From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #185 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 25 2004 Volume 13 : Number 185 Today's Subjects: ----------------- reap [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: I Am the Hoser ["Maximilian Lang" ] RE: I Am the Hoser ["Palle Hoffstein" ] Re: top 10s [James Dignan ] Ya govoryu po-Russkie (ochen plokho) [James Dignan ] Re: Number 17/Of Montreal/ Scarlet's Well ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Ya govoryu po-Russkie (ochen plokho) ["Fortissimo" ] What, the New Pornographers don't even make the top 35? [steve ] APB- web update [James Dignan ] Re: Top 10s ["Matt Sewell" ] RE: Top 10s ["Palle Hoffstein" ] Re: Number 17/Of Montreal/ Scarlet's Well ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Newz ["The Mammal Brain" ] ack! AD WARNING IN LINK FROM OTHER POSTING! [Dolph Chaney ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #181 [James Dignan ] Re: Top 10s [Jon Lewis ] Re: Top 10s ["Stewart C. Russell" ] robyn @ bumbershoot [fingerpuppets ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap Inventor of 'Escape' Dies Computer Pioneer Bob Bemer Worked on ASCII Code for IBM DALLAS (June 24) - Bob Bemer, a computer pioneer who helped develop the ASCII coding system and the technology that led to the "escape" key on keyboards, has died at the age of 84 after battling cancer, his caregiver said on Thursday. Bemer died on Tuesday at his home near Possum Kingdom Lake, Texas, 120 miles west of Dallas. He worked for several years for IBM Corp. in the late 1950s and 1960s, and it was there that he helped develop the American Standard Code for Information Interchange. ASCII is a format code used in most computers in the world that allows them to read text as a binary number. Bemer is also credited with writing the computer sequence that allows for the "escape" command. The escape command was seen as a major innovation in computing because it allowed users to move backward or sideways in a program. He won the Computer Pioneer Award in 2002 from the IEEE Computer Society for his work in making it easier for people to move text and images on a computer screen. "Computer power is work power, but it is also knowledge power, of the kind that has been used throughout history for aggrandizement as well as the good of the people," Bemer wrote on his Web site. 06/24/04 17:12 ET ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin "I'm going to keep playing music until somebody shoots me." -- Scott McCaughey "It would not now surprise me in the least if, one night on TV, right there during The Memo, [Bill] O'Reilly declared himself to be the Grand Duchess Anastasia." -- Charles Pierce on MSNBC.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:22:22 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: I Am the Hoser >From: "Palle Hoffstein" >Subject: RE: I Am the Hoser >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0700 >A top Canadian 35, just because that's the number of Canadian albums that >occurred to me on my lunch break. > The album that gave us "Oh Superman." Sorry, Laurie Anderson is from Chicago. No one likes KD Lang's Absolute Torch and Twang? Shame. Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:40:38 -0700 From: "Palle Hoffstein" Subject: RE: I Am the Hoser #Behalf Of Maximilian Lang # #Sorry, Laurie Anderson is from Chicago. Oh, man, you're right. I think I even knew that. Why was I thinking she was Canadian? Probably because O Superman was so inescapable on Canadian radio and video, without being really popular, that I thought she must qualify as "CanCon." (We have Canadian Content laws that require some 35% of radio song playlists to be Canadian. It's supposed to help promote Canadian artists, but instead of playing a variety of Canadian acts, instead they play the same few Canadians to death. So the country stations are 35% Shania Twain.) #No one likes KD Lang's Absolute Torch and Twang? Shame. # # Max I like lots of her songs, but never found any album of hers to be solid all the way through. Helluva voice, though. Palle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:09:49 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: top 10s Jeff sez: > > Still reading? why? > >To find the key to the otherwise mysterious set of asterisks above >perhaps? it was mentioned before the list! I quote: >Reducing it to >a maximum of one album per artist cut it down considerably to 58, >(with those artists with multiple albums on the original list >indicated by the number of asterisks next to their names below) Eb added: >Mmm, Sam Phillips isn't Canadian. And Heart is kind of a gray area -- >seems like most people think of them being from Seattle, rather than >Vancouver. I stand corrected about Sam Phillips. As for Heart - they're surely as Canadian as the Band, who got quite a few mentions. Steppenwolf, anyone? > > 4 - Daddy's Highway - The Bats > >Damn, you like the Bats a lot. well, it's the only one of their albums I'd put in the top 50... >And Ultra Vivid Scene isn't British. they're not?? I was fooled by the sound there. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:50:24 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Ya govoryu po-Russkie (ochen plokho) >I know we have some cunning linguists here - can anyone help my friend >out with this? > >On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:49:22 -0800, "Tim Prchal" >... said: > > > I've gotten most of the lines I needed for my _Frankenstein_ audio > > script done, but I'm still working on turning "I was robbed, and the > > robber was a monster!" (or something like that) into Russian. The nearest I can do is "Somebody robbed me - and the robber was a monster", which becomes (IIRC) "Kto-to mnye grabil - i razboinik buil chudovitshche!" the "a"s in grabil is a schwa, and the chudovitshche uses the same horrible letter sound as the better-known word tovaritshch. James (who is impressed to see that the sentence "He robbed" becomes "On grabit" in Russian!) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:56:00 -0400 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: RE: I am the hoser Note to Palle Hoffstein: I was pleased to see Blue Peter in your band list, and they WERE one of the best new wave ones around. I spent many a night enjoying them around 1986-87 in London Ontario. The lead singer was a lanky handsome fellow, good voice, great band. "Radio Silence" and "Don't Walk on Past" are two songs I still have in my collection. Ah, another band that was great in that time and place was Suffer Machine, but they didn't seem to translate to record - only live were they transcendent. Then we had our baby in 1988, and all outings to night clubs ended. I've picked up two suggestions here for downloading: Decembrists and Of Montreal. Fun! Not sure if they're keepers though... Barbara Soutar Victoria, B.C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:44:09 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Number 17/Of Montreal/ Scarlet's Well Palle Hoffstein wrote: > > "Satanic Panic" is ... much more slick and focused, as if they just > decided to make the band thing a serious gig. Atually, SPitA is just Kevin Barnes pretty much playing alone. The usual suspects in the earlier albums are not involved. I've been listening to the entire set of of Montreal albums in chronological order. They're consistent in being pleasantly good -- but they are all very different. The early albums -- 'Cherry Peel', 'The Bedside Drama', and 'The Bird Who Continues To Eat The Rabbit's Flower - -- are all quite simple musically, but the lyrics are great. I think there was a lot of early The Who in these, back when they were young and silly. Notwithstanding oM's better-than-the-original cover of 'Disguises'. Then there are the middle albums, 'The Gay Parade' and 'Coquelicot', big silly sprawling comedy prog concept albums. I love them dearly, and can pretty much whistle 'em all the way through. Even the bit about the three-legged hyena-cicadas. The more recent albums are a complete change in style, though they're kind of explained in the compilation/special 'If He is ...", which kind of seques between the daftness of Coquelicot and the harder Aldhils. 'Aldhils Arboretum', for me, has the edge over SPitA, but that could just be through lack of familiarity with the new album. 'Jennifer Louise' is one of the insanely great pop songs, and the rest of the album just reeks of The Kinks. I think a lot of acid has been taken in making the new album. I'd put in a minor recommendation for "The Early 4-Track Recordings", if only for the silly story about Dustin Hoffman that the track titles purport to tell. "Horse & Elephant Eatery" is a fun little truffle too; nothing really memorable, but enjoyable overall. Make sure you check out oM artist David Barnes's site, The Bee With Wheels, . His cartoons and writing are great. His illustrated life story is a hoot, especially the bit about facial hair. Stewart (who thinks this might well be the longest post he's ever sent to fegmaniax.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:41:26 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Number 17/Of Montreal/ Scarlet's Well Palle Hoffstein wrote: > >"Satanic Panic" is ... much more slick and focused, as if they just decided > to make the band thing a serious gig. Atually, SPitA is just one of the Barnes brothers pretty much playing alone. The usual suspects in the earlier albums are not involved. I've been listening to the entire set of of Montreal albums in chronological order. They're consistent in being pleasantly good -- but they are all very different. The early albums -- 'Cherry Peel', 'The Bedside Drama', and 'The Bird Who Continues To Eat The Rabbit's Flower - -- are all quite simple musically, but the lyrics are great. I think there was a lot of early The Who in these, back when they were young and silly. Notwithstanding the better-than-the-original cover of 'Disguises'. Then there are the middle albums, 'The Gay Parade' and 'Coquelicot', big silly sprawling comedy prog concept albums. I love them dearly, and can pretty much whistle 'em all the way through. Even the bit about the three-legged hyena-cicadas. The more recent albums are a complete change in style. 