From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #243 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 27 2004 Volume 13 : Number 243 Today's Subjects: ----------------- inevitable joke ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: Just wood and wire: amp advice needed [] Re: inevitable joke [Tom Clark ] Re: reap [James Dignan ] Re: Munchs of Doom [James Dignan ] Tech-Vexed Rex Lex: ["Mark Gloster" ] Re: Tech-Vexed Rex Lex: ["Rex Broome" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #242 [Michael R Godwin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #242 [Michael R Godwin ] RE: Bands not seen (yet or ever) ["Eb" ] re: Syd+ ["Eb" ] Believe in Love... erm, Baby Lemonade ["Rex Broome" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:27:51 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: inevitable joke >Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, 78. 1. No! it can't be! 2. Why couldn't someone else have died instead? 3. Dammit! 4. Oh God, why? 5. Oh, OK. n. _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:05:35 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Just wood and wire: amp advice needed [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:58 , Rex Broome sent: >I've been eyeballing the Fender Deluxe reissue (keeping it real with the tubes and whatnot), but I'll entertain anything at this point , as long as it's reliable, relatively simple, and sounds good. I've been using a JC120 on and off for the last 10 years. It has floated between 3 musicians and an unreal number of bands and venues but it has not given anyone a single problem yet. The JC120 is the number one combo in my opinion, it uses a solid-state amp. I have also been using a Fender Blues Deville 4x10 that has worked very well. It is very loud. I think it was/is also available in a smaller 2x12 model. I do not know if either are still being made. It is an all tube amp that came with 2-6L6 and 3-12AX7 tubes. I have used and owned a number of other combos but these are the best two. >Also in the market for a trusty overdrive/fuzzbox that I don't have to think about too much. The TC Electronics line drive, boost and distortion box (of which I have never seen anyone but myself use) is king. It has a noise suppressor/threshold knob which really helps. I think they stopped making them about 15 years ago. If you ever see one, get it! And then send it to me, so I can have a backup. gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:40:07 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: inevitable joke On Aug 26, 2004, at 12:27 PM, Natalie Jacobs wrote: >> Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, 78. > > 1. No! it can't be! > 2. Why couldn't someone else have died instead? > 3. Dammit! > 4. Oh God, why? > 5. Oh, OK. > Hey look, Natalie made a funny! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:17:23 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: reap >Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, 78. well, if anyone was prepared for it, she was. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:17:32 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Munchs of Doom >My brother is a huge fan of Munch and is pretty jazzed to have >nieces who are blood relations. Of course one does worry about the >resurgence of the genes relating to good ol' Edvard's mental health >(or lack thereof), but I figure if nothing else I'll keep them away >from the absinthe and hope for the best. > >- -Rex it's a shame it's not another Feg who's related - otherwise we could make bad puns about "Capuchin Munchs". James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:35:03 -0700 From: "Mark Gloster" Subject: Tech-Vexed Rex Lex: > Okay, so my old Twin Reverb has eaten it again, and I kinda need an amp > more than usual at this particular point in my life. So I'm thinking new > (read: reliable for at least a few years), and wondered if anyone had any > advice or hot tips or whatever... offlist is fine (or not)... So, here's my deal. A number of years ago, I used a Mesa Boogie Mark III and a Roland Jazz Chorus stack to make what I believe was about the coolest sound ever. Somehow, I think I could make a religion about it. Whether playing an assortment of Ricks (their whole stereo thing really made this the most amazing experience), Fenders, S.D. Curlee, Kramers- even my frikken craptacular Ibanez and Yamaha electrics could sound good in them. Of course, the Ibanezes and the Yamahas were just passible. Eventually, my body kinda gave out from just moving the Boogie, which is made entirely of unusual stuff. I'm guessing that its componentry were forged from the core matter of a black hole. Heretical truth: the weird thing that I figured out after having a bunch of really great amps was that they tend to mostly or only matter to the person playing them. That walking into a bar and closing my eyes and trying to guess the equipment of the guitarist, I was always wrong. In a band situation, I've learned that being able to carry something that can make a few good sounds- maybe very good sounds- is better than trying to put together the ultimate. This also seems to work in the studio, where I've almost entirely done away with micing (I hate that spelling) an amp. This brings us to the crux of the story: A number of years ago I went out and bought a Line6 twin Spider amp. It has 2- 8 or 10" speakers. It cost a little over $200 new at the time. I also bought the big pedal board that was probably more than twice as much. I have since bought a POD for studio stuff, because using a headphone out of an amp for recording just kind of gives me the wigglies. This is a completely solid state amp and has been dragged around quite a bit. I spend most of my time with one clean preset and then can set up others for occasional use. This works well with my teles, ricks, sitar guitar, etc., etc., etc... I guess my preference would be to add a small tube amp that I could carry, but the way all of this works for me is really surprisingly great, and if I ever get fun money again, it will be a very low priortity to go amp crazy. The only things I don't like about Fenders is that they are highly susceptible to buzz, and a lot of the older (really great sounding ones) are not terribly reliable. That all said, I could give you a _very_ long list of amps I covet. Probably starts with Matchless. Hope this helps, - -El Sharko Loco ps. Eddie, "Glostermania" in my dictionary actually involves a clinically manic behavior of a specific, but different "family of dorks" from that of the evil, hateful, stupid US President. Nevertheless, It is nice to be remenbered. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:06:41 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Tech-Vexed Rex Lex: Mark G: >>Eventually, my body kinda > gave out from just moving the Boogie, which is made entirely of unusual > stuff. I'm guessing that its componentry were forged from the core matter of > a black hole. Heh... I've always claimed that the Twin was driven by a bank of 6L6's and one neutron star right behind the pre-amp. Bitch is heavy. >In a band > situation, I've learned that being able to carry something that can make a > few good sounds- maybe very good sounds- is better than trying to put > together the ultimate. That's about where I am. Some have a gift for keeping two amps, seventeen outboard pedals and a bunch of rack-mounted shit working cleanly from show to show. I was always getting to the gig and finding out that at least three of the cables in my chain had crapped out since rehearsal the day before. I want clean and simple, dude. Verb from the amp, fuzz from an indestructible metal box, and a couple of nylon picks. End of story. > The only things I don't like about Fenders is that they are highly > susceptible to buzz, and a lot of the older (really great sounding ones) are > not terribly reliable. Word to that. Which is why I lean towards new. That way even if it breaks, it'll be broken for the first, as opposed to fifty-first time. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:00:48 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #242 > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:59:17 -0700 > From: "Marc Holden" > Subject: Re: unseen > I've seen all of them a total of about 15 times (1/2/4/5/3). At least you'll > probably still get a chance to see most of those. Mike Godwin has probably > seen nearly everyone on my top 5 (6) "too late to see" list: > Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd * Yes, twice in '66 and 4 times in '67 > Jimi Hendrix * Yes, twice in '67 (good year, all things considered) > The Who (w/Keith Moon) * Yes, briefly in '66, then at Bath Pav in '69 and '71, and once at the Rainbow a year or two later. > The Bonzo Dog Band * Gosh, yes. 3 times IIRC. Best was the Savile Theatre in '67 supporting the Cream, but they were good at the Hampstead Country Club too. > The Beatles * No, they had stopped performing live before I started going to gigs in late '66. I could easily have got to the Apple roof show if anyone had told me it was on! (Incidentally, I just got a letter from an old mate who started hanging out some months before I did, and caught both John Mayall's Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton, and Bob Dylan and the Hawks at the Albert Hall!). > Velvet Underground * Yes, on that reunion tour in the year with the Roman date. Last time I tried to decipher it I got it wrong by 5 years. > (where's a time machine when you need it?) * It's got stuck in the year 809,533 without any replacement batteries. > Currently, my top 5 "Unseen" are: > Roky Erickson > Neil Innes > The Chills > Queens of the Stoneage > The Hives * Once saw Neil do a hilarious show at Bath Pump Room (normally a very genteel afternoon tea place). > > reunions I would like to see happen: > The Jam > Cream > Talking Heads * Can't imagine Cream doing it as I think they are all in various stages of mental decline. But I believe they did turn up and play at the R'n'R Hall of Fame once? I assume that if David Byrne was willing, the THs would do a show. But perhaps not? > > Need to get back to reality now and get back to work. Later, Marc Rex: > [Arthur's] beef seemed to be that he tried to buy food in France and the > vendor refused to speak English. This was over a vamp at the end of one > song (forget which one), and as he went into it you could see the band > members look at each other and go, oh, shit, this might be bad, and they > wound down toute de suite, as it were. They've got a noive, those French people, talking their own language in their own pays. You got the impression that the band had had some similar trouble previously? My information is that they were originally a group called Baby Lemonade. Did they issue any stuff under that name? Was it any good? - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:00:48 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #242 > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:59:17 -0700 > From: "Marc Holden" > Subject: Re: unseen > I've seen all of them a total of about 15 times (1/2/4/5/3). At least you'll > probably still get a chance to see most of those. Mike Godwin has probably > seen nearly everyone on my top 5 (6) "too late to see" list: > Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd * Yes, twice in '66 and 4 times in '67 > Jimi Hendrix * Yes, twice in '67 (good year, all things considered) > The Who (w/Keith Moon) * Yes, briefly in '66, then at Bath Pav in '69 and '71, and once at the Rainbow a year or two later. > The Bonzo Dog Band * Gosh, yes. 3 times IIRC. Best was the Savile Theatre in '67 supporting the Cream, but they were good at the Hampstead Country Club too. > The Beatles * No, they had stopped performing live before I started going to gigs in late '66. I could easily have got to the Apple roof show if anyone had told me it was on! (Incidentally, I just got a letter from an old mate who started hanging out some months before I did, and caught both John Mayall's Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton, and Bob Dylan and the Hawks at the Albert Hall!). > Velvet Underground * Yes, on that reunion tour in the year with the Roman date. Last time I tried to decipher it I got it wrong by 5 years. > (where's a time machine when you need it?) * It's got stuck in the year 809,533 without any