From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #98 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 31 2004 Volume 13 : Number 098 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Both hammered and dulcimered ["Rex.Broome" ] thoth response [Tom Rodebaugh ] Re: closing tracks [grutness@surf4nix.com] Crying Out for the Original Fuck ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: cheap MP3 player for OS X [Ken Weingold ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #93 [Michael R Godwin ] Calling feg Talking Heads fans ["Matt Sewell" ] cheap MP3 player for OS X ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] FW: cheap MP3 player for OS X [Tom Clark ] compellingly disturbing / disturbingly compelling ["Stewart C. Russell" <] Re: compellingly disturbing / disturbingly compelling [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:46:45 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Both hammered and dulcimered Nuppy: >>The last indecipherable verse of Jennifer is: >>I would rub sand paper on my face >>If, only if, my heart was the drug that you laced Now, did I only find that totally desipherable because I've heard the track so many times, or do I just inherently understand Nuppese? >>Matthew Seligman was kind enough to play >>on a couple tracks. I owe him big time! Heh... Brian tipped me off to this fact and then asked me not to mention it in my liner notes. Guess he was waiting for this historic moment to reveal it. Cool. Brian H: >>I probably *will* use Icicle Thieves some day but most of the time my >>imaginary band is called Bicycle Thieves. Wow. Even my correction was entirely wrong. How do you like that? What the hell is Icicle Thieves? Seems like it was the title of an indie film which was some sort of homage to the original Bicycle Thieves. I do know the band Bicycle *Thief* was a (possibly now defunct?) Thelonious Monster offshoot which wasn't half bad. Nat: >>In a similar vein, a track on the new Wilco record features prominent use of >>hammered dulcimer. Okay, who besides me has actually played one? As part of their gradeschool curriculum? 'Kay... besides Nels, dare I ask who else is in Wilco now? Might as well toss Mike Watt in there, and hell, let's have Carla do the backing vocals... Mickeeee Godwin: >>There is a stack of stuff in the archive which I am currently polishing up, re-writing >>or re-recording for eventual public perusal, but at my current work rate it could take >>a year or two. Very cool. One more reason to delay my plans for self-immolation. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:59:26 -0600 From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: cheap MP3 player for OS X OK, I want a portable device to play MP3s, but I don't want to spend over $250 for an iPod. Anybody know of something in the $50-$100 range? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:08:54 -0800 (PST) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #93 Me: >> Oh, but this is truly a marvellous song, 'specially >> with that lo-fi sound. Please tell me you have >> more of this. Makes me think of Gong or Traffic >> but good though! MRG: > Well, you spotted where I'm coming from (although > this piece was supposed to be influenced by Two-Tone > records). Definitely a skank thang going on in the breaks but you're not going to make it to "Bath Ska Vol I" I'm afraid. Any chance of typing up the lyrics? > There is a stack of stuff in the archive which I am > currently polishing up, re-writing or re-recording > for eventual public perusal, but at my current work > rate it could take a year or two. "Michael needs to learn to focus on important matters, vis-a-vis music, and avoid faffing around with work nonsense. See me after class." (H) np Snuff "Mini Discs & No Gaffer" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:09:00 -0500 From: Tom Rodebaugh Subject: thoth response continuing to enjoy the thoth cd and feeling compelled to respond, below: At 03:39 PM 3/29/2004 -0500, rex et al wrote: > >>tlr3 - "Second Chance" > >Just noticed Tom's sig when he delurked: >Thomas Rodebaugh >Postdoctoral Fellow >Adult Anxiety Clinic >Temple University > >...which sort of suggests where he might've gotten some inspiration for >the lyrics on this tune! a little bit, yeah. it's actually a series of embarrassing/shame-inducing evaluation experiences, told from a vaguely psychotic point of view. people who just have anxiety problems have anxiety about these things, but because i was trying to write it as a radiohead-like lyric, it came out all thought-disordered. thus the general reaction, i guess. seeing as how some people liked my song, i was inspired to put some stuff online (it hasn't been online since mp3.com imploded). it's at: http://www.webkist.com/~tom/music/ sorry for the wma files. it's all i could do at work. see "feral child" for more disturbing stuff. see "it's going around" for actual guitar. (i don't really play guitar myself, so it's rarely on any of my songs.) if people like those, maybe i'll put up "(jesus likes a) freak show (as much as the next guy)" :) > >>What is that strange cry at the start? > >I've been meaning to ask the same thing, but I kinda like the mystery of it... well, i