'Aldhils Arboretum', for me, has the edge over SPitA, but that could just be through lack of familiarity with the new album. 'Jennifer Louise' is one of the insanely great pop songs, and the rest of the album just reeks of The Kinks. I think a lot of acid has been taken in making the new album. Make sure you check out the artist Barnes brother's site, The Bee With Wheels, linked from . His cartoons and writing are great. His illustrated life story is a hoot. Stewart (who thinks this might well be the longest post he's ever sent to fegmaniax.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:12:35 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: reap Wow, any user of vi should be a little touched. I'd love to know how many times a day I use the Escape key. Between work and email, must be at least 100. - -Ken On Thu, Jun 24, 2004, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Inventor of 'Escape' Dies > Computer Pioneer Bob Bemer Worked on ASCII Code for IBM > > DALLAS (June 24) - Bob Bemer, a computer pioneer who helped > develop the ASCII coding system and the technology that led > to the "escape" key on keyboards, has died at the age of 84 > after battling cancer, his caregiver said on Thursday. > > Bemer died on Tuesday at his home near Possum Kingdom Lake, > Texas, 120 miles west of Dallas. > > He worked for several years for IBM Corp. in the late 1950s > and 1960s, and it was there that he helped develop the > American Standard Code for Information Interchange. ASCII > is a format code used in most computers in the world that > allows them to read text as a binary number. > > Bemer is also credited with writing the computer sequence > that allows for the "escape" command. The escape command > was seen as a major innovation in computing because it > allowed users to move backward or sideways in a program. > > He won the Computer Pioneer Award in 2002 from the IEEE > Computer Society for his work in making it easier for > people to move text and images on a computer screen. > > "Computer power is work power, but it is also knowledge > power, of the kind that has been used throughout history > for aggrandizement as well as the good of the people," > Bemer wrote on his Web site. > > > 06/24/04 17:12 ET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:13:45 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Ya govoryu po-Russkie (ochen plokho) On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:50:24 +1200, "James Dignan" said: > >I know we have some cunning linguists here - can anyone help my friend > >out with this? > > > >On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:49:22 -0800, "Tim Prchal" > >... said: > > > > > I've gotten most of the lines I needed for my _Frankenstein_ audio > > > script done, but I'm still working on turning "I was robbed, and the > > > robber was a monster!" (or something like that) into Russian. > > The nearest I can do is "Somebody robbed me - and the robber was a > monster", which becomes (IIRC) "Kto-to mnye grabil - i razboinik buil > chudovitshche!" > > the "a"s in grabil is a schwa, and the chudovitshche uses the same > horrible letter sound as the better-known word tovaritshch. Hmmm...someone else suggested (my transliteration - he had a nice Cyrillic character set that shows up on my screen but doesn't reproduce when I reply...) "Ya bil razboynichan! I razboynik bil izvergom!" So we agree on "razboynik" and "bil" (with minor difs as to transliteration)...anyone care to adjudicate? I'm guessing - from my meager knowledge of Russian - that the first phrase was rendered "I was robbed" rather than "somebody robbed me." Since this is in the background, and since "izvergom" is a hell of a lot easier to pronounce than "chudovitshche," unless it's just wrong, I'm guessing my friend'll go that way... But I liked the "on grabit" possibility! - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:34:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Top 10s > TC: > Plus, the word "Supertramp" should be stricken from all languages. Give a little bit of your love to them. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:58:10 -0500 From: steve Subject: What, the New Pornographers don't even make the top 35? Oh well, there's always Trunk Monkey. URL----> And there's a new Matthew Sweet album coming out in Japan. - - Steve __________ Why do the God-inebriated opponents of the separation of church and state in America, the righteous citizens who see God's hand in everything that Fox News reports, insult the Founders by revising and even rejecting their God? - Leon Wieseltier ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:30:46 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re-issues I had been holding off on the re-issue of the Kinks' "The Village Green Preservation Society" until I saw a track listing. I already had the 28 track single disc re-issue that included the 15 track mono and 12 track stereo versions of the album (the two versions of the album only have 10 tracks in common), plus the mono single version of "Days". The additional 2 CDs worth of tracks look pretty interesting. I