43 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Yep, Roc I wonder if Charles S. Dutton records for them? Anyway, if you're looking for something else to order to justify your million-dollar east-of-the-Mississippi shipping charge for SPOOKED, I recommend the new Jason Ringenberg album, EMPIRE BUILDERS. Jason you'll remember from Jason & the Scorchers, and certainly one of the best things about living in Nashville is that I've been privileged to see Jason play many a great show, with or without the Scorchers. Anyway, his new record is splendid (and far better than I anticipate SPOOKED is going to be), so if you've got even a little twang in your heart, you oughta get one. That being said, you can cut out the middleman and get one shipped to you direct from Jason himself: http://www.jasonringenberg.com Staying in the Yep Roc world, I'm also fond of Los Straitjackets, who have to be the World's Greatest Surf Music Band Wearing Mexican Wrestling Masks; my friend Lori says the new Dave Alvin is tremendous, but since I always thought the Blasters were far too revivalist to hold my interest for more than a few songs and she always loved them unreservedly, I guess her "yay!" and my "ehh" are both predictable. But there's ya some more choices. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 16:17:09 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Miles Rupert At 01:32 PM 9/2/2004 -0400, Brian wrote: >> >Miles: >> >> bummed not to be named among "knowledgeable music Fegs" >> >> in Nuppy's post, especially in the "'80s Synthpop" >> >> subcategory. First they don't ask me about West Virginia >> >> stuff, now this! I'd better get my e-mail list resume >> >> in order... >> > >> >Are you Mr. Nellings or Rupert? Oh...sorry! >> >> If that's a reference, I don't get it. :-( > >It's not. Just a random thought. Sorry. Don't be. I'm usually in favor of randomness! >But since you pride yourself in 80s Synthpop, maybe you can recommend >other artist like Thomas Leer. That song Private Plane reminds me of >Messages of Dark or Mr. Deadly. The darker Hitchcocksynth. Hm, early Human League (pre-"Don't You Want Me," though I'm hardly dissing DARE) might be a good choice. Pete Shelley's first couple of solo albums, Colin Newman's A-Z... and while it's not synth-pop per se, Mike Thorne's contributions to Wire's CHAIRS MISSING and 154 have the same sort of dark, chilling effect on the proceedings as the Darker Hitchcocksynth (Thorne also produced the aforementioned Newman record) and are absolute essentials. Heck, I'd even recommend the Eurythmics' SWEET DREAMS (ARE MADE OF THIS) and SAVAGE. Yaz(oo) is maybe too dancy to fit, but Alf + Vince = fire + ice, whereas Andy + Vince = histrionic camp + ice. Oh, and Shriekback! Barry Andrews of XTC, Dave Allen of Gang of Four, dark and mysterious and ancient and deeply weird. I loved them so. Sadly, JAM SCIENCE has never made it all the way to CD (most of it's been released via various compilations, though "Hubris" and at least one other song still remain un-digitized), but OIL AND GOLD and BIG NIGHT MUSIC are both in-print and delicious. >> But on the other hand, I've >> bought some Monochrome Set stuff this year (I totally missed them back in >> th' day), so I figure that counts for something. > >Only if you are enjoying it! The answer there is "mostly yes." I have yet to reach your stage of blissful captivation, but I'm sorry to have missed them at the time; the early stuff in particular is delightful. More study awaits. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 11:26:13 -0400 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley Ok, I fell for Tim Buckley's voice when I was 15, it was the song Dolphins that did it. Fred Neil wrote that one, and I find that another Tim Buckley favourite, Song to the Siren was co-written with Fred Neil. So I guess it's that particular collaboration that really impressed me. I also find Sweet Surrender entirely and pleasingly sexual. Good old Tim lost his way a few times as he experimented with styles, lapsing into bad taste somewhere in the early 70's. Jeff I have a soft spot for. Especially when considering he was the image of his father in both face and voice. The story was that Tim rejected him even before he was born but came to have regrets over it. While listening to Tim's song Dream Letter I realized Jeff is the little boy of the song... these two guys break my heart. And that takes a lot of doing as I'm a fairly cold-hearted person most of the time. Those two Buckley men had magic voices I tell you! Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 11:31:25 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Brum/Tim vs Jeff/Wimpylimpy Godders wrote: >PS I saw something about a Birmingham groups reunion gig quite recently, >which CW was involved with. I don't know enough about the Birmingham >scene, but some notable bands had their origins there: The Moody Blues, >Denny Laine, Steve Gibbons, Spooky Tooth, Balls, the Move, The Idle Race, >ELO, Black Sabbath, etc. Don't forget Spencer Davis/Traffic/Steve Winwood! Palle said: >Oddly, I like Tim Buckley quite a bit, but have never warmed to Jeff's >music. Add another one to that number. I rarely if ever pull out my copy of "Grace", but "Greetings from L.A." gets quite a few spins. Brian scribbled: >Would *you* consider this music 'whimpsy limpsy'? Taken in context of its times, definitely not, though in