From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #166 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, June 5 2004 Volume 13 : Number 166 Today's Subjects: ----------------- clips ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: CDDB [James Dignan ] Re: CDDB again [James Dignan ] Re: The last surviving member of the Tenspeed and Brownshoe fanclub* [Jam] Re: cult shows [James Dignan ] Re: Cult TV & Music (0% Ian Astbury content) [Capuchin ] Re: Cult TV & Music (0% Ian Astbury content) ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Cult TV etc. ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: reap [John Barrington Jones ] Re: reap [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:49:00 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: clips A couple of funny clips on my friend Gene's site. I did not give him the one with the rocker but watched it repeatedly with his cousin years ago. I think the comedian is priceless. Gimmie gimmie gimmie, Max _________________________________________________________________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 12:22:37 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: CDDB >Lately I've noticed yet another annoying thing about CDDB, or about the >idiots who seem to have entered so much of the data therein. Some of >these folks seem to have used a program or script to capitalize every word >in titles and artist names, so they don't have to bother with the shift >key themselves. That's just a minor problem (though I do think some >words, like the "of" in Can of Bees, should not be capitalized). But the >really annoying part is that these same people have apparently set their >software to capitalize the letter combination "dj" ... which is fine for >DJ Spooky and DJ Shadow, but wrecks havoc with CDs in languages where "dj" >commonly occurs in words, creating titles like "Desilusao Dum AmDJer" and >names like "Dilon DJinDJi." What is wrong with these people? Are they >really so desperate to be the first to submit a CD that they can't even >spend two seconds proofreading? I suspect that that is in CDDB's own software. I've sent things in to CDDB then tried later to access that information from another computer for someone else's copy of the same disc and...all capitalised. DJames - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 12:25:26 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: CDDB again >I think that, so long as they back up the database somehow, so >catastrophic and/or malicious deletions can be recovered, they ought to >allow public *deletions* of data as well as submissions. So many albums >have multiple entries (not sure how that works) even when they don't have >multiple issues, and of course there are the annoying error-ridden >entries... > >If the point of allowing public to enter items is to distribute an >otherwise unmanageable workload and encourage participation and public >"ownership," then allowing public editing/deletion would only further >that, as well as (one hopes) eventually allowing the good data to drive >out the bad. Right now, for instance, it's hard to preview which, when >multiple selections come up, is the best option. the multiple selections, I am sure, are often because one person typed in data very badly, then a second person corrected it and sent in the new info, hoping that the old would get overwritten. When multiple selections come up, I cross my fingers that they are listed in chronological order of addition to the database and always plump for the last choice offered. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 12:29:17 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: The last surviving member of the Tenspeed and Brownshoe fanclub* > > (* and also the Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) fan club, for that matter) > >You know they remade that, with Bob Mortimer and Vic Reeves in the title >roles? It was as good as, if not better than, the original. oh yes. Sadly only the first series of the remake was shown here in NZ. Good - emphasising the comedy element, but Mike Pratt must be spinning in his grave about how much of a wimp they made Randall. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 12:44:35 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: cult shows >Seems like a fundamental point of contention is whether it must be >"cool" to like a cult show or not. Which determines the fate of Jeme's >syndicated gameshows, "shows which your mom likes," Bob Vila, whatever. depends on the mum, I suppose. Then again, you could always add reference to a certain round-balled football code and severely cross threads... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Cult TV & Music (0% Ian Astbury content) On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Rex Broome wrote: > Miles: > >And no one knows Dobie Gillis? > > For me it was what Donald Rumsfeld might call a "known unknown"... one > of those shows you knew about, but wasn't syndicated in my area (see > also: Ozzie and Harriet, Dick Van Dyke Show). Some things slip through > the cracks. I was unaware of an aparently ubiquitous show called > "Family Affair" until I went to college, and man... what the hell was > that all about? Sometimes it's cool to sit back and say, dude, I may be > stuck with lots of I Dream of Genie on my mental hard drive, but at > least I have the luxury of never really truly having to know who or what > Mrs. Beasley was (although I fear I'm about to be told definitively... a > doll or a pet or something, right?) Right... we didn't ever have Leave It To Beaver, so while there were cultural references all