From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #205 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 14 2004 Volume 13 : Number 205 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Much controversy today, in online music-land ["Eb" ] The Higsons next door [Jill Brand ] Re: I Was A Teenage Bond ["Matt Sewell" ] RE: 100% Higson content ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Can't somebody DO something? [FSThomas ] Re: Can't somebody DO something? ["Fortissimo" ] Rare Beatles tapes found ["Brian" ] Fwd: dukes of silverlake [Miles Goosens ] JWH in Chicago [Aaron Lowe ] So a druid walks into hardware store with his ceremonial sword... [Jon Le] Re: I Was A Teenage Bond ["rex broome" ] RE: JWH in Chicago ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: JWH in Chicago [Capuchin ] Re: Can't somebody DO something? [Capuchin ] Re: JWH in Chicago ["Michael Wells" ] RE: Can't somebody DO something? ["FS Thomas" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:29:05 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: Much controversy today, in online music-land http://www.waxy.org/archive/2004/07/12/new_all_.shtml Actually, I shouldn't say "controversy," since the negative reaction seems to be 100% agreed upon. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:35:56 -0500 From: tonerbomb@warpmail.net Subject: Re: I Was A Teenage Bond On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:34:08 -0800, "yet another rex broome e-mail address" said: > Mike G: > > Charlie Higson, who is now a UK TV star, has just been commissioned to > > write a series about James Bond as a teenager: > > Hmmm. Teenage Bond. I guess that would be a period piece, but what > period? I mean, in what decade was a guy who's been in his early forties > from the mid-sixties until the early twenty-first century a *teenager*? > Or is the current Bond just meant to be a really well-preserved 80-year > old? It'll be the mid-thirties, and he'll be pushing against the Powers That Be warning them that he needs to fight the Nazis. Even though no one's quite sure what makes them. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:48:03 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: FW: Tanya Donelly - New Album, Tour Dates - -----Original Message----- From: 4ad@4ad.com [mailto:4ad@4ad.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:34 AM To: Bachman, Michael Subject: Tanya Donelly - New Album, Tour Dates Tanya Donelly will release a new album on July 26th 2004. "Whiskey Tango Ghosts" is her first record since "Beautysleep" appeared at the beginning of 2002, and it's an intimate collection whose stripped down arrangements show Tanya's voice off to wonderful effect - the songs are united by a candid and quietly beautiful simplicity. All the songs on "Whiskey Tango Ghosts" were written by Tanya Donelly, with occasional assistance from Dean Fisher. The musicians are Dean Fisher (guitars, bass, drums, percussion), Elizabeth Steen (piano, wurlitzer, vocals), and Rich Gilbert (pedal steel, nashville guitar) - and they're joined by Tanya's ex-Throwing Muses bandmate Dave Narcizo, who plays drums on a couple of tracks. The album was recorded and mixed by Matthew Ellard at Q Division, Somerset, MA. The tracklisting is : 1. Divine Sweet Divide 2. Every Devil 3. Whiskey Tango 4. Just In Case You Quit Me 5. Butterfly Thing 6. My Life As A Ghost 7. The Centre 8. Golden Mean 9. The Promise 10. Story High 11. Fallout Tanya Donelly will be coming to London to play two headlining shows at Bush Hall in Shepherd's Bush on Tuesday 27th and Wednesday 28th of July. She will also be touring the US in August, playing at : 11 - Paradise, Boston 12 - Iron Horse, Northampton 13 - Joe's Pub, NYC (2 shows) 16 - Largo, Los Angeles 17 - Largo, Los Angeles 18 - Cafi Du Nord, San Francisco 4AD http://www.4ad.com To unsubscribe/change your preferences visit: http://beggars.com/subscribe/4ad/43D8WM6CSM_1664272/ Visit http://www.avdeck.com to listen to the latest releases and exclusive interviews from 4AD and other independent labels. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:53:43 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Much controversy today, in online music-land On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:29:05 -0700, "Eb" said: > http://www.waxy.org/archive/2004/07/12/new_all_.shtml > > Actually, I shouldn't say "controversy," since the negative reaction > seems > to be 100% agreed upon. Here's what I said elsewhere: "Still a few bugs, at least judging from my rather brief exploration so far. Frinstance: what's with the huge honking white space on the right side of my screen? (I'm in Mozilla, fwiw...) A lot fewer mysterious, unexplained features (or at least, such features are easier to get to) such as the hitherto puzzling "moods" thing." Since I was used to their stupid mega-URLs and disabling of right-clicking, I guess I'm just sort of used to it. It's slower than ever - unless that's just an artifact of everyone checking out the redesign (doubt it). I like the colors - and I like the fact that all an artists' songs are now sortable...if you register, which includes required listing of income levels. As always when fuckheads ask things like that, I lie gleefully (I am Fudgy Packard, a 70-year-old man with a very high income in the entertainment business...) And I really hate the click-mania that tabs everything instead of displaying it on a single page: what's the point? Not to mention that the tabs don't stand out visually, so that it's not immediately obvious how the page is supposed to work. And a minor point: the new AMG appears not to work with my Music Collector database anymore. Grrr....stupid, stupid, stupid. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Miracles are like meatballs, because nobody can exactly agree :: what they are made of, where they come from, or how often :: they should appear. :: --Lemony Snicket ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:47:07 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: 100% Higson content - --On Dienstag, 13. Juli 2004 9:59 Uhr -0800 rex broome wrote: > Surely I'm not the only one who initially imagined the Higsons as not a > band but a family? Like an annoying family next door in a duplex... > they're doing odd things with chickens and you can hear them throught the > walls? Exactly. That's what I always thought. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:31:48 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: 100% Higson content Yes yes and yes - thanks for the explanation, Rex, and yes, when I first heard the song I imagined exactly what you did - still do really... and that spiky mullet-like creation... blimey! Cheers Matt >From: "rex broome" >I'm pretty sure it's explained (sort of) in the liner notes of one of the reissues. As I recall the key was the fact that Robyn misheard the lyrics to one of their stone cold white funk non rock classics as "Gotta Let This Hen Out", when the real lyric was "Gotta Let This Heat Out". Hence "I *thought* I heard them singing". Okay, that doesn't really explain why he wrote it, just part of what he's talking about, sort of. > >Surely I'm not the only one who initially imagined the Higsons as not a band but a family? Like an annoying family next door in a duplex... they're doing odd things with chickens and you can hear them throught the walls? > >Robyn had some interesting haircuts around about 1988, huh? > >-Rex >-- >_______________________________________________ >Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages >http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:36:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: The Higsons next door Rex wrote: "Surely I'm not the only one who initially imagined the Higsons as not a band but a family? Like an annoying family next door in a duplex... they're doing odd things with chickens and you can hear them throught the walls?" I not only thought EXACTLY that but was going to write something to that effect when I read your post. I rather like this image better so I think I'll keep it. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:54:42 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: I Was A Teenage Bond Cue bass riff on my internal jukebox! Sure he's not saying "Lo-orne, Lorne Greene"? He seems like the type to make nazis... Cheers Matt >From: tonerbomb@warpmail.net >It'll be the mid-thirties, and he'll be pushing against the Powers That >Be warning them that he needs to fight the Nazis. > >Even though no one's quite sure what makes them. >------------------------------- > >...Jeff - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Faster than e-mail, more discreet than a phone call and best of all it's free - download MSN Messenger today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:01:11 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: 100% Higson content Rex: >Surely I'm not the only one who initially imagined the Higsons as not a band but a family? Like an >annoying family next door in a duplex... they're doing odd things with chickens and you can hear them >throught the walls? I thought the Higsons were an eccentric family as well! I never considered them to be a band. That's what happens when you write a song about an obscure band with a last name. Maybe that's the image that Robyn wanted to project all along. Now I am thinking that it can almost be the basis for an "X" Files episode. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:12:50 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Can't somebody DO something? Americans: please please please find someone else to run your country asap! http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1260837,00.html The story's got everything - cancer for Utah and Nevada, nuclear weapons, smashing the injuns... Cheers! Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:16:09 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Can't somebody DO something? Matt Sewell wrote: > Americans: please please please find someone else to run your country > asap! > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1260837,00.html There's more than a few issues brought up in the article that are gray issues at best, and some that are spot-on. Regarding the Kyoto Treaty: The US Administration was spot-on in rejecting it wholeheartedly. The Treaty is based on bad science with a wide-spread anti-west bent to it. The development of the so-called "battlefield nukes" puzzles me; though artillery-based small-yield nukes have been around for years. Further down, however, they rail against the Pentagon being able to "protect even it's own troops from the radiation produced by existing DU weapons." I've read documentation both by the gov't and private sector researchers and again: more bad-science complaints mingled with fear-mongering. Of all the options put forth during review for nuclear wast depositories, Yucca Mountain was the most logical choice when taking into account remoteness, seismic stability, and geological structure. We're not playing with your average sack full of diapers and cigarette butts here; this stuff's *nuklear*, remember. ...With one bill, the neo-cons can ensure cancer misery on an epidemic scale, mindlessly polluting mineral extraction, increased efficiency in the belligerent surveillance of an entire population, world war three and one in the eye for them pesky redskins. Where's the scientific evidence of "ensure[d] cancer misery," proof of polluting mineral extraction, or heightened surveillance, much less an ensured world war three?!? The article's great at promoting fear; something I thought the baby-eating arch-conservative American Evil Empire was supposed to excel at. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:19:32 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Can't somebody DO something? On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:16:09 -0400, "FSThomas" said: > Matt Sewell wrote: > > Americans: please please please find someone else to run your country > > asap! > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1260837,00.html > The article's great at promoting fear; something I thought the > baby-eating arch-conservative American Evil Empire was supposed to excel > at. I'd say it's promoting outrage - not the same thing - but still'n'all: here's some fear-slash-outrage for ya: - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:48:14 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Rare Beatles tapes found Lucky bastard! - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:47:52 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Fwd: dukes of silverlake I think I have 1,987 e-mails to go through as I try to get my head above water after the gut-wrenching agony of moving. This is one that might interest other people, even you poor benighted souls who aren't Self fans, so I'm passing it on ASAP... later, Miles >Date: 14 Jul 2004 01:07:59 -0000 >To: outdoorminer@mindspring.com >Subject: dukes of silverlake >From: Self >X-ELNK-AV: 0 > >_selfmusic.net - newsletter >HELLO...... i know most of you don't live in los angeles. however, i must inform you that i, matt mahaffey, am playing with the Dukes Of Silverlake at Spaceland on July 27th. we are a Dukes Of Stratosphear (XTC side-project from the mid- eighties) cover band & will be performing the "25 o'clock" e.p. in all it's glory & splendor. The band consists of myself, jason faulkner, & various members of the 88. we'll all be playing musical chairs throughout the set & no one instrument will be touched by the same hands twice! this truly is a marvel of catastrophic preportions not to be missed! so, if you're an XTC fan or a friend of one, i suggest you crawl out from your rock. THANK YOU *mm. > >--------------------------- >Unsubscription queries should be directed towards unsubscribe@selfmusic.