From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #214 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 21 2004 Volume 13 : Number 214 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: zappa for beginners ["Michael Wells" ] Re: zappa for beginners ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: zappa for beginners [steve ] Re: zappa for beginners [Ken Weingold ] Re: zappa for beginners [steve ] RE: zappa for beginners ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #213 [Michael R Godwin ] Zappa Health Warning [Michael R Godwin ] RE: Zappa Health Warning ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: zappa for beginners [Eb ] Re: Think outside the atmospheric box ["Jonathan Fetter" ] RE: Zappa Health Warning ["Fortissimo" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #213 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Toastmaniax? ["Matt Sewell" ] RE: Zappa Health Warning ["Eb" ] Re: Toastmaniax? ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Toastmaniax? [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Toastmaniax? [Dr John Halewood ] Re: Toastmaniax? ["Matt Sewell" ] RE: Toastmaniax? [Christopher Gross ] RE: Toastmaniax? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] RE: Toastmaniax? [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Toastmaniax? ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: Zappa Health Warning ["Rex Broome" ] Re: Toastmaniax? [Tom Clark ] Toastmaniax! ["Rex Broome" ] Re: zappa for beginners [Aaron Mandel ] New Elvis album recorded in Clarksdale, MS? ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: New Elvis album recorded in Clarksdale, MS? [Steve Talkowski ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:40:14 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: zappa for beginners Aaron, answering Stewart: > I just got into Zappa a few months ago, and the best place to start depends heavily on what you're looking for... Was that on LF? 'cause if it wasn't, I'm having one fucking whale of a deja vu. I thought this was discussed endlessly recently...just apparently not here. Usually this specific question will generate wildly different answers among his fans...it's interesting to see so much agreement on 'Joe's Garage' and/or 'Sheik Yerbouti.' Personally, my tastes run more to the Mothers side so I'd throw in 'Was Mothers Just Another Band from L.A.?' as being fairly representative of its period and enjoyable. Knowing your penchant for...er..."less immediately accesible" forms of music though, Stewart, I might also suggest 'The Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life,' Zappa/Beefheart's 'Bongo Fury' (I seem to be recommending live discs tonight) and the monumental 'Lather' as being likely to please. The latter especially. Michael "the Illinois Enema Bandit" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:47:25 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: zappa for beginners Thanks to all who responded. I'm sorry to say I'm having a severe "Argh, make it stop!" reaction to Sheik Yerbouti, and "Watermelon in Easter Hay" made me really wonder whether that Quebecois furniture store that was sued for using it in an ad wanted to go out of business. Maybe "Freak Out!" will do it for me ... cheers, Stewart - -- $,="\n";foreach(split('',"\3\3\3c>\0>c\177cc\0~c~``\0cc\177cc")) {$a++;$_=unpack('B8',$_);tr,01,\40#,;$b[$a%6].=$_};print @b,"\n" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:01:40 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: zappa for beginners On Jul 20, 2004, at 7:41 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Any recommendations for a Zappa neophyte? Freak Out! 1966 Uncle Meat 1969 Hot Rats 1969 200 Motels 1971 The Grand Wazoo 1972 One Size Fits All 1975 Joe's Garage 1979 Fill in and go forward if you like the above. And there are 3 live albums from the short lived but alarmingly talented 1988 band - Broadway The Hard Way, Make A Jazz Noise Here, and The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life. There are plenty of reviews at Amazon, as FZ fans seem to be an opinionated bunch. - - Steve __________ Misadvised by a frustrated and panic-stricken attorney general, a president of the United States has just assumed what amounts to dictatorial power to jail or execute aliens. - William Safire ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:03:41 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: zappa for beginners This is kind of funny. For a Linguistics class I took in college in Brazil, I transcribed phonologically the narration from Joe's Garage. I thought it was cool because Zappa is whispering so there are no voiced sounds. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:59:13 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: zappa for beginners On Jul 20, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Michael Wells wrote: > Was that on LF? 'cause if it wasn't, I'm having one fucking whale of a > deja > vu. I thought this was discussed endlessly recently...just apparently > not > here. Correct, although it's anyone's guess as to which is the mirror universe. - Steve __________ There is no precedent in any modern White House for what is going on in this one: a complete lack of a policy apparatus.  