From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #199 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 8 2004 Volume 13 : Number 199 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: mmm, bop [tonerbomb@warpmail.net] Re: mmm, bop [Vendren ] Re: mmm, bop [Ken Weingold ] Re: mmm, bop [Eb ] Re: bands beginning with M, continued ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: Tangerine Dream [James Dignan ] Re: Mmmmm [James Dignan ] Re: Mmmmm ["Eb" ] RE: reap ["Charlotte Tupman" ] RE: reap [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Reap [Michael R Godwin ] Fossilized fish-hooks [Michael R Godwin ] mmm, bop [Dolph Chaney ] Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] No-Man? (was Tangerine Dream) [steve ] Re: mmm, bop ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Fossilized fish-hooks ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: mmm, bop ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: No-Man? (was Tangerine Dream) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Get down and boogie [Michael R Godwin ] Syd barrett [Mike Swedene ] Re: Mmmmm [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Syd barrett ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Mmmmm ["Brian" ] RE: mmm, bop ["Brian" ] RE: mmm, bop and more Krautrock ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Catch the M train... [Ken Weingold ] Re: Catch the M train... ["Brian" ] Re: No-Man? (was Tangerine Dream) ["Roberta Cowan" said: > Michael Wells, ever the list's old-school hard-rock lobbyist: > > Motorhead > > Metallica > > Megadeth > > Ministry > > Molly Hatchet I suspect there's a Camaro parked in your driveway, a "wifebeater"* in your closet, and a barber wringing his hands in frustration at the back-side of your haircut... ;) > > Moody Blues You put these guys on for the ladies, right? Do you have "Nights in White Satin" on 8-track, dude? (Really, though: if you moved to the south side of Milwaukee, you'd fit *right* in with that playlist!) * I hate the term too - but damn, it's concise, catchy, and too often way too sadly apt... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:09:18 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: mmm, bop "M" bands that I like. Off the top of my head: Modern Lovers Midnight Oil Magazine Magnetic Fields The Minus 5 Massive Attack Mental As Anything Mercury Rev The Monks My Morning Jacket Though I really shouldn't count Magnetic Fields as a band. I want to mention Modern English, even though they only had one good album. Palle - --- Now Playing: The Kinks - Schoolboys In Disgrace ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 00:11:09 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: mmm, bop On Wed, Jul 7, 2004, Michael Wells wrote: > What a strange list. I'll give you Midnight Oil, but what about: > > Motorhead Absolutely. And did I mention Mercyland? :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:29:27 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: mmm, bop > Aimee Mann > Momus > Joni Mitchell > Bob Mould (more for the Huskers, though) > Thelonious Monk > Charles Mingus > Olivier Messiaen I assumed we were talking about "M-bands," as opposed to "M-artists." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:01:02 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Re: bands beginning with M, continued >Please direct me to it! Another interesting >brain-popster/cartoonist besides Blegvad? Here's the publisher's blurb for the compilation of Great Pop Things strips: http://www.versechorus.com/pages/GPT.html I like the Blegvad/Partridge disc quite a bit, by the way - it's worth buying for the packaging alone (featuring beautiful artwork by Blegvad) - and considering that it is indeed "spoken word with soundscapes," it's very good. I got an autographed copy through Andy Partridge's website, www.ape.uk.net - not that autographs are that big a deal, but it's kinda cool. Re. the Minutemen, my allergy to slap bass began when my high school friend Eric used to slap his bass silly all during jazz band practice to piss everyone off. I suppose I ought to give the Minutemen another chance, though, if I ever find a used copy of "Double Nickels." I checked at the record store today and they didn't have it, but I was surprised to see how many Minutemen records there are, I thought they only put out a few. I also did find a used copy of the Mekons' "Fear and Whiskey" - it reminds me of the Pogues a bit, which is a good thing - but I was rather shocked at the distressingly dated 80's production (lots of reverb on the drums and vocals). Shocked because usually critics'-darling records aren't so dated-sounding, in my experience. Still, if I can overlook the production of XTC's Skylarking, I can overlook anything.... cheers, n. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Life Events gives you the tips and tools to handle the turning points in your life. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 00:44:58 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: mmm, bop On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:09:18 -0700, "Vendren" said: > Though I really shouldn't count Magnetic Fields as a band. Why not? Obviously, they're dominated by their songwriter (as are many bands)...but they've been pretty consistent in terms of core personnel (Gonson, Woo, Davol) at least over the past few albums. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:09:29 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream > As far as Tangerine Dream is concerned, I have one CD only, Lily On >The Beach. It's not thought as one of their best from what I gather. >Phaedra is generally thought as being the best TD, correct? Phaedra is usually regarded as their second best. Rubycon is usually regarded as their best. They and Hyperborea are my favourites, especially Hyperborea's amazing track "No man's land". James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:18:21 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Mmmmm >While we're here, the 10 greatest M-bands are: > >1 The Minutemen >2 The Move >3 My Bloody Valentine >4 Mission of Burma >5 The Monkees >6 Midnight Oil >7 The Meat Puppets >8 Mouse on Mars >9 Moby Grape >10 Mott the Hoople what????? All together now: "THE... mon-o-chrome set, mon-o-chrome set mon-o-chrom se-e-e-e-et!" Add in also Magazine, The Mutton Birds, and Miranda Sex Garden. I guess you're also no fan of Morcheeba. further comments and choices (yes, Metallica. Forgot them) were added by : >Michael "do the 'Mondays, Happy' qualify...no? why not?" Wells Only if you can also add Bob Marley and the Wailers. James np - Pop Muzik, by M. - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 00:34:20 -0700 From: "Eb" Subject: Re: Mmmmm James: > >1 The Minutemen > >2 The Move > >3 My Bloody Valentine > >4 Mission of Burma > >5 The Monkees > >6 Midnight Oil > >7 The Meat Puppets > >8 Mouse on Mars > >9 Moby Grape > >10 Mott the Hoople > > what????? All together now: "THE... mon-o-chrome set, mon-o-chrome > set mon-o-chrom se-e-e-e-et!" Haven't heard enough by that band to have a final verdict, but I strongly suspect they would be too limpywimpy for me. > Add in also Magazine, The Mutton Birds, and Miranda Sex Garden. Magazine was my #11, and might as well be on the list. Perhaps I'd rank them ahead of Mott the Hoople, if I was better acquainted with Mott's entire catalog. I still really want to hear the pre-Bowie albums.... Don't like MSG, and I've been advised by someone who knows my tastes that I probably wouldn't like the Mutton Birds. But aren't you going to gripe at me for not including the Mchurch and the Mtriffids? Did I mention that I'm DSLing now? Woo. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:56:08 +0100 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: RE: reap >Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:24:56 -0400 >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Subject: reap > >Anthony Buckeridge, 92, author of the Jennings books. > > >Buckeridge wrote a delightful, if slightly rueful, piece in 2001 about >the success of JK Rowling, and how it compared to his own: > > That's the first REAP I've been moved to comment upon (as far as I can remember). The Jennings books were amongst my absolute favourites as a child, even though the main characters were boys at a boarding school in the 1940s and I was a girl at a state school in the 1990s. I spent hours constructing some of the various gadgets that Jennings and Darbishire used to make: I remember making my father spend far longer than any sane person would want to talking into an empty Lyle's Golden Syrup tin attached by a piece of string to another empty tin, which was placed onto one of my ears... you should try it some time. Ah, those were the days! Charlotte _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:26:30 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: reap - --On Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2004 9:56 Uhr +0100 Charlotte Tupman wrote: >> Anthony Buckeridge, 92, author of the Jennings books. >> > > That's the first REAP I've been moved to comment upon (as far as I can > remember). The Jennings books were amongst my absolute favourites as a > child, I find it very strange that I'd never heard of him or of his books. I read the obit and it specifically mentions "Most were also published in translation, with the French (Jennings is renamed Bennett), German (Fredy) and Norwegian (Stompa) as the most popular.". On amazon.de I find that there were in fact lots of volumes titled "Immer dieser Fredy" etc., although all of them are now out of print. What I find so surprising is that I don't remember seeing them in the local public library as a kid. I basically read every book they had in the children's section, most of all the complete works of Enid Blyton. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:29:39 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Reap Anthony Buckeridge, 92 - - Flixton Slick, Super Sleuth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:57:21 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Fossilized fish-hooks Apologies, Stewart, I posted that reap before receiving the latest digest. I was surprised to find Buckeridge piling Ossa on Pelion in the article you recommended: Surely everyone else piles Pelion on Ossa? Roget gives: "Heaping Pelion upon Ossa. Adding difficulty to difficulty; fruitless" * * * Whoa. Apparently this isn't as cut and dried as I thought. goes the same way (as do Cowper and Rabelais), but apparently Virgil originally stacked them the other way: Interesting!