From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #174 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, June 15 2004 Volume 13 : Number 174 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Thunderclap Newman [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Thunderclap Newman [Tom Clark ] Attention Soccer Moms [Tom Clark ] Re: Thunderclap Newman ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Thunderclap Newman [Christopher Gross ] more news for the Pixies contingent... [Eb ] Re: Thunderclap Newman ["craigie*" ] will Fox News devote a week to his memory? mmm...doubtful :) [Eb ] Re: Thunderclap Newman ["Rex Broome" ] Follow the Leader [] Re: will Fox News devote a week to his memory? mmm...doubtful :) ["Fortis] Spooked pushed back? ["Michael Wells" ] this could be interesting. ["Maximilian Lang" ] What's your blood type? [steve ] Re: Thunderclap Newman ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: What's your blood type? [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:10:08 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Thunderclap Newman I just found this flier from 1969 which appears to confirm that Thunderclap Newman did tour. I see it was 6/6 (32.5p) for both bands, but only 5/6 (27.5p) for the Bonzos. I remember the outrage which greeted the announcement later that year that Fleetwood Mac was going to cost 7/6 (37.5p) because 'Albatross' had topped the charts. Note the interesting typo which assigns 'Something in the Air' to the Who. It was common practice on those fliers only to mention the hit record if it was an unknown group, but they seem to have got their wires crossed here. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Popiscle Thieves PS I saw the Who 5(?) times, and this gig was far and away the best one. Good selections from 'Tommy' plus several 'Live at Leeds' type things (Young Man Blues, Can't Explain, Heaven & Hell etc). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:44:01 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:10 AM, Michael R Godwin wrote: > I just found this flier from 1969 which appears to confirm that > Thunderclap Newman did tour. I see it was 6/6 (32.5p) for both bands, > but > only 5/6 (27.5p) for the Bonzos. I remember the outrage which greeted > the > announcement later that year that Fleetwood Mac was going to cost 7/6 > (37.5p) because 'Albatross' had topped the charts. > Could you explain this pricing model? Is it still used? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:29:37 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Attention Soccer Moms The Minivan Summer Games are upon us! http://www.minivansummergames.com/ - -tc, who has no idea why he's posting this... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:03:50 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman What? Old money? THe Uk went decimal in 1971. Before that we had old money... Now we have 100 pence to a pound, then we had 20 shillings to a pound and 10 pence to a shilling. It starts getting a bit tricky from there... a guinea - what's that? A pound and a shilling? And a crown was 5 shillings... a farthing was half a ha'penny... or was it..? Anyway, old money was shown as pounds/shillings/pence or #/s/d. So 5/6 is 5 shillings and sixpence - that is, 5x5p plus 6x.5p... I make that 28p in new money... erm... Godders? Cheers Matt >From: Tom Clark >Reply-To: Tom Clark >To: Nerdy Groovers >Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:44:01 -0700 > >On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:10 AM, Michael R Godwin wrote: > >>I just found this flier from 1969 which appears to confirm that >>Thunderclap Newman did tour. I see it was 6/6 (32.5p) for both >>bands, but >>only 5/6 (27.5p) for the Bonzos. I remember the outrage which >>greeted the >>announcement later that year that Fleetwood Mac was going to cost >>7/6 >>(37.5p) because 'Albatross' had topped the charts. >> > >Could you explain this pricing model? Is it still used? > >-tc - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:09:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Matt Sewell wrote: > Now we have 100 pence to a pound, then we had 20 shillings to a pound and > 10 pence to a shilling. I thought there were 12 pence in a shilling? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:14:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: more news for the Pixies contingent... PIXIES WRITE AND RECORD FIRST NEW SONG IN THIRTEEN YEARS "Bam Thwok" Will Make Its Debut Tonight via Apple's iTunes OK, all of you Pixies fans, the moment you've been waiting for has arrived - the PIXIES have written and recorded a brand new song, the band's first in thirteen years, and you can get it starting at Midnight tonight exclusively on Apple's popular iTunes Music Store. "Bam Thwok" was penned by Kim Deal and produced and recorded by the Pixies at Stagg Street Studios in Los Angeles this past March. The 2:35 "Bam Thwok," with Deal singing lead, can be downloaded from the iTunes Music Store for 99-cents (http://www.apple.com/itunes/). The music for "Bam Thwok" had its genesis in a chord