retrospect I can understand the comment. Michael's mentioned people like Let's Active in this sort of comparison, and bands like Microdisney and Blue Nile were making their names at that time too. James np - Worldes Blysse, by the Mediaeval Baebes nf - Russia, at half mast :( - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:58:16 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley Barbara: > Ok, I fell for Tim Buckley's voice when I was 15, it was the song > Dolphins that did it. Fred Neil wrote that one, and I find that another > Tim Buckley favourite, Song to the Siren was co-written with Fred Neil. > So I guess it's that particular collaboration that really impressed me. I've never heard Tim's version of that song, but I love the cover by Billy Bragg, and the duet version by Beth Orton & Terry Callier. Fred Neil also wrote "Everybody's Talking", didn't he? Often wondered if I should look up his stuff, although I don't know how much he actually recorded as opposed to just writing. I know, I could look it up, but... - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:58:16 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley Barbara: > Ok, I fell for Tim Buckley's voice when I was 15, it was the song > Dolphins that did it. Fred Neil wrote that one, and I find that another > Tim Buckley favourite, Song to the Siren was co-written with Fred Neil. > So I guess it's that particular collaboration that really impressed me. I've never heard Tim's version of that song, but I love the cover by Billy Bragg, and the duet version by Beth Orton & Terry Callier. Fred Neil also wrote "Everybody's Talking", didn't he? Often wondered if I should look up his stuff, although I don't know how much he actually recorded as opposed to just writing. I know, I could look it up, but... - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 00:34:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley Rex Broome wrote: > I've never heard Tim's version of ("Dolphins") but I love > the cover by Billy Bragg, and the duet version by Beth > Orton & Terry Callier. Fred Neil also wrote "Everybody's > Talkin", didn't he? Often wondered if I should look up > his stuff, although I don't know how much he actually > recorded as opposed to just writing. I know, I could > look it up, but... I have a double CD on Collector's Choice of all his Capitol stuff. It's fairly good, though I don't listen to it that often. Neil's voice sort of sounds like a morphing of Nilsson and Nick Cave, kinda molassesy. I definitely like his version of "Everybody's Talkin'" more than Nilsson's; his "Dolphins" vs. Bragg's is a push. ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 00:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Yep, Roc Miles Goosens wrote: > I wonder if Charles S. Dutton records for them? Nothing like a reference to a failed sitcom that managed the strange accomplishment of never being funny enough but still being watchable and frequently enjoyable. Great cast, but it always felt like they were trying so hard to retain their dignity that they never let go enough to be as funny as they should have been. > Anyway, if you're looking for something else to order to > justify your million-dollar east-of-the-Mississippi > shipping charge for SPOOKED, I recommend the new Jason > Ringenberg album, EMPIRE BUILDERS. Jason you'll remember > from Jason & the Scorchers, and certainly one of the best > things about living in Nashville is that I've been > privileged to see Jason play many a great show, with or > without the Scorchers. Anyway, his new record is > splendid (and far better than I anticipate SPOOKED is > going to be), so if you've got even a little twang in > your heart, you oughta get one. > > That being said, you can cut out the middleman and get > one shipped to you direct from Jason himself: > > http://www.jasonringenberg.com > > Staying in the Yep Roc world, I'm also fond of Los > Straitjackets, who have to be the World's Greatest Surf > Music Band Wearing Mexican Wrestling Masks; my friend > Lori says the new Dave Alvin is tremendous, but since I > always thought the Blasters were far too revivalist to > hold my interest for more than a few songs and she always > loved them unreservedly, I guess her "yay!" and my "ehh" > are both predictable. But there's ya some more choices. > > later, > > Miles > ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 05:07:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: [none] http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1086492.html ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 05:33:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Incidentally, I am assuming from the lack of reap notice here (as well as not being able to find any article confirming it) that Stephen King is still wandering around the Earth waiting for the Redsox to never win the World Series.... ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 18:09:18 +0100 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: Television Am I the only feg who has been walking around for the last few days singing bing-a-bong-a-BING BONG, BING BONG incessantly? Im beginning to wish that YepRoc had selected a different track for download  it would at least have delayed my descent into bing-bong-related insanity by another few weeks Charlotte _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #249 ********************************