From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #165 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 4 2004 Volume 13 : Number 165 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: squeaking of CDDB ["Fortissimo" ] Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) ["Fortissimo" ] What (the hell) is in unnamed? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Cult TV etc. [Eb ] Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) [steve ] RE: various ["David Stovall" ] Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Cult TV etc. [Eb ] Hot new band: Robyn Hitchcock 'n' His Egyptians, The ["Rex Broome" ] Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) ["Rex Broome" ] Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) [Tom Clark ] Re: Michael Wells, cult TV [Tom Clark ] Re: Cult TV etc. [Capuchin ] Re: Cult TV etc. [Capuchin ] Emergency Seanad session [Capuchin ] Re: Cult TV etc. ["Rex Broome" ] Cult TV & Music (0% Ian Astbury content) ["Rex Broome" Subject: Re: squeaking of CDDB On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:02:39 -0400, "Stewart C. Russell" said: > Fortissimo wrote: > > > > I think that, so long as they back up the database somehow, so > > catastrophic and/or malicious deletions can be recovered, they ought to > > allow public *deletions* of data as well as submissions. > > freedb.org has file versioning. Newer, better versions tend to drive out > old ones. I'd strongly recommend it over Gracenote. Definitely - but not all software allows freedb.org as an option. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:20:25 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 10:59:48 -0700, "Eb" said: > And I just don't get why CDDB/Gracenote is so important to some people. > I've used it a few times, but only because I was hoping to find titles > for some hidden bonus tracks. Try manually inputting the info for 6,000 CDs into a database - I think the answer will then be self-evident. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:32:25 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) >> And I just don't get why CDDB/Gracenote is so important to some >> people. >> I've used it a few times, but only because I was hoping to find titles >> for some hidden bonus tracks. > > Try manually inputting the info for 6,000 CDs into a database - I think > the answer will then be self-evident. And how many people in the world own 6,000 CDs...AND want to input the track listings into a database? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:35:38 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: What (the hell) is in unnamed? James: >>sounds like the problem I had trying to convince someone about the >>name of one of my paintings: "Untitled". It wasn't an untitled >>painting. It's just that its name was "Untitled". Heh. Like the Byrds album, but without the parenthesis. Artists can complicate this themselves. Now, I live Throwing Muses as much as... well, okay, probably way more than... anyone. But the spines and covers of their very first and very last records just say "Throwing Muses". And yet... they insist that the first one, while not called "Untitled", is in fact untitled, and the latter one is in fact entitled "Throwing Muses". Okay. So I guess for number one I should literally not enter any information in the "title" field. Fine. But then how do I know what The Velvet Underground was thinking on their third album, etc etc. etc.? And howzabout the Gene Clark album that only isn't entitled "White Light" due to a printing error? For that matter, Robyn was generally known to "ampersand" with the Egyptians, and never did once "and" with them, but for one record he "'n'"'ed with them. Mary-Chapin Carpenter had her Mary and Chapin surgically separated mid-career. Which is nothing compared to what happened to Wayne County, I suppose. And what in the name of God is up with the Costello show, or the record that Tin Machine put out which is the same one that David Bowie later released under his own name? Wherefore Neil (not Neil Young) and the Shocking Pinks? Anyways, I'm thinking of titling the painting that I finished at 5AM this morning "I Don't Care What It Looks Like to You, It's So Not the Portal to Hell Again". Guess what it looks like! Jeff D: >>I never really think of the phrase >>all that literally anymore than I would think that all >>young young professionals working in a city are inherently >>Yuppies. Point of order: were YUPpies actually "Young Urban Professionals" as you usually hear these days, or, as I could swear the term was introduced to me way back when, "Young Upwardly-Mobile Professionals"? Frankly, although it really seems like it should be rendered "yumpies", the latter version fits the stereotype a bit more closely. - -Rex, tired (see above, re: painting until 5AM) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:33:38 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #163 On Jun 4, 2004, at 9:28 AM, Brian Hoare wrote: > BTW Yes is now filed with Caravan and Genesis. Genesis was once my favorite band, in between Jefferson Airplane and XTC, but I don't think they've aged as well as Caravan or Yes, or any number of other prog bands. The fault, I'm sure, lies with Tony Banks. > Did you note the generous 15 second contemplation time between the > TFTO tracks? Only got them Tuesday, along with Nilsson's Personal Best and Nilsson Sings Newman. - - Steve __________ The homosexual activist movement is now closer