From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #184 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, June 24 2004 Volume 13 : Number 184 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Top 10s [James Dignan ] RE: Wednesday wanderings ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Wednesday wanderings [Carrie Galbraith ] Happy birthday, Stewart! [Jill Brand ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #181 [Michael R Godwin ] RE: I Am the Hoser ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: I Am the Hoser ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Happy birthday, Stewart! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #183 [Michael R Godwin ] RE: I Am the Hoser ["Bachman, Michael" ] We Have the Technology, [Christopher Hintz ] RE: Number 17/Of Montreal/ Scarlet's Well ["Palle Hoffstein" ] Re: We Have the Technology, ["craigie*" ] Re: Top 10s [Eb ] RE: I Am the Hoser ["Palle Hoffstein" ] Re: We Have the Technology, [Capuchin ] Re: Top 10s [Tom Clark ] Re: We Have the Technology, [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:46:41 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Top 10s As for a top national music lists - I hate top 10s, so here are 12 from Canada: 1 - Harvest - Neil Young 2 - Various Positions - Leonard Cohen 3 - Hejira - Joni Mitchell 4 - Acadie - Daniel Lanois 5 - Inner City Front - Bruce Cockburn 6 - Robbie Robertson - Robbie Robertson 7 - After the Gold Rush - Neil Young 8 - Ladies of the Canyon - Joni Mitchell 9 - Cruel Inventions - Sam Phillips 10 - Bound by the Beauty - Jane Siberry 11 - Summertime Dream - Gordon Lightfoot 12 - Dreamboat Annie - Heart 17 from Australia: 1 - Diesel and Dust - Midnight Oil 2 - Born Sandy Devotional - The Triffids 3 - The Blurred Crusade - The Church 4 - Human Frailty - Hunters and Collectors 5 - No More Shall we Part - Nick Cave 6 - Calenture - The Triffids 7 - All Fools Day - The saints 8 - Serene Machine - Ed Kuepper 9 - Tallulah - The GoBetweens 10 - What's a Few Men? (a.k.a. Fate) - Hunters and Collectors 11 - Seance - The Church 12 - Measure for Measure - Icehouse 13 - Earth and Sun and Moon - Midnight Oil 14 - Spring Hill Fair - The GoBetweens 15 - ...Art - Regurgitator 16 - Jack Frost - Jack Frost 17 - Wish list - Falling Joys and, of course, 27 from New Zealand: 1 - Envy of Angels - Muttonbirds 2 - Crowded House - Crowded House 3 - Submarine Bells - The Chills 4 - Daddy's Highway - The Bats 5 - David Kilgour and the Heavy Eights - David Kilgour 6 - True Colours - Split Enz 7 - The Muttonbirds - Muttonbirds 8 - Beat - Chris Knox 9 - Hail - Straitjacket Fits 10 - The Crusader - Scribe 11 - Sugar Mouth - David Kilgour 12 - Weeville - Tall Dwarfs 13 - Last Exit to Garageland - Garageland 14 - Shihad - Shihad 15 - Dizrythmia - Split Enz 16 - Together Alone - Crowded House 17 - Traction - Supergroove 18 - Toy Love - Toy Love 19 - Hopetown - Dave Dobbyn 20 - Ready to Fly - Verlaines 21 - Navigator - Che Fu 22 - Hammers and Anvils - Graeme Downes 23 - Greedy - Headless Chickens 24 - Send You - Sneaky Feelings 25 - Horse Power - Phoenix Foundation 26 - Right first time - Th'Dudes 27 - Chinese Whispers - Greg Johnson as for the UK, my first pass cut it down to 87 albums. Reducing it to a maximum of one album per artist cut it down considerably to 58, (with those artists with multiple albums on the original list indicated by the number of asterisks next to their names below). A further pare-down dropped out the one album each by Genesis, Eric Clapton, Julian Cope, Deep Purple, Danielle Dax, Curve, House of Love, Elton John, Mike Oldfield, Monochrome Set, Sisters of Mercy, Al Stewart, Ultra Vivid Scene, Fairport convention, Pete Townshend, Oasis, Supertramp, and William Orbit. That still left the following 40 albums. 1 - Revolver - The Beatles***** 2 - Who's Next - The Who** 3 - Paris 1919 - John Cale 4 - English Settlement - XTC*** 5 - Another Green World - Brian Eno*** 6 - Imperial Bedroom - Elvis Costello*** 7 - London Calling - The Clash 8 - Scary Monsters - David Bowie*** 9 - Peter Gabriel IV - Peter Gabriel** 10 - Imagine - John Lennon* 11 - I Often Dream of Trains - Robyn Hitchcock*** 12 - Something Else - The Kinks 13 - Shoot Out the Lights - Richard & Linda Thompson** 14 - The Bends - Radiohead 15 - Dire Straits - Dire Straits 16 - Hounds of Love - Kate Bush** 17 - Singles going steady - The Buzzcocks 18 - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn - Pink Floyd* 19 - Oil and Gold - Shriekback* 20 - Red - King Crimson** 21 - Underwater Moonlight - The Soft Boys 22 - Heavy Horses - Jethro Tull*** 23 - Don't Try This at Home - Billy Bragg 24 - HQ (When an old cricketer leaves the crease) - Roy Harper 25 - To bring you my love - P.J. Harvey 26 - Arc of a Diver - Steve Winwood 27 - Disraeli Gears - Cream 28 - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen 29 - Homosapien - Pete Shelley 30 - Trailer Park - Beth Orton 31 - Tea for the Tillerman - Cat Stevens 32 - Unknown Pleasures - Joy Division 33 - Broken English - Marianne Faithfull 34 - Setting Sons - The Jam 35 - All Things Must Pass - George Harrison 36 - Aural Sculpture - The Stranglers 37 - Rattlesnakes - Lloyd Cole & The Commotions 38 - I'm the Man - Joe Jackson** 39 - Hatful of Hollow - The Smiths 40 - Lazer Guided Melodies - Spiritualized All very predictable, no doubt, but there are some names there which seem to have been missing from everyone's lists so far, so maybe it was worth doing after all. Still reading? why? James PS - happy Birthday Stewart! - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:07:47 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: Wednesday wanderings Are they the ones that take a solemn vow of anti-capitalism and disseminate their teachings via internet mailing lists? ;0) Matt >From: Carrie Galbraith >So I went to a Capuchin monastery this morning. >Lovely place. >Peaceful. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:41:19 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Wednesday wanderings The very ones!!!! The fingers were flying on the keyboards while we were touring... - - c On 24/giu/04, at 11:07, Matt Sewell wrote: > Are they the ones that take a solemn vow of anti-capitalism and > disseminate their teachings via internet mailing lists? > > ;0) > > Matt > >> From: Carrie Galbraith >So I went to a >> Capuchin > monastery this morning. >Lovely place. >Peaceful. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! > > *************************************************** "Patagonia is what's left, Patagonia, which befits my immense sadness, Patagonia and a trip to the South Seas" *************************************************** C. Galbraith / Ketone Press meketone@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:31:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Happy birthday, Stewart! It's that time of year again. Lift a pint for me. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:15:40 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #181 > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:19:31 -0500 > From: "Michael Wells" > Subject: Re: reap - and top 100? > I didn't see "Blow by Blow" or "Wired" on there, or anything by Cream. And > was Clapton British? Maybe not. You should have seen the savage reviews Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton have been getting over here recently: they commit two key offences - being old and being capable of playing the guitar. > Ask George Harrison. Seems like the great guitarists got shafted all > around...Blackmore on "Machine Head" by Deep Purple or perhaps "Rainbow > Rising?" 'Machine Head', eh? Now there is a great album, almost in the class of the Sweet's Greatest Hits, though 'Ballroom Blitz' just has the edge on 'Highway Star'. I'm with Michael, Eb, Jill etc on this stuff: I've got 11 of the albums mentioned, and I never summoned up any interest in the Madchester thing, which was obviously where they were coming from. I'd vote for Traffic, Cream, the Only Ones, the Undertones, Graham Parker and the Rumour, Mott, Stanshall (interesting TV prog on him last week), Michael Chapman, Squeeze, the Move, the (Kevin Ayers-era) Soft Machine etc etc. And what about Gong? Admittedly they have an Aussie slide guitarist and a Fr. sax-player, but several of them were Brits. Quail, are you claiming that Van the Man is American because Astral Weeks was recorded and broken in the States? On that basis I could claim Hendrix as a British act because his first records were all recorded and broken in the UK before anyone had heard of him over there. Besides which, Mitch and Noel were English, so that, democratically speaking, the JHE were a British outfit? Yes? No? Anyway, the best thing he ever did was that stunning reading of 'Richard Cory' when he was still in Them. > Sorry, more grumbling than usual with these things. What a crap list. > > Michael "maybe I'm just an old fogey, but damn" Wells No, Michael, you are a mere stripling! - - Mike Godwin n.p. The Mothers of Invention: You're probably wondering why I'm here (ever heard that one, Terry?) :-) PS My main memory of June 17th (apart from endless tuning problems) is of Alex playing Spooky Two and Revolver on shuffle play in the car on the way back (sings: "Better by you, better than me...") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:00:55 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: I Am the Hoser Jane Siberry - When I Was A Boy cub - Betty Cola Blue Rodeo - 5 days in July The Band - The Band Neil Young - After The Gold Rush Joni Mitchell - Blue Cowboy Junkies - The Trinity Sessions Mary Margaret O'Hara - Miss America The Tragically Hip - Fully Completely Rush - Moving Pictures And I guess I should put a Bachman-Turner Overdrive in as my #11, so B.T.O. - Not Fragile Michael (no relation to Randy) Bachman PS SCTV is on the air! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:24:29 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Top 10s On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:46:41 +1200, "James Dignan" said: > As for a top national music lists > 1 - Revolver - The Beatles***** > 2 - Who's Next - The Who** > 3 - Paris 1919 - John Cale > 4 - English Settlement - XTC*** > 5 - Another Green World - Brian Eno*** > 6 - Imperial Bedroom - Elvis Costello*** > 7 - London Calling - The Clash > 8 - Scary Monsters - David Bowie*** > 9 - Peter Gabriel IV - Peter Gabriel** > 10 - Imagine - John Lennon* > 11 - I Often Dream of Trains - Robyn Hitchcock*** > Still reading? why? To find the key to the otherwise mysterious set of asterisks above perhaps? - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:06:17 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: I Am the Hoser Bachman, Michael wrote: > Jane Siberry - When I Was A Boy > cub - Betty Cola > Blue Rodeo - ... I totally can't believe that you've got no Max Webster, Gorp, or Mayor McCa in there. ;-) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:05:10 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Happy birthday, Stewart! Jill Brand wrote: > It's that time of year again. Lift a pint for me. Thanks! The office is taking me out to lunch at a Scottish restaurant -- Haddock and chips, plain* bread and butter, mushy peas, Irn Bru, and an empire biscuit** to finish. cheers, Stewart *: plain bread: a curious Scottish white bread with no side crusts, but heavy crusts top and bottom. Confusingly sometimes called a "square loaf" despite it being twice as tall as it is wide. ** empire biscuit: two round shortcake cookies stuck together with jam, topped with white icing and a cherry. My late grandmother remembered when they were called "German Biscuits", pre-WW1. Now occasionally called German Biscuits again in Scotland. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:03:07 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #183 > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:48:57 +0000 > From: Tony Blackman > Subject: More Feggig nonsense... > Luckily it got better with Mike G's band surprising me with their (much > punkier than I was expecting) sound. Dolph gave his all and The New Moon > were just as good as usual. I'll eventually get round to committing > Mike's and Dolph's sets to CD/MP3 for those who were interested. Either > my incompetence (probably likelier) or the state of my battery meant > that I missed Matt's set. D'oh. Tony, I'm looking forward to hearing this (I think)! Too bad about the New Moon's set, which included not only Matt's songs but also some great flute solos from Phil somebody, who must have had access to the complete works of Roland Kirk during his formative years.. Jon Lewis lists: > 8. Incredible String Band-- Wee Tam And The Big Huge (originally > issued as one double album in the UK, right?) Right. And IIRC under that name ("Wee Tam and the Big Huge", not " 'Wee Tam' and 'The Big Huge' "). And yes, 'Joy of a Toy' is great! > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:34:46 -0500 > From: "Michael Wells" > Subject: I Am the Hoser > Thinking about the UK best albums got me wondering that since one of my two > favorite bands is Canadian, how would a Great White North version look? And > could I compile such a list? Of COURSE I could...but since I'm not a big > Tragically Hip, Leonard Cohen, Bryan Adams, Sarah Maclachan or Alanis > what's-her-face fan I figured it would shape up listing pretty hard to one > side, and it did: > > Rush - Moving Pictures > Rush - A Farewell to Kings > Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark > The Band - Music From Big Pink > Neil Young - Harvest > Neil Young - After the Gold Rush > Guess Who - American Woman > Heart - Dreamboat Annie + > Bruce Cockburn - Stealing Fire > Triumph - Allied Forces What, no Bachman-Turner Overdrive? Smashey and Nicey will be rotating in their graves. More seriously, where is the McGarrigle Sisters album with 'Heart like a wheel' and 'Complainte de St Catherine'? Anyway, here are 10 UK records (with alternatives) which didn't make the Guardian list - did they? Even the under-40s will struggle with this lot: Dave Edmunds - Repeat When Necessary (or Nick Lowe 'Jesus of Cool') Discovering Japan - Graham Parker and the Rumour (or 'Howlin' Wind') Donovan - Sunshine Superman (or 'Mellow Yellow') Fully qualified survivor - Michael Chapman Music in a Doll's House - Family (or 'Family Entertainment') The Only Ones (no alternative - 'Even Serpents Shine' isn't quite as good) Shooting at the Moon - Kevin Ayers and the Whole World (or the ACNE album) Syd