From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #76 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 10 2004 Volume 13 : Number 076 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Back when you could still be post-modern on purpose... [Eb ] RE: Back when you could still be post-modern on purpose... ["Jason Brown ] RE: FW: Robin in the news ["Matt Sewell" ] La Dolce Lyncha [The Great Quail ] Missed show haikus [The Great Quail ] RE: Missed shows ["Matt Sewell" ] RE: Missed show haikus ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Missed show haikus [fingerpuppets ] Re: La Dolce Lyncha ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Back when you could still be post-modern on purpose... [Aaron Mandel ] FWIW ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Missed show haikus [Christopher Gross ] a missed show haiku [John Barrington Jones ] the bible, postmodernism & everything ["ross taylor" ] Re: the bible, postmodernism & everything [Eb ] Flipper [Ken Weingold ] Re: the bible, postmodernism & everything ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Flipper [Ken Weingold ] Re: Missed shows [Tom Clark ] Re: Missed shows [Roberta Cowan ] Re: Missed shows [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Missed shows [Eb ] Re: Missed shows [Eb ] Re: Missed shows ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Missed shows (Leica) [Tom Clark ] Re: Missed shows ["Roberta Cowan" ] Re: Missed shows (Leica) [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Missed shows [Eb ] Re: Missed shows [Steve Talkowski ] some dreadful haiku [Jill Brand ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:59:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Back when you could still be post-modern on purpose... >But that's exactly why Pi is in Eraserhead territory! You just made my >point. The two are pretty handily analogous... so why isn't Aronofsky a >cultural touchstone today in the way that Lynch was twenty years ago? Oh, twaddle. Lynch's rep was built on a *few* films, not just one. And they were better made than Pi, besides. And you're nuts if you think Eraserhead jokes would have worked in a Carson monologue. You're bending reality to suit your dogmatic philosophies again. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:13:39 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: talk - it's aaall talk > >What performance art is still being done? The closest thing I can think of >>is "The Waking Life," and that's not really the same thing at all. > >"Soy Bomb." ;) > >And I guess Ann Magnuson pops up now and then? Is "Christo" still >wrapping trees and things? Well, there's the guy who assembles nude crowds to photograph... and Andre "Angel of the north" Gormley does a few things, too. And don't forget the flash-mob phenomenon, which probably counts as performance art. > > Fair enough. Unlike Jeme I wouldn't be surprised the these folks >didn't know >> who Gray was, but I would feel a little old (so you've got me >>there) and not a >> little sad as well. Part of it is that you simply don't take stock of every >> figure from your youth every year, one by one, saying, oh, is he >>still valid? >> Do people still pay attention to her stuff? So when one of those >>names comes >> back around, it can be a little surprising to realize how much cultural >> currency they've lost while you weren't paying attention. > >Man, that is all too true, and well put. When I taught high school, I was >always surprised at how cultural referents would change, right in front of >my eyes. one of the things that I've noticed as I approach middle age (who am I kidding - 40 counts as middle-aged, doesn't it) is the heroes of my youth dropping dead. Yet many of them would definitely get responses of "who?" from today's 20-year-olds. As to cultural referents, I was brought up short a couple of years ago teaching a first-year university class about group conflict. I mentioned - as a perfect example of what I was referring to - the build-up of nuclear arms during the cold war. I was met by a sea of blank faces. Seems that over half of them had never heard of the cold war. > >Wow, this conversation turned out a lot differently than I thought it would. > >Best thread in awhile, though! agreed. Sadly I missed the start of it and haven't enough spare time on my hands to jump in boots'n'all like I'd like to. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:00:59 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: talk - it's aaall talk Don't think I didn't catch the subject line's blatant attempt to interpolate Republican imagery! S.O.W...: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:13:39 +1300, grutness@surf4nix.com said: > Well, there's the guy who assembles nude crowds to photograph... and > Andre "Angel of the north" Gormley does a few things, too. And don't > forget the flash-mob phenomenon, which probably counts as performance > art. Isn't George W. Bush a performance artist? Certainly, a lot of stagecraft and whitewash involved. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:41:27 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Back when you could still be post-modern on purpose... >>But that's exactly why Pi is in Eraserhead territory! You just made my >>point. The two are pretty handily analogous... so why isn't Aronofsky a >>cultural touchstone today in the way that Lynch was twenty years ago? > >Oh, twaddle. Lynch's rep was built on a *few* films, not just one. >And they were better made than Pi, besides. And you're nuts if you >think Eraserhead jokes would have worked in a Carson monologue. Additionally, by 1984, five years after Eraserhead, Lynch had been nominated for a Best Director Oscar for Elephant Man and had helmed a high profile Sci-Fi flop. Far more than Aronofsky has acomplished in the 5 years since Pi. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:28:18 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: FW: Robin in the news I think you're oversimplifying Jeme - these days when the ecosphere has been transformed by humans to such an extent, you can't just let nature take its course (of course, you can do, and be sure that the eco balance will return in a few millennia, as long as humankind leave it untouched). It's undeniable that there are problems with alien species displacing native species (frinstance rats vs the flightless birds of NZ) and with native species becoming too numerous due to lack of natural predators (deer and squirrels here in the UK that need to be culled to keep our woodland as healthy as it can be). People have intervened in natural situations, for good or ill, for so long that further intervention is pretty much unavoidable in order to try and conserve what we have left. Cheers Matt >From: Capuchin >On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > The problem is, they multiply at an alarming rate. They not also wipe > > out fish population, but they also eat all the foliage in their roosting > > area, so you end up with denuded vegetation. > >But the cause isn't the cormorants... it's something else. What? > >Consider also that this was exactly the justification for wiping out the >passenger pigeon. > >J. >-- >_______________________________________________ > >Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Half price modem, FREE connection and one month FREE - click here to sign up to BT Broadband. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:07:08 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: La Dolce Lyncha Jeff writes, > I think you're both right: Lynch "gets off" on his violence, and he's > appalled by that fact. But he also has this strangely sweet and > optimistic side, and it is *not* ironic. I think people who misread that > aspect of his work as ironic miss a huge part of what makes his art work. Just to be clear, I remarked that I thought the sweet parts of "Blue Velvet" were ironic. I agree with you that Lynch does have a genuine sweet side -- "The Straight Story" providing its biggest outlet, but you may certainly find touches of it in all his work. > Tarantino's violence is cartoonish, in that it's stylized, textual, and > usually not particularly representational: it's an aestheticized or > ironized object. Oooh, Jeff, you are turning me on with that kind of talk! What do you say we play a few Xenakis albums and get to know each other better? You bring the wine, I'll bring the Kriss Ravetto. (Some nice remarks on Tarantino, there.) > Is that the same Bone those apes were tossing into the air at the > beginning of _2001_? Uh...er...yes, fitted with very large black sunglasses and a dash of mirror sequins.... - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:24:38 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Missed show haikus "What -- You missed the Stones? I had tix I could not use...!" Sad disconnection. Radiohead 1: "OK Computer," hell yes! Oh, Lovecraft con'frence. British Sea Power! Yes, falling in love again.... Fuck me! They just played? Radiohead 2: Box seats for Kid A tour? When? - --Same day as "Siegfried?!?" U2 moves my heart, Chrysanthemum blossom Fall. Fuuuuuuck....! Lovecraft again? Robyn Hitchcock and Hawkwind in one sweet weekend...? Oh, wait -- that's Chris Gross. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:34:18 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: Missed shows Full marks for a brilliant thread, Eb! I don't think I can equal your offerings, but for the record, here are mine... Soft Boys Oxford show My appendix let me down Friends went without me Oxfords Port Mahon Who came when my own band played? As usual, no-one The Doors have reformed Ian Astbury - worth a look? I wouldnt bother Julian H Cope I loved your heavy metal At the London show It was so moving To see Arthur Lee and Love Everybody cried The Relationships? Screw you guys, Im going home Poor mans REM Roy Harpers birthday The Royal Festival Hall Best gig of that year I saw TV Smith From old punk band the Adverts Not so punk these days Cheers Matt >From: Eb >Another list I'm on started a "missed-show haiku" thread. I thought that >was a delightful concept, and gave it an extra effort. Here was what I came >up with...and you? > >Eb _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:35:38 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: Missed show haikus Oh right... *missed* shows... Doh! Matt >From: The Great Quail > >--Quail - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you going travelling? Help us to find the 100 best internet cafes in the world. Click here for more details and you could win #250 and a digital camera! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:44:57 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: Missed show haikus the dresden dolls and an ice storm in new england? give up, eat sushi ummmm.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:15:46 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: La Dolce Lyncha On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:07:08 -0500, "The Great Quail" said: > > Tarantino's violence is cartoonish, in that it's stylized, textual, and > > usually not particularly representational: it's an aestheticized or > > ironized object. > > Oooh, Jeff, you are turning me on with that kind of talk! What do you say > we > play a few Xenakis albums and get to know each other better? You bring > the > wine, I'll bring the Kriss Ravetto. Kriss Ravetto? Second-string leftfielder for the Red Sox from 1953-1959, right? Either that or a Swiss cherry liqueur... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Miracles are like meatballs, because nobody can exactly agree :: what they are made of, where they come from, or how often :: they should appear. :: --Lemony Snicket ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:22:06 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Back when you could still be post-modern on purpose... On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, The Great Quail wrote: > Maybe not, because Jay Leno is a wanker and his audience is...God only > knows! I mean, my grandmother likes Leno. Could Jon Stewart use that > line and get a laugh? Maybe. In fact, he did: the line was something like, "Today I found myself in a conversation where the curator of the Guggenheim informed me that the 'cremaster' is the muscle which elevates the testicles during sexual arousal." "That's like... you know, you're talking to the Editor-In-Chief of the New York Times and he says, 'Hey, if you put your thumb in your anus while you're ejaculating, you'll go to the moon!'" It could be argued that this joke doesn't depend on the viewer knowing what the Cremaster cycle is, but it's not *funny* that way, since the first half and the second half are equally bizarre unless, indeed, the audience knows that the Cremaster movies are playing at the Guggenheim. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:53:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: FWIW God hates shrimp. http://godhatesshrimp.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:33:54 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Missed show haikus On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, The Great Quail wrote: > Robyn Hitchcock and > Hawkwind in one sweet weekend...? > Oh, wait -- that's Chris Gross. Light snow, peaceful day Quail recalls my past folly Smash stupid hmuh in - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:42:59 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: a missed show haiku They Might Be Giants but they don't allow taping 'least not in Cortland. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:04:37 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: the bible, postmodernism & everything It's just another bible another and it's not the first it's a religious rival don't touch it or you know you're cursed And, since I got the bible/rival rhyme from "Rocky Raccoon"-- His name was Baal, and he called himself El, but everyone knew him as Yahweh Aiden-- >Probably the best basic summary of the theory is "The Pre-Adamite in a Nutshell", a paper Stephen J Gould wrote for 'Natural History' in about 1998-99 Did that end up in one of his books? - --- This reading of >> events also cleans up some of the other apparent inconsistencies in the >> early chapters of Genesis (where the children of Adam & Eve found >> husbands and wives >Cuz otherwise there'd have