From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #241 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, August 25 2004 Volume 13 : Number 241 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: White Riot on the Sunset Strip ["Eb" ] From the upcoming Smile album ["Eb" ] Bands not seen (yet or ever) ["Rex Broome" ] Trans!!! [Luther Wills-Dudich ] Glostermania! ["The Mammal Brain" ] Re: Glostermania! ["Fortissimo" ] Neeeeiiiilllll!!!! continued ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: Glostermania! [Capuchin ] Re: Glostermania! [Capuchin ] Re: Neil and Edvard [James Dignan ] Re: Neeeeiiiilllll!!!! continued ["Rex Broome" ] Re: Neeeeiiiilllll!!!! continued ["Rex Broome" ] Re: Neil and Edvard ["Rex Broome" ] RE: From the upcoming Smile album ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Glostermania! [steve ] re: White Riot on the Sunset Strip ["Marc Holden" ] Re: From the upcoming Smile album [Eb ] Re: From the upcoming Smile album ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: From the upcoming Smile album [Capuchin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #240 [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:51:09 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: White Riot on the Sunset Strip What makes you say the Smiths have a huge LA-latino fanbase? I've never been aware of such a thing. And anyway, doesn't *everyone* think the Smiths are a dreary bore?? That was my impression.... Camper Van Beethoven were live on 103.1 yesterday, performing and being interviewed by Steve "Jonesy" Jones. Enjoyable segment. Incidentally, did I mention that I saw Built to Spill for the first time about a week ago? I'm no more than a borderline fan of BTS (one of the prime nominees for my "Favorite Band Which I Don't Actually Like" award), but I had been curious about them for awhile and they ranked high on my private "Unseen" list. It was a strong show, I guess -- it was a relief to see the band minus that tediously formulaic vocal mix which characterizes every Built to Spill studio track -- but they didn't convert me. I enjoyed the guitar interplay between Martsch and whoever is with him, however. It was similar to the Television vibe, whereas Martsch played the clean, syncopated notes and the other guy provided the random outbursts and noise. Was that ex-Spinane Scott Plouf on drums? A friend asked me, and I wasn't sure. Opening was On the Speakers, who weren't too bad. Typical '90s indie-rock a la Chapel Hill. Wanky peripheral note: My top five remaining "Unseen" bands probably are Belle & Sebastian, Tortoise, Springsteen, McCartney and the Strokes. But maybe I'm forgetting someone. Eb - -----Original Message----- Sweet & Tender Hooligans: Very popular local Smiths cover band. Culturally interesting because of the huge Morrissey fan base among LA latinos which keeps them in business. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:43:56 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: From the upcoming Smile album http://www.princeton.edu/~vperry/blog/h &v04.mp3 Wow, this sounds GREAT! Not like a "dubious 2004 rethink" at all. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:52:55 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Bands not seen (yet or ever) Eb > What makes you say the Smiths have a huge LA-latino fanbase? I've never been > aware of such a thing. Eb, I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not! If so, it's pretty funny. If not, my sources include (A) everyone I've talked to who's been to a Morrissey show in LA for the last half decade or so, and (B) every concert review, or indeed piece of Morrissey/Smiths-related journalism written by LA critics over that same period. I've been told that the latest Morrissey LP even has a song dedicated to that segment of his following. > And anyway, doesn't *everyone* think the Smiths are a > dreary bore?? That was my impression.... Apparently not... I've even gotten my ass kicked right here on feg for being lukewarm about the Smiths and utterly uninterested in solo Morrissey. >>"Favorite Band Which I Don't Actually Like" Good category. I'd have to think on that one. My answer might be someone all of whose records I have, and like, but don't spin all that often and have never gone through a compulsive listening period about... Roxy? But I really do like them... hmmm... > My top five remaining "Unseen" bands probably are > Belle & Sebastian, Tortoise, Springsteen, McCartney and the Strokes. But > maybe I'm forgetting someone. Thread? I'm fine not having seen any of these except Springsteen (of whom I'm not a huge fan but assume I will be some day and regret not having seen him earlier). As for my top five, I've knocked down a lot of them recently (including this past weekend), so that probably leaves, barring unexpected reunions, literal bodily resurrections, or astonishing recoveries from debilitating mental illness: - -Mission of Burma - -Willie Nelson - -Patti Smith (missed her opening for Neil Young because I lost my tickets!) - -John Cale - -Ray Davies / The Kinks Near misses for the top 5 might include Luna, Roger McGuinn, PJ Harvey (whom I saw duet with Howe Gelb for all of one song), Mekons, Tom Waits, Pere Ubu, Vic Chesnutt, Bowie, New Pornographers, Lou Reed and Peter Gabriel. I've accepted not having seen the Who, because... well, just because. Related file: Top Five Artists Whom I Have No Excuse for Not Seeing Before They Died/Broke Up: - -Waylon Jennings - -Warren Zevon - -Strummer - -Nirvana - -Pavement I've seen a lot of key now-dead artists. I give myself a pass on missing Husker Du because they were gone before I got my driver's license. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:17:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Luther Wills-Dudich Subject: Trans!!! Hey, I loved "Trans" in High school! I think it's still my once and future bandmate (and twin brother) Dave's favorite album...Neil YOung meets Gary Numan...I think it works. "Computer cowboy" has a damn fine riff. "We are in control"---ok, the vocodder stuff is chessy, but I think it works. And the video of the Trans band in berlin (featuring Nils Lofgren) is surprisingly good. Also, no one talks about the three acoustic songs taked onto the album..."Like an Inca" is a damn good song. And rex...I'm glad you have mashed potatos. And I am sorry you ain't got no T-bone. :) Completely unrelated, I just got clearance on the ambient album I've been working on from the folks I've been working on and got it copyrighted. Now, To send to tiny ambient labels in hope of getting product out to middle-aged new agers to buy. It's been years since I've done this, though..I don't remember what you are supposed to send...is a recording and a press release/ band bio enough? what do folks need these days? - -Luther Wills-Dudich "Computer Age" = Neil, "Computer World" = Kraftwerk; "Computer Blue" = Prince (nb. "Cinnamon Girl" - both Neil and Prince). "Sample and Hold" is pretty solidly Crazy Horse-y: compare the octave-fuzz guitar riff under "new design, new design" to "Into the Black". (I just picked up a used DVD of the Berlin concert with the Trans band... unsurprisingly *not advertised as such...) > Is that _Lucky 13_ comp - the Geffen Lawsuit Years comp - still in > print? Cuz that'll get you most the best of that era... > (I actually kinda like "Will to Love"...) I'm rapidly realizing I'm in the minority on this one. At least I got mashed potatoes. - - -Rex Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:58:58 -0700 From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Glostermania! first of all, what's with the "hadn't of" construction? i've been seeing this a lot lately, and it's starting to bug the hell out of me. i even saw it in a high-profile publication the other day (can't remember which -- probably the Seattle Times). i mean, isn't it completely meaningless? and while i'm ranting about grammar: stewart, when did "devolve" become an antonym of "evolve"? it's not, in my '79 World Book dictionary, nor in Webster's 3rd edition. it is, now, in about half of online dictionaries, and in Webster's 4th edition. i started noticing this usage about 18 months ago, and for a while there, it was almost as though the writer couldn't get paid unless he or she used it in every piece. also, can't somebody do something about the New York Times' horrifying convention of putting possessive apostrophes in decades (e.g., "1970's")? to the topic at hand. i find it near to mind-boggling that anybody could, today, think that the principal reason for the invasion was *anything other* that oil. maybe, a year-and-a-half ago, if one received all one's news from the teevee (or, for that matter, the New York Times or Washington Post), the nonsense about the iraqi "threat" and/or the link to 9/11 and/or the primacy of "liberation" could have been believable. anyway, if you need confirmation from the horse's mouth, check out the '01 cheney energy task force documents obtained last year by judicial watch. . for a long, yet very thorough discussion of the reasons for invasion, see the Research Unit for Political Economy's "Behind The Invasion of Iraq". published before the war, but still the best analysis i've seen. . for a shorter, narrower analysis, see "Iraq and the Problem of Peak Oil" at ; and for another very good, very recent (yesterday) look at the issue: "Oil's Slippery Slope", . ferris, your reasoning fails because it doesn't take into account the difference between the bush administration's *goals* and its ability to *achieve* them. i'd recommend gabriel kolko's Century Of War, on the general topic of the complexity of the world laying waste to war planners' designs time and again. by the way #1: have y'all heard the new tom waits song, "Day After Tomorrow"? dang, that's about as sublime as music can possibly get. by the way #2: i note that the new Goodfellas DVD includes commentary from henry hill! KEN "He plays the guitar over at the hotel bar" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:43:25 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Glostermania! On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:58:58 -0700, "The Mammal Brain" said: > first of all, what's with the "hadn't of" construction? i've been seeing > this a lot lately, and it's starting to bug the hell out of me. i even > saw > it in a high-profile publication the other day (can't remember which -- > probably the Seattle Times). i mean, isn't it completely meaningless? It's classic editing by sound - as if words don't have meaning in themselves ("it's a doggie dog world"; "here, here"). > > and while i'm ranting about grammar: stewart, when did "devolve" become > an > antonym of "evolve"? it's not, in my '79 World Book dictionary, nor in > Webster's 3rd edition. it is, now, in about half of online dictionaries, > and in Webster's 4th edition. i started noticing this usage about 18 > months ago, and