Barrett - The Madcap Laughs (or 'Barrett') Traffic (or 'John Barleycorn must die') Vivian Stanshall - Sir Henry at Rawlinson's End (or the Bonzos 'Gorilla') - - Mike Godwin n.p. Famous Jug Band - Rabbit Heels ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:12:19 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: I Am the Hoser Bachman, Michael wrote: >> Jane Siberry - When I Was A Boy >> cub - Betty Cola >> Blue Rodeo - ... Stewart came back with: >I totally can't believe that you've got no Max Webster, Gorp, or Mayor >McCa in there. ;-) Well, maybe if the list was longer! I probably should have had JALE included. Max Webster - Mutiny Up My Sleeve, is on my list of CD's to get. Mike Goodwin wrote: >More seriously, where is the McGarrigle Sisters album with >'Heart like a wheel' and 'Complainte de St Catherine'? An unforgivable omission on my part!. And I have the LP and CD! Michael B. NP The Decemberists - Castaways and Cutouts ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:18:49 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Happy birthday, Stewart! Happy Birthday Stewart! Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:00:11 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Happy birthday, Stewart! Happy birthday to both of you! - -- "Stewart C. Russell" is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 24. Juni 2004 11:05 Uhr -0400 regarding Re: Happy birthday, Stewart!: > empire biscuit: two round shortcake cookies stuck together with jam, > topped with white icing and a cherry. My late grandmother remembered when > they were called "German Biscuits", pre-WW1. I wonder why. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that. However, pre-WW1 was pretty long ago, so dessert habits might have changed ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:11:22 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: RE: FEGig review, better late than never... Brian Hoare: >Matt kindly gave me a cd containing Dark Matter, the song about the >relocating cat that they opened with and a couple of others. Perhaps if you >ask him nicely... Hell, pay the man! It's really a nice piece of work. Looks like there are three songs on it, but there are actually four. All good stuff. - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:21:17 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: RE: Panic in the Streets of Greendale Jeffrey: >'Course, he wrote about them. > >"Got mashed potato - ain't got no t-bone": the potato is used as a >pomade, the t-bone as a comb (once the meat is gone, of course). Ah, yes, but then the lyrics go on to say... errrmmm... - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:25:25 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: I Am The Guardian Michael: >I can dig it. I'm pretty sure anyone under thirty-five wouldn't want much to >do with my 20: Hey there... thirtu-three and checking in with half of 'em. - -Rex (33, is that right?) Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:35:55 -0400 From: Christopher Hintz Subject: We Have the Technology, We can rebuild HER. Who, you query? Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes. Would it, dear fegs, be an especially heinous violation of applicable copyright laws for me to transfer my old VHS Brenda tape to DV and then burn it onto a DVD (or 37)? I might have to make a test copy (or 36) to make sure it works right, then, of course, I would have no further use for it (them), so I might as well give them away.... Rev. Christopher Hintz (yes, for real) annual delurking +++ If I were God, and the world treated me as it treated Him, I would kick the wretched thing to pieces. - --Martin Luther ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:50:20 -0700 From: "Palle Hoffstein" Subject: RE: Number 17/Of Montreal/ Scarlet's Well #You might not like TGP if you like SPITA. I do, but then I like oM's #tweeest stuff. # # Stewart # I love the new album. So, looking through the back catalogue I tried a listen to "The Gay Parade", and wow, is it ever silly. Then I had a listen to "Coquelicot Asleep in the Poppies: A Variety of Whimsical Verse" and it's even sillier. "Cocquelicot" has just be re-released by the way. I think I will buy them, they seem pretty cool, if a little Mad Hatter in approach. But, even though "Satanic Panic" is rather silly in its own right, it is very different - much more slick and focused, as if they just decided to make the band thing a serious gig. It reminds me of the shift the Flaming Lips made when they released "Transmissions From The Satellite Heart," still wierd as hell, but but with greater asprirations. Palle *** Now Playing: Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream Of Trains ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:45:03 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: We Have the Technology, On Jun 24, 2004, at 11:35 AM, Christopher Hintz wrote: > We can rebuild HER. > Who, you query? Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes. > > Would it, dear fegs, be an especially heinous violation of applicable > copyright laws for me to transfer my old VHS Brenda tape to DV and then > burn it onto a DVD (or 37)? I might have to make a test copy (or 36) > to make sure it works right, then, of course, I would have no further > use for it (them), so I might as well give them away.... > > You have every right to back up your VHS tape onto DVD. It's Fair Use. Giving away duplicates is a copyright violation. However, as I did with my Elixers&Remedies DVD extravaganza, you can provide a service for people who own the VHS but do not have the ability to burn their own DVD's. As long as you don't profit unreasonably by doing so. Then again, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:18:23 +0100 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: We Have the Technology, i would like to volunteer to test the 'region friendly-ness' of any test copies for use in the UK.... ....in case you ever think of moving here, of course... craigie* ...better late than never, until proven otherwise... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Clark" To: "fgz Groovers" Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: We Have the Technology, > On Jun 24, 2004, at 11:35 AM, Christopher Hintz wrote: > > > We can rebuild HER. > > Who, you query? Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes. > > > > Would it, dear fegs, be an especially heinous violation of applicable > > copyright laws for me to transfer my old VHS Brenda tape to DV and then > > burn it onto a DVD (or 37)? I might have to make a test copy (or 36) > > to make sure it works right, then, of course, I would have no further > > use for it (them), so I might as well give them away.... > > > > > > You have every right to back up your VHS tape onto DVD. It's Fair Use. > Giving away duplicates is a copyright violation. > However, as I did with my Elixers&Remedies DVD extravaganza, you can > provide a service for people who own the VHS but do not have the > ability to burn their own DVD's. As long as you don't profit > unreasonably by doing so. > > Then again, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:32:34 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Top 10s > James Dignan: > 1 - Harvest - Neil Young > 2 - Various Positions - Leonard Cohen > 3 - Hejira - Joni Mitchell > 4 - Acadie - Daniel Lanois > 5 - Inner City Front - Bruce Cockburn > 6 - Robbie Robertson - Robbie Robertson > 7 - After the Gold Rush - Neil Young > 8 - Ladies of the Canyon - Joni Mitchell > 9 - Cruel Inventions - Sam Phillips > 10 - Bound by the Beauty - Jane Siberry > 11 - Summertime Dream - Gordon Lightfoot > 12 - Dreamboat Annie - Heart Mmm, Sam Phillips isn't Canadian. And Heart is kind of a gray area -- seems like most people think of them being from Seattle, rather than Vancouver. Note: I find it problematic to make Canadian lists. So many "Canadian" albums are by Canadian exports whose music careers are firmly entrenched in the States. And the Canadians who *do* stay based in the homeland are generally, well, crummy. ;) > 4 - Daddy's Highway - The Bats Damn, you like the Bats a lot. > A further pare-down dropped out the one album each by Genesis, Eric > Clapton, Julian Cope, Deep Purple, Danielle Dax, Curve, House of Love, > Elton John, Mike Oldfield, Monochrome Set, Sisters of Mercy, Al > Stewart, Ultra Vivid Scene, Fairport convention, Pete Townshend, > Oasis, Supertramp, and William Orbit. > And Ultra Vivid Scene isn't British. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:26:31 -0700 From: "Palle Hoffstein" Subject: RE: I Am the Hoser A top Canadian 35, just because that's the number of Canadian albums that occurred to me on my lunch break. 1. Rheostatics - Introducing Happiness Best album ever, out of Canada. Also, the most Canadian band ever, for song content. 2. The Band - Music From Big Pink 3. Boys Brigade - Boys Brigade Lost New Wave Classic. Produced by Geddy Lee, but nothing like Rush. Never been released on CD. 4. The Band - The Band 5. Rational Youth - Cold War Night Life Lost New Wave Classic. One of the best electronica albums of all time. 6. Rheostatics - Whale Music Not to be confused with their soundtrack to the movie Whale Music. 7. Blue Peter- Falling Lost New Wave Classic. One of the best of the New Romantic bands. 8. Blue Rodeo - Five Days In May 9. Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 10. The Band - Stage Fright 11. Leonard Cohen - Songs Of Love And Hate 12. The Russian Futurists - Let's Get Ready To Crumble Best new indie disc out of Canada for some time. 13. Daniel Lanois - Acadie Better than the stuff he produces for other people. 