to be incest...another thing to throw at >fundamentalists... It proves that humans & neanderthals did actually interbreed. - --- Postmodernism, responding mostly to Rex's idea of 80's "acceptable fringe"-- I'll throw in my vote for this as an interesting thesis, but do suspect "loyalty" to one's own period can't help being a factor. Looking for "acceptable fringe" in the 90s (not so sure about the last couple of years) I automatically think about [coughs, looks meaningfully at the keyboard and monitor in front of him] the Internet. Compared to the art forms discussed in the thread so far, it's not exactly apples to apples, but that's often how it is with culture change. The area of popular innovation changes venue. The new-born internet was Hakim Bey's [sp?] "Pirate Utopia," but it was also a place where one of the intellectual property concerns was people trading copywritten knitting patterns. It was/is the Sunday afternoon church bazaar, as well as the place where people talked about Nam June Paik [sp?] while teaching you how to do javascript rollovers. Lots of people, some of them receiving this email, put huge amounts of creative, innovative energy into websites. The avant-guarde took to the internet like a crab to sand ( or a lobster to a bowler hat), and the mainstream surfed their sites. With the tech bubble bursting, & w/ the increased technical sophistication of the web, so that just typing things in angle brackets doesn't take the girl where she wants to go any more, I don't know where we are now. I don't even know what we call this decade yet. - --- Missed gigs-- The Stones live again? Nope. Video. What a drag it is getting old. The Who live again? Please. They are half dead. And dude, the music must change. James-- >Well, who really cares? >It's the thought, not scan, that counts >So fuck you, Tom Clark! Terrific! But sounds not so much Japanese as Roman, like an epigram or whatever. Ross Taylor Electro-mechanical doll, like Eric Bongo-Shaftsbury (or Julie Newmar). See the little switch in my arm? Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:23:03 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Narrowcast THIS! Eb: >>And I guess Ann Magnuson pops up now and then? Yeah... as art-damaged a West Virginian as you're likely to find. Despite which she still does things like show up as Lillian in the umpteenth revival of The Munsters. Innaresting character. >>Is "Christo" still wrapping trees and things? I think so. But his rep took a bit of a nosedive after one of his desert umbrellas went airborne and impaled that guy... remember the resultant "Art Kills" t-shirts? Wow. Guess you had to have been there. Jeffrey: >>I think you're both right: Lynch "gets off" on his violence, and he's >>appalled by that fact. But he also has this strangely sweet and >>optimistic side, and it is *not* ironic. I think people who misread that >>aspect of his work as ironic miss a huge part of what makes his art work. >>YMMV... My M doesn't V from this at all. I shoulda specified... Lynch seem to get off on his violence, but is appalled that he does so, and that drives his work in a sort of idiot-savant fashion; Tarantino gets off on his violence, then gets off on the fact the he gets off on it, and that's what spurs him forward. >>To me, this means that (as I think was the original point) the >>"avant-garde" is more distant from the "mainstream" - but it doesn't >>therefore mean the avant-garde doesn't exist. And in an odd way, that >>narrowcasting *can* make it more available. True, and in line with a few points that Jeme and Quail both made. But it also means that the audiences for even oddball things are more fragmented. We inevitably come back to music, so I'll use our general milieu of quirky-and-or-indie-ish-rock as an example, along with my characteristic anecdotal examples from my social scene. I'd say that the last universal rallying points for that crowd were Pavement and GBV, maybe Jon Spencer, maybe Stereolab... even those who didn't especially like those bands (I know Miles cites them as the beginning of his tune-out phase) would acknowledge that they were well-nigh inescapable referents at one point. But even then you were talking about groups that were, to continue this example, hardly late-night monologue fodder. Nonetheless, most of my like-minded friends either had those records or could bitch about them in an informed manner... like my friend Michael, let's say. Now, neither Michael nor myself have really decreased our music listening since that time, but our conversations about it have fewer and fewer common referents these days. We know about a lot of the same stuff and recommend things to each other all the time, but I'd wager there's little (or at least far less) overlap in the music we actually buy, and I bet I could get some blank