for a while there, it was almost as though the writer > couldn't get paid unless he or she used it in every piece. This doesn't bother me: the meanings of words do change and, uh, evolve over time. And in a case like this - I'm too lazy to look up in some elderly dictionary what "devolve" used to mean, but the new meaning seems almost inevitable. Are we not men? also, can't > somebody do something about the New York Times' horrifying convention of > putting possessive apostrophes in decades (e.g., "1970's")? This frosts me too - there's no point to it, except somewhere along the line, someone decided that the pluralizing "s" "looked funny" following numbers and so stuck an apostrophe in there. Don't know if it was the NYT - but what it's led to is pointless apostrophes on plurals when words end in vowels (cuz, hey, they *look funny*). I'm sorry, anyone who can't figure out in context that the word in question in "dos and don'ts" is a nominalization and pluralization of "do" - and not Spanish for "two" - is a complete moron. Grr. Anyway: Those of you amused by misused apostrophes will be amused by the photo at my most recent glob entry (URL in .sig)... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:43:27 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: Neeeeiiiilllll!!!! continued OK, to summarize the Neil Young advice: American Stars n' Bars - bad idea, stick with the version of "Like a Hurricane" on Live Rust. Get On the Beach, Tonight's the Night, or Zuma instead. (Which one I get first depends on which one I see used next... I recall seeing a used copy of Zuma the other day, so...) I've seen a couple of used copies of Decades also (for $19 a pop, not too bad), but I think I'd rather just get the albums. I guess I could try downloading some of this stuff with my spiffy new cable connection... but I've noticed that the stuff you really want to download is hardly ever available, and anyway, I have to admit that I like having the actual albums, with cover art and liner notes and so forth... I'm old-fashioned that way. Oh, in gnat-gnews, in case anyone cares - my first hospital doula client delivered a fetching brace of boys last month, and I have another client who's due on September 16th, with two more potential clients due October 16th and December 29th, respectively. (I haven't met with them yet, just talked to them on the phone, which is why they're still "potential"... they may decide to go with another doula.) I feel so professional talking about having "clients"... n. _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:05:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Glostermania! On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, The Mammal Brain wrote (quoting FS Thomas): > stealing all the Iraqi oil then we might have gotten stuck paying OPEC rate > of almost $50 a barrel like all the other suckers... > > ...Wait a minute...We ARE paying that much!> > > first of all, what's with the "hadn't of" construction? [...] > i mean, isn't it completely meaningless? Yes. I first noticed this problem as "serious" when my eighth grade english instructor returned a paper of mine with the marginal note "shouldn't of used a semicolon". Wow. Of course, we know that this is a person using "of" instead of "have" because it's common to pronounce "have" the same as "of" when it's part of that kind of verb construction. With "hadn't of", a person is recalling the "shouldn't of" construction, but using a subjunctive mood in the "if" clause that would be confused by the "should" construction (the "if" would imply that the "should" is conditional, not the "have"). So the person replaces "should" (or "could" or "would") with "had" and continues with the suppositional construction when a simple "had" is all that is required. So, yeah, it's meaningless. He should have written "had not" instead of "hadn't of". > also, can't somebody do something about the New York Times' horrifying > convention of putting possessive apostrophes in decades (e.g., > "1970's")? Gads, I wish. Typography has improved. Nobody's going to mistake an 's' for a number. Just plug it on the end. > to the topic at hand. i find it near to mind-boggling that anybody > could, today, think that the principal reason for the invasion was > *anything other* that oil. [snip] > ferris, your reasoning fails because it doesn't take into account the > difference between the bush administration's *goals* and its ability to > *achieve* them. Aye. Also, I think it's naive for a person to assume that access to oil means low oil prices for the general public. That high cost per barrel includes the cost of pumping the stuff out of the ground and shipping it some distance. Haliburton and other companies make huge profits handling exactly that portion of the process. Americans are so addicted to their consumption that they will pay whatever price for their oil fix. The inflated cost translates into higher profits for the supporting industries. > i'd recommend gabriel kolko's Century Of War, on the general topic of > the complexity of the world laying waste to war planners' designs time > and again. Hell, that's just common sense. But I'll check for the book at the library today.[1] J. [1] Do all your municipal libraries have services that will mail you the book for a dollar or so? Man, that's cool. No such thing as "too busy to go to the library." You can place a book on hold online and then have it mailed to your house. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Glostermania! On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Fortissimo wrote: > This frosts me too - there's no point to it, except somewhere along the > line, someone decided that the pluralizing "s" "looked funny" following > numbers and so stuck an apostrophe in there. I believe it was a typography problem. The 's' made the 0 look like an 'o' or the 0 made the 's' look like a 5 so a separating mark was introduced. The "'" is non-vocalized, so it seemed the best fit, I would imagine. > Anyway: Those of you amused by misused apostrophes will be amused by the > photo at my most recent glob entry (URL in .sig)... Well, the change in lettering implies to me that it used to say something else. Was it something like "DOG'S HOUSE" and was modified? (Still seems to me that it should have been "DOGS' HOUSE".) J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:11:31 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Neil and Edvard >Nat: > >>After the Gold Rush is my second Neil album, my first > >>being Live Rust, which I got a couple of months ago. I suppose >my next pick > >>will be whatever record has "Like a Hurricane" on it, because I >fell in love > >>with that song after seeing Jay Farrar perform it live a while back. > >This requires wisdom. > >The official original release of "Like a Hurricane" is on the >only-recently-issued on CD "American Stars 'N' Bars" (although it's >been digitally available on "Decade" for years). AS'N'B, for all >its arguable odds-n-sodsy charms, should NOT be anyone's third Neil >Young record FWIW, although it doesn't contain "LAH", if you found "ATGR" to your taste, then Harvest should be your next pick, IMHO. I'd add a nod to "On the Beach", too, though. >How about "The Scream" being stolen? Isn't that amazing?? not to mention (which is exactly what most news sources did) that they got Munch's amazing "Madonna" as well. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:41:09 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Neeeeiiiilllll!!!! continued Nat: > OK, to summarize the Neil Young advice: Pithy addendum: Rust Never Sleeps, as a singular work, is absolutely essential, too... I just glossed over it as you have "Live Rust", which will hold your "post-punk Neil" slot for the time being. - -Marlon Brando, Pocohontas, David Crosby, a bloke with no arms and Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:41:18 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Neeeeiiiilllll!!!! continued Nat: > OK, to summarize the Neil Young advice: Pithy addendum: Rust Never Sleeps, as a singular work, is absolutely essential, too... I just glossed over it as you have "Live Rust", which will hold your "post-punk Neil" slot for the time being. - -Marlon Brando, Pocohontas, David Crosby, a bloke with no arms and Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:55:33 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Neil and Edvard Eb & James: > >How about "The Scream" being stolen? Isn't that amazing?? > > not to mention (which is exactly what most news sources did) that > they got Munch's amazing "Madonna" as well. Here's my annual reminder to the feglist that my children share genes with Mr. Munch. Usually happens way before late August. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:29:19 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: From the upcoming Smile album >From: "Eb" >Subject: From the upcoming Smile album >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:43:56 -0700 >http://www.princeton.edu/~vperry/blog/h > &v04.mp3 >Wow, this sounds GREAT! Not like a "dubious 2004 rethink" at all. Agreed, I can't wait for the CD. I have a couple of the Smile shows on CDR and they are great. The other day I picked up my tickets to his show in Philly, excited for that as well. Already re-editing my BB's Smile bootlegs, Max _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:25:16 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: From the upcoming Smile album On Aug 24, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Eb wrote: > Wow, this sounds GREAT! Not like a "dubious 2004 rethink" at all. They've certainly had plenty of practice, and I don't think the people in the band would allow anyone to screw up the album. The only question would be Brian's voice, which seems to be good enough. - - Steve __________ Balance Due, account Peter pork chop 9 dilettantes: Furthermore, over curse meditates, and fairy of dissident figure out burglar near. Behind boy brainwash for midwife. But they need to remember how secretly inferiority complex behind sheriff leaves. Millicent, the friend of Millicent and daydreams with related to burglar. 