From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #242 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, August 26 2004 Volume 13 : Number 242 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: White Riot on the Sunset Strip [Jeff Dwarf ] REAP ["Maximilian Lang" ] RE: Neil and Edvard ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: Arthur Lee live ["Eb" ] Re: unseen ["Marc Holden" ] re: neil down [] RE: unseen ["Eb" ] No Love for France ["Rex.Broome" ] REM Sucks [Tom Clark ] Munchs of Doom ["Rex Broome" ] Seen and not seen ["Rex Broome" ] RE: Seen and not seen ["Bachman, Michael" ] Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Just wood and wire: amp advice needed ["Rex Broome" Subject: Re: White Riot on the Sunset Strip "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Camper Van Beethoven: [... ] > Country cover of "White Riot" now sits right next to > vintage fiddle version of "Wasted" in the set list. Probably similar the version recorded by Cracker (with Jonathan Segal) on the pretty horrible Clash tribute record _Burning London_ a couple years back. I sold it back (saving it and The Afghan Whigs doing "Lost in the Supermarket," the only other decent track on a burn), but I think in the liner notes Lowery said CVB used to do it live, which is why Segal was on the recording so he couple replicate his old violin part. ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:55:50 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: REAP Al Dvorin has left the building. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:24:55 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Neil and Edvard >Nat: > >>After the Gold Rush is my second Neil album, my first > >>being Live Rust, which I got a couple of months ago. I suppose >my next pick > >>will be whatever record has "Like a Hurricane" on it, because I >fell in love > >>with that song after seeing Jay Farrar perform it live a while back. > >This requires wisdom. Rex wrote: >>The official original release of "Like a Hurricane" is on the >>only-recently-issued on CD "American Stars 'N' Bars" (although it's >>been digitally available on "Decade" for years). AS'N'B, for all >>its arguable odds-n-sodsy charms, should NOT be anyone's third Neil >>Young record James came back with: >FWIW, although it doesn't contain "LAH", if you found "ATGR" to your >taste, then Harvest should be your next pick, IMHO. I'd add a nod to >"On the Beach", too, though. I should probably chime in with my vote for the only Neil Young release from the 1970's that hasn't been mentioned yet, "Comes A Time". It's got a little bit of everything, but for me the acoustic songs stand out, with some nice harmony singing from Nicolette Larson. The cover of Ian and Sylvia's Four Strong Winds, Neil's homage to Canadian folk, is really tasty. It's not something you should buy before "On The Beach" or "Zuma", but I like it just as much as "Harvest" and better than AS'N'B or anything from the 1980's that Neil did. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:08:53 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Neil and Edvard >Eb & James: >> >How about "The Scream" being stolen? Isn't that amazing?? >> >> not to mention (which is exactly what most news sources did) that >> they got Munch's amazing "Madonna" as well. > >Here's my annual reminder to the feglist that my children share >genes with Mr. Munch. Usually happens way before late August. one of my faviourite painters - and one that I've been clearly influenced by on at least one of my paintings (see for the evidence, my painting "The wrong scrapbook (Twisted sisters)"!) James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:51:21 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: Arthur Lee live When I saw Arthur Lee a couple of years (?) ago, I specifically remember being impressed by what good shape his voice was in. Hrm. Speaking of decayed voices, my current film-in-progress is that Bob Dylan bomb, "Masked & Anonymous." Not as bad as I heard, but still pretty bad. One of those films where every character can drop an unnaturally "philosophical" monologue at a moment's notice, and you just feel like you're listening to the screenwriter's own crafted spiels. I've had "Heroes & Villains" solidly stuck in my head for a day. Eb - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michael R Godwin Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:37 AM To: CrabJawNeuronControllers Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #240 Maybe it was a bad day. I thought his voice was much better than I expected (but then maybe I didn't expect very much). How old is he? 62? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:59:17 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: unseen Eb said: > My top five remaining "Unseen" bands probably are > Belle & Sebastian, Tortoise, Springsteen, McCartney and the Strokes. But > maybe I'm forgetting someone. I've seen all of them a total of about 15 times (1/2/4/5/3). At least you'll probably still get a chance to see most of those. Mike Godwin has probably seen nearly everyone on my top 5 (6) "too late to see" list: Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd Jimi Hendrix The Who (w/Keith Moon) The Bonzo Dog Band The Beatles Velvet Underground (where's a time machine when you need it?) Currently, my top 5 "Unseen" are: Roky Erickson Neil Innes The Chills Queens of the Stoneage The Hives reunions I would like to see happen: The Jam Cream Talking Heads Need to get back to reality now and get back to work. Later, Marc I wish everybody would have to have an electric thing implanted in our heads that gave us a shock whenever we did something to disobey the president. Then somehow I get myself elected president. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:59:21 -0500 From: Subject: re: neil down [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:06 , Eb ElBroome@earthlink.net> sent: >Was anything on TV this weekend besides hours and hours and hours of Olympic >beach volleyball? Just curious. Yeah. I have been watching hours and hours of soccer, field hockey, diving, gymnastics, boxing, fencing, weightlifting, sailing, judo, badminton and even archery, to list a few. What channel were you watching? Check the tv guide or one of the olympic schedule sites. There is lots of other stuff to watch, if beach volleyball so offends. >Speaking of asinine exploitative pseudo-sports, I'm going to see a live >taping of "RAW" tonight with Lawndart, so if you get Spike TV and like >wrestling, look for me. I'll be front-row. So are you saying "professional wrestling/scripted bad dance theatre" is comparable in quality, skill-level, training and competitiveness to the sport of beach volleyball on the olympic level? Or any other level? gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:25:49 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: unseen I eliminate "too late to see" acts from my "unseen" list. Whether it's because of death, a breakup, shunning live performances, being hopelessly over-the-hill or whatever. I feel like my "unseen" list is deceptively mainstream, because several of the ranking names are arena-level acts whose tickets are much more of a hassle to get. Springsteen, McCartney, Stones, Sarah McLachlan, Yes, Cheap Trick...none of these are passions of mine in their current incarnation but, hey, that's who is left. Heck, I'd even get a kick out of seeing KISS sometime. ;) I can't remember the last act I crossed off, before Built to Spill. Recent shows have been more about repeat visits. Perhaps it was Mark Lanegan. I could have seen *several* worthy bands for the first time if I had shelled out for the Coachella extravaganza, including my #1 Belle & Sebastian. Que sera. I've seen Neil Innes once, the Chills three or four times and QOTSA once. Don't have a lot of interest in seeing Roky or the Hives. I have two Roky Erickson albums, but I've always felt like his "mad genius" reputation was only half appropriate. "Mad," yes.... Eb - -----Original Message----- Marc Holden: I've seen all of them a total of about 15 times (1/2/4/5/3). At least you'll probably still get a chance to see most of those. Mike Godwin has probably seen nearly everyone on my top 5 (6) "too late to see" list: Currently, my top 5 "Unseen" are: Roky Erickson Neil Innes The Chills Queens of the Stoneage The Hives ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:52:43 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: No Love for France Mike Godwin: >>Maybe it was a bad day. I thought his voice was much better than I >>expected (but then maybe I didn't expect very much). Well, I said "variable" and in fact at times it was quite good, but I got the feeling he wasn't comfortable with the mix... his vocals were way out front, which I assume was because he was billed as a solo artist, but those are very "band-y" songs and it just kinda seemed to throw him. Man, it was good to hear those tunes, though. >>Well, I can understand why Arthur gets a bit worked up about jail >>sentences, but not about France. His beef seemed to be that he tried to buy food in France and the vendor refused to speak English. This was over a vamp at the end of one song (forget which one), and as he went into it you could see the band members look at each other and go, oh, shit, this might be bad, and they wound down toute de suite, as it were. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:37:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: REM Sucks So I was just subjected to REM's "Leaving New York", which I subsequently found out is their new single. All I can say is: Please, somebody please, tell Michael Stipe to just SHUT THE FUCK UP! This had to be the whiniest piece of drivel I've heard all year - and I have a two year old daughter. - -tc np (to take my mind off of the above): http://www.somafm.com/recent/?secretagent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:48:07 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Munchs of Doom James: > one of my faviourite painters - and one that I've been clearly > influenced by on at least one of my paintings (see > > for the evidence, my painting "The wrong scrapbook (Twisted > sisters)"!) Cool. None of Edvard's own works have come down through the family, but the wife and I do have a self-portrait in oils by his first cousin Sophie Mellbye, which is actually a very nice piece in its own right, and bears an eerie resemblance to my wife (Sophie's great-granddaughter). My brother is a huge fan of Munch and is pretty jazzed to have nieces who are blood relations. Of course one does worry about the resurgence of the genes relating to good ol' Edvard's mental health (or lack thereof), but I figure if nothing else I'll keep them away from the absinthe and hope for the best. