From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #198 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 8 2004 Volume 13 : Number 198 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Small Strange World [James Dignan ] Re: REAP [James Dignan ] Re: Uncle Junior's summer gig? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] RE: Too Faust For You (AKA Amon Duul II You What You Did II Me) ["Bachman] Re: REAP ["Fortissimo" ] Re: REAP [Tom Clark ] bands beginning with M, continued ["Natalie Jane" ] robyn spamcock [fingerpuppets ] Re: Too Faust For You (AKA Amon Duul II You What You Did II Me) [Jon Lewi] Re: bands beginning with M, continued [Vendren ] Re: bands beginning with M, continued [Eb ] Coming out of dormancy to say... [The Great Quail ] Re: Coming out of dormancy to say... ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Googling Oneself [Barbara Soutar ] mmm, bop ["Michael Wells" ] Re: mmm, bop [Eb ] Re: mmm, bop ["Fortissimo" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:17:40 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Small Strange World >On a brighter note, I found myself in the small town of Gore, about >100 miles south of here, today. did I say "on a brighter note"? The reason I was there was for my Uncle's funeral! James RIP - Martin van de Water - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:22:43 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: REAP > > It would have to be less than a quarter, but among presidential nominees > > it remains 100%, yeah? > >I was unable to find any information on religion. > >So, neglecting the "Christian" requirement, you're looking at about a 35% >population of white males, given the broad definition of the U.S. Census. FWIW, I had a look at a list of religious affiliations of all past presidents, and was bemused to discover that Lincoln listed his religion as "Liberal". Andrew Johnson expressed no faith although he "admired the Baptists", whatever that may mean. And yes, Jefferson was Deist. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:50:03 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Uncle Junior's summer gig? - --On Dienstag, 6. Juli 2004 20:16 Uhr -0400 Christopher Gross wrote: >> I'm not saying that Buffy is the best show I've ever seen, but there's >> certainly enough in it to keep me watching - not least of all it keeps me >> up to speed on slang: do people actually say things like "(adjective) >> much!", e.g. "morbid much!" (from the pilot episode)?? > > This is real slang, although it should have a question mark. OK, Cappy basically said the same thing. I guess I didn't pick up on that, because the inflection isn't very pronounced. > Most other > hallmarks of Buffy slang, like the -age compounds (eg Slayage) and > creation of adjectives by adding -y to a noun that doesn't really need it > (eg, Heart-of-Darknessy) are also real, though some are used more > frequently on the show than in real life. When I spent some time in the US in the early nineties, the current fad was to add -ish to everything. I take it that one has run its course? > And it works both ways -- Buffy > has probably also had an influence on its viewer's slang. Sure. > I've noticed > myself doing the suffixy thing more often since I became a fan, much as I > started saying "D'oh" and "Woohoo!" sometime in the early 90s. There's a > whole book on Buffy slang, Slayer Slang by Michael Adams, which I have NOT > read. Well, not yet. Sounds interesting ;-) Wow, published by OUP! The Hannover University library has it, so I might get it as a cross-library loan(?). There's also "Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale (Popular Culture and Philosophy)". Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:24:56 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Anthony Buckeridge, 92, author of the Jennings books. Buckeridge wrote a delightful, if slightly rueful, piece in 2001 about the success of JK Rowling, and how it compared to his own: Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:03:35 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Too Faust For You (AKA Amon Duul II You What You Did II Me) Rex Broome wrote: > > Okay, it rapidly becomes apparent to me that there is a *fuckload* > more Krautrock out there than I ever ever suspected. Dare one hope > that there might be a Rosetta Stone in the form of a nice > multi-artist compilation box or summat? I just ordered Can - Tago Mago and NEU! after all this talk about Krautrock. Also, long overdue I my part, The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers. As far as Tangerine Dream is concerned, I have one CD only, Lily On The Beach. It's not thought as one of their best from what I gather. Phaedra is generally thought as being the best TD, correct? Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:15:58 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: REAP On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 17:15:19 -0700, "Rex Broome" said: > Fair 'nuff, but don't you think the parties fielding these candidates > have skin color and/or gender in mind when they consider the > "electability" of their guy? a/k/a second-guessing what people will do. Funny how, in most fields, attempts to predict what people will do fail miserably...otherwise, the record industry would be a cinch. How 'bout we define "electability" ex post facto? Of course, first we'd have to reform the election system to actually reflect what people think... I don't think it's too cynical to note that > the major parties have never put forth anyone other than a white male as > a presidential candidate, and only fielded a non-male or non-Christian* > for VP once apiece. Not that I would vote for a candidate based on those > factors, but I do think there should have been some natural movement on > that formula by now. Because the US is a class-free society, and because we so value equality, our presidents and vice presidents so clearly reflect the demographics of our nation's population. Oh wait, they don't? Never mind. It's absolutely appalling that it was *news* (that it was a *fact*) that Joe Lieberman was the first Jewish VP candidate. There's been, what, *one* Catholic president? And as noted, only one woman (white) put up on a post-primary major-party ticket for either office... As for religion: that question shouldn't even be *asked*. If we don't have a state religion, it's no business of the state what any person's religion is. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:20:26 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: REAP On Jul 6, 2004, at 5:18 PM, Capuchin wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Tom Clark wrote: >> On Jul 6, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Rex Broome wrote: >>> Any chance that the US will be governed by anyone other than some >>> white guy until 2009. >> >> "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a >> nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by >> the content of their character." >> >> MLK - 28 Aug. 1963 > > Oh, right... so let's amend there. > > REAP... any chance that the US will be governed by anyone who's > character > does not contain huge amounts of greed, duplicity, murderous > vengefulness, > and intolerance. That's a little more accurate. An asshole is an asshole, no matter the color of his skin. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:53:20 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: bands beginning with M, continued Thank you kindly fegs for the Mission of Burma/Mekons advice; I was also told to pick up Fear & Whiskey. I was actually inspired to check out the Mekons after reading a compilation of Jon Langford's (and some other guy's) brilliant comic strip, "Great Pop Things." I'm sure some of you have read this... I can't recommend it highly enough for the discerning music geek with a sense of humor - which pretty much includes everyone on this list.... Re. another cult band beginning with M that Rex mentioned... the Minutemen. I picked up "Double Nickels on the Dime" a few years ago and I guess I was expecting some balls-out punk a la Black Flag or something, and instead was confronted with that most horrifying of musical quirks, the SLAP BASS. I became nauseated after several tracks and ended up selling the record. People have been telling me I should give them another chance, and given that they've inspired some of my favorite bands (Neutral Milk Hotel, Uncle Tupelo - who even have a song called "D. Boon") - I guess I should, but I'm not sure if I can take the slap bass... n. p.s. I always assumed "feg" to mean a member of this list, not a generic term for a Robyn fan. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:25:20 -0400 From: Jon Lewis Subject: Re: bands beginning with M, continued On Wednesday, July 7, 2004, at 01:53 PM, Natalie Jane wrote: > Thank you kindly fegs for the Mission of Burma/Mekons advice; I was > also > told to pick up Fear & Whiskey. I was actually inspired to check out > the > Mekons after reading a compilation of Jon Langford's (and some other > guy's) brilliant comic strip, "Great Pop Things." I'm sure some of you > have read this... I can't recommend it highly enough for the discerning > music geek with a sense of humor - which pretty much includes everyone > on > this list.... Please direct me to it! Another interesting brain-popster/cartoonist besides Blegvad? Incidentally, has anyone yet heard the Blegvad/Partridge Orpheus? I backed off warily when I read that it consisted of "soundscapes with poetry". > > Re. another cult band beginning with M that Rex mentioned... the > Minutemen. I picked up "Double Nickels on the Dime" a few years ago > and > I guess I was expecting some balls-out punk a la Black Flag or > something, > and instead was confronted with that most horrifying of musical quirks, > the SLAP BASS. I became nauseated after several tracks and ended up > selling the record. People have been telling me I should give them > another chance, and given that they've inspired some of my favorite > bands > (Neutral Milk Hotel, Uncle Tupelo - who even have a song called "D. > Boon") - I guess I should, but I'm not sure if I can take the slap > bass... AHHHH!!!! What?? My ears, they burneth mucho!! Okay... must calm down. I think you're throwin' out the baby with the bathwater here-- I certainly have no love of slap bass; in fact I hate it, and never in 19 years of listening to Double Nickels has it ever occurred to me to class that as slap bass. It's funky as hell, yeah, but it's just not what I think of as slap bass. Flea, that's slap bass-- yuk. Mike Watt was miles and miles away from that... he was always throwing in individual notes that popped out at you, but it never had that horrid in-your-eardrum obnixiousness. Also, when Watt started playing in this style (on the preceding EP, Buzz Or Howl Under The Influence Of Heat,) no one had EVER played like that, in or out of rock. His playing became more cartoonish in a couple more years, but within that '84-'85 window it was something new and gigantic in the earth. I don't want to sound hysterical, but it causes me such agony to think that someone with such great taste in music is being deprived of an album that I and probably many others on this list count among the all-time Top 5. Yes, I'm an '84-'86 SST snob for sure, but Double Nickels is like the punk-rock I Ching-- cue it up on random and find a gnomic clue to any predicament in which you might find yourself. Here's a thought-- Mike Watt played only with a pick for the first several records, thus rendering the funky finger-style you didn't like impossible. Maybe you should dig on those as a Minutemen gateway...? I'm thinking of the first 2 LP's, The Punch Line and What Makes A Man Start Fires. You can get both on one CD, "Post-Mersh Vol. 1". That stuff's even more terse and high-impact, but the style is missing the hyperfunk element, closer to classic art-punk. Lyrics are already nearly as good as on Double Nickels. When I'm in the right mood, these two records are the equal of the later opus. Jon "The Evangelist" Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:41:06 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: robyn spamcock a cow-orker of mine got some spam with the following decoy text in it that seems just a little more hitchcockesque that not... Theres more to her problem than just rebellion. Yes, please move away, lancaster said authoritatively, in a loud voice, give the man some air, let us through to him. Actually, you know, that day wasnt the first time id wanted to hold your hand, but it was the first time i knew it wouldnt frighten you if i did. Im going to miss your flute playing, he said when carl stopped and put the instrument back in its case. woj n.p. elysian fields on wfmu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:43:09 -0400 From: Jon Lewis Subject: Re: Too Faust For You (AKA Amon Duul II You What You Did II Me) On Wednesday, July 7, 2004, at 01:03 PM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > As far as Tangerine Dream is concerned, I have one CD only, Lily On > The Beach. It's not thought as one of their best from what I gather. > Phaedra is generally thought as being the best TD, correct? > > > Erm... depends on if you want the soothing electronic stuff or the post-Interstellar Overdrive electric freakout stuff. I prefer the latter by a lightyear, thus my T. Dream recommendations are limited to the first four LP's, when Edgar Froese was still a guitarist and a crazy one at that-- and, on the first record, when Klaus Schulze was still a drummer and just as mad. The first LP, Electronic Meditation, sounds exactly like its cover (a mutilated doll with tons of wires bursting out of it) and its most famous song title (Journey Through A Burning Brain). This one is the most freeform and full of electric guitar, sounding like Barrett, Blue Cheer and that guy from Big Brother & The Holding Company doing improv. Klaus Schulze goes apeshit. It's actually a pretty