(?) I should have guessed that a prep school master wouldn't get this wrong. - - Mike Godwin PS I went to Pelion once - it was absolutely beautiful, but the narrow gauge railway was out of use at the time and our hostess kept trying to feed us on tripe. No sign of Ossa either above or below... n.p. Arthur Lee and Love, "Feathered Fish" off the new EP ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:47:30 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: mmm, bop (order is mmmerely alphabetic) Magic Hour Magick Heads The Magnetic Fields Miss Red Flowers Mission Of Burma The Modern Lovers Mogwai Morphine The Mutton Birds My Bloody Valentine - -- dolph ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 06:00:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap Syreeta Wright, Motown singer, ex-Mrs. Stevie Wonder ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin "I'm going to keep playing music until somebody shoots me." -- Scott McCaughey "It would not now surprise me in the least if, one night on TV, right there during The Memo, [Bill] O'Reilly declared himself to be the Grand Duchess Anastasia." -- Charles Pierce on MSNBC.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:24:30 -0500 From: steve Subject: No-Man? (was Tangerine Dream) On Jul 8, 2004, at 1:09 AM, James Dignan wrote: > Phaedra is usually regarded as their second best. Rubycon is usually > regarded as their best. They and Hyperborea are my favourites, > especially Hyperborea's amazing track "No man's land". All this TD talk made me order 4 of their early all-synth albums. Speaking of "No Man's Land," can anyone tell me about the band No-Man. Am I correct to assume that it is an offshoot of Porcupine Tree? No-Man seems to have a lot of guests, including Fripp for most of one album. It's summer, there's a little gecko clinging to the ceiling. Go, gecko, go! Eat some bugs, but watch out for the cats! - - Steve __________ gecko n : any of various small chiefly tropical and usually nocturnal insectivorous terrestrial lizards typically with immovable eyelids; completely harmless. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 08:53:00 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: mmm, bop Fortissimo wrote: >>Ministry > no freakin way, dude... *way*, dude. One of my favourite mix CDs alternates Ministry with mountain banjo. And I can't believe you missed out Music Tapes. But I might have to register a conflict of interest in this debate soon ... ;-) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:09:30 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: reap Charlotte Tupman wrote: > > I spent > hours constructing some of the various gadgets that Jennings and > Darbishire used to make Yeah, I did that too. I think my dad scored some empty tobacco tins especially for the phone thing. I basically lived off books from about age 7 to 16. Every series of books -- except perhaps Enid Blyton's, to which I had an irrational aversion -- I devoured. I think my favorites were: * the Uncle series, by JP Martin (out of print, but if you know where to look you can score scanned copies). I just re-read these, and they are every bit as good as I remember them. * the Danny Dunn books (which I suspect would be apalling dreck if I read them now) * the Jennings books. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:16:25 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: reap Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > On amazon.de I > find that there were in fact lots of volumes titled "Immer dieser Fredy" I can't imagine Jennings in transaltion, but it would be worth a look. I hope the infectious winsomeness of Jennings makes it through. Yay, my copy of "A Wild Ride Through The Night", by that guy that wrote Capt. Bluebear and 'Little Asshole', arrives today. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:18:51 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Fossilized fish-hooks Michael R Godwin wrote: > > Surely everyone else piles Pelion on Ossa? why, are they particularly challenging items of Ikea furniture? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:11:06 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: mmm, bop Michael Wells wrote: >> Molly Hatchet Jeff responded: >no freakin way, dude (Southern division) The Southern division band that I'll put forth then, is The Marshall Tucker Band. They played a rock, country, jazz and blues mixture that was unique. I saw them a couple of times in the 1970's and they cooked. >Here are a handful I'd put unequivocally in my Fave M-Band category: >My Bloody Valentine >Mission of Burma >Mercury Rev >Mekons >Magnetic Fields Good choices all. I am going to buy some of The Monochrome Set next. What ones should I start with? Even thought they only had one good album, 1993's The Buried Life, I would almost be tempted to put Medicine in my Top 10, but one good album doesn't cut it to make the Top 10. No one suggested Madness yet? I don't have anything by them, so I couldn't say if they belong or not. Michael B. NP Kate Rusby - 10 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 10:22:14 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: No-Man? (was Tangerine Dream) steve wrote: > > It's summer, there's a little gecko clinging to the ceiling. Go, gecko, > go! Eat some bugs, but watch out for the cats! Wish we had geckos. All we get is eentsy snakes. Mind you, our big-fuck-off lumbering snapping turtles the size of footstools means we're sorted testudinateously. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:06:25 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: reap - --On Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2004 9:16 Uhr -0400 "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> >> On amazon.de I >> find that there were in fact lots of volumes titled "Immer dieser Fredy" > > I can't imagine Jennings in transaltion, but it would be worth a look. I > hope the infectious winsomeness of Jennings makes it through. These days I wouldn't read them in German anymore ... > Yay, my copy of "A Wild Ride Through The Night", by that guy that wrote > Capt. Bluebear and 'Little Asshole', arrives today. Walter Moers. His 'Little Asshole' is just great (also the movie!) and I like Capt. Bluebear on TV well enough. As you may know, the character (plus nieces and nephews and Hein Bloed) was created for the classic show "Die Sendung mit der Maus" (The program with the mouse). It's a TV program for kids that many adults follow religiously. There's always a story that explains how something is done or produced, e.g. "how do they get tooth paste into the tube?". Anyway, there are also Capt. Bluebear puppets on the show. He always tells his nieces and nephews tall tales that are shown in cartoons. The books don't do much for me. I started "The 13.5 Lives of Captain Bluebear" but found them rather boring ... isn't it very repetitive? Another great one of his, however, is "Der Foenig". Unfortunately it's just about impossible to translate, I'd assume. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:12:23 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Get down and boogie Following recent instructions to improve my musical productivity, I have dug through the archives and updated this: Details, lyrics etc are at - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:08:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Syd barrett Some Syd Songs and other bands covering his work: http://www.syd-barrett.it/stuff/audio/index.php Mike np - "Panic" Smiths ===== - ------------------------------------------------- "there is water at the bottom of the ocean" - talking heads _________________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:29:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Mmmmm On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Eb wrote: > > set mon-o-chrom se-e-e-e-et!" > > Haven't heard enough by that band to have a final verdict, but I strongly > suspect they would be too limpywimpy for me. Their finest moments, and among the least wimpy, are the early singles "He's Frank" and "Eine Symphonie Des Grauens". If you haven't heard them, it's worth downloading or snagging them from a friend. After that they developed more of the style you may be fearing. I mean, they were never macho, but you know that. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:38:31 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Syd barrett Mike Swedene wrote: > > http://www.syd-barrett.it/stuff/audio/index.php yay! I'd been looking for tJ&MC's Vegetable Man for years. My brother still has their first single with the wee note scrawled on it 'Write to us c/o our mum's house, East Kilbride'. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:47:27 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Mmmmm James then Eb: > James: > > what????? All together now: "THE... mon-o-chrome set, mon-o-chrome > > set mon-o-chrom se-e-e-e-et!" I'm with you brother! Eb: > Haven't heard enough by that band to have a final verdict, but I strongly > suspect they would be too limpywimpy for me. Have you heard their 1st 2 albums? If not, you're missing out (and I would be surprised given your vast music background). I doubt one could ever call those two LPs limpywimpy! Both these albums have been relocated to one cd. Allmusic describes it as a cross between Roxy Music and XTC. I'm not sure if that's an accurate description, because I still need to hear more Roxy Music, but I know these 2 albums are incredible pieces of music/lyrics/musicianship. I've never heard anything else I could remotely compare. I think this is now available as Tomorrow Will Be Too Long: The Best of the Monochrome Set. Not really a best of album though- which is kind of an annoying marketing ploy since it's really just their 1st 2 albums: Strange Boutique and Love Zombies. Well worth seeking out. - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 12:03:08 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: RE: mmm, bop said: > I am going to buy some of The Monochrome Set next. > What ones should I start with? Like I mentioned before: The 1st 2 albums are fantastic and now available as: Tomorrow Will Be Too Long: The Best Of The Monochrome Set. Their 3rd album is also quite good: Eligible Bachelors, but you get double the music with the 1st choice. Volume, Contrast, Brilliance! is a fine comp featuring lots of John Peel sessions and early singles. Actually my favorite MSet are the early singles and b-sides, most not availble on one format. Songs like Mr. Bizarro, Alphaville, 10 Don'ts For The Honeymooners... > would almost be tempted to put Medicine in my Top 10, but one good album > doesn't cut it to make the Top 10. Yes! I forgot about Medicine. Some hit and miss stuff there. But the "hit" stuff is really good. > No one suggested Madness yet? I don't have anything by them, so I > couldn't > say if they belong or not. They might be in my top 10. I got the box set about a year ago. It gives you 6 albums. Fun stuff, but