From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #220 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 30 2004 Volume 13 : Number 220 Today's Subjects: ----------------- heads up--Soft Boys CD set ["Marc Holden" ] John Wesley Harding in Chicago ["Michael Wells" ] spooked! [=?iso-8859-1?q?anthony=20stokes?= ] zappamaniax! [=?iso-8859-1?q?anthony=20stokes?= ] RE: they have 200 couches ["Eb" ] Re: zappamaniax! [Aaron Mandel ] Re: drill a hole in that substrate, and tell me what you spree [Aaron Man] RE: they have 200 couches [Miles Goosens ] finn brothers in dc ["Melissa Higuchi" ] RE: they have 200 couches ["Rex Broome" ] Re: finn brothers at the corner of time and motion ["Rex Broome" ] Reap [Miles Goosens ] RE: John Wesley Harding in Chicago ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Reap ["Jason R. Thornton" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:22:19 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: heads up--Soft Boys CD set on eBay: THE SOFT BOYS 1976-81 2 CD SET NEW HITCHCOCK sealed, cut-out "Buy it now" price $11.98 = 3.40 shipping There are 2 available--if I didn't already have it, I'd snag one of these up in a second. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4027397616&rd=1 Please note that I'm not the seller, do not know the seller, and have not dealt with the seller (as far as I recall). Good luck, Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:32:56 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: John Wesley Harding in Chicago Just wanted to post up a quick note to say how nice it was joining some fellow listmembers for the big "John Wesley Harding All Male Threesome" show here Sunday before last. Meeting at Schuba's for food and the odd pre-gig beverage were Dolph, Aaron Lowe and his girlfriend Andi, Max and his charming wife Cathy (who flew in all the way from Philly especially for the show - no, I made that up) and their hosts here in town, Sam and Sue. While the show was stellar, for me the highlight was getting to spend some time in such wonderful company. I can honestly say that everyone that I know from the list is terrific in person. Fegs rule. For those with an interest in this sort of thing, a setlist from the evening follows. JWH, Scott McCaughey (YFF/Minus 5) and Dag Juhlin (Poi Dog Pondering/Slugs) each played seperate sets as solo artists as well together in various combinations...all tolled, 2 hours + 40 minutes of music. The gig had a free-flowing, lightly humorous overtone yet each of the performers seemed fully engaged. A thoroughly enjoyable evening. But as always, the moral is: the more fegs, the more better. Michael "that bit about 'All Male Threesome' is still a tad disconcerting" Wells ======= (there has a been a slight correction made to this vs. the incorrect one posted on JWH's message board) SCOTT JWH's All Male Threesome (S,W,D) (to the tune of 'Sgt. Pepper's') Aw Shit Man The Old Plantation One Bar At A Time Where Will You Go? Dear Employer Your Day Will Come (S,W) Girl I Never Met (S,W) Twilight Distillery (S,W,D) DAG Young and Innocent Days (S,D) Man In The Movie Complicated Love Out To Sea + I Am Ready + Can't Hardly Wait +* JWH Window Seat (W,D) Kill The Messenger July 13th, 1985 Lovers Society Negative Love The World (And All Its Problems) Ordinary Weekend Ace In The Spiderhole Election Rag It Stays Our Lady Of The Highways (S,W,D) Tell It To The Raven (S,W,D) Monkey And His Cat The Secret Angel Save A Little Room For Me Hamlet The Devil In Me - - Sussex Ghost Story Don't Be Denied (S,W,D)* People Love To Watch You Die (S,W,D)* JWH's All Male Threesome (reprise) (S,W,D)* (to the tune of 'Sgt. Pepper's') *with Dave Max Crawford +with Susan Voelz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:26:58 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?anthony=20stokes?= Subject: spooked! Can't wait to hear the studio version of "Full Moon in My Soul" on the new album. The comment about backwards guitar kinda worries me, though. I hope the track isn't done up in full "electric mode" like "1974" on A Star For Bram. I definitely prefer the Storefront Hitchcock rendition. The studio take has always sounded (to me) like he's rushing through the song. But no matter how good the take on the new album is my mind (and heart) will always be comparing it to hearing it for the first time that Halloween night at The Bottom Line. That night was pure magic for me. As a Cancer, this one goes straight to my soul (pun definitely intended). Hearing that the song made the new album has been the one bright spot in an otherwise miserable day. I chipped a tooth on my new tongue rod today among other events that conspired to make today, well, trying to say the least. Anyway....... "I'm out of here, I'm taking off. You can have my cigarettes and mister you can have my cough...... I've got that full moon in my soul. Oh yeah..." - --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:02:24 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?anthony=20stokes?