difficult record. The second, Alpha Centauri, tempers the freeform toward a bit more accessibility. Still an electric freakout record, but with more of a spacey element added. Interesting punk-rock flute playing, too. I listen to this one much more than the 1st. The third, Zeit, was a double LP with four sidelong tracks. The mood is much calmer and broader, but the textures are very organic, combining electronics with four cellos, guitar, real drums, etc. The fourth, Atem, brings back the evil freakout power but combines it with the sonic richness of Zeit, then throws a major curveball on the last song: vocals appear for the first time, but it's the whole band grunting, chanting and shouting in nonsense Kubrick-Ape language as if warding off cave-demons. I like Alpha Centauri and Atem best. But if you're specifically a fan of Klaus Schulze's early freerock drumming style, you should hear Electronic Meditation too. These are all available cheap on the domestic front-- on Sequel Records when I bought them. As far as I'm concerned, it's a totally different band when they go all-synth with Phaedra. Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:07:14 -0700 From: Vendren Subject: Re: bands beginning with M, continued From: "Natalie Jane"> Re. another cult band beginning with M that Rex mentioned... the > Minutemen. I picked up "Double Nickels on the Dime" a few years ago and > I guess I was expecting some balls-out punk a la Black Flag or something, > and instead was confronted with that most horrifying of musical quirks, > the SLAP BASS. I became nauseated after several tracks and ended up > selling the record. People have been telling me I should give them > another chance, and given that they've inspired some of my favorite bands If it makes you feel better I don't like them much either (and also liking many bands that cite them). I bought a couple of their discs way back when, including "Double Nickels," but they never grew on me. I tried again recently. I don't mind the bass style, though I find it a bit monotonous on "Double Nickels". I just always thought they were more cerebral than emotional, and more about building songs around ideas and concepts, as opposed to writing real finished songs. I like even my fiercest punk to have strong melody, in verses as well as chorus, and find their melodies inconsistent. They could really play though, and had a tremendous visceral intensity. When it comes to "arty" early punk, I always preferred Wire, the Fall and the Buzzcocks. As for the Mekons: "The Mekons Rock N Roll" and "Fear and Whiskey" are my favourites. Palle - --- Now Playing: Sun Kil Moon - Ghosts of the Great Highway ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:48:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: bands beginning with M, continued Natalie Jane wrote: > instead was confronted with that most horrifying of musical quirks, > the SLAP BASS. A curious bugaboo to fixate on. That sure eliminates a whole lot of music from your world. Jon: > Double Nickels is like the punk-rock I Ching-- cue it up on > random and find a gnomic clue to any predicament in which > you might find yourself. Heh. Good line. While we're here, the 10 greatest M-bands are: 1 The Minutemen 2 The Move 3 My Bloody Valentine 4 Mission of Burma 5 The Monkees 6 Midnight Oil 7 The Meat Puppets 8 Mouse on Mars 9 Moby Grape 10 Mott the Hoople So, there you go. But, really, you can't go wrong as long as you don't mention Morrissey. ;) Speaking of M-bands, the last Modest Mouse album just went Gold. Amazing! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:19:25 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Coming out of dormancy to say... Goddamn, this new Rush CD fucking *rocks!!!* - --Quail PS: Oh, and -- go Edwards! The New York Post screwed it up yesterday, and printed zillions of "Kerry Picks Gephardt." I saw that before I got my CNN news brief, and Jesus, did my heart sink. Finding out it was really Edwards was like finding out that a feature film of "Shadow Over Innsmouth" would be directed by David Cronenberg rather than Renny Harlin. PPS: Hey -- two positive Canadian references! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:58:24 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Coming out of dormancy to say... On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:19:25 -0400, "The Great Quail" said: > was like finding out that a feature film of "Shadow Over Innsmouth" would > be > directed by David Cronenberg rather than Renny Harlin. I'm not sure who Renny Harlin is - other than gathering that he's a film director - but really, he ought to cast Henry Rollins in a part, just so someone can say "Henry Rollins in a Renny Harlin film." Go ahead, say it - it's fun! - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:05:09 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: RE: Too Faust For You (AKA Amon Duul II You What You Did II Me) Michael B: > Also, long overdue I my part, The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers. Bully for you! Indispensible. > As far as Tangerine Dream is concerned, I have one CD only, Lily On >The Beach. It's not thought as one of their best from what I gather. >Phaedra is generally thought as being the best TD, correct? I ain't got no Tangerine Dream, but I do have Kaleidoscope's album by that title. Does that count? (Don't answer... of course it doesn't...) I do now have Tago Mago and Ege Bimyasi, for what that's worth... - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:14:02 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: bands beginning with M, continued Nat: >I was actually inspired to check out the >Mekons after reading a compilation of Jon Langford's (and some other >guy's) brilliant comic strip, "Great Pop Things." I'm sure some of you >have read this... I can't recommend it highly enough for the discerning >music geek with a sense of humor - which pretty much includes everyone on >this list.... It's fantastic. Is it still ongoing? My copy of the collection has some Guinness spilled on it, which, while not inappropriate, makes for some crusty reading. >Re. another cult band beginning with M that Rex mentioned... the >Minutemen. I picked up "Double Nickels on the Dime" a few years ago and >I guess I was expecting some balls-out punk a la Black Flag or something, >and instead was confronted with that most horrifying of musical quirks, >the SLAP BASS. I became nauseated after several tracks and ended up >selling the record. Well, very few bands considered to be quintessentialy "punk" sound *less* punk than the minutemen. The relevant reference points are certainly less their hardcore contemporaries and more like Wire and earlier stuff like the Stooges, MC5, etc. I can see Watt's bass showboating being off-putting, but he kinda struggles with that himself as part of his subject matter, and it's that very incongruousness (or self-contained dichotomy?) that makes them seem cool to me. But I live in LA, and liking Watt is sort of a regional requirement for old-school indie-types. He also travels in the same circles as your Nels Clines, Carla Bozuliches, Sonic Youths, etc. so he's kinda hard to avoid. Which I don't mind, although YMM&CDV. - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:11:00 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Coming out of dormancy to say... On Jul 7, 2004, at 11:19 AM, The Great Quail wrote: > PS: Oh, and -- go Edwards! The New York Post screwed it up yesterday, > and > printed zillions of "Kerry Picks Gephardt." http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0706041post1.jpg Funny thing, Will Ferrell was in full Ron Burgandy character promoting "Anchorman" on the Today show yesterday morn. He was holding up a copy of the [incorrect] Post and proclaimed it to be a fine example of journalistic tabloidism. Or something to that effect. ;) Has anyone seen the updated Anchorman ad where Ron says "We beat Spider-Man this weekend?" Then, "Oh, the movie's not out yet." Gotta love it. The quotes coming out of this one are priceless too: "What if for tonight we weren't co-workers, we were... co-people." - -Steve P.P.S. Please please PLEASE let Anchorman be the uproarious comedy of the Summer, as opposed to the horrible train wreck that was "Dodgeball." eeesh - -- Steve Talkowski Animation Director / Hornet Inc. 213 West 35th St. Suite 605 New York, NY 10001 http://www.hornetinc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:28:19 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: bands beginning with M, continued Eb: >Speaking of M-bands, the last Modest Mouse album just went Gold. >Amazing! There's actually a kind of interesting peak into the mainstream perception of the new explosion in popular indie-bands in Entertaiment Weekly... they have MM, Franz Ferdinand, Yeah Yeah Yeahs... hey, is an alliterative name the key to indie crossover all of the sudden? Anyway, I'm start to think it Feels Like 1992... a musical sungenre beloved to me is breaking through, but it seems like its most successsful avatars are the bands I find to be just okay (Modest Mouse/Nirvana, Franz Ferdinand/Lemonheads, Yeah Yeah Yeahs/Julianna Hatfield etc.) as opposed to my personal favorites or the bands I find really deserving of the attention (The Shins/Mudhoney, Ted Leo/Sonic Youth, New Pornographers/MBV). It's a rough parallel, but the vibe is similar. Anyone else? - -Rex, changing the name of his band to Radioactive Rainland Reality just to hedge his bets... Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:57:03 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Too Faust For You (AKA Amon Duul II You What You Did II Me) I wrote: >> Also, long overdue I my part, The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers. Rex wrote: >Bully for you! Indispensible. And I meant to say, long overdue ON my part, not I my part. My 1970's essentials list that I don't own has some other glaring indispensables that I am too embarrassed to admit! Like those guys in the leather jackets that all have the same last name which also was the band name. Beyond Wire and The Clash, my 1970's punk collection is pretty thin. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:36:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: bands beginning with M, continued > they have MM, Franz Ferdinand, Yeah Yeah Yeahs... hey, is an > alliterative name the key to indie crossover all of the sudden? Also, that Touch & Go dance band called !!!...alternately Chk Chk Chk or some such?? Hrm. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:46:10 -0400 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: Googling Oneself I am not a Feminine Spirituality Coach who explores the Roots of Balance with biofeedback machines. I was not born on Sept. 6 1864 in Scotland. I am not the Assistant Registrar of Ryerson University or even a recently retired librarian with the San Diego Public Library. But I am listening to a ham radio with apparent pleasure at the rattailantenna.com site. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:16:16 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: mmm, bop Eb postulates: > While we're here, the 10 greatest M-bands are: What a strange list. I'll give you Midnight Oil, but what about: Mothers of Invention MC5 Motorhead Metallica Mano Negra Megadeth Mekons Ministry Molly Hatchet Moody Blues Michael "do the 'Mondays, Happy' qualify...no? why not?" Wells Ps. and for Ed Poole, if he's still listening: MONKS OF DOOM! Wahoooooooo... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 20:32:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: mmm, bop Michael Wells, ever the list's old-school hard-rock lobbyist: >> While we're here, the 10 greatest M-bands are: > > What a strange list. I'll give you Midnight Oil, but what about: > > Mothers of Invention > MC5 > Motorhead > Metallica > Mano Negra > Megadeth > Mekons > Ministry > Molly Hatchet > Moody Blues Well, OK...I could put the Mothers at the top of my list. It's just that I have all that stuff filed under "Z." Phooey on the rest of your choices. Yes, I've always found the Mekons' albums really drab, clumsy and charmless. Pass. I suppose Motorhead and Metallica might be contenders for an "objective" all-time list, but they ain't my personal thing. I think your list is even stranger. MOLLY HATCHET??? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 23:01:30 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: mmm, bop On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:16:16 -0500, "Michael Wells" said: > What a strange list. I'd have to say your list is more idiosyncratic... > Mothers of Invention maybe... > MC5 influential, but...? > Motorhead > Metallica I've tried several times, but I still can't get my head around metal - apparently I'm not as in touch w/my inner 13-year-old... > Mano Negra Are you serious? > Megadeth see above... > Mekons Okay, this I might support... > Ministry no freakin way, dude... > Molly Hatchet no freakin way, dude (Southern division) > Moody Blues Okay, give me this: at least I'm not laughing. They actually did some pretty good stuff. But still..."breathe deep the gathering gloom..."? Here are a handful I'd put unequivocally in my Fave M-Band category: My Bloody Valentine Mission of Burma Mercury Rev Mekons Magnetic Fields Here are some admittedly more obscure choices: Macha Marmoset Multiple Cat And here are some I'm not as sure belong quite so high in the list, even though I like 'em pretty well: Magic Band (kind of a cheat: belongs under Captain Beefheart...even though their newer, post-Captain stuff is very fine) Aimee Mann Momus Joni Mitchell Bob Mould (more for the Huskers, though) The Move Mott the Hoople Moonshake Monks of Doom Meat Beat Manifesto Minutemen (whom I've always respected more than truly enjoyed...) Honorary jazz division: Thelonious Monk Charles Mingus And my fave classical dude: Olivier Messiaen - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. 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