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They probably don't allow anything really damning to seep through, but here's one of influential policy shops on U.S. energy policy. - - Steve __________ I know that it's cynical, but I feel that civil liberties-for a lot of these people in Congress-are either an inconvenience or a campaign slogan. They care only about money and power. - Wil Wheaton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:53:39 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: White Riot on the Sunset Strip Rex stated: >Camper Van Beethoven: Dude, Camper Van Beethoven! Surely at one time my >favorite band in the world (circa 1988, I'd say), and I'd never seen them live. They >were very, very good. I just saw them a few minutes ago. They did an in-store at Stinkweeds Records. They were great, and Kimber gave out free beer. What's not to like? The band stayed to talk to fans afterward and were really pleasant. I had been to see CVB/Cracker earlier this year, but got there late and missed the CVB set before Cracker played. The combined group did a long encore of Interstellar Overdrive, which was great (there were 7 guitarists going). It was good to get a second chance at seeing them. Later, Marc To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:16 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: From the upcoming Smile album >> Wow, this sounds GREAT! Not like a "dubious 2004 rethink" at all. > > They've certainly had plenty of practice, and I don't think the people > in the band would allow anyone to screw up the album. The only > question would be Brian's voice, which seems to be good enough. > I'm fuzzy on this...is it ALL new music, or old tapes with some instrumental gaps filled in? Because that track sure sounds just about identical to the outtakes on the Good Vibrations box... Damn, that sounded great. I daresay that I'd take that track over anything RH has recorded. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:39:43 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: From the upcoming Smile album >From: Eb >Subject: Re: From the upcoming Smile album >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:19:16 -0700 >>>Wow, this sounds GREAT! Not like a "dubious 2004 rethink" at all. >>They've certainly had plenty of practice, and I don't think the people in >>the band would allow anyone to screw up the album. The only question >>would be Brian's voice, which seems to be good enough. >I'm fuzzy on this...is it ALL new music, or old tapes with some >instrumental gaps filled in? Because that track sure sounds just about >identical to the outtakes on the Good Vibrations box... It was recorded live in studio with vocal overdubs. It's all new, and as far as I can tell accurate to the second when compared with the vintage stuff. They have been touring with it since the spring. Max _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:10:03 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: From the upcoming Smile album On Aug 24, 2004, at 9:19 PM, Eb wrote: > I'm fuzzy on this...is it ALL new music, or old tapes with some > instrumental gaps filled in? Because that track sure sounds just about > identical to the outtakes on the Good Vibrations box... All new. I just dropped $132.51 for 2 tickets to the October 25 show. - - Steve __________ They tend to be people who are insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors. - Keith Bradsher's summary of the auto industry's own marketing research about SUV buyers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 04:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: From the upcoming Smile album On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Eb wrote: > I daresay that I'd take that track over anything RH has recorded. Well, thank goodness you don't have to. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 12:36:52 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #240 On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, fegmaniax-digest wrote: Marc appended: > Also, it looks like the Incredible String Band are going to be doing a US > tour. I'm going to try to catch them October 5th in Tucson. I was disappointed that Robin Williamson was not among those present at the recent Bristol gig. It was essentially the Mike Heron show, with Clive Palmer looking a bit old and erratic. The girl multi-instrumentalist was good, and there were also a keyboard player and bass. They tackled some quite complex material, but were probably the most ramshackle outfit I have seen this year, more than Country Joe and co. Rex opined: > Arthur Lee & "Love": My first time seeing Mr. Lee despite many local > gigs since his release from jail. Read a lot of interviews with him... > in a live setting he has a bit more of the burnout vibe than one might > have hoped, but the band was good, the songs were great, and his voice > was... variable. Maybe it was a bad day. I thought his voice was much better than I expected (but then maybe I didn't expect very much). How old is he? 62? > than with a big crowd on the street comprised largely of the > uninitiated. Lee's improvisatory stuff didn't, erm, show a very > comfortable grasp of current politics ("They're locking him up today and > throwing away the key / I wonder who it'll be tomorrow, Michael > Jackson/Martha Stewart/W. Bush or me", and a bizarre "fuck France" rant) > but I'm glad I saw this, out on the middle of Sunset no less, and there > was a new, rather good song as a bonus. Well, I can understand why Arthur gets a bit worked up about jail sentences, but not about France. My guess is that the new song was 'Rainbow in the storm', but it might have been the less interesting 'All I want is you'. - - Mike Godwin PS Joke told by Arthur Lee in Bath: A gunman breaks into a house and catches a couple in bed. "Hey, what's your name?" he says to the girl. "Elizabeth" she replies. "Aw gee" says the gunman, "Elizabeth, that was my mother's name. It's really pretty. I was going to shoot you, but maybe I won't after all. Now sonny, what's _your_ name?" "Jim" says the guy, "but all my really good friends call me Elizabeth!" ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #241 ********************************