From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #152 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, May 25 2004 Volume 13 : Number 152 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #151 [Michael R Godwin ] Into the white... ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 [The Great Quail ] tinfoil fame! ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 [Capuchin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 [Christopher Gross ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 [Christopher Gross ] Martin Bell/New Zealand/IDG is out of the office. [Martin Bell ] Jewels and binoculars hang from the head of a perversion of nature ["Rex ] Re: Roy Harper ["Stewart C. Russell" ] on mules, and the sterility thereof ["Stewart C. Russell" ] I gotta have more cowbell! ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #151 > Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 09:48:57 -0400 > From: "Roberta Cowan" > Subject: attention Nick Drake fans! > From NME: > http://www.nme.com/features/story.htm?ID=108517 > 'Made To Love Magic', an album of rarities, remixes and an un- > released song 'Tow The Line', the last song Nick Drake committed to > tape prior to his early death in 1974. An article I read picked this up as an obvious misprint - and indeed George Orwell cites this specific spelling mistake as a particularly bad example of muddled thinking. Drake must have intended 'Toe the line', mustn't he? Or is it genuinely a yo-ho-ho sailing song? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:26:00 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Into the white... Dolph: >>and given that my natural pallor makes notebook paper put on sunscreen >>it should be plausible. Ingenious! This may take the "pallor-related self-deprecation" cake from the previous title-holder, relayed to me by a noted ex-feg years ago: "Ghosts call me honky". Stewart: >>I wonder why I have such difficulty with the middle A in Canada? It's the "n" that throws me, ever since I moved next door to an area in So Cal called "La Canada Flintridge". That'd be pronounced, for those of you living in areas with less Spanish names... "lah kenyahda flintridge". But then again, I grew up next to the Canaan Valley, which was universally pronunced "kinane valley", so I'm all screwed up... Jason, continuing the pronunciatuion thing> >>I also learned that RZA is not pronounced "R-Z-A," but "rizzah." I learned that around the time of Ghost Dog, another Jarmusch film which RZA scored. The one after the one scored by Neil Young. Now if that coulda been the same film... damn, there's a rap/rock collaboration to rival Ice T/Hasselhoff any day. Kinda makes me want to throw some slow evil drum loops behind the "Dead Man" score and see what happens. Nick Drake rareties, eh? Maybe that and a Roy Harper pickup would go nicely together. I heard Harper do a live radio set a few years back... he had some kinda super-processed acoustic guitar that made for difficult listening and that was a major obstacle to me figuring out whether or not, or in what manner, he was "legendary". Seems like Terry Callier resurfaced in the same way on the same station around the same time, and he was an easier sell. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:16:15 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 Jeme writes, > Seriously? As I recall it, Quail unsubbed right after pulling this gambit > a few times and getting called on it by people other then me. If I had > eddie's keen sense of archives, I would pull up the instances. > > The tactic is to dump your opinion out and then claim that you're not > going to respond no matter what anyone says back. Well, sometimes you get frustrated having to say the same thing again and again. As someone once told me, "On your death bed, do you really think you'll regret all the moments you *didn't* spend arguing with assholes on the Internet?" >It's nothing but > arrogance, closed-mindedness, and bluster. Well, actually, it was a combination of a few things. First of all, an oversensitivity on my part to issues relating to 911 might have had something to do with my loss of humor. But even more so, I grew distressingly frustrated with some of the people on this list, whether wallowing in self-righteousness, spouting inane and vapid opinions, or simply acting like assholes. I suppose I realized that I was in danger of becoming something I loathed, so I dropped out of the fray for a while. I realized that by my more heated responses to people like Crowbar Joe, Barbara, and you, I was only making myself look bad. As an American who remains politically and culturally engaged, it's been a hard year, and my heart is heavy with conflict. I am happy that I have opted out of arguing specific politics on this List -- though I do still read all the political threads. I do miss some of the more reasonable voices, though - -- but it's hard to expect people to continue posting when other List members claim that their ideas should be sterilized like mules. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:37:46 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: tinfoil fame! I went to see Wilco bassist John Stirratt's side project, the Autumn Defense, a couple of months ago, and he put his tinfoil gift on his website! http://theautumndefense.com/images/139_3913.jpg my fifteen minutes are ticking... n. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Express yourself with the new version of MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:51:31 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 At 01:16 PM 5/24/2004 -0400, The Great Quail wrote: >...their ideas should be sterilized like mules. Aren't mules sterile to begin with, making any sterilization process unnecessary? - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 On Mon, 24 May 2004, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > At 01:16 PM 5/24/2004 -0400, The Great Quail wrote: > >...their ideas should be sterilized like mules. > > Aren't mules sterile to begin with, making any sterilization process > unnecessary? Yes, they are. My suggestion wasn't that some people's opinions should be sterilized, but that they are naturally sterile because there is nothing substantial to convince a new generation to hold them. So, you're right, Jason. Let's hope that Quail understands that and simply typed hastily. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:34:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 On Mon, 24 May 2004, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > At 01:16 PM 5/24/2004 -0400, The Great Quail wrote: > > >...their ideas should be sterilized like mules. > > Aren't mules sterile to begin with, making any sterilization process > unnecessary? Mules don't need a sterlization process, but ideas do, so that they can be sterile like mules ("mules and other perversions of nature", I believe) and die out. But if that wasn't what he meant, Capuchin can of course correct me. (Of course the mule thing was in the context of what I took to be a transparently obvious attempt to piss me off and draw me back into the argument I had just walked out of; I'm not sure he would have said it otherwise.) - --Chris, diggin' Can ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 18:02:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 On Mon, 24 May 2004, Capuchin wrote: > > Aren't mules sterile to begin with, making any sterilization process > > unnecessary? > > Yes, they are. My suggestion wasn't that some people's opinions should be > sterilized, but that they are naturally sterile because there is nothing > substantial to convince a new generation to hold them. "The best thing you can do about bad ideas is sterilize them so they can't breed. That way they'll die out within a generation like mules and other perversions of nature." - --Jeme A. Brelin, 27 Feb. 2004 http://www.fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/v13.n061 - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:01:30 +1200 From: Martin Bell Subject: Martin Bell/New Zealand/IDG is out of the office. I will be out of the office starting 25/05/2004 and will not return until 26/05/2004. I will respond to your message when I return. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:41:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #135 On Mon, 24 May 2004, Christopher Gross wrote: > On Mon, 24 May 2004, Capuchin wrote: > > > Aren't mules sterile to begin with, making any sterilization process > > > unnecessary? > > > > Yes, they are. My suggestion wasn't that some people's opinions > > should be sterilized, but that they are naturally sterile because > > there is nothing substantial to convince a new generation to hold > > them. > > "The best thing you can do about bad ideas is sterilize them so they > can't breed. That way they'll die out within a generation like mules > and other perversions of nature." > > --Jeme A. Brelin, 27 Feb. 2004 > http://www.fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/v13.n061 Ah, I now see where the confusion lay. You "sterilize them" by showing they are without substance... by kicking out the fallacious arguments that are used to support them. Sorry about that. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:21:21 -0700 From: "Rex Broome" Subject: Jewels and binoculars hang from the head of a perversion of nature >> "The best thing you can do about bad ideas is sterilize them so they >> can't breed. That way they'll die out within a generation like mules >> and other perversions of nature." >> >> --Jeme A. Brelin, 27 Feb. 2004 >> http://www.fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/v13.n061 Since we're revisiting the topics of late February, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you all that my fairy is called Fire Elffilter. She is a cheerful sprite. She lives where fireflies mate and breed. She is only seen on midsummer's eve. Hey, not everyone's fairy can be the bone-crushing revenger of widows, you know. - -Rex Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:32:37 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Roy Harper Edward of Sim wrote: > > The Unknown Solder nice of them to remember the fallen in the electronics industry. I like Harper, but I saw him live once, and he sucked. A lot. Stewart (station coming up, gotta go) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:40:40 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: on mules, and the sterility thereof Mules aren't always sterile. There are something like six documented cases of mules giving birth to a mule-like critter. No-one's quite sure what to call the wee mules. Stewart (just back from MO, and now waiting for a bus in Burlington.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:14:23 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: more ebay fun (0% RH) > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > ViewItem&item=4146756343&category=6 - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:24:10 -0500 From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: I gotta have more cowbell! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #152 ********************************