From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #85 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, March 20 2004 Volume 13 : Number 085 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the return of O'Rourke ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] FW: My Bloody Musical Birthday [Catherine Simpson ] Re: The The [grutness@surf4nix.com] Jeff Mangum takes over the world [Eb ] "Wonderfalls" [Eb ] Re: "Wonderfalls" [Miles Goosens ] Re: "Wonderfalls" [Eb ] Re: "Wonderfalls" [steve ] Greatful Dead to Take Over World [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:55:25 -0600 From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: the return of O'Rourke > From: "Natalie Jane" > > Speaking of Jimbo - Gene, put down the copy of Insignificance and back > away > slowly. I've been down that road before, believe me (with Jim Foetus Thirlwell, among others). But the strange and wonderful thing about O'Rouke is that he's been a thread in the fabric of a lot of music I've enjoyed for the past decade, but I've never really paid much attention to his Royal O'Rourkeness. But since I heard "Insignificance" I can't ignore him and wonder what I've been missing in those other records. It's a curious, recursive relistening process I'm about to embark on. I only own two Gastr del Sol albums, guess I'd better get the others quickly. Uh-oh, now I know what you're talking about. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:41:56 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: ROTROTK (Contains rhino-related and other spoilers) Nat: >>Return of the King is, without a doubt, one of the coolest movies I have >>ever seen. Not the BEST, by a long shot (I'd have to give that title to >>Fargo or The Royal Tenenbaums), but... the elephants, man, the ELEPHANTS!! Yeah, the elephants. But you know what wigged me out, and nobody ever talks about it? Sauron also had fucking *attack rhinos*! Whah? I don't remember attack rhinos from the book! I mean, I guess it makes sense as another animal the Southrons might bring along, but... at least elephants are actually trained for riding purposes in the real world. Who trains a rhino? But I saw them, right up close to the gates of Minas Tirith. More than one person has told me I imagined them. Re: Southrons in general...kind of a weird thing from the books and I haven't quite made sense of how it translates in the films, other than I'm slightly surprised it didn't piss someone somewhere off... maybe the idea doesn't come across, intentionally or because it's a geeky detail, but... yeah, it's an army of dark-skinned and/or sort of Arabic-culture type people who come up from the southern lands with African animals and are flat-out evil. I guess there are probably non-evil Southrons who by definition wouldn't march off to serve Sauron, but we've seen people scream "racism" at paler shadows... Steve: >>Saruman lost out to running time. He'll be back in the special edition >>DVD set. Spoiler in a more real sense: you ain't gonna get the Scouring of the Shire, Jackson hates it and I don't blame him. Saruman is gonna be killed in the tower by Brad "Grima" "Wormtongue" "I'm from West Virginia and I was in Dune" Dourif. And for what it's worth, I think Aragron should have apologized to Rohan for arriving late to Minas Tirith. I have my reasons! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:07:40 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: My Bloody Musical Birthday So, it's, like, my birthday and stuff, so you wanna know what I'm doing? FEGS EN MASSE: Fuck no, Rex, we totally don't care! Okay, I'll tell you. Me and my friends are pretty nutty with the birthday gifts for each other, but nobody ever gives me music as a gift because the either think I have everything already or don't know what I do and don't have. And yet... whenever anyone looks at my daunting Wall O' CD's, the second thing they inevitably say (after "Dude, that's a buttload of CD's") is, "I can't believe you don't have any _____!!!", where ____ could be an artist, genre, album, or just about anything. So obviously my friends find my musical tastes deficient in some areas, but are hesitant to do anything about it. This year I challenged them to do just that. Along with my e-mail invite to the party we're throwing tomorrow, I sent a copy of the database containing all the titles I own. The idea is: if you're getting me a gift at all, it should be music, and it should be the album(s) you think I should have but don't. And I promise to listen to everything I get and retain every record in my permanent collection. The idea sounds slightly greedy, but I ran it by enough people before committing to it and everyone thought it was kind of a cool challenge and appropriately Rexy as a theme... what I like is the chance that I'll have my musical horizons expanded while gaining a little insight into my friends's musical passions and what they make of mine. I expect to (A) spend the night getting my chops good-naturedly busted for my oddball musical tastes (since in the course of looking for what I don't have, everyone has seen what I *do* have and will doubtless be appalled at some of my guilty pleasures) and (B) come away with some really weird and diverse stuff, since my circle of friends is in no way bound by similar musical tastes. At all. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised to end the day with my collection enriched equally by anything from the Residents to Toto to Radiohead to the Eagles to King Crimson and probably the first major jazz incursion into my playlist. Should be... interesting. Anyhow... additional Happy Birthday to Chris Franz, exactly my age and born in the same state if I do recall correctly. I know you're out there... - -Rex, who can almost feel it raaaaiiining... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:15:45 -0800 From: Catherine Simpson Subject: FW: My Bloody Musical Birthday Oops - this was supposed to go to the list, not just Rex... Sorry you're getting this twice, Rex: Rex said: >>"So, it's, like, my birthday and stuff..." HAPPY FUCKING BIRTHDAY, REX! - - Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:53:56 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: The The > > The one that gets me is The Hague. The US and the Netherlands are > > variations on "The Kingdom/Land/Confederacy of Whatever", but what did > > The Hague do to earn its article? Interesting that The Hague causes difficulties but we can happily accept Le Havre. Other oddities of this type include the African country that was, for a while, officially called "The Gambia" (it was named for its major river, which is always referred to as the Gambia). James PS _ uh-oh. Looks like Jonathan F's got hiccoughs. - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:00:52 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Jeff Mangum takes over the world Happened to see a brief glimpse of a NCAA tournament basketball game today...it was East Tennessee vs. Cincinnati. Every Cincinnati uniform had a prominent oval insignia near the right shoulder saying "NMH." No kiddin'!!! A nice gesture to be sure, but I doubt this will make another Neutral Milk Hotel album any more likely. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:39:50 -0800 From: Eb Subject: "Wonderfalls" If this had been the first episode instead of the second, I probably wouldn't have tuned in again this week. If a series is going to star a sourpuss, it needs to be a *charismatic* sourpuss. I'm starting to think I'd enjoy this show more, if the lesbian sister was the main character. Bleh. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 01:51:16 -0500 (EST) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: "Wonderfalls" Eb: >If this had been the first episode instead of the second, I probably >wouldn't have tuned in again this week. If a series is going to star a >sourpuss, it needs to be a *charismatic* sourpuss. I *so* don't get this. Sassy brunette slacker with a taste for smart, irreverent banter and (if I got lucky and made it to her place) funky interior decor? I'd have a huge crush on her from the get-go. And I'd have half a chance with Eb out of the picture! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:14:00 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: "Wonderfalls" > Sassy brunette slacker One man's "sassy" is another man's "crabby." ;) I'd like to post something contrastingly drippy about Maggie Gyllenhaal here, but I can't quite find the transitional link.... Jesus, "Pretty (Ugly Before)" is gorgeously heartbreaking. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 01:44:47 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: "Wonderfalls" On Mar 20, 2004, at 12:39 AM, Eb wrote: > Bleh. Eh? Partridge will soon shoot up to Number 1 at the iTunes Store. The dad was reading Made In Texas, which seemingly fits not at all with his later Bush comment. Could it be irony, or perhaps foreshadowing. - - Steve __________ "Miyazaki's latest animation feature (co-winner with 'Bloody Sunday' of the Berlin Golden Bear) more than justifies his status as Japan's most revered culture hero. What starts out as a fine example of the through-the-looking- glass kids' adventure genre becomes almost Shakespearean in its lyricism, breadth of vision and humanity." - Tony Rayns, Sight & Sound ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:31:51 -0600 From: steve Subject: Greatful Dead to Take Over World > The Grateful Dead is still putting its own archive out. Besides > standard CD releases, the Dead is finalizing a deal with Apple's > I-Tunes to make every live note they've ever recorded available for > download. The Grateful Dead is? - - Steve __________ Even for those who accept the basic premise of a proactive Almighty Father, it's probably unsettling to think that W. is charging into battle with the blind confidence that God will *of course* help him emerge victorious-just like he helped Bush kick the hooch and become a better father. - Michelle Cottle ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #85 *******************************