From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #237 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 20 2004 Volume 13 : Number 237 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Dresden Dolls on Kimmel tonight [Tom Clark ] Springsteen/Stipe '08 ["Rex Broome" ] Quote of the moment ["The Mammal Brain" ] Re: the vinyl countdown ["Michael Wells" ] naivete R us ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: Reap and other stuff [James Dignan ] re: Pixies ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Reap and other stuff [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Dresden Dolls on Kimmel tonight [Ken Weingold ] Re: here it is... [cooptig@webtv.net (Patrick Cooper)] Re: here it is... [Ken Weingold ] Re: Reap and other stuff [Ken Weingold ] Festival Express [Ken Weingold ] RE: Dresden Dolls on Kimmel tonight ["Bachman, Michael" ] spooked pre-order = bonus cd-r [fingerpuppets ] Re: naivete R us ["Rex Broome" ] Re: the vinyl countdown ["Rex Broome" ] Re: spooked pre-order = bonus cd-r [Ken Weingold ] cowdog alive and well? ["Mark Gloster" ] Re: the vinyl countdown ["Fortissimo" ] Re: cowdog alive and well? [Tom Clark ] Robyn Hitchcock in East Coast Price Gouging Scandal! ["Rex Broome" ] Fair and Balanced [steve ] Re: cowdog alive and well? [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:59:08 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Dresden Dolls on Kimmel tonight On Aug 19, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Maximilian Lang wrote: > >> > Will they turn off her spotlight? > >> Is there some reason they might? (There's obviously a joke here I'm >> not >> getting...) > > When I saw them this spring the singer had a floodlight clipped to the > keyboard she was playing. This light was aimed at her crotch the > entire night; legs spread far apart, yes she was wearing panties. I > assume that she always does this (Woj?). They have this sort of > decedant Berlin circa 1920's thing going on, quite entertaining. She > has an incredible voice(and she smells nice). > That's because she has a spotlight baking her panties all night. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:01:09 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Springsteen/Stipe '08 Jeffrey: > And re the proposed Obama/Clinton / Clinton/Obama Fables of the > Reconstruction/Reconstruction of the Fables '08 Dem ticket: Hmmmm. Obviously the joke refers to the flippable spine on the REM record, but don't both titles sound like fairly appropriate things to call any given Democratic ticket these days? - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Quote of the moment "Somewhere around 1974 we started getting blasi about things." . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:02:08 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: the vinyl countdown Vinylsauras Rex offers: > Last vinyl items listened to among those so inclined: > -Wire, "Send" > -R.E.M., "Chronic Town" > -Rush, "the first Rush album" > As usual, probably says more about me and my friends than anything else. Oh well. I would suggest it says you and your friends have more or less excellent taste. I rather miss the Dual I used to have, Yamaha 60W receiver, EQ and Boston Acoustics speakers. A nifty, compact setup...but still too much of a bother to set up in the new digital house, and now the turntable is no more (broken, alas). I couldn't be precise about the last disc I actually played on said turntable, probably one of Karajan's Beethoven biggies, but I can vouch that the last vinyl purchase made for personal listening was Hoodoo Gurus _Magnum Cum Louder_, bought in 1989 or 90, aka "the time when they still sold vinyl in shopping mall stores." Michael "daddy, what's a record?" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:13:11 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: naivete R us >>1. Joanna Newsom - I downloaded a track from her website and, although I >>like it, I don't know if I could put up with that "I am a mystical small >>child" thing over the course of an entire album... > >I couldn't put up with it for an entire verse. Did I hear that people were >comparing her to Joni Mitchell? Good grief. She sounds like the singer >from The Cranes. Joni Mitchell?? Are these the same people who compare Sleater-Kinney to Television? Joanna Newsom sounds to me more like Victoria Williams than the singer from The Cranes, but that's not much of an improvement, I guess... also, I discovered recently that she is, in fact, related to Gavin Newsom, the mayor of San Francisco. Connections, baby, connections. Re. turntables - I recently bought one of those little portable record players, the kind that looks like a suitcase, at a junk store. Then subsequently I bought Neil Young's "After the Gold Rush" on vinyl for $5 and have been listening to it obsessively on said record player. It sounds awful (besides the fact that the record is all warped and scratched anyway), but it reminds me of being a little kid (when I used to listen to Beatles records on a similar record player), so I dig it. n. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:23:20 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Reap and other stuff >Whew. Two major film composers down in recent weeks. Please take care of >yourself, Ennio.... ISTR that Ron Goodwin only bit the dust about 6 months back as well. Perhaps Mancini should also be taking care... > Barack Obama. Presumably this means something to someone. >When I saw them this spring the singer had a floodlight clipped to the >keyboard she was playing. This light was aimed at her crotch the entire >night; legs spread far apart, yes she was wearing panties. I assume that >she always does this (Woj?). she'd have to take them off some time, surely. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:29:08 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: Pixies Natalie said: >4. On yet another unrelated note, I'm gonna see the Pixies next month! And >Death Cab and the Decemberists are opening! If I manage to corner a stray >Decemberist, I will ask him/her more about the tribute album. The Distillers are opening when I see them in Mesa. Grant Lee Phillips is one of the openers the following three nights, in California. Mission of Burma is the opener at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York, and that the Thrills open several of their shows. It should be great. They were excellent in May. http://www.pixiesmusic.com/live_04.php Later, Marc I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children's children, because I don't think children should be having sex. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 03:31:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Reap and other stuff James Dignan wrote: > >Whew. Two major film composers down in recent weeks. > Please take care of > >yourself, Ennio.... > > ISTR that Ron Goodwin only bit the dust about 6 months > back as well. Perhaps Mancini should also be taking > care... Well, as much as a guy whose been dead 10 years can.... > > Barack Obama. > > Presumably this means something to someone. Keynote speaker at the Democratic National Committee (and it was a pretty good speech); candidate (and almost assuredly winner-to-be) for the open Senate seat from Illinois. His father is Nigerian, thus the "funny" name. ===== "'Bushworld' is sort of an alternate universe where things are the opposite of what they seem. President Bush said the other day, 'It is a ridiculous notion to assert that because the United States is on the offensive, more people want to hurt us. We are on the offensive because people do want to hurt us.' I mean that is a perfect 'Bushworld' quote. It's not true and it's nonsensical. It's the opposite of what is true. His new campaign motto is 'America is safer. Be afraid, be very afraid.' Everything is an oxymoron." -- Maureen Dowd __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:59:39 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Dresden Dolls on Kimmel tonight On Thu, Aug 19, 2004, Maximilian Lang wrote: > She has an incredible voice(and she smells nice. Gee your hair smells terrific. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:26:15 -0700 From: cooptig@webtv.net (Patrick Cooper) Subject: Re: here it is... Hey Guys-- I love it, but $23,000.00 is my final bid! Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:13:50 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: here it is... On Thu, Aug 19, 2004, Mark Gloster wrote: > So, a drummer friend sent me this link. I'm thinkin' of takin' it out on the > road. At least I could headline at some Spinal Tap concerts or something. > Makes me wonder what he was searching for when he found it. > > I kinda thought you all couldn't live another day without seeing it. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5513937139&category=16710& > ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 Oh, that is SO the new Geek Farm stage setup! It's MINE! - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:16:27 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Reap and other stuff On Fri, Aug 20, 2004, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Keynote speaker at the Democratic National Committee (and > it was a pretty good speech); candidate (and almost > assuredly winner-to-be) for the open Senate seat from > Illinois. His father is Nigerian, thus the "funny" name. Isn't his father from Kenya? - -Ken(ya) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:04:30 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Festival Express I saw it last night: . Very cool. Highly recommended. Only bad thing is that I wish it were longer. Maybe in the DVD. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:24:52 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Dresden Dolls on Kimmel tonight On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:24:07 -0400, "Maximilian Lang" said: >.> >> >>Will they turn off her spotlight? Jeff wrote: >And re the proposed Obama/Clinton / Clinton/Obama Fables of the >Reconstruction/Reconstruction of the Fables '08 Dem ticket: Everyone >assumes HRC wants to run for prez. But what has she actually done to >confirm such assumptions (other than, I suppose, becoming a senator)? >I'd rather see Feingold/Obama, personally - and not just state fave son >thing - Clinton's much further to the right than I am, and obviously >carries a lot of baggage (deserved and un-). 