From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #150 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, May 23 2004 Volume 13 : Number 150 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Someone I know very little about... [Ken Weingold ] Re: Someone I know very little about... [Dolph Chaney ] Anyone have any useful advice? Etc. [Eb ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V13 #149 ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: Someone I know very little about... [Jon Lewis ] Re: Someone I know very little about... [Eb ] September Tomes [steve ] RE: Roy Harper ["David Stovall" ] Re: Someone I know very little about... ["Roberta Cowan" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 23:05:08 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Someone I know very little about... On Fri, May 21, 2004, Eb wrote: > Anyone have anything interesting to say about Roy Harper? (Spare me the > inevitable Pink Floyd and Zeppelin references, and just address his own > catalog.) All I know is that he did some work with The Tea Party, which is one of my favorite bands, and consistently the best live band I've ever seen, next to Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. TTP and Harper did a song together called Time, which is on their album called Alhambra. Great song, too. Harper sings. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 22:14:09 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Someone I know very little about... At 09:43 PM 5/21/2004, Eb wrote: >Anyone have anything interesting to say about Roy Harper? (Spare me the >inevitable Pink Floyd and Zeppelin references, and just address his own >catalog.) The one CD I have of his is UNHINGED, a live acoustic rekkid recorded between 89 and 91. He's in great voice and achieves a fantastic acoustic guitar tone -- reminds me of an un-Irish Luka Bloom with deeper lyrics. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 19:27:50 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Ireland, Sladek, Harper > >> You just couldn't do that with any other ethnic group. > > > > you couldn't? You never watched "Father Ted", then? > >It's a show made in Ireland, with Irish authors and actors. I was >talking about a Candian advert, with a non-Scottish actor pretending >to be Scottish. There's a difference. and is all Irish-mocking done by the Irish themselves? I don't think so... >And I just finished reading John Sladek's "Roderick" and "Roderick >At Random" too, where the Machine Liberation Front dress up as >robots and demand rights and freedom from drudgery for machines. He >was waaay ahead of his time. Certainly unfairly pigeonholed as "just >a scifi writer". aaah... you have mentioned one of my all-time favourite writers. His short stories are beautifully Robynesque, too - much recommended to you all. >Anyone have anything interesting to say about Roy Harper? (Spare me the >inevitable Pink Floyd and Zeppelin references, and just address his own >catalog.) What I've heard of his is pretty excellent, though an acquired taste. If you're looking at CDs, I'd recommend starting with the best-of "HQ (When an old cricketer leaves the crease)", the title track of which is possibly the best non-baseball sport-related song ever. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 08:48:45 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: congrats On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:21:44 -0700, "Glen Uber" said: > Tom wrote: > > > "Today (May 19th) marks 13 years since Coleen and I were married and 25 > > years since we had our first date." > > Carol and I were married on the anniversary of our first date, as well. > Granted, we waited only 4 years instead of 12. As were Rose and I - on our 9th (now going on 21). - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Miracles are like meatballs, because nobody can exactly agree :: what they are made of, where they come from, or how often :: they should appear. :: --Lemony Snicket ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:35:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Anyone have any useful advice? Etc. A question for the techies.... I have a friend using a PC, who tried to use her external CD-R drive with a different PC computer. She had a CD which installed the necessary accompanying software. After installing the software, the computer started recurrently freezing, to the point that she can't even properly get online. The aforementioned CD included an "Uninstall" option, so she used that to uninstall the software and disconnected the drive. But...the freezing continues. Any tips or solutions? Preference files to check for? I'm a Mac guy, so I really can't offer any advice myself. I realize that my account of the problem is missing specific details about operating system version, brand of drive, etc, but.... In other news, I heard two really neat things on Indie 103.1FM yesterday: 1. The Minutemen's "Corona" (also known as the song which is sampled for the "Jackass" theme). Wow! I have *never* heard the Minutemen on commercial radio before. Startling! 2. A new mashup in which Lennon's "A Day in the Life" vocal is laid over the backing track of Radiohead's "Karma Police." A really interesting mix. Furthermore, the instrumental break adds the "Everyone's got one" chant from "I Am the Walrus." Have others heard this? Very clever! I finished a very satisfying 9.4-mile trail run this morning, so am in a good mood for once. Eb PS Film of the week: Lon Chaney in "The Penalty." Silent film from 1920. Lon's character has both legs amputated at the knee, and Lon limps around the whole film with his lower legs painfully bound behind him to create the illusion. Great! Possibly the best silent film I've seen, which I wasn't *expecting* to love based on its "landmark" reputation. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 21:19:10 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V13 #149 >From: "Michael Wells" >Wasn't he the half-brother of Hrothgar? Or was it the other way 'round? I was thinking of Hranfnkel Hallfredsson eponymous hero of Hrafnkel's saga whose genealogy refers only to his father. I looked through the other other sources I have to hand and found one other Hrafnkel who appears in Halfdan Eysteinsson's saga as the brother of the beserk Ivar Bundle but with no further genealogy. Eb: >Anyone have anything interesting to say about Roy Harper? (Spare me the >inevitable Pink Floyd and Zeppelin references, and just address his own >catalog.) > I don't have anything "interesting" to say. I heard a lot of Roy Harper both studio and live-bootlegs in the mid 80's but I can only remember bits of two of his songs, "Me and my Woman" and "I hate the white man". Very laid back and in fact rather turgid and of interest primarily to the the terminally stoned. I remember the live stuff being full of false starts and meandering intros punctuated by spliffs being passed up from the audience. Oh and Ben Harper is the son of a friend of a friend from Marborough Brian _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 17:31:54 -0400 From: Jon Lewis Subject: Re: Someone I know very little about... On Friday, May 21, 2004, at 10:43 PM, Eb wrote: > Anyone have anything interesting to say about Roy Harper? (Spare me > the inevitable Pink Floyd and Zeppelin references, and just address > his own catalog.) > > Eb > > I'm still getting a feel for him, but I definitely like him a lot. I have STORMCOCK, LIFEMASK, and then a bunch of individual songs grabbed from Limewire. I sought out those two albums after repeatedly seeing them cited as his most innovative and intense. I'd highly recommend either one. In that fairly epic-oriented period, Harper seems to have favored lengthy songs that start out centered on him singing and playing acoustic, then halfway through explode into a huge, awe-inspiring ensemble arrangements. Definite post-STARSAILOR territory. His own playing shares something with Nick Drake's in its elfin British-folksy hyperpicking, but it's always much much heavier on the bottom... definitely more ROCK playing. Very interesting guitarist to listen to. Vocally he does that British folksinger-meets-bluesrocker thing in a way that really works, not at all like Mr. Plant. When Harper jumps up to a high note he doesn't shriek at all-- it still sounds like his own voice. He shares some of our favorite RH's concern for the natural world, though sometimes his lyrics can get a bit cock-heavy. Of the other songs I have, "Twelve Hours Of Sunset" and "When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease" are both wonderful, from a later album. And one of his earlier records has "MacGoohan's Blues" (yes, someone wrote about Patrick M. before the TVP's) an exhilarating 15 or 20 minute song that does a great sort of British Dylan thing. Anyway, I say get STORMCOCK or LIFEMASK for some great early-to-mid 70's large-ensemble Heavy British Folk with a cool improv flavor and a nice heathen vibe. Both albums are available from Harper's self-run label Science Friction as imports. You can buy directly from his website too. Sorry for all the hyphens in the foregoing paragraph. Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:53:28 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Someone I know very little about... > Definite post-STARSAILOR territory. Funny you say that because, yeah, I was specifically wondering if there was any conceptual cultish-folk-meets-rock connection with Tim Buckley. > Sorry for all the hyphens in the foregoing paragraph. You hyphen-wielding bastard, you. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:22:26 -0500 From: steve Subject: September Tomes September 2004 - -------------- Overlook will be publishing The Complete Roderick by John Sladek. 5 3/8 x 8, 611 pp., tp, $17.95. Part of Overlook SF&F Classics, along with Bug Jack Barron and Cities In Flight. DK will be publishing The Beatles: 10 Years That Shook The World. 8 3/4 x 11 3/4, 464 pp. hc, $39.95. "A critical compilation of the day-by-day lives of the greatest band in the history of Rock & Roll." By the editors of Mojo Magazine, so it must be true. September 2005 - -------------- Andrews McMeel will be publishing The Complete Calvin and Hobbes Omnibus. Three landscape format hardbacks in a slipcase. Start saving now, because it will be $150.00. - - Steve __________ I know from first-hand experience that a president acting secretly usually does not have the best interests of Americans in mind. Rather, it is his own personal interests that are at stake. - John Dean, on George W. Bush ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:19:44 -0700 From: "David Stovall" Subject: RE: Roy Harper >Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:43:27 -0700 >From: Eb >Subject: Someone I know very little about... > >Anyone have anything interesting to say about Roy Harper? (Spare me the >inevitable Pink Floyd and Zeppelin references, and just address his own >catalog.) It's hard to describe Roy; his liner notes do a better job at that. His voice can be annoying - thin, no vibrato to speak of, occasionally winds up sounding flat when it's not - but at least I believe he really means everything he sings. Kinda like Neil Young, but without the flannel. Some of my favorite RHarper albums: _When An Old Cricketer Leaves the Crease_ (also released in the US as _HQ_), _Once_, _Flat, Baroque and Berserk_, _Flashes From the Archives of Oblivion_, _One of those Days in England (Bullinamingvase)_, . . . the _Hats Off to Roy_ disc is a decent introductory collection. Wish I had time to write more informatively - Roy's really fascinating. I was listening to _The Unknown Soldier_ in the car just yesterday. Not one of my favorites of his, but the song with Kate Bush is pretty cool; the album cover has to be the most misleading one in his catalog, compared to the contents. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 21:57:54 -0400 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: Someone I know very little about... > Anyone have anything interesting to say about Roy Harper? (Spare me the > inevitable Pink Floyd and Zeppelin references, and just address his own > catalog.) Much of his catalog I own only on LP and haven't listened to in awhile but generally speaking, imo all the albums he made during the 70s are worth having. I am still most fond of HQ (aka When An Old Cricker Leaves the Crease) and Stormcock. I've heard some of his later albums and there were some very good moments, especially the most recent offerings, but they are generally uneven. I believe the stoned meanderings were mostly in the 80s so you can avoid those.. :-) I can see the Starsailor comparison in Stormcock and the 2 albums that came after it, Lifemask and Valentine. And yes, he has reissued all of his catalog now plus some odds & ends. Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 00:48:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: grey album http://www.illegal-art.org/audio/grey.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains  Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #150 ********************************