progression that Deal had been toying with for a while, and the lyrics from an art book she found discarded on a city street a number of years ago while on tour. "From the handwriting, you could tell that this book must have belonged to a little kid," Deal recounts. "This kid had written a short story, a paragraph really, about a party that took place in another universe, about people and monsters that were partying together. That's what provided the inspiration for the lyrics." The song is a musical romp, and features a driving beat, searing guitar, and the whimsical chorus, "Love. Bang. Crash. Wakka, wakka, Bam Thwok." "It's a song about loving everyone," Deal added, "showing good will to everyone." The Pixies - Deal (bass, vocals,) Frank Black (vocals, guitar), Joey Santiago (guitar), David Lovering (drums) - arranged and rehearsed the song at Santiago's home studio, which includes a 15-second carousel-esque organ solo performed and recorded many years ago by Santiago's father-in-law while he was doing missionary work in the Philippines. "That's a great piece of music," added Deal, "and it fits perfectly." "'Bam Thwok' is a really good song," said Frank Black. "Recording it was a nice way for us to break the ice after twelve years. The recording process was very relaxed and it didn't feel like twelve years had passed." As the Pixies are not currently affiliated with a record label, they had the luxury of making their first new song available to fans around the globe at a low price and instantaneously, something that iTunes could easily provide. The Pixies plan to perform "Bam Thwok" at concerts on their current European and upcoming North American tour dates. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:55:48 +0100 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman 10d to a shilling? i think you mean 12... 240 pennies in a pound, 20 shillings... 6d pieces were Tanners, 3d pieces were Threepenny Bits, and had twelve sides...Crowns *were* 5 shillings (expressed 5/-) and we also had half-crowns worth 2/6 (two and six)... 5/6 was 27 and a half new pence.... pocket money!! ahh, nostalgia.... craigie* ...better late than never, until proven otherwise... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Sewell" To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman > What? Old money? > > THe Uk went decimal in 1971. Before that we had old money... > > Now we have 100 pence to a pound, then we had 20 shillings to a pound and > 10 pence to a shilling. It starts getting a bit tricky from there... a > guinea - what's that? A pound and a shilling? And a crown was 5 > shillings... a farthing was half a ha'penny... or was it..? > > Anyway, old money was shown as pounds/shillings/pence or #/s/d. So 5/6 is > 5 shillings and sixpence - that is, 5x5p plus 6x.5p... I make that 28p in > new money... erm... > > Godders? > > Cheers > > Matt > > >From: Tom Clark >Reply-To: Tom Clark > >To: Nerdy Groovers >Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman > >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:44:01 -0700 > >On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:10 AM, > Michael R Godwin wrote: > >>I just found this flier from 1969 which > appears to confirm that >>Thunderclap Newman did tour. I see it was 6/6 > (32.5p) for both >>bands, but >>only 5/6 (27.5p) for the Bonzos. I > remember the outrage which >>greeted the >>announcement later that year > that Fleetwood Mac was going to cost >>7/6 >>(37.5p) because 'Albatross' > had topped the charts. >> > >Could you explain this pricing model? Is it > still used? > >-tc > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:09:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: will Fox News devote a week to his memory? mmm...doubtful :) [I never knew before that the song was six years old when Hopkin recorded it...nice ears, Paul!] Eugene Raskin, a folk singer and architectural scholar who wrote the unusual 1968 hit "Those Were the Days," died on Monday at his home in Manhattan, his son Michael said. He was 94. Mr. Raskin, who performed with his wife, Francesca, as Gene & Francesca, wrote the lyrics and music for "Those Were the Days" in 1962, basing the tune on a Russian folk melody. Paul McCartney heard the Raskins sing the song at a London club in 1964 and remembered it four years later when he was looking for material for the Beatles' newly formed label, Apple Records. Mr. McCartney decided to give the song to Mary Hopkin, a Welsh teenage singer and multiple winner of the British television talent show "Opportunity Knocks," who had been introduced to him by Twiggy, the fashion model. The song, with its catchy refrain  "Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end"  was one of the first four releases by Apple Records. It reached No. 2 on the American charts in the fall of 1968 and held the top position on the British charts for one week, edging out another of Apple's first four releases, "Hey Jude." Mr. Raskin, who was an adjunct professor at Columbia from 1936 to 1976, also wrote three books about architecture: "Architecturally Speaking" (1955), "Sequel to Cities" (1971) and "Architecture and People" (1974). He was a playwright as well. His first play, "One's a Crowd," was a 1949 comedy about an atomic scientist whose experiments leave him with four personalities. "Amata," a romantic fantasy he wrote in 1951, was the second production of the Circle in the Square Theater. Eugene Raskin was born in 1909 in the Bronx and received his undergraduate and master's degrees from Columbia. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:30:01 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman Mike G: >Note the interesting typo which assigns 'Something in the Air' to the Who. >It was common practice on those fliers only to mention the hit record if >it was an unknown group, but they seem to have got their wires crossed >here. Musta been because The Who did "Armenia City in the Sky", I'd guess (which was a TN composition, but if TN themselves ever did it I've not heard it and would love to). Crazy song. Sugar did a nice version. I sorta halfway saw the season premiere of "Six Feet Under" last night, and it featured a snippet of "Something in the Air". For what that's worth, synchronicity-wise. - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:30:01 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman Mike G: >Note the interesting typo which assigns 'Something in the Air' to the Who. >It was common practice on those fliers only to mention the hit record if >it was an unknown group, but they seem to have got their wires crossed >here. Musta been because The Who did "Armenia City in the Sky", I'd guess (which was a TN composition, but if TN themselves ever did it I've not heard it and would love to). Crazy song. Sugar did a nice version. I sorta halfway saw the season premiere of "Six Feet Under" last night, and it featured a snippet of "Something in the Air". For what that's worth, synchronicity-wise. - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:50:00 -0500 From: Subject: Follow the Leader [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Well like I said before, the Euros have been trying for over 10,000 years to pull off what we did in less than 250. And they are still at it: http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/world/8919120.htm gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:36:04 UT From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: will Fox News devote a week to his memory? mmm...doubtful :) On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:09:36 -0700, "Eb" said: > [I never knew before that the song was six years old when Hopkin > recorded it...nice ears, Paul!] > > Eugene Raskin, a folk singer and architectural scholar who wrote the > unusual 1968 hit "Those Were the Days," died on Monday at his home in > Manhattan, his son Michael said. He was 94. Sir Paul had a knack for writing catchy melodies too ;) IN fact, speaking of Mary Hopkin, a couple of years back, for some reason, the follow-up single "Goodbye" (written by Paulie) popped into my head. I actually remembered its melody almost complete, and accurately - it took me awhile but I found an mp3 online somewhere to verify. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:19:57 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Spooked pushed back? Yep Roc's now showing October 5th, or was it then all along? I thought it was in September sometime. Another Halloween tour, perhaps... Michael hoping that "creeped out American girl" makes it on this time around ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:25:57 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: this could be interesting. Max _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:08:44 -0500 From: steve Subject: What's your blood type? Begin forwarded message: > The Japanese believe some interesting things about a person's blood > type, > mainly that it determines much of their personality. Whenever you see a > profile of someone in a magazine, you can be sure that beside their > birthdate, hobbies and favorite foods will be their blood type, since > Japanese readers are always interested in knowing the blood types of > their > favorite people. Basically, type A are straight-laced, serious about > everything, very organized (Felix from The Odd Couple, basically); > type B > are "my pace" (e.g. they go at their own pace, live in their own > world), > quickly get bored with things that don't interest them, and speak their > minds to a fault; type O are very bold, hate to lose and have good > leadership skills; and AB people are often so smart they look strange > to > everyone else. We saw an interesting TV show last night that attempted > to > break down the various personality types according to blood type. In > one > experiment they separated kids by blood type and asked them to move > water > from one aquarium to another one, them filmed the results. The type A > kids > used small spoons to carefully move the water from one tank to the > other; > the type B children tried to come up with a good way to move the > water, but > got bored and gave up in the middle; the type O kids lifted the first > tank > and