14. Leonard Cohen - New Skin For The Old Ceremony 15. Tragically Hip - Phantom Power Wierd record. Their last good one. 16. Rheostatics - Melleville Their cover of "Wreck Of The Edmond Fitzgerald" is amazing. 17. Blue Rodeo - Outskirts The best organ solo of all time is on this album. Really. 18. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps 19. Rheostatics - Music Inspired By The Group Of 7 Cool, instrumental disc, inspired by painters of Canadian landscapes. 20. Tragically Hip - Up To Here 21. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush 22. DOA - War On 45 One of the great punk albums of its day. 23. Gordon Lightfoot - Summertime Dream Has "Edmond Fitzgerald" on it. "Sundown" is great too. 24. Joni Mitchell - Court And Spark 24. Men Without Hats - Rhythm Of Youth Yeah, the album with "Safety Dance." The rest is much better. Honest. 25. The Diamonds - America's Favourite Song Stylists Best thing any Canadian band made in the 50s, so you gotta love the title. Has "Li'l Darling" and "The Stroll" on it. 26. Tragically Hip - Road Apples 27. Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People 28. Guess Who - Canned Wheat Actually, the only album of theirs I like all the way through. 29. Laurie Anderson - Big Science The album that gave us "Oh Superman." 30. Spoons - Arias And Symphonies Lost New Wave Classic. They sold out really fast after this. 31. The Payolas - No Stranger To Danger Another Lost New Wave Classic. And another very fast sellout. 32. Skinny Puppy - Bites 33. Neil Young - Trans Young's most under-rated disc. 34. The Pointed Sticks - Perfect Youth Lost punk classic. Never been released on CD. 35. The Pukka Orchestra - The Pukka Orchestra Lost new wave classic. Palle (in Canada, BTW) *** Now Playing: The Church - Heyday ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:41:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: We Have the Technology, On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Tom Clark wrote: > You have every right to back up your VHS tape onto DVD. It's Fair Use. > Giving away duplicates is a copyright violation. I think that's a common idea, but I'm not certain the letter of the law supports it. You'll find that the (untried) countersuit in the original Napster case (before the defendant was bought by one of the plaintiffs and the case settled out of court) that David Boies was prepared to argue that ALL non-commercial copying is protected. > However, as I did with my Elixers&Remedies DVD extravaganza, you can > provide a service for people who own the VHS but do not have the ability > to burn their own DVD's. As long as you don't profit unreasonably by > doing so. And I'm certain here that it doesn't matter how much you profit from providing backup services. > Then again, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. Me, neither. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:56:05 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Top 10s On Jun 24, 2004, at 10:32 AM, Eb wrote: >> A further pare-down dropped out the one album each by Genesis, Eric >> Clapton, Julian Cope, Deep Purple, Danielle Dax, Curve, House of >> Love, Elton John, Mike Oldfield, Monochrome Set, Sisters of Mercy, Al >> Stewart, Ultra Vivid Scene, Fairport convention, Pete Townshend, >> Oasis, Supertramp, and William Orbit. >> > And Ultra Vivid Scene isn't British. Plus, the word "Supertramp" should be stricken from all languages. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:02:13 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: We Have the Technology, On Jun 24, 2004, at 2:41 PM, Capuchin wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Tom Clark wrote: >> You have every right to back up your VHS tape onto DVD. It's Fair >> Use. >> Giving away duplicates is a copyright violation. > > I think that's a common idea, but I'm not certain the letter of the law > supports it. You'll find that the (untried) countersuit in the > original > Napster case (before the defendant was bought by one of the plaintiffs > and > the case settled out of court) that David Boies was prepared to argue > that > ALL non-commercial copying is protected. > That's an interesting point, and one that would have been fun to watch. >> However, as I did with my Elixers&Remedies DVD extravaganza, you can >> provide a service for people who own the VHS but do not have the >> ability >> to burn their own DVD's. As long as you don't profit unreasonably by >> doing so. > > And I'm certain here that it doesn't matter how much you profit from > providing backup services. > In my own case, I don't profit at all. I just ask to be reimbursed for materials. I'm just saying that if one was to profit from it, the profits would come as a form of thanks, i.e., a gratuity. Still not a lawyer, - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #184 ********************************