From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #234 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, August 17 2004 Volume 13 : Number 234 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: best online source for new music release info? [Vendren ] a couple more things ["Marc Holden" ] Spooked vinyl ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Spooked vinyl ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Spooked vinyl [Ken Weingold ] vinyl & the wegie vernacular ["Matt Sewell" ] RE: vinyl & the wegie vernacular ["Bachman, Michael" ] Spooked! ["Charlotte Tupman" ] Spooked continued... ["Charlotte Tupman" ] Speaking of vinyl... ["Rex Broome" ] Vinyl & Wax [Tom Clark ] Re: Vinyl & Wax [Ken Weingold ] "Official" Robyn tribute (0% Tinfoil Thoths content) ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: "Official" Robyn tribute (0% Tinfoil Thoths content) ["cmb adams" Subject: Re: best online source for new music release info? > > Without my snail mail subscription to CMJ New Music Monthly, I find myself > > not even realizing when artists I like release new albums. Does anyone > > have any favorite websites that list upcoming releases/reviews/etc? Almost daily, I check these sites: www.popmatters.com www.pitchforkmedia.com www.dustedmagazine.com And, of course, www.allmusic.com. I find Dusted Magazine can be a bit pretentous, and focuses mostly on very new, very alternative artists. Pop Matters and Pitchfork review most of the bands I like, and the reviews are often surprisingly well written. Pitchfork is great for news about upcoming albums and tours, and some great interviews. Of the three, only Pop Matters gives reviews for more mainstream and classic artists. Palle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:49:40 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Whiskey Tango Ghost of Light / Feed the Asking Tree - -----Original Message----- From: Rex.Broome [mailto:Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 2:08 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Whiskey Tango Ghost of Light / Feed the Asking Tree woj: >>caught tanya donnelly at the iron horse in northampton, ma earlier this >>week. 'twas a very good show indeed. kinda unexpected instrumentation -- >>she was accompanied by a keyboardist and two gutiarists (one >>acoustic/electic, one pedal steel/acoustic) -- though from what little i >>had heard about her new record, _whisky tango ghosts_ (which i finally got >>around to picking up after the show), i knew she was headed away from the >>pop/rock thing for a while. Rex: >I can't say enough good things about that Tanya Donelly album. It's wonderful and >heartbreaking. I should clarify that while I'm known as an avid partisan for the Throwing Muses camp, I've never been a particular fan of Tanya's solo records and even probably like Belly less than many (having relistened to Star after getting Whisky Tango Ghosts, I've reconfirmed my suspicion that, while I've listened to it a fair amount through the years, and it has some great moments, it's like a lot of records of its era where it was somewhat pleasantly ubiquitous in that it was sorta popular, well-pedigreed, and we were all happier to hear it on the radio or at parties than Alice in Chains... thus it, like the Breeders record, kinda became de-facto indie "classics" without being all that consistent as an album). Anyways, I don't think that I'd ever have put a TD record in my actual year-end Top 10 until now. This record is not budging from my top 5. It won't be everybody's cup of tea,! > but I call it a quantum leap for her, and I find myself deeply touched by this album. Sounds like a winner to me, I'll pick it up right away. I used to listen to Star as well as Velocity Girl's first, "Copasetic", back to back a lot 10-11 years ago. I have both of TD's solo albums, but I don't listen to them much. Michael B. NP Mindi Abair - It Just Happens That Way ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:40:13 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: REM - New stuff >R.E.M. unveils the chorus to Leaving New York > > >REMhq has unveiled a snippet of Leaving New York in >anticipation of its radio debut next week. Clicking >here will launch a streaming snippet of the song. > >Leaving New York on first listen harks back to >Automatic for the People, with clear vocals, a lack of >electronics and Peter's trademark chiming guitar >filling out the mix. The song features the lyrics "you >might have laughed if I told you / you might have >hidden the frown / you might succeeded in changing me >/ i might have been turned around / its easy to leave >than to be left behind / leaving was never my proud / >leaving new york never easy / I saw the light fading >out" strange - they showed the video of it on TV here last night, so someone stuffed up somewhere. I though it sounded ok, but nothing spectacular. It does hark back to older REM, but it sounded to me more like a second-rate Chills or House of Love song, to be honest. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:53:48 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: a couple more things The statement in the auditorium site has a better picture of the new album cover than was previously posted on the Yep Roc site. http://www.robynhitchcock.com/auditori.htm The free sampler (Demolition Derby) sent out with the Sadies album does not include any Hitchcock tracks. The songs included are: Southern Culture on the Skids--Doublewide Dexter Romweber--Blues That Defy my Soul CC Adcock--Slingshotz & Boomerangz Two Dollar Pistols--Too Bad That You're Gone Chris Stamey--Alive Amy Farris--Anyway Ken Stringfellow--Don't Die Tres Chicas--Sweetwater Marah--East Spencer Dickinson--Zigaboo Houndog--Cruisin' Part 1 The Comas--Invisible Drugs The Bigger Lovers--I Resign The Minus 5----The Forgotten Fridays The Butchies--Trouble The Standard--Even Numbers Jason Darling--Ways in Which We Burn Dolorean--Sleeperhold Laika & the Cosmonauts--Mr. Melee I am listening to the Sadies--Favourite Colours CD right now, and I'm really enjoying it so far. Is the cover supposed to remind you of 'Then Now and Inbetween' by the Kinks, or is it just me? Later, Marc "Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up!"--Mr. Death (the Grim Reaper), Monty Python's Meaning of Life. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:10:37 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Spooked vinyl I just saw on the auditorium site that there will be a vinyl version of Spooked with a bonus song, No Way Out of Time. It's probably old news to some of the people here, but I don't mind repeating this type of news. Can't wait to get this one. Later, Marc http://www.robynhitchcock.com/auditori.htm If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason. Jack Handy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:49:20 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Spooked vinyl Marc Holden wrote: > I just saw on the auditorium site that there will be a vinyl version of > Spooked with a bonus song It was annoying enough back in the Mossy Liquor days, now it's just plain unfathomable. I'd say our boy has a serious attachment to physical media. And a dinner-party poll at the weekend turned up that no-one there had a turntable, but somebody thought one of their friends might still have one. It's almost FOAF urban myth stuff now. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:00:12 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Spooked vinyl On Tue, Aug 17, 2004, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > It was annoying enough back in the Mossy Liquor days, now it's just > plain unfathomable. I'd say our boy has a serious attachment to physical > media. I also think it's very annoying to do that these days. But at least you know plenty of people her can transfer that song to MP3 or whatever for you. And I wouldn't feel the least bit bad about it. > And a dinner-party poll at the weekend turned up that no-one there had a > turntable, but somebody thought one of their friends might still have > one. It's almost FOAF urban myth stuff now. We have two in my apartment. Mine and my roommate's. I'll never give up having one. I love my records. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:41:23 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: vinyl & the wegie vernacular Hahaha! Chrissy upgraded our stereo just recently, so now we have a top-of-the-range pioneer turntable, amp and tuner with Celestion speakers... all built to last way back in the early 70s... marvellous. I now spend most of my time inhaling clouds of vinyl fungus spores as I manically flick through the enormous piles of Tijuana Brass records in the nearby charity shops. It'll make a nice change to buy something new on vinyl! And cheers, Stewart, for your advice on the word stonner... I certainly think I wouldn't like mine deep fried! The discussion reminded me of an old joke which I'm sure Stewart would have heard donkey's years ago, but for the benefit for ye other fegs: A bloke walks into a Glaswegian bakery, points to a cake in the cabinet and asks, "Is that a doughnut or a meringue?" The baker replied, "naw, you're right, it is a doughnut". Cheers Matt >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Reply-To: "Stewart C. Russell" >To: fegmaniax >Subject: Re: Spooked vinyl >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:49:20 -0400 > >Marc Holden wrote: >>I just saw on the auditorium site that there will be a vinyl >>version of >>Spooked with a bonus song > >It was annoying enough back in the Mossy Liquor days, now it's just >plain unfathomable. I'd say our boy has a serious attachment to >physical media. > >And a dinner-party poll at the weekend turned up that no-one there >had a turntable, but somebody thought one of their friends might >still have one. It's almost FOAF urban myth stuff now. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:57:55 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: vinyl & the wegie vernacular Matt wrote: >Hahaha! >Chrissy upgraded our stereo just recently, so now we have a >top-of-the-range pioneer turntable, amp and tuner with Celestion >speakers... all built to last way back in the early 70s... marvellous. I >now spend most of my time inhaling clouds of vinyl fungus spores as I >manically flick through the enormous piles of Tijuana Brass records in >the nearby charity shops. It'll make a nice change to buy something new >on vinyl! My 1974 BIC Formula 6 Speakers are still going strong. They were made in England. I still have all the certificates for them. My Dual 701 turntable, also from 1974, needs some work, so I haven't been playing records lately. My Pioneer SX 1010, also from 1974, has been out of commission for 10 years, but I still have it. I am going to get the turntable worked on. I am not sure that parts are still available for my Pioneer receiver though. At 100 watts a channel, it rocked my world 30 years ago when I bought it. Listening to Bridge of Sighs at my parents house after I first bought my stereo, now that brings back some memories! Michael B. (whose 600 plus LP's are gathering dust in Peaches Records crates in my basement) NP Faust - Faust IV >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Reply-To: "Stewart C. Russell" >To: fegmaniax >Subject: Re: Spooked vinyl >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:49:20 -0400 > >Marc Holden wrote: >>I just saw on the auditorium site that there will be a vinyl >>version of >>Spooked with a bonus song > >It was annoying enough back in the Mossy Liquor days, now it's just >plain unfathomable. I'd say our boy has a serious attachment to >physical media. > >And a dinner-party poll at the weekend turned up that no-one there >had a turntable, but somebody thought one of their friends might >still have one. It's almost FOAF urban myth stuff now. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:11:23 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Spooked vinyl Stewart: > > And a dinner-party poll at the weekend turned up that no-one there had a > > turntable, but somebody thought one of their friends might still have > > one. It's almost FOAF urban myth stuff now. I should do a similar poll, but I know a certain class of my friends definitely have 'em (and others who definitely don't). I have one which isn't currently hooked up... in fact my home stereo is a bit of mess, with sketchy speaker cables and two 400-disc carousels which are currently all but empty, disconnected cassette deck that I'm not certain is really mine, tuner older than myself and connected but ungrounded turntable. It's all within reach of the kids so I don't know how soon I'll bother to fix it. But I'm not ditching the turntable, or my LP's. I like the fact that my kids will grow up with those things around. I guess it connects back to my grandfather showing me his old wax cylinder player when I was a kid... I thought that was so damn cool... That said, vinyl version with one bonus track and slightly different track order? Whatever. Any idea what it's gonna cost? - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:45 +0100 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: Spooked! Apologies if this has already been posted, I'm on the digest version of the list... This is from Robyn's official site: Spooked To be released by Yep Roc on October 5 Spooked is a collaboration with Gillian Welch and David Rawlings. The idea for the album was sown during a Welch/Rawlings London performance attended by Robyn, who says: "It was a brilliant affair; Gillian and David walked on stage carrying their guitars and never once used pick-ups on them. They played music that seemed to come from no particular era, but was rooted back centuries ago." A post-show conversation revealed the duo to be long-time fans and a friendship was struck up, with plans to record if the opportunity arose. Finding himself with a "fresh catch of songs thrashing in my notebook" and a cache of Dylan songs dancing in his head, Robyn joined Gillian and David at Nashville's Woodland Studios. Says Robyn: "We sat in a cluster by the studio window, singing and playing live, using neither headphones nor pick-ups. Nobody even counted the songs in; we always started playing together, and the tape always seemed to be rolling. It was like a child's drawing of a recording session. For me it was an extraordinarily good dream. To sit there with people I admired but had barely met, and to so quickly feel natural playing music with them was something rare indeed." CD Version: Television If You Know Time Everybody Needs Love English Girl Demons and Fiends Creeped Out Sometimes a Blonde We're Gonna Live in the Trees Tryin' to Get to Heaven Before They Close the Door Full Moon in My Soul Welcome to Earth Flanagan's Song LP Version: Side A Television If You Know Time Tryin' to Get to Heaven Before They Close the Door Everybody Needs Love English Girl Demons and Fiends Side B Creeped Out Sometimes a Blonde We're Gonna Live in the Trees No Way Out of Time (LP bonus track) Full Moon in My Soul Welcome to Earth Flanagan's Song _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:23:01 +0100 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: Spooked continued... For UK fegs, the gig on the 9th of October promises to be an introduction to the new album: http://www.rfh.org.uk/main/events/116780.html?section=contemporary&file=index&d=9&m=10&y=2004 _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:25:36 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Speaking of vinyl... ...I have a bunch of discs of digitized vinyl albums which have been (or soon will be) officially released and purchased by me since I made them. I hate to throw them away, but I sure won't need them anymore, so... anyone interested in warm, crackly versions of: Neil Young, American Stars 'n' Bars Neil Young, Hawks and Doves Neil Young and Crazy Horse, re*ac*tor Talking Heads, The Name of This Band Is... (2 discs) I think I have a few extras of some factory CD's with water-damaged artwork... at least one Hole album and the old Cure singles collection (Staring at the Sea?) up for grabs. And a few VHS's which have now been upgraded to DVD, although all I can remember right now is Out of Sight and the Indiana Jones boxed set. Prolly more but I doubt anyone cares. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:45:02 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Vinyl & Wax On Aug 17, 2004, at 10:11 AM, Rex Broome wrote: > I guess it connects back to my grandfather showing me his old wax > cylinder player when I was a kid... I thought that was so damn cool... > That reminds me of this story I saw recently. Scientists at Berkeley Labs use microimaging to map the surfaces of extremely fragile wax cylinders and shellac discs in order to reproduce the sound waves. Some of these recordings would be ruined if they were read using conventional analog equipment. Check out the audio samples too. http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/Phys-quarks-to-blues.html tc, geek ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:49:55 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Vinyl & Wax On Tue, Aug 17, 2004, Tom Clark wrote: > That reminds me of this story I saw recently. Scientists at Berkeley > Labs use microimaging to map the surfaces of extremely fragile wax > cylinders and shellac discs in order to reproduce the sound waves. > Some of these recordings would be ruined if they were read using > conventional analog equipment. Check out the audio samples too. > > http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/Phys-quarks-to-blues.html > > tc, geek Since you mentioned 'geek', I have to ask if they really use discs, or disks. ;-) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:57:48 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: "Official" Robyn tribute (0% Tinfoil Thoths content) Per woj's question of yesterday: Yes, Tanya Donelly has recorded "Sweet Ghost of Light" for the Robyn tribute which is also slated to feature the Decemberists doing "Lady Waters and the Hooded One"... got this confirmation from someone who works for Tanya's label. Still don't know who's putting the thing out or when to expect it, but the lineup so far is encouraging. Smart money is that some corner of the Scott McCaughey axis will return the favor of Robyn's appearance on the YFF tribute... and I'd like to hope for some more female interpreters (Gillian?)... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:04:58 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Vinyl & Wax On Aug 17, 2004, at 10:49 AM, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2004, Tom Clark wrote: >> That reminds me of this story I saw recently. Scientists at Berkeley >> Labs use microimaging to map the surfaces of extremely fragile wax >> cylinders and shellac discs in order to reproduce the sound waves. >> Some of these recordings would be ruined if they were read using >> conventional analog equipment. Check out the audio samples too. >> >> http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/Phys-quarks-to-blues.html >> >> tc, geek > > Since you mentioned 'geek', I have to ask if they really use discs, or > disks. ;-) > Not many people realize that Thomas Edison actually invented the Compact Disc back in 1887. It didn't work very well because he coated in with shellac, which just vaporized when the laser hit it! hee hee. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:58:16 -0700 From: "cmb adams" Subject: Re: "Official" Robyn tribute (0% Tinfoil Thoths content) On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:57:48 -0700, Rex.Broome wrote > Still don't know who's putting the thing out or when to expect it, > but the lineup so far is encouraging. Smart money is that some > corner of the Scott McCaughey axis will return the favor of Robyn's > appearance on the YFF tribute... and I'd like to hope for some more > female interpreters (Gillian?)... I'd like to hear Amie Mann do something off _Eye_ or IODOT. Linctus House, perhaps. or Furry Green Atom Bowl. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #234 ********************************