poured the water into the second tank, not caring how much water > they > spilled on the floor in the process; and the type AB kids got smart and > moved the two tanks around, so that it appeared that they'd moved the > water > when they hadn't actually done so. > > The statistical data the show presented on blood types was interesting, > too. People with blood type O tend to be quite charismatic, and some of > Japan's most popular male heart throbs like SMAP member Takuya Kimura > and > singer/actor Masaharu Fukuyama are type O. People reported that the > blood > type they liked least was B (my own blood type) -- it seems that men > and > women with type B blood speak their minds too easily, and can offend > others, making them difficult to be with. Most of the top Japanese > athletes > including soccer star Nakata and Yankee centerfielder Matsui were type > O, > and the vast majority of Japan's past Prime Ministers were also of this > blood type. However, 60% of the sumo wrestlers to reach the highest > rank of > Yokozuna (Grand Champion) were of blood type A -- it seems it takes a > meticulous nature to work your way up the top rank in Japan's > traditional > sport. Type B people may be the least popular with people of other > blood > types, but we have the highest representation at Tokyo University, > Japan's > top-ranked school, perhaps because we're creative and don't know what > can't > be done. The blood type couplings with the highest chance of divorce > are > two people with type A blood; couples where both have type B, or one > has B > and the other has O, are supposedly the happiest. Type A people are > good at > saving money for a rainy day; type B people waste their money on things > they don't need (like me). For the record, Japanese are usually amazed > that > many Americans don't know their own blood type. In Japan, the > interplay of > blood types is always at work in any group. - - Steve __________ Misadvised by a frustrated and panic-stricken attorney general, a president of the United States has just assumed what amounts to dictatorial power to jail or execute aliens. - William Safire ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:21:57 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman Hmm... yes, I thought my knowledge of old money was somewhat suspect... I do have an excuse though - I was born after decimalisation. I measure in centimetres and wouldn't know Fareinheit (or how to spell it for that matter) if it jumped up and bit me on the leg! Oh, and welcome to Craigie*, who's emerged from lurkerdom! Cheers Matt >From: "craigie*" >Reply-To: "craigie*" >To: >Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:55:48 +0100 > >10d to a shilling? i think you mean 12... > >240 pennies in a pound, 20 shillings... > >6d pieces were Tanners, 3d pieces were Threepenny Bits, and had twelve >sides...Crowns *were* 5 shillings (expressed 5/-) and we also had >half-crowns worth 2/6 (two and six)... > >5/6 was 27 and a half new pence.... pocket money!! > >ahh, nostalgia.... > >craigie* > >...better late than never, until proven otherwise... >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Matt Sewell" >To: >Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:03 PM >Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman > > > > What? Old money? > > > > THe Uk went decimal in 1971. Before that we had old money... > > > > Now we have 100 pence to a pound, then we had 20 shillings to a pound and > > 10 pence to a shilling. It starts getting a bit tricky from there... a > > guinea - what's that? A pound and a shilling? And a crown was 5 > > shillings... a farthing was half a ha'penny... or was it..? > > > > Anyway, old money was shown as pounds/shillings/pence or #/s/d. So 5/6 is > > 5 shillings and sixpence - that is, 5x5p plus 6x.5p... I make that 28p in > > new money... erm... > > > > Godders? > > > > Cheers > > > > Matt > > > > >From: Tom Clark >Reply-To: Tom Clark > > >To: Nerdy Groovers >Subject: Re: Thunderclap Newman > > >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:44:01 -0700 > >On Jun 14, 2004, at 5:10 AM, > > Michael R Godwin wrote: > >>I just found this flier from 1969 which > > appears to confirm that >>Thunderclap Newman did tour. I see it was 6/6 > > (32.5p) for both >>bands, but >>only 5/6 (27.5p) for the Bonzos. I > > remember the outrage which >>greeted the >>announcement later that year > > that Fleetwood Mac was going to cost >>7/6 >>(37.5p) because 'Albatross' > > had topped the charts. >> > >Could you explain this pricing model? Is it > > still used? > >-tc > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:34:10 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: What's your blood type? On Jun 14, 2004, at 7:08 PM, steve wrote: > Begin > forwarded message: > > >> The Japanese believe some interesting things about a person's blood >> type, >> mainly that it determines much of their personality. Replace "blood type" with "astrological sign" or "eye color" or "fingerprint" and you have the same story. - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #174 ********************************