told the person who originally asked, but i guess i'll leave it mysterious. but i will say that it's thematically/lyrically/conceptually consistent! cheers, tom Thomas Rodebaugh Postdoctoral Fellow Adult Anxiety Clinic Temple University (215) 204 1575 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:26:35 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: closing tracks >R BROOME: > > > Am I alone in feeling that Robyn shares with the Byrds a real tendency > > > to make very poor album-closing choices? > >E BROOME: > > I kinda like how "Flesh Number One (Beatle Dennis)" wraps up Globe of > > Frogs with a happy-pop bow, however. to take the opposite tack, I always thought that this was one trick that XTC were excellent at. "Complicated Game", "Travels in Nihilon", "Funk pop-a-roll", "Chalkhills and children", "The last balloon", even the generally maligned "Books are burning". Add in the single-disc ES's "All of a sudden", and you've got a series of killer closing tracks. - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:02:01 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Crying Out for the Original Fuck Matt: >>Dolph Chaney  Status Unknown >>An Enoesque e-bow guitar line supports the >>accoustic guitar and Dolphs full, throaty voice which reminds me a >>little of Peter Gabriel. Gabriel x Mould = Chaney? Recently my iPod on shuffle delivered something that sounded like a slightly woodsy forgotten Gabriel track... turned out to be a track from the last Califone album which had escaped my notice! It's all in the context with the Gabrielisms, I guess. >>as well as an influence that pervades the whole >>album  that of (good) REM. Damn... all my efforts to emulate the b-sides from Reveal, unnoticed and ultimately wasted... >>Fort Ashby  Rainland >>I can hear a definite nod to some of the best UK >>indie from the late 80s and early 90s. Kitchens of Distinction and Ultra >>Vivid Scene spring to mind, as the songwriting is as tight and >>well-formed as the arrangements. (scribbling on scrap of paper) note to self... find some Kitchens of Distinction records and listen to them... >>Great chord sequence in the chorus I decided I might as well use all three! >>The New Moon  Dark Matter >>I dont know whether its my imagination, but do the drums sound perkier >>than on the original? The vocals seem a bit clearer, too, and I could >>swear the guitar has a better tone. I guess Ill be begging Rex to master >>our album when it finally emerges somewhere around 2035. Well, it is probably... slightly louder than it used to be? It did go through ProTools to get de-glitchified (still don't think I nailed it) so I probably amped it up in the process. I thought it sounded pretty good to begin with. >>Michael Wells  Lullaby For Two >>Ive never spoken highly of yer >>Yamaha guitars, but Michaels has a lovely tone which accentuates the >>finger-picking prettiness. Hey, has anyone detected the cricket on this track? I can't hear it all. Musta been that Replacements show in '91... >>Popsicle Thieves  Touch You Natalie Jane >>This is just crying out for the original fuck Who isn't? Wait a second... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:47:34 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: MBV >> They were always horribly underrepresented on the Web >> before...fansites which >> hadn't been updated in years.... > > Well, there was no one stopping you from building the best MBV site on > the web, was there? Man, there are a BUNCH of artists which call out for a good website. But I'm already caretaking one of them, and I don't want to spread myself too thin. ;) Actually, I might compile a list of artists with crummy (or no) websites to post later. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:31:14 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: cheap MP3 player for OS X On Tue, Mar 30, 2004, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > OK, I want a portable device to play MP3s, but I don't want to spend > over $250 for an iPod. Anybody know of something in the $50-$100 > range? Used iPod? ;-) How much storage are you looking for? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:33:14 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #93 On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Groove Puppy wrote: > Definitely a skank thang going on in the breaks but you're not going to > make it to "Bath Ska Vol I" I'm afraid. Bother. Maybe I'll junk that speed metal version of "The harder they come". > Any chance of typing up the lyrics? Should be available at: > "Michael needs to learn to focus on important matters, vis-a-vis music, > and avoid faffing around with work nonsense. See me after class." Must dash now - I have to run a small SPSS analysis of 39 interviews about the difficulties employers have in administering the tax credit system. - - MRG n.p. Birds in Perspex, Ronnie Scotts, Birmingham "The boy's hands are small, his feet are big" - Geoffrey Willans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:04:26 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Calling feg Talking Heads fans Hello there Could someone help me? I'm looking for a CD copy of The Name of This Band... I know it's never been available in that format, but could someone do me a copy for a trade? I promise to buy it if it ever is released on CD... I've got a good deal of high quality Robyn/SBs boots... Cheers! Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you going travelling? Help us to find the 100 best internet cafes in the world. Click here for more details and you could win #250 and a digital camera! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:22:28 -0600 From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: cheap MP3 player for OS X OK, I want a portable device to play MP3s, but I don't want to spend over $250 for an iPod. Anybody know of something in the $50-$100 range that I can USB or Firewire or Bluetooth into my OS X G4 with? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:32:02 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: FW: cheap MP3 player for OS X Gene - I sent this to you yesterday but the mail delivery got stalled. - -tc - ------ Forwarded Message From: Tom Clark Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:16:05 -0800 To: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: cheap MP3 player for OS X on 3/30/04 12:59 PM, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. at ehopstetter@pcicatalog.com wrote: > OK, I want a portable device to play MP3s, but I don't want to spend > over $250 for an iPod. Anybody know of something in the $50-$100 > range? Is "free" cheap enough? I've got a couple of MP3 players that I've "acquired" from a previous company. I was going to put them on eBay, but I'd much rather give them to the needy. So, are you needy, Gene? - -tc - ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:48:46 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: compellingly disturbing / disturbingly compelling It being my last day at work, there's not much actual work going on. We've been trying to find the oddest web animation we can. This one wins it so far: go to , select "Movies", then select "Pee Pee". It's, um, ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:13:52 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: compellingly disturbing / disturbingly compelling on 3/31/04 10:48 AM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@sympatico.ca wrote: > It being my last day at work, there's not much actual work going on. We've > been trying to find the oddest web animation we can. > > This one wins it so far: go to , select "Movies", then > select "Pee Pee". > > It's, um, ... Um...oooooookay.... "We decided to create Kimberg.tv as a platform to display and distribute art that we believe in." I like to think I'm a pretty open minded guy. But, is this an "Art Film", or just some people playing with resin foam and a video camera? Does it mean anything? Does art have to have a meaning? I wrestle with these questions every day of my life. More coffee? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:07:20 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Speaking of yesterday's MBV chat.... Looking for a musical act to start a fansite for? Here are some deserving artists I like, which I recall having either *no* homepage or notably deficient ones. Now, granted, I haven't surfed for many of these names in awhile, so I'd be more than happy to hear people inform me of hole-plugging URLs. I'm sure there are quite a few of these names which don't belong anymore. In any case.... Top of my list: The Animals Archers of Loaf Beat Happening Big Star The Birthday Party The Blue Aeroplanes Harold Budd Exene Cervenka Alex Chilton The Clean Ornette Coleman Dumptruck Mark Eitzel Fairport Convention Firehose Gang of Four The Golden Palominos The Guess Who The Hang Ups Richard Harris (I've long considered this my second choice to fill a weirdo Longet-esque niche...) George Harrison Lida Husik The Kingsbury Manx Chris Knox/Tall Dwarfs Love and Rockets/Tones on Tail John Lurie/The Lounge Lizards Luscious Jackson Macha The Minus 5 Mouse on Mars National Lampoon James Newton Ken Nordine The Olivia Tremor Control Pavement Penguin Cafe Orchestra Polara Portastatic The Raincoats The Rain Parade The Rascals Ride Ruby/Silverfish Sebadoh The Seeds Sly & the Family Stone Spacemen 3 Carl Stalling The Standells Sugar The Sugarcubes Cecil Taylor To Rococo Rot The Verlaines The Woodentops The Yardbirds The Young Fresh Fellows Honorable mention: The Able Tasmans The Ambitious Lovers The Art Bears The Blues Magoos Bongwater The Chocolate Watchband Stewart Copeland Derek & the Dominos Downy Mildew Dub Narcotic Sound System Fetchin Bones Flop Fluid Ounces Bruce Gilbert The Grassy Knoll Margo Guryan The Halo Benders Richard Harris (who was always my second choice to fill a weirdokitsch, Longet-esque niche...) Hugo Largo The Jazz Passengers Scott Johnson Killdozer Last Exit Daniel Lentz Let's Active The Lonesome Organist Mahlathini/The Mahotella Queens Material The Monks of Doom The Nazz Mary Margaret O'Hara Possum Dixon The Reindeer Section Shockabilly Chris Stamey Straitjacket Fits The Swell Maps Thelonious Monster [hi Lawndart] The 3Ds Thunderclap Newman Tiny Lights Tipsy Tomorrow Violet Indiana The Volcano Suns Now, get Googlin'!! ;) Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #98 *******************************