stares from him if I mentioned some of the artists that figured prominently in the year-end top 10's hereabouts... Ted Leo, the Decemberists, the Pernice Brothers, etc... and I'm sure he could get me back with a few I've never heard of as well. Talk about narrowcasting... that audience has kinda broken down into such semi-exclusive audiences as, like, what might be considered pure or old-school indie (and that encompasses bands like Granddaddy and Death Cab for Cutie, none of whose records I have), alt-country or whatever, the elusive "emo", various strains of electro-type things, actual British music (which seems utterly separate from American indie music at this point and rife with its own subgenres), "elder statesmen" records which are sort of purchased discriminately based on one's own opinion of who's "fallen off" or knowledge of who's still recording, chamber pop-type stuff, and god knows what else. The center, I'm saying, is mighty soft these days. Whether that's good or bad, who's to say? Eb: >>Best thread in awhile, though! I'd have to agree. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:57:53 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: the bible, postmodernism & everything >Missed gigs-- > >The Stones live again? >Nope. Video. What a drag >it is getting old. > >The Who live again? >Please. They are half dead. And dude, >the music must change. Some of you Fegs don't seem to see that the missed gigs should be REGRETTED Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:04:49 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Flipper Anyone into them? Sex Bomb Baby has to be one of the best songs every written. So cool that my band is now doing it as a tension breaker / time killer type thing in band practice. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:20:39 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: the bible, postmodernism & everything At 12:57 PM 3/10/2004 -0800, Eb wrote: >Some of you Fegs don't >seem to see that the missed gigs >should be REGRETTED E. B., friend, cut slack! Room for creativity. Not attending counts? No shows this weekend... Regret that, but dinner in Tijuana instead. - --Jason "Only the few know The sweetness of the twisted Apples," -- some author. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:00:48 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Flipper on 3/10/04 1:04 PM, Ken Weingold at bofh@unix.vi wrote: > Anyone into them? Sex Bomb Baby has to be one of the best songs every > written. So cool that my band is now doing it as a tension breaker / > time killer type thing in band practice. > > Oh man, I used to piss off my fellow CS majors by blasting that song throughout the computer lab. Gotta upgrade from my old cassette... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:15:35 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Flipper On Wed, Mar 10, 2004, Tom Clark wrote: > on 3/10/04 1:04 PM, Ken Weingold at bofh@unix.vi wrote: > > Anyone into them? Sex Bomb Baby has to be one of the best songs every > > written. So cool that my band is now doing it as a tension breaker / > > time killer type thing in band practice. > > Oh man, I used to piss off my fellow CS majors by blasting that song > throughout the computer lab. Gotta upgrade from my old cassette... Well I found this MP3: . And we have discovered at band practice that this song is a lot of fun to play, and a great tension breaker and time killer. The other night we were playing it, but then the singer wanted to play my bass, so I sang. He's trying to play my bass upside down since I play lefty, and I don't sing. But here it is: - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:33:56 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Missed shows on 3/9/04 3:27 PM, Eb at ElBroome@earthlink.net wrote: > Another list I'm on started a "missed-show haiku" thread. I thought > that was a delightful concept, and gave it an extra effort. Here was > what I came up with...and you? Halloween '76 Zappa in New York City Parents said "No Way" Soft Boys in SF My Bro' flew in from Denver Nasty cold floored me Never saw Zepp'lin Tickets soon to go on sale Then Bonham bit it Snuck onto the floor Tom Petty show in Hartford Got escorted out One more Petty show Just went to see opener The Replacements rocked Fall of '83 Graham Parker in New Haven Me? Hospitalized - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:51:31 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Roberta Cowan Subject: Re: Missed shows XTC! Front row! Andy Partridge got stagefright Never toured again 8-( Cheers, Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:00:30 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Missed shows On Mar 10, 2004, at 6:51 PM, Roberta Cowan wrote: > XTC! Front row! > Andy Partridge got stagefright > Never toured again 8-( That's a total bummer! I feel your pain. Got to meet Andy and Colin during Apple Venus Vol I Tower in-store. (ok, so nowhere near a Haiku - cut me some slack...) - -Steve, thoroughly enjoying my new digital Leica D2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:01:01 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Missed shows >XTC! Front row! >Andy Partridge got stagefright >Never toured again 8-( We may need a ruling on how many syllables in "8-(" Tried group run last night Broke from pack -- yet trailed rabbits Got lost...embarrassment! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:07:12 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Missed shows >>XTC! Front row! >>Andy Partridge got stagefright >>Never toured again 8-( > >We may need a ruling on how many syllables in "8-(" > >Tried group run last night >Broke from pack -- yet trailed rabbits >Got lost...embarrassment! Oops...change that last line to "Got lost, felt silly." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:11:28 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Missed shows At 06:51 PM 3/10/2004 -0500, Roberta Cowan wrote: >XTC! Front row! >Andy Partridge got stagefright >Never toured again 8-( Last show was in San Diego, before I moved. Bad tacos, maybe? Wish I lived here When XTC last performed. Fuck you, Ralph Nader. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:18:34 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Missed shows (Leica) on 3/10/04 4:00 PM, Steve Talkowski at stevetalkowski@mac.com wrote: > -Steve, thoroughly enjoying my new digital Leica D2 > 1078958873> Wow, those are some great shots. I've been contemplating a high-end digital camera, but at close to $2G I'd have to do some real thinking... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:39:11 -0500 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: Missed shows > >XTC! Front row! > >Andy Partridge got stagefright > >Never toured again 8-( > > We may need a ruling on how many syllables in "8-(" Well alright then, here's a revision: XTC! Front row! Andy Partridge got stagefright Ne'er toured again, sigh... Better? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:42:10 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Missed shows (Leica) On Mar 10, 2004, at 7:18 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > on 3/10/04 4:00 PM, Steve Talkowski at stevetalkowski@mac.com wrote: > >> -Steve, thoroughly enjoying my new digital Leica D2 >> > 1078958873> > > Wow, those are some great shots. Thanks for looking. Nothing I'd call "Art" at this point, just my first snaps with a new toy. > I've been contemplating a high-end digital > camera, but at close to $2G I'd have to do some real thinking... Tell me about it. Panasonic LC1 is the sister camera to this (Panasonic makes the guts and Leica the glass) and you're really paying for the name and magic red dot with the Leica. The LC1 isn't out yet but will list for a few hundred less. However, I've always wanted a Lecia and decided the manual controls and beautiful design warranted the purchase. I always was contemplating other DSLRs, along with the newly announced 8MP Canon Pro 1 and Nikon 8700. The Leica optics won me over. Tom, If you haven't checked it out yet give www.dpreview.com a visit. Pretty much everything you could want to know about the latest digital going ons can be deciphered there. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:53:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Missed shows >Ne'er toured again, sigh... Too many shortcuts Am leery of Fegs' cheap use of apostrophes ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:59:49 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Missed shows On Mar 10, 2004, at 7:53 PM, Eb wrote: >> Ne'er toured again, sigh... > > Too many shortcuts > Am leery of Fegs' cheap use > of apostrophes > > ;) Is this the first time Eb has actually used a winky?? ; P ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:47:07 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: some dreadful haiku This is what I'm doing with my spring break. This girl needs a life. OK, here are my missed concert haiku. Forgive me if my counting is off. Missed Hitchcock with Bragg Still not forgiven myself Hard being a mom The Jam in Boston I on a plane from Denver Hummed Eton Rifles Morrissey solo Didnt have a friend to go With me so no show Travis in a club I didn't know till after The gig was over I had no tix for Ray Davies on Lansdowne Street I cried and stayed home I didnt feel bad When everyone saw the Dead I had a good book The Stones '69 At Madison Square Garden But I had mono XTC concert It never happened but I Still have ticket stub Jill ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #76 *******************************