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:38:32 -0500 From: Aaron Lowe Subject: JWH in Chicago I was just curious whether there were any Chicago-area Fegs planning to attend either of the John Wesley Harding shows at Schuba's this weekend. Anyone? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:19:03 -0400 From: Jon Lewis Subject: So a druid walks into hardware store with his ceremonial sword... My source for this points out that, at least in AD&D, druids can't carry swords... but, nonetheless... > > > http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10134001^13762,00.html > > Druid charged for carrying sword > From correspondents in London > July 14, 2004 > > A BRITISH druid was in court today charged with carrying a ceremonial > sword, used for casting spells, while on a shopping trip to a local > hardware store. > > Merlin Michael Williams appeared at a magistrates' court in the > southern English coastal town of Portsmouth wearing his full druidic > regalia of green robe and blue cloak, with talismans around his neck. > > The 26-year-old was charged with possessing an offensive weapon after > a security guard saw him with the sheathed 90cm blade draped over his > shoulder as he browsed through a branch of Wilkinson Hardware. > > About a dozen fellow members of the Insular Order of Druids sat in the > court's public gallery, while chief druid King Arthur Pendragon, > wearing white robes with a red lion emblazoned on the front, acted as > Williams's legal adviser. > > The sword, named Talisen, has been confiscated by police as evidence. > > "It is accepted by the Crown this (sword) was sheathed and there was > no offensive action by the defendant. The issue is whether this is an > offensive weapon per se," prosecutor Colin Shackel told the court. > > The case was later adjourned so the prosecution could examine what Mr > Williams said were case histories which set a precedent for druid > ceremonial swords not being considered offensive weapons. > > According to a spokesman for the Insular Order of Druids, ceremonial > swords are used for casting spells and other ritualistic purposes. > > Druids were the pagan priest class in early Britain, particularly for > the Celtic tribes from around 600 BC, and are associated with sacred > stone circles such as the famous site at Stonehenge, southwest > England. > > However, little is known about their activities and modern druids are > sometimes dismissed as fantasists with a fondness for dressing up and > no genuine link with the activities of the past. > > Agence France-Presse > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election > Guide! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:05:30 -0800 From: "rex broome" Subject: Re: I Was A Teenage Bond Jeffrey: > It'll be the mid-thirties, and he'll be pushing against the Powers That > Be warning them that he needs to fight the Nazis. > > Even though no one's quite sure what makes them. No, we solved that! The O's make the Nazis. All the O's! Don't make me list them again! - -Rex - -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:48:39 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: JWH in Chicago Aaron wrote: >I was just curious whether there were any Chicago-area Fegs planning to >attend either of the John Wesley Harding shows at Schuba's this >weekend. Anyone? If he was opening up for the Soft Boys....Hmmm, probably never happen again. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:48:54 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: reap Arthur "Killer" Kane of the New York Dolls. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:58:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: JWH in Chicago On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Aaron Lowe wrote: > I was just curious whether there were any Chicago-area Fegs... Holy crap, it's the Viper! J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:27:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Can't somebody DO something? On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Matt Sewell wrote: > Americans: please please please find someone else to run your country > asap! I'm afraid the situation is already locked for the next five years or so. Nothing can possibly change in these regards until at least 2009. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:34:05 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: JWH in Chicago > I was just curious whether there were any Chicago-area Fegs planning to > attend either of the John Wesley Harding shows at Schuba's this > weekend. Anyone? The All Male Threesome? Generally I would give JWH a wide berth, but since Scott McCaughey is involved it's up for discussion. Plus Schuba's is a great venue. Anybody else see this show elsewhere yet? Reports? Michael "don't talk about threesomes around me - except really good ones that might involve me" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:07:10 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Can't somebody DO something? > On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Matt Sewell wrote: > > Americans: please please please find someone else to run > your country > > asap! > > I'm afraid the situation is already locked for the next five > years or so. > > Nothing can possibly change in these regards until at least 2009. I'm curious, Jeme: do you think that Bush has the lock on the upcoming election, or do you just equate Kerry as being Bush Lite? - -f. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #205 ********************************