just read that the Clash's "London Calling" album will be getting the 3 disc re-issue treatment, too. There's a disc of demos and a DVD in addition to the original album. Also, the next set of Costello re-issues is due out on August 3rd. I might be about the only one really interested in these--it's not the better liked part of his catalogue (Goodbye Cruel World, Kojak Variety, and Almost Blue). btw--James recommended: >5 - David Kilgour and the Heavy Eights - David Kilgour A friend on this list had recommended this previously, and James also gave it his thumbs up. He helped me find a copy during our music buying binge. It happened to already be playing on my stereo just now when I came across his list of recommended NZ albums. Quite enjoyable and highly recommended. (I still haven't gotten around to getting the Muttonbirds CDs he mentioned, but really liked the tape in his car). Later, Marc If I ever get real rich, I hope I'm not real mean to poor people, like I am now. Jack Handy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:27:45 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: APB- web update To all of you who may be interested... My website has just been updated again (about time too!) for the first time in a few months. Any of you who feel like a wander around my new artwork and the like, it's all up and running (I hope!) warm fuzzies to all, James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:35:14 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Top 10s Oh come on, Dreamer at least is a very good song... Shit, did I type that out loud? Cheers Matt >From: Tom Clark > >Plus, the word "Supertramp" should be stricken from all languages. > >-tc - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:03:32 -0700 From: "Palle Hoffstein" Subject: RE: Top 10s #And Heart is kind of a gray area -- #seems like most people think of them being from Seattle, rather than #Vancouver. Heart were based here in Vancouver for a couple of years. We had a studio they could afford (Mushroom) where they recorded their first disc. And we had a better bar scene for young bands than Seattle. (The opposite it true now.) Local radio stations kept calling Heart "Canadian" and putting them on all-Canadian countdowns and such. I remember one of the Wilson sisters interviewed on a local rock station say something along the lines of "Look, we love Vancouver, but we're proud Americans, so stop with the whole Heart-is-Canadian thing." Canada is, I guess, a bit desperate at times. So they call bands like Martha And The Muffins a Canadian band, even though they only have one Canadian member, and live in the UK. #Note: I find it problematic to make Canadian lists. So many "Canadian" #albums are by Canadian exports whose music careers are firmly #entrenched in the States. And the Canadians who *do* stay based in the #homeland are generally, well, crummy. ;) My experience with Canadian acts is that one of three scenarios occur. 1. They find fame elsewhere, like Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Guess Who, The Band, even Brian Adams. 2. They have one great album, then suck. Suck bad. This seemed to happen to a whole slew of new wave bands who had one great album, then switched to bad AM pop or lame FM rock. The Spoons, Payolas, Platinum Blonde, Norther Pikes, I could go on. 3. They become great Canadian bands, virtually unknown outside of Canada, and spend a lifetime as a cult act. I think the Rheostatics are the best band Canada has ever produced. Sloan, the Tragically Hip, Blue Rodeo, I think are all good bands. But thier best work has rarely been heard outside the country. And, having posted my top 35 Canadian list already, two more albums that I really love come to mind. "For Him And The Girls" and "Lover/Fighter" by Hawksley Workman. Both would make my top 15, in fact. I also forgot about Sloan. Even though I am going to a Sloan and Hawksley Workman concert in two days! Palle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 08:53:58 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Number 17/Of Montreal/ Scarlet's Well jings, the perils of using Mozilla mail's 'edit as new function'. The later e-mail's the better one. Soh-ree, as we say in Toronto. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:06:51 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Top 10s Tom Clark declared: >> the word "Supertramp" should be stricken from all languages. I'm not sure if you are dissing the band or just their name. I do like some Supertramp songs but that has to be one of the all time worst band names especially for a band that doesn't suck. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:17:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Newz Judge Suspected of Masturbating in Court Thu Jun 24, 2004 02:32 PM ET OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) - Oklahoma's attorney general wants a state judge removed on suspicion he frequently masturbated and used a device for enhancing erections while his court was in session, a spokesman for the office said on Thursday. Attorney General Drew Edmondson filed a petition on Wednesday with state judicial authorities seeking the removal of Sapulpa District Judge Donald Thompson, 57, for "conduct constituting an offense involving moral turpitude in violation of the Oklahoma Constitution." Thompson was not immediately available for comment. The judge, elected to the bench in the state's nonpartisan judicial elections, is based about 80 miles northeast of Oklahoma City. In the petition, the attorney general charged Thompson used a penis pump, a device billed as providing sexual pleasure and promising better erections and larger penis size, during trials and exposed himself to a court reporter several times while masturbating on the bench. "On one occasion, Ms. (Lisa) Foster (Thompson's court reporter for 15 years), saw Judge Thompson holding his penis up and shaving underneath it with a disposable razor while on the bench," the petition reads. Several witnesses, including jurors in Thompson's court and police officers called to testify in trials, said in the petition they heard the "swooshing" sound of a penis pump during trials and saw the judge slumped in his chair, with his elbows on his knees, working the device. The witnesses said the pump sounded like a blood pressure cuff being pumped up. According to the petition, Thompson admitted he had a penis pump under the bench during a murder trial but he told investigators it was a gag gift from a friend. The petition also charges Thompson with firing his former court reporter after she cooperated with investigators. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:19:24 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: ack! AD WARNING IN LINK FROM OTHER POSTING! I didn't scroll all the way down before including the URL in my last post - -- there is a porn ad at the very bottom of the page. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:17:03 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Newz Wow -- life imitates Monty Python, yet again. Counsel: Exhibit A m'lud, Miss Rita Thang, an artist's model, Swedish accordion teacher and cane-chair sales lady, was found guilty under the Rude Behaviour Act in the accused's court. The accused, m'lud, sentenced her 'to be taken from this place and brought round to his place'. Other Counsel: Objection, m'lud. Judge Kilbraken: Objection sustained. Judge: You shut up! Objection overruled. Counsel: The accused then commented on Miss Thang's bodily structure, made several not-at-all legal remarks on the subject of fun and then placed his robes over his head and began to emit low moans. Judge: Have you anything to say in your defence? Judge Kilbraken: I haven't had any for weeks. At 11:17 AM 6/25/2004, The Mammal Brain wrote: >Judge Suspected of Masturbating in Court >Thu Jun 24, 2004 02:32 PM ET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:34:10 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #181 > > http://snopes.com/autos/hazards/sigalert.asp > >Looks like he didn't know how to spell *either* of his names. > >I still contend that no one in the entire state has ever used the >phrase "Southland" in casual conversation. Odd, how the term is so >ingrained within the local news media. Strange - we hear that term here all the time :) (ICYDK, Southland is the province immediately south of here) James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:40:53 -0400 From: Jon Lewis Subject: Re: Top 10s On Friday, June 25, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > Tom Clark declared: >>> the word "Supertramp" should be stricken from all languages. > > I'm not sure if you are dissing the band or just their name. I do like > some Supertramp songs but that has to be one of the all time worst band > names especially for a band that doesn't suck. > It doesn't suck so much once you hear where they swiped it from: AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A SUPERTRAMP, the autobio of the early twentieth century hobo nature-poet W.H. Davies. I know a couple of his poems from their being set to music by Sam Barber, and they're really great. Davies was definitely a Beat way, way before the term. I always meant to read that book... [scribbles down library reminder]... As for the band, can't say I really like anything by them enough to put it on voluntarily. But I've always found Hodgson's voice kind of fun in that Al Stewart/Gerry Rafferty "I am a diminutive hedgehog troubadour" kinda way. Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:03:04 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Top 10s Jon Lewis wrote: > > "I am a diminutive hedgehog troubadour" Anyone who had ever heard hedgehogs shagging in the undergrowth would have likened the term to Rammstein, or some other death metal outfit. Man, are they loud -- and grunty, too! Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:04:47 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: robyn @ bumbershoot according to yep roc , robyn will be at bumbershoot in seattle on september 4th. bumbershoot does not confirm but they don't have much information on their site yet. woj ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #185 ********************************