replacement batteries. > Currently, my top 5 "Unseen" are: > Roky Erickson > Neil Innes > The Chills > Queens of the Stoneage > The Hives * Once saw Neil do a hilarious show at Bath Pump Room (normally a very genteel afternoon tea place). > > reunions I would like to see happen: > The Jam > Cream > Talking Heads * Can't imagine Cream doing it as I think they are all in various stages of mental decline. But I believe they did turn up and play at the R'n'R Hall of Fame once? I assume that if David Byrne was willing, the THs would do a show. But perhaps not? > > Need to get back to reality now and get back to work. Later, Marc Rex: > [Arthur's] beef seemed to be that he tried to buy food in France and the > vendor refused to speak English. This was over a vamp at the end of one > song (forget which one), and as he went into it you could see the band > members look at each other and go, oh, shit, this might be bad, and they > wound down toute de suite, as it were. They've got a noive, those French people, talking their own language in their own pays. You got the impression that the band had had some similar trouble previously? My information is that they were originally a group called Baby Lemonade. Did they issue any stuff under that name? Was it any good? - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:36:16 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: Bands not seen (yet or ever) Rex: > >>"Favorite Band Which I Don't Actually Like" > > Good category. I'd have to think on that one. My answer might be someone > all of whose records I have, and like, but don't spin all that often and > have never gone through a compulsive listening period about... Roxy? But I > really do like them... hmmm... My list might include Radiohead, Wilco, Built to Spill, Apples in Stereo, the Handsome Family, the Chemical Brothers...mmm....maybe even Eminem. I'm sure there are other borderline names which I'm forgetting. > -Mission of Burma > -Willie Nelson > -Patti Smith (missed her opening for Neil Young because I lost my tickets!) > -John Cale > -Ray Davies / The Kinks Seen Burma, Patti and Cale. I'd like to see the Kinks, but I figure their time has passed. And now that Dave is so messed up, their time has *really* passed. > Near misses for the top 5 might include Luna, Roger McGuinn, PJ Harvey (whom > I saw duet with Howe Gelb for all of one song), Mekons, Tom Waits, Pere Ubu, > Vic Chesnutt, Bowie, New Pornographers, Lou Reed and Peter Gabriel. I've > accepted not having seen the Who, because... well, just because. I've seen *all* of those. ;) > Related file: Top Five Artists Whom I Have No Excuse for Not Seeing Before > They Died/Broke Up: > -Waylon Jennings > -Warren Zevon > -Strummer > -Nirvana > -Pavement Seen Strummer, Nirvana and Pavement. Wouldn't go see Waylon or Warren. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:39:18 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: re: Syd+ You really need to post exhaustive accounts of all those shows. ;) Did you ever see England Dan and/or John Ford Coley? I hear their solo shows are a pale shadow of their past concerts together. Eb - -----Original Message----- From: Michael R Godwin Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 7:01 AM > Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd * Yes, twice in '66 and 4 times in '67 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:54:31 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Believe in Love... erm, Baby Lemonade Mike G: > They've got a noive, those French people, talking their own language in > their own pays. You got the impression that the band had had some > similar trouble previously? Problems with the French, or problems with Lee going off? Yes on the latter... there was a real "Uh oh, he's off... let's wrap this one up!" kind of vibe. > My information is that they were originally a group called Baby Lemonade. > Did they issue any stuff under that name? Was it any good? They still are. I guess Baby Lemonade -> Arthur Lee : Wondermints -> Brian Wilson. ISTR that there was bad blood at some point and Lee was using someone else as "Love", but BL was his band before and after his jail stint (in fact it was a stage comment from Exene that confirmed that. I don't know Baby Lemonade's own stuff, but, hey, the play with Lee, are named after a Syd song, and have a guitarist with the exact same name as one of my best friends (Mike Randle), so they must be okay. They have several albums and I keep hoping to stumble across one in the used bins... no luck thus far. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:54:31 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Believe in Love... erm, Baby Lemonade Mike G: > They've got a noive, those French people, talking their own language in > their own pays. You got the impression that the band had had some > similar trouble previously? Problems with the French, or problems with Lee going off? Yes on the latter... there was a real "Uh oh, he's off... let's wrap this one up!" kind of vibe. > My information is that they were originally a group called Baby Lemonade. > Did they issue any stuff under that name? Was it any good? They still are. I guess Baby Lemonade -> Arthur Lee : Wondermints -> Brian Wilson. ISTR that there was bad blood at some point and Lee was using someone else as "Love", but BL was his band before and after his jail stint (in fact it was a stage comment from Exene that confirmed that. I don't know Baby Lemonade's own stuff, but, hey, the play with Lee, are named after a Syd song, and have a guitarist with the exact same name as one of my best friends (Mike Randle), so they must be okay. They have several albums and I keep hoping to stumble across one in the used bins... no luck thus far. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:47:35 -0500 From: steve Subject: Guys, mostly, showing off their equipment Some kilobuck music systems. - - Steve __________ Misadvised by a frustrated and panic-stricken attorney general, a president of the United States has just assumed what amounts to dictatorial power to jail or execute aliens. - William Safire ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #243 ********************************