What you've got is everythingand I mean everythingbeing run by the political arm. It's the reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis. - John DiIulio, 2002 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:56:45 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: zappa for beginners Not that I'm anything of a Zappa fan, but one or two are pretty good I reckon: Freak Out; Hot Rats; One Size Fits All (a live album). Oh, that's three... Cheers Matt >From: "Stewart C. Russell" > > >Any recommendations for a Zappa neophyte? > >cheers, > Stewart >(the iconoclast) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:36:03 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #213 On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, fegmaniax-digest wrote: > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:39:39 -0400 > From: "Stewart C. Russell" > > Matt Sewell wrote: > > marmite is a minority interest > C'mon now, what sane person would feed brownish old-beer-smelling salty > gunge to their children *except* those who had brownish > old-beer-smelling salty gunge fed to them when they were children? It's > indoctrination, and nothing more. > > There are two substances that remind me of marmite: > * lychepodium (sp?), an obsolete unguent used for drawing boils Is this the same stuff which used to be used on stage instead of dry ice? Whenever there was a dance routine on TV where clouds of the stuff swirled round the dancers' legs, my Dad always used to comment "Ah, the good old lycopodium" (sp?) > Any recommendations for a Zappa neophyte? > From: "Maximilian Lang" > I like the Mothers albums. I think the Humor became off putting in later > stuff, though I do have alot of that as well. > We're Only In It For The Money > Absolutely Free > Freak Out! I'm totally with Max on these, 'Absolutely Free' being my number one favourite. And because I only like the early funny ones, I also recommend the cod doo-wop album "Cruisin' with Reuben and the Jets", which has some splendidly inane songs on it, including 'Deseri', 'Later that night' and 'Fountain of love'. But it's not 100% consistent, some of the songs don't come over as funny at all. - - Mike "I have one slice of toast and Marmite every morning, but I'm not in a rut, sometimes I put honey on the second slice and other times lime marmalade" Godwin n.p. "Dance and invocation of the young pumpkin" (complete with quote from Holst's "Jupiter"). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:02:13 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Zappa Health Warning points out that Zappa tinkered extensively with various LPs when they were being reissued on CD. I haven't heard the CD remixes, but the consensus among fans is that they are nasty. Has anyone heard both versions of "We're only in it for the money"? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:58:48 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: Zappa Health Warning >From: Michael R Godwin >Subject: Zappa Health Warning >Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:02:13 +0100 (BST) >points out that Zappa tinkered extensively with various LPs when they were >being reissued on CD. I haven't heard the CD remixes, but the consensus >among fans is that they are nasty. Has anyone heard both versions of >"We're only in it for the money"? I know for a fact that the later CD reissue of WOIIFTM is the same as the vinyl, stay away from the twofer that came out in the 80's. I don't know about CWRATJ but that ws probably redone properly as well. Max _________________________________________________________________ Discover the best of the best at MSN Luxury Living. http://lexus.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Eb Subject: Re: zappa for beginners >Any recommendations for a Zappa neophyte? My personal Zappa orientation is anything he released before the early-70s Flo & Eddie period...and after that, any of the instrumental albums with a classical/chamber slant. I'm not crazy about his guitar-showcase albums, and I'm also somewhat blah on any album which is dominated by Zappa's own smirky vocals. Don't overlook The Grand Wazoo. I think it's one of his very best. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:28:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Think outside the atmospheric box I've always seen this spelled "Occam's" but there there is also widespread usage of Bill's spelling on the web. Could it be that there were two people who had similar-sounding names and both came up with the same idea idependently? If so, the simplest explanation would be the existence of meddling alien gods disguised as either Seraphim or the Loch Ness monster, given the fact that unusual names are so hard to mispell. Jonn > shaving with Achem's razor, > - Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:48:01 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: RE: Zappa Health Warning At 06:58 AM 7/21/2004, Maximilian Lang wrote: >> I don't know about CWRATJ but that ws probably redone properly as well. Nope. The story was that the master tapes were deteriorating for those two albums, showing flaws on the bass and drum tracks, so Frank overdubbed the (totally inappropriate) rhythm section of his '80s band. Others have accused Frank of simply wanting to engage in some musical revisionist history. For example, on the twofer CD version of WOIIFTM, a lot of the songs are sped up, giving them an annoying chipmunk aspect to go with the annoying 80s drums. That doesn't seem like a choice toward sonic clarity; Frank likely just wanted the tempos faster. When the