over the place, the show itself was strictly a "visiting out-of-state cousins" event. As with all those shows, I could never really understand the appeal of the ones we didn't have and totally didn't understand why people didn't just love the ones we did have. The few that we had only briefly (My Three Sons comes to mind) never really did much for me, but I remember watching lots of The Danny Thomas Show, of all things, when I was quite young and still thinking the girl (daughter? niece?) was exceptionally hot. We got Dobie Gillis quite late and I think I appreciated it more because of that. I can't imagine what junior high would have been like without Dick Van Dyke, though. Phew, I'm glad I don't watch TV anymore. I wouldn't be able to keep up. Downloading Six Feet Under and Adult Swim episodes as I type, J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:23:17 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. Rex Broome wrote: > > But hell, we had five channels, so I guess we would've watched anything. Until I was about 7, we had two channels. We had an old 405-line B&W TV, which wouldn't pick up the 625-line only BBC2. I think my sister's hissy fits about not being able watch "The Waltons" decided my parents to get a new TV. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:43:17 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Cult TV & Music (0% Ian Astbury content) On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:42:35 -0700, "Rex Broome" said: > Tom C: > >How else could you then spew numbers like this: > >607 Artists / 834 Albums / 9961 Tracks / 27.9 Days / 50.12 GB > > Yeah, but how many genres you got? Ha. The "genre" thing is *so* ridiculous. Actually, for a giggle (and of course if you like the band) go to Oranger's website and download the mp3s: they're categorized in genres like "game," "polka," etc. (they're not). Some system somewhere, evidently, defaults genre to "blues" - since that's appeared as genre with quite a number of acts that not even the most spiflicated buffon could call "blues." I'm Sebastian Cabot! - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:46:42 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. - -- "Stewart C. Russell" is rumored to have mumbled on Freitag, 4. Juni 2004 21:23 Uhr -0400 regarding Re: Cult TV etc.: > Rex Broome wrote: >> >> But hell, we had five channels, so I guess we would've watched anything. > > Until I was about 7, we had two channels. We had an old 405-line B&W TV, > which wouldn't pick up the 625-line only BBC2. Hmm, 405 lines? What system was that? The only one I'm familiar with besides PAL and NTSC is SECAM, but that's not it, is it? My parents didn't have a TV set at all, but my grandparents, who lived in the same house, did. Until I was about 14 there were only three channels, because only in 1982 or so private television was allowed. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:27:02 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > Hmm, 405 lines? What system was that? UK B&W standard from 1936 to late 1960s, finally phased out in 1985. I think it was VHF, rather than UHF. You still very occasionally see the old X-style aerials on a roof. Wonderfully geeky website about all this: Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:28:39 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) Tom Clark wrote: > > How else could you then spew numbers like this: > 607 Artists / 834 Albums / 9961 Tracks / 27.9 Days / 50.12 GB So who needs a database? $ ./mp3stats /archive/mp3 417 Artists / 336 Albums / 4883 Tracks / 11.3 Days / 20.14 GB I guess I've got more folk compilations than is good for me. - --------------------------------------- #!/usr/bin/perl -w # mp3stats - show info on mp3s in directories given as arguments # created by scruss on 02004/06/05 use strict; use File::Find; use MP3::Info; my @files; my %artists; my %albums; my $track_count = 0; my $total_length = 0; my $total_size = 0; find( \&wanted, @ARGV ); do_stats_on_files( @files ); printf( "%d Artists / %d Albums / %d Tracks / %.1f Days / %.2f GB\n", scalar( keys(%artists) ), scalar( keys(%albums) ), $track_count, $total_length / ( 60 * 60 * 24 ), $total_size / ( 1024**3 ) ); exit; sub wanted { push @files, $File::Find::name if ( -f && /mp3$/i ); } sub do_stats_on_files { foreach (@_) { my $file_tag = get_mp3tag($_); next unless ($file_tag); my $file_info = get_mp3info($_); next unless ($file_info); $artists{ $file_tag->{ARTIST} }++; $albums{ $file_tag->{ALBUM} }++; $track_count++; $total_length += $file_info->{SECS}; $total_size += $file_info->{SIZE}; } } ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:58:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap Ronnie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: reap On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Eb wrote: > Ronnie "We begin mourning in five minutes." =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 17:09:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap John Barrington Jones wrote: > Eb wrote: > > Ronnie > > "We begin mourning in five minutes." The President is talking to us From the pits of hell I know that it's not Nice, but I'm feeling rather swell His brain is still haning upside down ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin "I'm going to keep playing music until somebody shoots me." -- Scott McCaughey "It would not now surprise me in the least if, one night on TV, right there during The Memo, [Bill] O'Reilly declared himself to be the Grand Duchess Anastasia." -- Charles Pierce on MSNBC.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #166 ********************************