than it has ever been to administering a devastating and potentially fatal blow to the traditional family.' - James Dobson, Focus on the Family ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:45:25 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. > 19. Dark Shadows > > I do way to much work maintaining the master tapes of this show to not > shudder to see the title. Which doesn't make it not a cult show. > Just irritating. I've tried to "get" this show a couple of times when it turns up in reruns, and I just...don't. I haven't seen enough to really have a firm opinion, but it just seemed like a normal, stuffy Brit soap opera...but, like, come on, there's a VAMPIRE here! DO SOMETHING VAMPIREY ALREADY! ;) > 14. Beauty and the Beast > > O... kay... Kind of warm/fuzzy for this list. That suggests that > quirky comedies are up for inclusion here Beauty & the Beast was a quirky comedy? (Another show which I doubt I've seen a complete episode of....) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:47:44 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) >> I also once caught a record clerk filing Jethro Tull under 'T'. >> >> -tc Very common, back in the day. Along with Heep, Uriah and Hoople, Mott T. All in the male vocalist section, with big plastic dividers. - - Steve __________ sue gad cockcrow crew burmese chamomile planoconcave satin ashamed acquaint conducive chigger truancy dry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:07:31 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Tarkus? They hardly know us! Mixmaster J to the FF: >>But, of course, all the >>band did was *repeat* those four notes a few times before the vocal >>kicked in, and (you can see where this is going) so I just duplicated the >>second repetition (the first clean one) and put it at the beginning: >>voila, instant clean opening. Oh, that reminds me, when I mastered my dad's band's LP's for CD -- and I preemptively note that this was both for a Christmas gift to him *and* eventually a for-profit-and-charity venture with now 70 or 80 copies in print-- I corrected a twenty-some-year-old vocal flub... one voice in the four-part harmony sang "I" when the other three sang "you". Actually, the way it originally played, the flub was in a section of four-part unison, after which the same chorus was repeated as a harmony. Now the harmony starts halfway through the first read of the chorus. It actually sounds like a nifty arrangement trick. Haven't had anyone complain/notice yet, but I also don't know if anyone on the Eno list has heard it yet... >>So, uh, what do I win? The Grammy for Best Tolkien-Inspired Mashup, Reissue, goes to... you! Eb: >>And I just don't get why CDDB/Gracenote is so important to some people. Because I'm close enough to carpal tunnel syndrome as it is... with the CDDB I just pop in a disc, get all of the totally wrong and misidentified track listings, import them, and then I'm off to use all the keystrokes I've saved to type bitchy dispatches about it to internet mailing lists. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:22:26 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: What (the hell) is in unnamed? On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:35:38 -0700, "Rex.Broome" said: > Artists can complicate this themselves. Now, I live Throwing Muses as > much as... well, okay, probably way more than... anyone. But the spines > and covers of their very first and very last records just say "Throwing > Muses". And yet... they insist that the first one, while not called > "Untitled", is in fact untitled, and the latter one is in fact entitled > "Throwing Muses". Okay. So I guess for number one I should literally > not enter any information in the "title" field. Fine. But then how do I > know what The Velvet Underground was thinking on their third album, etc > etc. etc.? And howzabout the Gene Clark album that only isn't entitled > "White Light" due to a printing error? I try to separate graphic design from spelling. I mean, okay, the Minutemen lowercased their name in their designs, most the time - but I'm not sure as they'd insist on it (and I'm not sure I'd follow them if they did). But the inconsistency thing...is it "Captain Beefheart and his" or "and the" Magic Band? And is "Captain Beefheart" to be read as a title with a surname (under B) or a sort of superhero sobriquet (like "Captain America," say) & therefore under C? The origin story refers to Captain Beefheart and the Grunt People; I go with C. But c'mon: how much insider scoop do you need just to file a CD? Oh, and I wouldn't recommend this, but...self-titled albums should alphabetize together, shouldn't they? Really, they have effective *no* title - in my own weird little world, I abbreviate self-titled albums simply [s/t] and be done with it. > Anyways, I'm thinking of titling the painting that I finished at 5AM this > morning "I Don't Care What It Looks Like to You, It's So Not the Portal > to Hell Again". Guess what it looks like! Does it look like any of these? http://www.entrances2hell.co.uk/ (I remember "Young Upwardly-mobile" as well...) - --I Don't Care What It Looks Like to You, I'm So Not Working on Friday Afternoon... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:28:15 -0700 From: "David Stovall" Subject: RE: various >From: "Rex.Broome" >Subject: Next Year's Modle > >Jeffrey: >>>Alright, so I got curious, and A/B'd the two editions of "Everything >>>Merges with the Night." In fact, I created an edited version that >>>restores the deleted two bars. > >Fine albeit terrifying work. > >New thread: geekiest thing of this nature (self-editing) >you've ever done. This may be stretching the boundaries of "self-editing" - but it's still pretty geeky. I'm a fairly active live concert taper. One of my favorite artists, ex-Zappa stunt guitarist Mike Keneally actively encourages taping and trading of his shows, and is on great terms with his fanatical followers. At a Taylor guitar clinic he did in Cincinnati a few years ago, I was taping when he duffed a verse in one song, followed the chord progression through for a couple extra bars, and started the verse again when it came around. After the song, he jokingly pleaded, "Tapers, please edit!" (To which his bassist Bryan Beller chuckled, "You KNOW they never will when you say that.") When I edited the recording for CD, I left the complete performance as-is, but added a bonus track, which was the song in question with the duffed verse and extra vamp gone, the transition seamlessly smoothed over, AND Bryan's comment edited to, "You KNOW they_will when you say that." I got at least a couple chuckles out of other traders when they heard it. Does it also make it geekier that (as is my custom) I sent copies to Keneally and Beller as well? >> (what the hell was "The Many loves of Dobie Gillis"? Or "Super >> Chicken"?) > >Super Chicken (b)rawked. It was a cartoon where the main character was >convince he gained super power when he put on his chicken suit, when (in >fact) he didn't. It was full of set-piece terrible puns between Super >Chicken and his sidekick. I loved Super Chicken. Was it produced by any of the same people who did the Rocky & Bullwinkle toons? (Or just the others I used to see on the same syndicated shows - Tom Slick, George of the Jungle, Underdog, etc.,... and is my brain just making up the idea that there was a similar toon called Superfly?) I seem to remember there being a similarly large number of in-jokes and references that were certainly not aimed at the grade-school-aged audience, starting right from Super Chicken's "civilian" name of Henry Cabot Henhouse III.... da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:31:32 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:32:25 -0700, "Eb" said: > >> And I just don't get why CDDB/Gracenote is so important to some > >> people. > >> I've used it a few times, but only because I was hoping to find titles > >> for some hidden bonus tracks. > > > > Try manually inputting the info for 6,000 CDs into a database - I think > > the answer will then be self-evident. > > And how many people in the world own 6,000 CDs...AND want to input the > track listings into a database? Well, I know at least 3 or 4...have heard of a few more. I bet there are a few such folks here...Anyway: even a couple hundred CD collection is a *lot* of typing! And libraries and radio stations might find it useful as well. Fact is, I'd never even *think* about doing it if access to online databases didn't massively simplify it. Even the erroneous ones require only a bit of typing to correct - much less than inputting teh whole thing manually. SO it's more a case of frustration arising from not meeting a claim than thinking it's truly the most required thing ever. BUt it is interesting: whenever I chance to put on a cassette these days, I'm all like, damn, which track is this? It's hard to tell... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Miracles are like meatballs, because nobody can exactly agree :: what they are made of, where they come from, or how often :: they should appear. :: --Lemony Snicket ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:40:37 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. Eb: >Beauty & the Beast was a quirky comedy? (Another show which I doubt >I've seen a complete episode of....) Nah, sorry, went off on a tangent. It was just... sorta kind-hearted or at least hearts-and-flowers romance-y. Most of the other shows on the list had, at least for their time, some kind of "edginess", so this one seemed a little incongruous. I mean, it had Linda Hamilton, and... I forget. Guys who lived in sewers, but *nice* guys who lived in sewers. My mom liked it. Can't be too culty if my mom liked it. Maybe if Jill liked it, I'd reconsider! - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:52:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. > Nah, sorry, went off on a tangent. It was just... sorta kind-hearted > or at least hearts-and-flowers romance-y. Most of the other shows on > the list had, at least for their time, some kind of "edginess", so > this one seemed a little incongruous. I mean, it had Linda Hamilton, > and... I forget. Guys who lived in sewers, but *nice* guys who lived > in sewers. My mom liked it. Can't be too culty if my mom liked it. > Maybe if Jill liked it, I'd reconsider! Seems like a fundamental point of contention is whether it must be "cool" to like a cult show or not. Which determines the fate of Jeme's syndicated gameshows, "shows which your mom likes," Bob Vila, whatever. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:02:48 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Hot new band: Robyn Hitchcock 'n' His Egyptians, The Jeffrey: >I try to separate graphic design from spelling. I mean, okay, the >Minutemen lowercased their name in their designs, most the time - but I'm >not sure as they'd insist on it (and I'm not sure I'd follow them if they >did). Purty sure about that one, even moreso with fIREHOSE. It's fine to scoff, but it was original enough at the time that I allow it. I drew the line after that dog. (oddly also known mIKE wATT cohorts... hmmm...) but well before Matchbox 20 "offically" changed its name to matchbox twenty (or something) because, seriously, fuck that. >>But the inconsistency thing...is it "Captain Beefheart and his" or >"and the" Magic Band? And is "Captain Beefheart" to be read as a title >with a surname (under B) or a sort of superhero sobriquet (like "Captain >America," say) & therefore under C? The origin story refers to Captain >Beefheart and the Grunt People; I go with C. But c'mon: how much insider >scoop do you need just to file a CD? Okay, serously, there is a way to solve two problems at once, database-wise: two artist columns, mutually- and cross-searchable. Not sure how you'd title them, but they would function like this, on a track by track basis: FIGURE A: Backing band ID. Neil Young|and Crazy Horse|Raggledy Glory|Fuckin' Shit Up FIGURE B: Guest appearance on individual track ID. R.E.M.|featuring KRS-One|Out of Time|Radio Song (AKA Sorry I Reminded You That This Ever Happened) FIGURE C: Multi-artist compilation breakdown. Various Artists|Gillian Welch|Old Shit: A Tribute to Old Shit|Some Old Song FIGURE D: Artist AKA ID. Dykes of the Stratocasters|XTC|Vanishing Grrrl|Psonic Psoriasis Of course you'd still be screwed over by stuff like: Various Artists|Nigel and the Crosses|Shit, no more columns to tell you it's really Robyn and Pete Buck. Oh well. - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:13:41 -0400 From: fingerpuppets Subject: if you know time just noticed that the performance of "if you know time" for 2002's wfmu session has been included on the live music cd premium from wfmu's last fundraiser . you can still get it for a pledge of $100 or more. eventually, presumably, as with other such cds used for pledgebait, i suspect the cd will also show up at wfmu's store. woj p.s. urls-a-go-go! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:26:32 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) Eb, Jeffrey: >> And how many people in the world own 6,000 CDs...AND want to input the >> track listings into a database? > >Well, I know at least 3 or 4...have heard of a few more. I bet there are >a few such folks here... Well, I know there are some here who have more records than me, and have them database'd down to all of the individual track names... too rich for my blood, CDDB or not! - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:51:50 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Michael Wells, cult TV I hope it's not too late to thank Michael Wells for his visit to Music City and his kinds words about meeting me. I felt like I wasn't on top of my bonhommerie game, being in the middle of a move and thus tired and distracted, but I certainly enjoyed Mr. Wells' company, and am glad that he had what appears to be an equally good time. If only the scary storm fronts then moving through Kentucky and Indiana hadn't chased him out of town early, thus cancelling the record shopping rounds. I look forward to him making a return visit. The move is also why I haven't returned the compliment until now, nor posted in a while -- we're busy every spare minute moving stuff, the old phone line was out for four of its last five days of existence, all the computers are still at the old place which now has no phone line whatsoever, and to connect at the new place I have to remember to bring along my laptop. So things are just nuts. Anyway: At 12:40 PM 6/4/2004 -0700, Rex Broome wrote: >Eb: >>Beauty & the Beast was a quirky comedy? (Another show which I doubt >>I've seen a complete episode of....) > >Nah, sorry, went off on a tangent. It was just... sorta kind-hearted or at >least hearts-and-flowers romance-y. Most of the other shows on the list >had, at least for their time, some kind of "edginess", so this one seemed a >little incongruous. I mean, it had Linda Hamilton, and... I forget. Guys >who lived in sewers, but *nice* guys who lived in sewers. My mom liked it. >Can't be too culty if my mom liked it. Maybe if Jill liked it, I'd reconsider! Despite the fact that Beauty and the Beast *has* attracted a girly-girl romance-novel-like following ("Oh, poetic cat-man of the sewer army, take me now!"), it was way, way better than that, particularly during its first season. If I'd only known that George R.R. Martin was involved with the stories and scripts, I would have signed on immediately rather than several episodes into its run. It's one of those things, like with the Cure and the Smiths/Morrissey, where you have to ignore the fans and enjoy the damn show anyway. And having seen a Beauty and the Beast fan site or two, I wouldn't underestimate how scarily obsessive the hearts and flowers set can get. I'd say this following meets almost any definition of "cult," at least when it applies to the fans of TV shows. And no one knows Dobie Gillis? My cousin and I discovered it while at college in the mid-'80s, on late-night local TV reruns. We got hooked for a while. On the one hand, the show has a super-clean Leave It To Beaver-like family sitcom feel, except it's focused on high-school-aged kids; on the other hand, it has proto-beatnik Maynard G. Krebs (Bob Denver in his finest role) and a bent toward strangely written dialogue and surreal plot developments. This juxtaposition leads to some truly fine moments of cognitive dissonance. I mean, if Melissa hadn't been watching it too, I'd think I hallucinated the episode where a giant chicken attacks Dobie's dad's store. It's also worth noting that Dobie's most frequent love interest bore the almost Austen-like moniker of Thalia Menninger, and early episodes of the series also featured Warren Beatty, already accurately typecast as a teen Lothario. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:35:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: pedantry (both millennia and band names) On Jun 4, 2004, at 1:26 PM, Rex Broome wrote: > Well, I know there are some here who have more records than me, and > have them database'd down to all of the individual track names... too > rich for my blood, CDDB or not! > How else could you then spew numbers like this: 607 Artists / 834 Albums / 9961 Tracks / 27.9 Days / 50.12 GB - -c,t ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:56:55 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Michael Wells, cult TV On Jun 4, 2004, at 1:51 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > And no one knows Dobie Gillis? > > It's also worth noting that Dobie's most frequent love interest bore > the almost Austen-like moniker of Thalia Menninger, Played by the outstanding Tuesday Weld! > and early episodes of the series also featured Warren Beatty, already > accurately typecast as a teen Lothario. > Plus, the character of Zelda was played by Sheila Kuehl, who is now a California State Senator. And, was the first openly gay member of the California legislature. Now you know. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:49:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Eb wrote: > Which determines the fate of Jeme's syndicated gameshows, TPIR is on CB fuckin' S and don't you forget it, buster. Television City, USA, baby! J "A freaky hybrid of eddie tews and Kacey Jane" . - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:51:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Rex Broome wrote: > I mean, it had Linda Hamilton, and... I forget. Guys who lived in > sewers, but *nice* guys who lived in sewers. How can you miss this one? Big guy, disfiguring make-up, deep voice. This role ALWAYS goes to Ron Perlman. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Emergency Seanad session Because, you know James Joyce would NEVER have published his work if he couldn't guarantee that his grandson could be a dick about it three-quarters of a century later. 14 years is quite generous, really. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:21:26 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Re: Cult TV etc. Jeme: >How can you miss this one? Big guy, disfiguring make-up, deep voice. > >This role ALWAYS goes to Ron Perlman. Actually, I remembered Perlman... I was just reaching to remember something else "edgy" about the show. He was disfigured, but... once again, nice. It should be pointed out to James that while his research on US Cult TV is impressive... Gilligan's Island is not forgotten in the least. It's right up there with its production company sibling The Brady Bunch in the pantheon of abysmal TV that was so widely syndicated for years after its run that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in America who hasn't been exposed to it. I think the only reason it hasn't joined every other such show of its vintage in being remade as a big bad Hollywood film is that the actor who played its title character is still alive, looks about the same, and still shows up in character in other venues from time to time. But gah, it were awful. But hell, we had five channels, so I guess we would've watched anything. - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:42:35 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Cult TV & Music (0% Ian Astbury content) Tom C: >How else could you then spew numbers like this: >607 Artists / 834 Albums / 9961 Tracks / 27.9 Days / 50.12 GB Yeah, but how many genres you got? Actually, as of now I only have seven, but I really don't have that many records identified by the CDDB yet... the stuff I input by hand was not genre-labeled, so I imagine that'll go up. I was just looking at a friend's iTunes last night... she had about 700-odd albums in there and would in most ways be thought to have slightly more conventional musical tastes than me, but lo and behold she scored about four times as many "genres" as me. Shoulda looked to see what they were, but... didn't. It should be noted that one of my hand-entered, non-genre-specified tracks is "The Prisoner (Main Theme"), which would surely net me another genre in the form of "Cult TV Sountrack". Miles: >And no one knows Dobie Gillis? For me it was what Donald Rumsfeld might call a "known unknown"... one of those shows you knew about, but wasn't syndicated in my area (see also: Ozzie and Harriet, Dick Van Dyke Show). Some things slip through the cracks. I was unaware of an aparently ubiquitous show called "Family Affair" until I went to college, and man... what the hell was that all about? Sometimes it's cool to sit back and say, dude, I may be stuck with lots of I Dream of Genie on my mental hard drive, but at least I have the luxury of never really truly having to know who or what Mrs. Beasley was (although I fear I'm about to be told definitively... a doll or a pet or something, right?) - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #165 ********************************