second round of CD remasters were being prepared in the early 90s, a two-track master of the original WOIIFTM LP was apparently found, so they used that as the basis for the new CD. This means original bass and drums (yay!), original tempos (yay!), and the re-censoring of some lyrics which Verve didn't like (boooooooo!). So, it's the version of the album that became legendary, but not the perfect un-futzed-with version fans always wanted to hear. CWRATJ did not have a miraculous-two-track-master discovery, so it remains pooped-on with 80s drums except for "Stuff Up The Cracks." - -- dolph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:28:04 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: RE: Zappa Health Warning On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 07:48:01 -0500, "Dolph Chaney" said: > When the second round of CD remasters were being prepared in the early > 90s, > a two-track master of the original WOIIFTM LP was apparently found, so > they > used that as the basis for the new CD. This means original bass and > drums > (yay!), original tempos (yay!), and the re-censoring of some lyrics which > Verve didn't like (boooooooo!). So, it's the version of the album that > became legendary, but not the perfect un-futzed-with version fans always > wanted to hear. Although I think the only censoring is a verse run backwards - if you[re really curious, you can just rip it & reverse it w/the usual software. I heard a terrifying thing on our local college radio the other day: a drastically edited version of the "St. Alfonzo" suite, with huge bits hacked out of "Nanook Rubs It" and a few other alterations. What's that all about? I'm hoping it was just an edit to shorten it up, perhaps for the Strictly Commercial comp? Fortunately, I have a lot of FZ CDs in unfucked with format...I'm hesitant to buy later editions for fear that things got worked over... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:21:22 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #213 Michael R Godwin wrote: > > Is this the same stuff which used to be used on stage instead of dry ice? > Whenever there was a dance routine on TV where clouds of the stuff swirled > round the dancers' legs, my Dad always used to comment "Ah, the good old > lycopodium" (sp?) Yes, I guess it is, but I misremembered what the boil-drawing unguent was: icthamol. That stuff was nasty, but if you had cause to need it, it worked a treat. Lycopodium is the very fine spores of club moss. It was the first fingerprint dusting powder. I guess you could use it as fake smoke, if you didn't mind pnemoconiosis (and club moss sprouting in obscure corners of the theatre). Stewart (who admits to an occasional toast and marmalade jones, destroying half a loaf and half a jar of Golden Shred in one sitting) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:22:42 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Toastmaniax? Toast is it? Two slices daily - Mmmmmmarmite and marmalade (though certainly not Golden bleddy Shred - the Sunny Delight of marmalade!) which tends to be Frank Cooper's (though he doesn't seem to mind). Chrissy is a marmalade fan too - she swears by Waitrose Organic... Of course, that's no slur on peanut butter (crunchy) or jam (Country Joe & The Fish's Eastern, strawberry or raspberry). Mmm... toast... Washed down with Butt's Organic Blackguard Porter, thanks. Matt >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >(who admits to an occasional toast and marmalade jones, destroying >half a loaf and half a jar of Golden Shred in one sitting) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Premium gives you PC protection, junk-mail filters, advanced communication tools and great software like MSN Encarta. Premium. Click here for a FREE trial! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 06:19:28 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: RE: Zappa Health Warning >Has anyone heard both versions of > "We're only in it for the money"? I own both versions. I can't quite bear to let go of the ersatz two-fer version, because of the extra soundman dialogue and the newly uncensored segments ("Hot Poop," "Flower Punk"). Wish those bits had been added as bonus tracks to Ryko's second version. My previous post on this subject took over half a day to show up, so this thought probably will be obsolete by the time you read it. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:41:37 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Toastmaniax? On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:22:42 +0100, "Matt Sewell" said: > Toast is it? I like drizzling olive oil on it. Also: I heard a rumor that it's actually okay to eat toast raw, before you slip it in the toaster. Can anyone confirm? - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:03:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Toastmaniax? Fortissimo wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:22:42 +0100, "Matt Sewell" > said: > > Toast is it? > > I like drizzling olive oil on it. > > Also: I heard a rumor that it's actually okay to eat > toast raw, before you slip it in the toaster. Can anyone > confirm? When I was 3 or 4, I apparently always referred to bread as "raw toast." Of course, I also called ketchup "joppa," so my mastery of the language wasn't that solid at that point. Butter, cinnamon, sugar. Or jam -- raspberry, blueberry, or apricot. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin "I'm going to keep playing music until somebody shoots me." -- Scott McCaughey "It would not now surprise me in the least if, one night on TV, right there during The Memo, [Bill] O'Reilly declared himself to be the Grand Duchess Anastasia." -- Charles Pierce on MSNBC.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:16:39 +0100 From: Dr John Halewood Subject: RE: Toastmaniax? Matt Sewell muttered > Toast is it? Two slices daily > Mmm... toast... One word. Cheese. Second word. Humous cheers john (obviously with more savoury tastes than most of the rest of this list) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:20:09 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Toastmaniax? Olive oil??? Raw toast??? *phones Interpol* Goddamn sicko... ;0) Matt >From: "Fortissimo" > > Toast is it? > >I like drizzling olive oil on it. > >Also: I heard a rumor that it's actually okay to eat toast raw, before >you slip it in the toaster. Can anyone confirm? >------------------------------- > >...Jeff > >J e f f r e y N o r m a n >The Architectural Dance Society >http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ >:: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - >:: this is nothing new," said the priest. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Premium gives you PC protection, junk-mail filters, advanced communication tools and great software like MSN Encarta. Premium. Click here for a FREE trial! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:59:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: RE: Toastmaniax? Olive oil is best drizzled on raw or very lightly toasted toast. However, toast of any consistency can be *dipped* into olive oil, preferrably in a shallow dish rather than a bowl. I too prefer cheese, hummus, good old butter and similar salty* toast-toppings to jam or other sweet toppings. However, I was quite partial to some extremely tart lime marmalade that my parents got on a trip to Florida two or three years ago. We should also make a distinction between breakfast toast, where sweet toppings work best, and toast later in the day, where they are much less acceptable. - --Chris * After a college friend who divided all his comestibles into the Five Food Groups: sweet and crunchy; sweet and squishy; salty and crunchy; salty and squishy; and beer. ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:07:13 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: Toastmaniax? - -- Christopher Gross is rumored to have mumbled on Mittwoch, 21. Juli 2004 12:59 Uhr -0400 regarding RE: Toastmaniax?: > We should also make a distinction > between breakfast toast, where sweet toppings work best, and toast later > in the day, where they are much less acceptable. Unless you're in Germany. Especially Nutella is a perfectly acceptable topping all day! - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Toastmaniax? Christopher Gross wrote: > We should also make a distinction between breakfast > toast, where sweet toppings work best, and toast later > in the day, where they are much less acceptable. And even then, there's a difference between snack toast (or even desert toast) and toast used to make sandwiches or accompany a meal. Toast with jam as desert: groovy; with pasta for dinner, just not right. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin "I'm going to keep playing music until somebody shoots me." -- Scott McCaughey "It would not now surprise me in the least if, one night on TV, right there during The Memo, [Bill] O'Reilly declared himself to be the Grand Duchess Anastasia." -- Charles Pierce on MSNBC.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:51:47 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Toastmaniax? Christopher Gross wrote: >> We should also make a distinction between breakfast >> toast, where sweet toppings work best, and toast later >> in the day, where they are much less acceptable. Jeff wrote back: >And even then, there's a difference between snack toast (or >even desert toast) and toast used to make sandwiches or >accompany a meal. Toast with jam as desert: groovy; with >pasta for dinner, just not right. Don't forget melba toast! Michael B. NP Bud Powell - The Scene Changes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:14:16 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: RE: Zappa Health Warning God, if you all think Zappa did some historical revisionism on his albums the last time, wait until you see what he's done to the classic trilogy when it comes out on DVD in a few months... rumor has it that Jar Jar Binks has been added to the cantina scene, and... oh wait, is that not Zappa? Sorry. So can anyone tell me what kind of person I am that Beefheart suits me just fine, but I've never been able to warm up to anything Zappa has ever done other than testifying before the PMRC? - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:15:05 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Toastmaniax? On Jul 21, 2004, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Christopher Gross wrote: >> We should also make a distinction between breakfast >> toast, where sweet toppings work best, and toast later >> in the day, where they are much less acceptable. > > And even then, there's a difference between snack toast (or > even desert toast) and toast used to make sandwiches or > accompany a meal. Toast with jam as desert: groovy; with > pasta for dinner, just not right. > But sometimes necessary if you forgot to pick up a loaf of Italian bread. Slather on some butter and garlic salt and it's trailer park cuisine at its best! - -tc, light dry white... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:24:50 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Toastmaniax! Dr. John the Not-Tripper: > One word. Cheese. > Second word. Humous Third through ninth words: chick peas and some strips of skin. No? - -Rex "savory, yes, toast, less so" Broome - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:28:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: zappa for beginners On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Michael Wells wrote: > Personally, my tastes run more to the Mothers side so I'd throw in 'Was > Mothers Just Another Band from L.A.?' as being fairly representative of > its period and enjoyable. I found it incredibly boring, but I don't care much for Flo and Eddie. > and the monumental 'Lather' as being likely to please. Lather's way, way too long, and if Stewart's already heard Joe's Garage, he's had a taste of that era. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:04:57 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: New Elvis album recorded in Clarksdale, MS? Got this from a Lost Highway update. Clarksdale, Mississippi is the location of the crossroads where Robert Johnson sold his soul to the devil in exchange for his talent to play, or so the story goes. I wonder what Elvis was doing recording down in Mississippi? I bet its a blues album and not a rock album. Or another Robert Johnson tribute album? Michael B. Elvis Costello You heard right, Lost Highway will be releasing Elvis Costello's new rock album on September 21st. We can't tell you much about the record at this point in time, except that it was recorded in Oxford and Clarksdale, MS and was produced by Dennis Herring & Elvis Costello. Elvis will also release Il Sogno, his classical album, on Universal Classics the same day. www.elviscostello.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:02:53 -0800 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: New Elvis album recorded in Clarksdale, MS? > Elvis Costello > You heard right, Lost Highway will be releasing Elvis Costello's new rock > album on September 21st. We can't tell you much about the record at this point > in time, except that it was recorded in Oxford and Clarksdale, MS and was > produced by Dennis Herring & Elvis Costello. Hmmm, Dennis Herring produced some of my favorite records way back when (Camper Van Beethoven, Throwing Muses) but I've totally lost track of him. Interesting... - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:56:38 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Toastmaniax! Dr. John the Not-Tripper: >> One word. Cheese. >> Second word. Humous Rex: >Third through ninth words: chick peas and some strips of skin. No? Brenda would give it two light bulb eyes up! Michael B. NP Monochrome Set - Eligible Bachelors ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:07:25 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: New Elvis album recorded in Clarksdale, MS? On Jul 21, 2004, at 4:02 PM, Rex Broome wrote: >> Elvis Costello >> You heard right, Lost Highway will be releasing Elvis Costello's new >> rock >> album on September 21st. We can't tell you much about the record at >> this point >> in time, except that it was recorded in Oxford and Clarksdale, MS and >> was >> produced by Dennis Herring & Elvis Costello. > > Hmmm, Dennis Herring produced some of my favorite records way back > when (Camper Van Beethoven, Throwing Muses) but I've totally lost > track of him. Interesting... Definitely. He played 5 of the new songs last Thursday at Lincoln Center during the 2nd of his 3 performances there last week. (of course I saw all three) I'm still waiting for his amazing "Either Side of the Same Town" to be released too. - -Steve (totally digging his new 4G 20GB iPod ordered Monday after the announcement - who needs ogg? not me ;) - -- Steve Talkowski Animation Director / Hornet Inc. 213 West 35th St. Suite 605 New York, NY 10001 http://www.hornetinc.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:51:38 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Blaenau Ffestiniog am byth! Mike a dit: >PS Prize of a gif of a V2 2-6-2 to the first person to identify the source >of the misinformation above. hmph. I'm not entering the contest unless the prize is at least a 4-6-2 Pacific. later, dweudodd hi: >Subject: Llanhyfryddawelllehynafolybarcudprindanfygythiadtrienusyrhafnau ole > > > > >- - Mike "Off-topic? Moi?" Godwin > >PS Subject pasted direct from the original article, including that >exciting triple L. I did remove some redundant hyphens, however. that's not a triple 'l' - that's an ll and a l - separate letters in Welsh. and nowhere near as sexy as LlanfairPG's double ll! And bugger them - it took me long enough to work out how to say Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysisogogogoch and Taumatawhakatangihangakouauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu. I'm not going to learn another one, record or no. >Blimey Stewart - don't drink Ribena, don't like the Beatles, hint at the >idea that marmite is a minority interest... bloody iconoclast! Marmite's fine, but Vegemite's sump oil. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #214 ********************************