From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #225 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 6 2004 Volume 13 : Number 225 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: I Wanna Destroy You 101 [Tom Clark ] Bruuuuuuuce! [Tom Clark ] RE: I Wanna Destroy You 101 ["Eb" ] RE: I Wanna Destroy You 101 [] candor from Bush [Christopher Gross ] Yo La Tengo on McEnroe tonight [fingerpuppets ] RE: candor from Bush ["Eb" ] Re: reap [James Dignan ] Re: Bruuuuuuuce! ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Yo La Tengo on McEnroe tonight [Sebastian Hagedorn ] LA area Fegs ["Marc Holden" ] Finns on KCRW [steve ] Carpetbagger? [steve ] reap [] RE: I Wanna Destroy You 101 ["Eb" ] Reap [Mike Swedene ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:16:49 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: I Wanna Destroy You 101 On Aug 5, 2004, at 8:19 AM, Eb wrote: > I've probably said this before, but my first significant immersion in > Bob > Dylan was in my high-school sophomore English class, where my teacher > had us > analyze "Desolation Row" as poetry. > > Eb > -----Original Message----- > I'll be damned if I didn't have a dream last night where I was back in > school (HS or college?) and the teacher's 1st subject matter was giving > the class a listen to I Wanna Destroy You. > > Why couldn't I have taken classes like that at school? > > Whoa - I actually had a dream last night that I joined a local Pixies fan club and one of our monthly meetings involved analyzing the poetic structure of the lyrics. I'm sure the Pixies reference had something to do with me watching this week's "Queer Eye..." last night, where they actually played a snippet of "Here Comes Your Man". - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:51:06 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Bruuuuuuuce! NY Times, August 5, 2004 OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Chords for Change By BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN A nation's artists and musicians have a particular place in its social and political life. Over the years I've tried to think long and hard about what it means to be American: about the distinctive identity and position we have in the world, and how that position is best carried. I've tried to write songs that speak to our pride and criticize our failures. These questions are at the heart of this election: who we are, what we stand for, why we fight. Personally, for the last 25 years I have always stayed one step away from partisan politics. Instead, I have been partisan about a set of ideals: economic justice, civil rights, a humane foreign policy, freedom and a decent life for all of our citizens. This year, however, for many of us the stakes have risen too high to sit this election out. Through my work, I've always tried to ask hard questions. Why is it that the wealthiest nation in the world finds it so hard to keep its promise and faith with its weakest citizens? Why do we continue to find it so difficult to see beyond the veil of race? How do we conduct ourselves during difficult times without killing the things we hold dear? Why does the fulfillment of our promise as a people always seem to be just within grasp yet forever out of reach? I don't think John Kerry and John Edwards have all the answers. I do believe they are sincerely interested in asking the right questions and working their way toward honest solutions. They understand that we need an administration that places a priority on fairness, curiosity, openness, humility, concern for all America's citizens, courage and faith. People have different notions of these values, and they live them out in different ways. I've tried to sing about some of them in my songs. But I have my own ideas about what they mean, too. That is why I plan to join with many fellow artists, including the Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., the Dixie Chicks, Jurassic 5, James Taylor and Jackson Browne, in touring the country this October. We will be performing under the umbrella of a new group called Vote for Change. Our goal is to change the direction of the government and change the current administration come November. Like many others, in the aftermath of 9/11, I felt the country's unity. I don't remember anything quite like it. I supported the decision to enter Afghanistan and I hoped that the seriousness of the times would bring forth strength, humility and wisdom in our leaders. Instead, we dived headlong into an unnecessary war in Iraq, offering up the lives of our young men and women under circumstances that are now discredited. We ran record deficits, while simultaneously cutting and squeezing services like afterschool programs. We granted tax cuts to the richest 1 percent (corporate bigwigs, well-to-do guitar players), increasing the division of wealth that threatens to destroy our social contract with one another and render mute the promise of "one nation indivisible." It is through the truthful exercising of the best of human qualities - respect for others, honesty about ourselves, faith in our ideals - that we come to life in God's eyes. It is how our soul, as a nation and as individuals, is revealed. Our American government has strayed too far from American values. It is time to move forward. The country we carry in our hearts is waiting. Bruce Springsteen is a writer and performer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:57:39 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: I Wanna Destroy You 101 Did you figure out why the Devil is six and God is seven? Eb - -----Original Message----- Whoa - I actually had a dream last night that I joined a local Pixies fan club and one of our monthly meetings involved analyzing the poetic structure of the lyrics. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 15:28:07 -0500 From: Subject: RE: I Wanna Destroy You 101 [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:57 , Eb sent: >Did you figure out why the Devil is six and God is seven? because man is five? i think the devil should have a higher number than god. how about - god is barely 4.78115, man is a little over 6 and the devil (who is much more interesting than god plus he likes to party) is at least 7.5? gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 16:35:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: candor from Bush "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." --President Bush, 5 Aug. 2004 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/08/20040805-4.html ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:08:55 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Yo La Tengo on McEnroe tonight serve and volley. - ----- Forwarded message from Matador ----- From: Matador Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:49:48 +0100 Subject: Yo La Tengo on McEnroe tonight Yo La Tengo perform tonight on the John McEnroe Show on CNBC. Not only are they the "house band' for the entire program, but McEnroe himself joins them for a cover of "Beat On The Brat." Tune in at 10 PM to see the show. Keep listening! Matador Records http://www.matadorrecords.com - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:31:36 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: candor from Bush WOW. That is the best laugh I've had in weeks. No kidding! Eb - -----Original Message----- "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 12:06:50 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: reap >Henri Cartier-Bresson, 95. very sad, though to be honest I didn't realise he was still alive! Cartier-Bresson is a major, major influence on my painting... his ability to sum up a whole idea in just one image from everyday life was astonishing. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 20:04:21 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Bruuuuuuuce! On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:51:06 -0700, "Tom Clark" said: > NY Times, August 5, 2004 > OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR > > Chords for Change > By BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN > > We granted tax cuts to the richest 1 percent (corporate bigwigs, well-to-do guitar players) Ha. Nice of him to include that little laugh line - forestalls the "but who are you to talk - you're rich!" defense. Which I've never understood: so, if you benefit from a policy personally, you can't argue against it because...that's someone else's job? Or are we so indoctrinated into me-firstism that we just assume anyone arguing for anything that might possibly inconvenience them is clearly insincere and has ulterior motives? - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:21:21 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Yo La Tengo on McEnroe tonight - --On Donnerstag, 5. August 2004 17:08 Uhr -0400 fingerpuppets wrote: > Yo La Tengo perform tonight on the John McEnroe Show on CNBC. What's that like? I get CNBC Europe, but they don't carry that show ... there's no stream available, is there? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 12:11:17 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: RE: I Wanna Destroy You 101 >I've probably said this before, but my first significant immersion in Bob >Dylan was in my high-school sophomore English class, where my teacher had us >analyze "Desolation Row" as poetry. I can still recall coming back from school holidays, and in the first music class of the term my music teacher saying: "I was in Britain during the holidays, and this album is changing music there - it hasn't got to New Zealand yet but I want you all to listen to it." The next 45 minutes was spent listening to Dark Side of the Moon. He also introduced me to the stranger parts of the Beatles oeuvre (including the start of my lifelong passion with "Tomorrow Never Knows", a song the rest of the class thought was too weird) James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 23:09:25 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: LA area Fegs Is anyone planning to see "the Who" on Monday at the Hollywood Bowl? My brother and I are driving out to take my nieces (6 & 7 years old) to their first concert. The girls were raised to be Who fanatics--the younger one even has the middle name Moon. It should be a bit of fun. If you plan to go, send me a note, and we can try to meet up. Marc If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did." Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 07:16:17 -0500 From: steve Subject: Finns on KCRW - - Steve __________ Balance Due, account Peter pork chop 9 dilettantes: Furthermore, over curse meditates, and fairy of dissident figure out burglar near. Behind boy brainwash for midwife. But they need to remember how secretly inferiority complex behind sheriff leaves. Millicent, the friend of Millicent and daydreams with related to burglar. Indeed, ribbon for assimilate tea party toward marzipan. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 07:25:28 -0500 From: steve Subject: Carpetbagger? From the truth is stranger department. (For non U.S. fegs, Keyes is a major wingnut). - - Steve __________ samarium cutlass chad cock turnstone bang currant robert compulsive ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:12:40 -0500 From: Subject: reap [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Lacy Van Zandt has died at 89. He is the father of Ronnie, Johnny and Donnie. gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:33:26 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: I Wanna Destroy You 101 Whew. Hard to imagine an American teacher making kids listen to a "goody good bullshit" lyric without any fear of repercussions. ;) Incidentally, though we *studied* "Desolation Row" in my high-school English class, the teacher didn't actually play us the song. She just passed around xeroxes of the lyrics! Which naturally served to plant the germ of curiosity.... Eb - -----Original Message----- From: James Dignan Subject: RE: I Wanna Destroy You 101 I can still recall coming back from school holidays, and in the first music class of the term my music teacher saying: "I was in Britain during the holidays, and this album is changing music there - it hasn't got to New Zealand yet but I want you all to listen to it." The next 45 minutes was spent listening to Dark Side of the Moon. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 12:26:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Reap Rick James LOS ANGELES - Funk singer Rick James, best known for the 1981 hit "Super Freak," died Friday, apparently of natural causes, police said. James, 56, died at 9:45 a.m. at a residence near Universal City, said Officer Esther Reyes, a Police Department spokeswoman. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040806/ap_en_mu/obit_james_2 mike ===== - ------------------------------------------------- "there is water at the bottom of the ocean" - talking heads _________________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #225 ********************************