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:15:41 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Seen and not seen Eb: > I eliminate "too late to see" acts from my "unseen" list. Whether it's > because of death, a breakup, shunning live performances, being hopelessly > over-the-hill or whatever. My "too late" list consists of only acts which were active when I started to be capable of going to gigs, but aren't any more. > I feel like my "unseen" list is deceptively mainstream, because several of > the ranking names are arena-level acts whose tickets are much more of a > hassle to get. Mine, too. Did see the Stones in '89, though. Took me forever to see Dylan, though. >I have two Roky > Erickson albums, but I've always felt like his "mad genius" reputation was > only half appropriate. "Mad," yes.... I love Roky's songs. I don't know about genius, but there's a real spook there, a uniqueness not easily dismissed as instability. I can't say for certain that I'd enjoy (or be comfortable) seeing the man play live music, but I am grateful every time some of his music sees the light of day, even if you have to dig through some dicey and exploitative releases to get to it. Oh, and re: the new subject heading: anyone heard the new version of The Name of This Band Is Talking Heads? I keep looking for it but not finding it on the shelves... - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:38:23 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Seen and not seen Rex wrote: >Oh, and re: the new subject heading: anyone heard the new version of The Name of This Band Is Talking >Heads? I keep looking for it but not finding it on the shelves... Mine just showed up yesterday from amazon.com, but I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. 19 cuts on disc 1: 1977-1979 and 14 cuts on Disc 2: 1980-1981. I bought the double LP on vinyl way back when I saw them in the Summer of 1983. Now that was a great concert! They ran out of songs to do and ended up doing Burning Down The House a second time in the last encore! Tanya Donelly's "Whiskey Tango Ghost" also showed up, which is also on my list of things to listen to this weekend, or tomorrow on my 3 hour drive to Lake Michigan. Michael B. NP Blondie - Plastic Letters ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:02:32 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: compelling additions to EMusic.com Today, Editions PAF! and Yep Roc both made their content available on EMusic.com. Go see! - -- Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:31:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap Dennis Miles, aka D-Roc, of Ice-Ts not terribly good (to put it mildly) hard-rock band Body Count, has died after a battle with lymphoma. ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:21:18 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, 78. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:58:54 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Just wood and wire: amp advice needed Okay, so my old Twin Reverb has eaten it again, and I kinda need an amp more than usual at this particular point in my life. So I'm thinking new (read: reliable for at least a few years), and wondered if anyone had any advice or hot tips or whatever... offlist is fine (or not)... I'm currently playing a pair of fairly standard-issue Rickenbackers (one six-string and one 12-string), but I'm prone to switching "main" guitars between the 6-string Ricky and an old Tele Deluxe (which is a dual-humbucker thingy, Fender-style). In the past I've tended to play mostly lead guitar, but in my current band I'm suddenly singing lead and playing a lot more rhythm, although that could change. The band is a 4-piece guitar/guitar/bass/drum thing; the other guitarist is playing single-coil guitars through one of those newfangled "modeling amps". I've been eyeballing the Fender Deluxe reissue (keeping it real with the tubes and whatnot), but I'll entertain anything at this point , as long as it's reliable, relatively simple, and sounds good. Also in the market for a trusty overdrive/fuzzbox that I don't have to think about too much. My ideal distortion sound is in that warm Crazy Horse realm (admittedly not a great match for the Rickenbackers, but that's what I like) although the Bob Mould wall-of-noise option has certain applications in my tunes. Thanks, kids... - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #242 ********************************