I mostly like the singles. - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:29:46 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: mmm, bop and more Krautrock said: >> I am going to buy some of The Monochrome Set next. >> What ones should I start with? Nuppy came back with: >Like I mentioned before: The 1st 2 albums are fantastic and now >available as: Tomorrow Will Be Too Long: The Best Of The Monochrome Set. >Their 3rd album is also quite good: Eligible Bachelors, but you get >double the music with the 1st choice. Volume, Contrast, Brilliance! is a >>fine comp featuring lots of John Peel sessions and early singles. >Actually my favorite MSet are the early singles and b-sides, most not >availble on one format. Songs like Mr. Bizarro, Alphaville, 10 Don'ts >For The Honeymooners... I just ordered Volume, Contrast, Brilliance! and Eligible Bachelors by The Monochrome Set. Thanks Brian! On the Krautrock front: Just ordered Can - Ege Bamyasi, Faust - Faust IV Tangerine Dream - Rubycon and Hyperborea. Thanks Jon Lewis and James Dignan! On the I can't believe I didn't have this one before front: Zombies - Odessey and Oracle, also just ordered. Michael B. NP Bud Powell - The Amazing Bud Powell, Volume Two ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:24:32 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Catch the M train... >>Michael "do the 'Mondays, Happy' qualify...no? why not?" Wells Speaking of the much-maligned Mondays (who, if really named that, would surely be one of the hottest new indie bands on Warner Brothers)... I just received my Tago Mago yesterday (sales up 200% from last week on the basis of Feg purchases alone), and... has anyone ever cited Can as a major influence on Shaun Ryder? It seems like a kind of arty touchstone for him, but I swear there are things that Suzuki does on that record which are precise antecedents for Ryder's vocal and lyrical pastiche style. Jeffrey: >>I've tried several times, but I still can't get my head around metal - >>apparently I'm not as in touch w/my inner 13-year-old... My inner 13-year old was called a fag too many times by too many metalheads to even try, m'self. Oh, no, wait, that was my actual 13-year old self. >>Aimee Mann >>Momus >>Joni Mitchell >>Bob Mould (more for the Huskers, though) Not really bands per se, though... >>Moonshake Only for begetting Laika... >>Monks of Doom Only for being begotten by Camper Van Beethoven... >>Minutemen (whom I've always respected more than truly enjoyed...) Wow, there's a lot of this going on! Has nobody nominated Massive Attack? I think they, alongside MBV, landed an album in my personal All-Time Top 10 the last time I tried one. Certainly an important (seminal?) artist... which could also be said of Minor Threat, whom I also don't recall being cited yet. I know they get kicked around a lot here, but I would've expected more citations of the Robyn-connected Minus 5. I like the Monks a lot. Moby Grape had some good moments. Already mentioned the Monochrome Set. Mudhoney was cool. I never got deeply into Morphine (the band, anyway; the drug... mmmmm...) but they have a certain respectability. My Morning Jacket is a crap name, but an okay band. Early Meat Puppets records are kinda cool. Magnapop had some good singles... dude, why am I still doing this? - -Mex Mroome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:24:08 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Catch the M train... On Thu, Jul 8, 2004, Rex.Broome wrote: > >>Bob Mould (more for the Huskers, though) > > Not really bands per se, though... I guess, but Bob's thing between Husker Du and Sugar was called the Bob Mould Band (or maybe band). - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:45:06 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Catch the M train... Mex said: > Certainly an important (seminal?) artist... which could also be said of > Minor Threat, whom I also don't recall being cited yet. Hmmm... I can say I've ever heard any Minor Threat. I feel as if I should though. This Sunday I have a recording session with Minor Threat's drummer's new band. They are calling themselves Pretty Picture. What is a good Minor Threat album to start with? - -Nuppy PS: subject title a Pylon reference? - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:04:15 -0400 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: No-Man? (was Tangerine Dream) > Speaking of "No Man's Land," can anyone tell me about the band No-Man. > Am I correct to assume that it is an offshoot of Porcupine Tree? > No-Man seems to have a lot of guests, including Fripp for most of one > album. Actually, Porcupine Tree was originally considered to be an offshoot of no-man. :-) The connection is multi-instrumentalist (and P Tree leader) Steven Wilson, who is half of no-man, along with Tim Bowness. They worked early on with Richard Barbieri, Steve Jansen and Mick Karn from Japan. Likely this is how they hooked up with Robert Fripp, who appears on their 1994 album Flowermouth. Barbieri is also now in Porcupine Tree. I don't have any of the no-man albums but I've heard a few tracks and it's very good. From what I've read, no-man has not broken up-- they still plan to keep recording--but Wilson has been quite busy with Porcupine Tree and other projects so they've taken a hiatus. Cheers Roberta ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #199 ********************************