'Course, she's way better >known than Feingold... Other Democratic women on the rise, Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, and Mary Landreau, Senator from Louisiana. Jennifer has a problem though, she was born in Canada, so she can't run. Don't be surprised if she ends up on Kerry's short list for Attorney General, which is the position she served in Michigan before she was elected Governor. Michael B. NP Regina Carter - Motor City Moments ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:22:36 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Festival Express Ken Weingold wrote: > > I saw it last night: . > Very cool. I saw it in a cinema filled with ageing Yorkville Trendies, who were internally debating whether to admit that they remember being there, and thus admit being inadequately stoned. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:39:06 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: spooked pre-order = bonus cd-r thanks to tulloch for the head's up! of course, the yep roc site appears to be having database issues right now. robyn's starting page on the site it whenever they get it back and working. woj - ----- Forwarded message from Tulloch ----- To: VegetableFriends@yahoogroups.com From: "Tulloch" Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:56:50 -0000 Subject: [VegFriends] Bonus CDR This from the Yep Roc site: Pre-Order "Spooked" before the street date of October 5, 2004 and get a FREE handmade CDR with two extra tracks not on the CD. One song is available only on the vinyl version and one is unreleased! While supplies last Needless to say, I grabbed my credit card faster than a very fast thing! - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:30:08 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: naivete R us Never met a Nat post I didn't respond to: > Joni Mitchell?? Are these the same people who compare Sleater-Kinney to > Television? That woulda been flat out stupid a few years back, and given your dislike for S-K you prolly haven't seen a recent live show, but the comparison holds more water than it used to... and I'd wager Televsion has become *more* of an influence on them as they stretch out their song structures a bit. > Joanna Newsom sounds to me more like Victoria Williams than the singer from > The Cranes, but that's not much of an improvement, I guess... Parts of the Tanya Donelly album evoke Victoria Williams, too, to my ears, although the end product is a good deal less cloying. It sounds a bit like TD going for Neko/Lucinda gets you to VW without fewer quirks and stronger writing. Did I mention I really like that album? > Re. turntables - I recently bought one of those little portable record > players, the kind that looks like a suitcase, at a junk store. Then > subsequently I bought Neil Young's "After the Gold Rush" on vinyl for $5 and > have been listening to it obsessively on said record player. It sounds > awful (besides the fact that the record is all warped and scratched anyway), > but it reminds me of being a little kid (when I used to listen to Beatles > records on a similar record player), so I dig it. That is cool. I have found that when I go through vinyl phases I can develop really strong attachments which are somehow... different from the way I love other records. Maybe it's interacting with them in having to turn them over or something, or the specific sound, or whatever. Something about it invites that obsessive re-listening you're talking about (possibly it's that I usually fire up the turntable when I've amassed a small clutch of vinyl, five or six records, maybe, and I just spin them in rotation for a while, to the exclusion of CD's). Blonde on Blonde, baby, and the near-complete set of Cocteau Twins vinyl a friend dumped on me when she moved to South Carolina, the T-Rex stuff I found in my wife's collection that she didn't know she had... that kind of thing. My mind hears them on vinyl even when they're not. Anyway... Nat... where are you taking your Neil Young interest next? You're dead in the center of an interesting period there. Did I sell you on auditioning On the Beach back when the reissues appeared? - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:34:05 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: the vinyl countdown > Michael "daddy, what's a record?" Wells Well, my little girls know the answer to that one! But I probably muddy the waters by still referring to albums on any format as "records". I often wonder if it sounds like an affectation, but it's really just habit. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:44:08 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: spooked pre-order = bonus cd-r On Fri, Aug 20, 2004, fingerpuppets wrote: > thanks to tulloch for the head's up! of course, the yep roc site > appears to be having database issues right now. robyn's starting page > on the site it > whenever they get it back and working. It's back up and working. I love Robyn and am really looking forward to this album, but $19.99 delivered to me on the east coast? WTF? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:45:17 -0700 From: "Mark Gloster" Subject: cowdog alive and well? http://bandonbythesea.com/forum/messages/1390.html This came from a discussion on a local bbs. I suppose old mac heads will appreciate the pic more than others. Hope you are all deliriously happy these days. Okay, not too deliriously so. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:11:01 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: the vinyl countdown On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:34:05 -0800, "Rex Broome" said: > > Michael "daddy, what's a record?" Wells > > Well, my little girls know the answer to that one! But I probably muddy > the waters by still referring to albums on any format as "records". And neither "album" nor "record" is really format-specific, both referring in some sense to a compilation of stuff. I'll casually say "record" to refer to a full-length CD pretty often - what's weird is when I say "album" in that sense, and someone insists "album" refers to a dis(c/k) o' vinyl... Nope, sorry Charlie. I must be alone in being Of Vinyl Age (the first five-ten years of my serious collecting were vinyl-era, and I accumulated about a thousand of 'em) and having zero nostalgia for the format. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:17:55 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: cowdog alive and well? On Aug 20, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Mark Gloster wrote: > http://bandonbythesea.com/forum/messages/1390.html > > This came from a discussion on a local bbs. I suppose old mac heads > will > appreciate the pic more than others. > Moof! Or should I say "Foom!", since this is clearly a dog that looks like a cow rather than a cow that looks like a dog... http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1031.html - -tc - -- Tom Clark Developer Technical Support Apple Worldwide Developer Relations tc@apple.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:53:41 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Robyn Hitchcock in East Coast Price Gouging Scandal! kEN: > It's back up and working. I love Robyn and am really looking forward > to this album, but $19.99 delivered to me on the east coast? WTF? Really? I think it was only $14.99 to get it to Sunny Southern California, but I did find the "select your region of the US" prompt a little odd. Anyways, went ahead an grabbed the Sadies LP for $12.99 while I was at it... wonder what the markup on that one is for Easterners... jeez. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:57:55 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock in East Coast Price Gouging Scandal! On Fri, Aug 20, 2004, Rex Broome wrote: > kEN: > > It's back up and working. I love Robyn and am really looking forward > > to this album, but $19.99 delivered to me on the east coast? WTF? > > Really? I think it was only $14.99 to get it to Sunny Southern California, but I did find the "select your region of the US" prompt a little odd. Anyways, went ahead an grabbed the Sadies LP for $12.99 while I was at it... wonder what the markup on that one is for Easterners... jeez. Yeah. $15.99 plus $4 shipping to the east coast. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:24:00 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: the vinyl countdown >>what's weird is > when I say "album" in that sense, and someone insists "album" refers to > a dis(c/k) o' vinyl... Nope, sorry Charlie. If you wanna get really finicky, go ahead an point out the term predates LP's, and that the word "album" refers to the book-like binding required to house enough 78's to make up the approximate running time of a 2-sided 33 1/3. So even an LP (at least one without a gatefold) shouldn't be called an album, except that it should and so should a CD of comparable length. Otherwise an album reissued on CD becomes a completely different work, yeah? Actually, I'd like to know the average running time of those multi-78 albums. It would be interesting to track the evolution of how formats have affected the expected running times of what's considered a single "work" comprised of multiple compositions. The LP crept from 30 to 45 minutes over time; CD's pushed it to close to an hour fairly quickly, but where did it start? - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:37:36 -0500 From: steve Subject: Fair and Balanced - - Steve __________ American non-Christians told pollsters that evangelical Christians are better than prostitutes but worse than lawyers or lesbians. - Harper's Magazine Weekly Review, December 17, 2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:39:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: cowdog alive and well? On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Tom Clark wrote: > On Aug 20, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Mark Gloster wrote: > > http://bandonbythesea.com/forum/messages/1390.html > > > > This came from a discussion on a local bbs. I suppose old mac heads > > will appreciate the pic more than others. > > Moof! Or should I say "Foom!", since this is clearly a dog that looks > like a cow rather than a cow that looks like a dog... > http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1031.html And here's Vivien walking the dogcow in a parking garage: J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #237 ********************************