= Subject: zappamaniax! How about "Disco Boy" as an example of a male stupidity song? Or do you think he was targeting the stupidity of the disco lifestyle as a whole? The protagonist in the "Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me" isn't too bright either, although the woman isn't portrayed as much smarter. However, in "The Poodle Lecture" on YCDTOSA Vol. 6, Frank tells us straight up that "...the woman has always been much smarter than the man....", getting him to push the broom for a dollar two ninety-eight an hour to get some pussy. When all she really wants is the poodle. And Bald-Headed John in "Dong Work for Yuda" is a complete moron....... Joe's no ball of fire either. I mean, would you plook a sexbot from the Church of Appliantology if your clergyman said it was okay? Come to think of it, it might beat pushing that broom around...... - --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:28:10 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: they have 200 couches I have seen the present of rock 'n' roll, and it is Interpol. They were the penultimate main stage act at tonight's edition of the Curiosa festival, and they just wrecked the place. Their 40-minute set was one of the most intense, exciting performances I've ever witnessed. I had keenly anticipated seeing the Cure tonight, since I've been a fan for years 'n' years but never caught 'em live. Sure enough, Robert Smith and the boys played an excellent headlining set, but really, Interpol was the story tonight, and the Cure's set ended up being... well, not an anticlimax, as that would imply some fault on the part of the Cure, but a sort of lovely denouement. This wasn't a total bolt from the blue, since TURN ON THE BRIGHT LIGHTS was not only a favorite of mine in 2002 but has stayed in my regular rotation, but I'd heard both good and bad things about their live performances, so I wasn't expecting something as special as I saw tonight. I'm still blown away. I could have left after Interpol's set and had my money's worth. It was the sort of performance that reminds me why I still go to shows -- all my griping about ticket prices and parking hassles and dumbass audience members and being out late on a weeknight, it all dissolved into nonexistence in the first ringing note of "Obstacle #1." Simply amazing. If the rest of the new Interpol album (scheduled for a Sept. 28th release in the U.S.) is on a par with the new songs from tonight's set, I may well have a new favorite band. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:54:18 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: they have 200 couches > If the rest of the new Interpol album (scheduled for a Sept. 28th release > in the U.S.) is on a par with the new songs from tonight's set, I may well > have a new favorite band. I've heard about eight songs off the new album...they don't grab me quite as much as the first album's stuff, but they're certainly good. Everyone seems to be saying the band sounds more like REM than Joy Division this time around, but I don't really hear it. Seems like basically more of the same to me. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:25:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: zappamaniax! On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, [iso-8859-1] anthony stokes wrote: > How about "Disco Boy" as an example of a male stupidity song? Good example. Effeminate men are mocked for caring too much about their appearance -- in contrast with Disco Boy's friend, who gets the girl at the end of the night. > The protagonist in the "Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me" isn't too > bright either, although the woman isn't portrayed as much smarter. Yeah, and the guy is only dumb in how he tries to pick the girl up. Which, after all, is what men are supposed to do ("Find Her Finer") and in the end, he gets a blowjob out of it. > However, in "The Poodle Lecture" on YCDTOSA Vol. 6, Frank tells us > straight up that "...the woman has always been much smarter than the > man....", getting him to push the broom for a dollar two ninety-eight an > hour to get some pussy. When all she really wants is the poodle. Sure. Look, Frank talks positively about being dumb a lot; even when it's not itself a term of approbation, like in "Dumb All Over", it's still part of the human condition. Sometimes women are just plain stupid, and that's bad, and sometimes they're smart & manipulative, which is also bad. I don't know, man, I doubt I'll convince you. It's true that at his best, Zappa seemed to have equal amounts of contempt for men and for women. But when you have more sympathy for men than women -- which I think he did -- that quickly shades into thinking maybe women are a little worse. He drew with broad enough strokes that it's hard to say WHAT he thought sometimes, but that doesn't keep me from having suspicions. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:26:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: drill a hole in that substrate, and tell me what you spree On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > And frankly, how many more copies of Thunderbird do we need? I don't think I've even heard a studio version before, and definitely not an officially-released one. It has been around for a while, though. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:28:14 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: RE: they have 200 couches At 10:54 PM 7/28/2004 -0700, Eb wrote: >> If the rest of the new Interpol album (scheduled for a Sept. 28th release >> in the U.S.) is on a par with the new songs from tonight's set, I may well >> have a new favorite band. > >I've heard about eight songs off the new album...they don't grab me quite as >much as the first album's stuff, but they're certainly good. > >Everyone seems to be saying the band sounds more like REM than Joy Division >this time around, but I don't really hear it. Seems like basically more of >the same to me. I already thought that the JoyDivisionJoyDivisionJoyDivision groupthink about the first album was borderline idiotic, as though the only 1979-1989 postpunk albums these reviewers owned were UNKNOWN PLEAURES and CLOSER. But if they're hearing R.E.M. in the new songs I heard last night, they really ought to lay off the crack -- they're moving from ridiculously overplaying a single influence to actual auditory hallucination if they hear Berry/Buck/Mills/Stipe in this stuff. The new songs sounded very much of a piece with the old songs, just as Eb sez. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:53:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Melissa Higuchi" Subject: finn brothers in dc I'm in a happy concert haze since seeing the Finn Brothers show last night at the 9:30 club. They did some Split Enz tunes ( I see Red, History Never Repeats, Six Months in a Leaky Boat), and lots of tunes off of Woodface (Weather With you, Four Seasons in One Day, There Goes God) and newer things like Angels Heap which was i think the best song of the night. They sounded great and i liked everything they did except for Edible Flowers which is an awful adn draggy song. The friend who went with me said that she liked the Neil Finn solo shows better. I think I can see her point since I tend to like Neil's solo pieces better than Tim's but i think it was also because she doesn't like the split enz songs. I think Tim makes a better rock star though. Did anyone ever get to see the Split Enz? Was he as spastic onstage then? Anyway I missed out on the new cd which won't be out for another month. BTW have clubs always been so picky about having an expired id? I thought they weren;t going to let me in at first. also since i've been spending too much time on craftster does anyone have a scan of robyn's boy howdy beer ad from creem? i'm thinking fridge magnet. Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:32:23 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: RE: they have 200 couches Eb: > Everyone seems to be saying the band sounds more like REM than Joy Division > this time around, but I don't really hear it. Seems like basically more of > the same to me. Then it probably sounds more like the Chameleons than either REM *or* Joy Division (apologies to crosslisters who've heard me say this already today)... - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:45:29 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: finn brothers at the corner of time and motion Melissa: > I'm in a happy concert haze since seeing the Finn Brothers show last night > at the 9:30 club. I actually saw them in LA as well... kind of a last minute thing; I got invited by an ex-girlfriend on the day of the show (normally at this point I'd just call her a close friend, but since a big part of our relationship was played out to the accompaniment of Woodface, it seemed relevant). It was a great show. Nice to see them with a full band, although I think I slightly preferred the super-loose duo format they used when touring their last album (hard to beat the surprise of "I Got You" played on an extra-tiny ukelele). Two-song sampler discs were handed out afterwards and I've played mine quite a bit... Oddly, the only times I've ever seen Neil have been *with Tim*. And I've seen Tim without Neil. In fact he was the opening act on the second "proper" gig I ever attended, back in 1989, I think, when he was supporting... umm... a band... who was touring... anyway, I saw Tim Finn, and he was fine. - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:01:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: RE: they have 200 couches On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Eb wrote: > Everyone seems to be saying the band sounds more like REM than Joy > Division this time around, but I don't really hear it. Seems like > basically more of the same to me. (Based on one listen...) Basically more of the same, but a little less taut, so less Joy Division-y in effect. I don't know where anyone would get "REM" from, though I guess I'll have that in the back of my head the next time around. Who knows? a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:09:35 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Reap Francis Crick, of Crick 'n' Watson DNA-discoverin' fame. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:04:41 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: John Wesley Harding in Chicago >From: "Michael Wells" >Subject: John Wesley Harding in Chicago >Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:32:56 -0500 >Just wanted to post up a quick note to say how nice it was joining some >fellow >listmembers for the big "John Wesley Harding All Male Threesome" show here >Sunday before last. Meeting at Schuba's for food and the odd pre-gig >beverage >were Dolph, Aaron Lowe and his girlfriend Andi, Max and his charming wife >Cathy (who flew in all the way from Philly especially for the show - no, I >made that up) and their hosts here in town, Sam and Sue. We too had a great time and It was good to see Mike again and also great to meet Dolph(buy SCTV, Mrs. Falbo calls out to you through the void), Aaron and Andi as well. Sue and Sam had a great time. Sam turned out to be a real trooper, he had an 8 AM flight to Seattle the next morning. I think he got up at 4 or 5 AM. >While the show was stellar, for me the highlight was getting to spend some >time in such wonderful company. I can honestly say that everyone that I >know >from the list is terrific in person. Fegs rule. Agreed, next time the Falt Top. I have heard too much about this damn place. MAX _________________________________________________________________ Discover the best of the best at MSN Luxury Living. http://lexus.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:12:37 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: reap I suppose I've already been beaten to this one, but Francis Crick, 88 James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:54:40 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Reap At 05:09 PM 7/29/2004 -0500, Miles Goosens wrote: >Francis Crick, of Crick 'n' Watson DNA-discoverin' fame. Right here on campus, I see, at Thornton (no relation) Hospital. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3937475.stm - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #220 ********************************