From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #62 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, February 29 2004 Volume 13 : Number 062 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Dead fish drive home drunk ["Fortissimo" ] the odyssey of Quail ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: the odyssey of Quail [Eb ] Buffy [Barbara E Soutar ] Re: Dead fish drive home drunk [Tom Clark ] Re: the odyssey of Quail [Tom Clark ] weird game (O.T.) ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Dead fish aren't much fun [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: weird game (O.T.) [Eb ] Re: burpy burpy reap reap [Miles Goosens ] Re: burpy burpy reap reap [Capuchin ] RE: weird game (O.T.) ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: weird game (O.T.) [steve ] New version of RH 50th bit torrent available ["Christopher Carville" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:24:15 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Dead fish drive home drunk On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 14:58:33 -0800, "Elizabeth Brion" said: > And yet half the people you meet when you're an Elizabeth insist on > calling you Liz. Go figure. Calling someone a nickname when they've introduced themselves by a full name is the height of arrogance. Worse, though, are parents who name their kids things like "Jim" or "Billy": those kids will go their entire lives correcting official forms that have "corrected" their names to "James" and "William"... > My theory on those two names - and this is based on nothing but my own > giant Irish-Catholic family - is that for many years, girls only got > named about nine things. So they had to call you something to > differentiate you from your 8,000 cousins. My grandmother Elizabeth was > a Dolly, and my great-aunt Elizabeth was a Libby, for example. There > were a Betsy and an Elizabeth-who-went-by-Elizabeth in that generation > as well. Probably... Sadie > and Sally are both nicknames for Sarah. Why? I have no clue. I'd love > to find a book that actually explained these things, but no dice yet. That's a tongue-flip thing (which, alas, is nowhere near as dirty as it sounds). "R" is a notoriously pliable sound from language to language, dialect to dialect - and changing it to an "L" or a "D" are both close enough. Listen to Howlin' Wolf sing "Dorothy Mae" and you'll hear exactly how "Dolly" might have come from "Dorothy" (by analogy, "Sarah" to "Sally" isn't hard). - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:57:26 -0800 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: the odyssey of Quail Quail! Welcome back! :) >The reason I rejoined is, besides missing a few of you dearly, I realized >if >I would have remained subscribed, I would have heard of The Decemberists >the >first time around. Ha ha, you have been assimilated... one of us.... one of us... today, the Decemberists have conquered Brooklyn - tomorrow, the world! >Instead I had to discover them on my own, a few albums >late and several moths of Good Music poorer. What kind of moth? Sphinx moth or luna moth? n. now peeling: my new tattoo!!! (I got a quail tattooed on my forehead!) (well, actually, it's not on my forehead, but it is a bird... with a suspiciously hmuh-like crest...) _________________________________________________________________ Say good-bye to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- free trial offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:25:48 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: the odyssey of Quail >now peeling: my new tattoo!!! >(I got a quail tattooed on my forehead!) >(well, actually, it's not on my forehead, but it is a bird... with a >suspiciously hmuh-like crest...) You seriously got a tattoo on your *forehead*? Or is this just Quail-based surrealism redux? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:43:07 -0800 From: Barbara E Soutar Subject: Buffy Hi all, I see some old friends have joined in the merry throng. Haven't had time to read all the digests lately, spending all my spare time researching a biography I'm writing. The subject is a former Broadway star and Civil Rights activist who has retired to Victoria. A challenge and a delight, as she has lots of great stories but is deaf in one ear - 81 years old. I just had to chime in on the name issue. While Buffy MAY be a diminutive of Elizabeth, for Buffy Ste. Marie it was a fond variation on the name Beverly. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:21:40 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Dead fish drive home drunk on 2/28/04 2:58 PM, Elizabeth Brion at elizabeth@fringehead.com wrote: > I've actually been reading a lot of baby name books in the last few > weeks - you know, for some reason - Um, congratulations? - -tc, who never thought he would love having a little girl, especially a two year old. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:22:26 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the odyssey of Quail on 2/28/04 5:57 PM, Natalie Jacobs at emma_blowgun@hotmail.com wrote: > now peeling: my new tattoo!!! > (I got a quail tattooed on my forehead!) > (well, actually, it's not on my forehead, but it is a bird... with a > suspiciously hmuh-like crest...) Photos, please. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:46:44 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: weird game (O.T.) You figure this one out. I got 13300. Marc http://grow.55street.net/ "I read somewhere that 77 per cent of all the mentally ill live in poverty. Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 per cent who are apparently doing quite well for themselves." Emo Philips ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:48:24 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Dead fish aren't much fun >> >Lol from Laurence seems logical enough...but Bob from Robert? Bill from >> >William? Dick from Richard? Ted from Edward? >> > >> >Off the top of my head, I can't think of any women's nicknames that do >> >that...anyone? >> >> Betty and Buffy are Elizabeth, Billie is Wilhelmina, Bobbie is Roberta, >> Nan >> and Nancy are Anne ... > >Buffy<-Elizabeth? Really? > >Betty isn't the same pattern cuz the B's right there in the last syllable >(ElizaBETH->Bet(h)->Betty). Billie and Bobbie seem more along the lines >of feminine versions of the male nicknames (I'm guessing the male >nicknames are older, historically...). But Nan(cy) from Anne is the real >deal, as is Peg from Margaret. Evidently, this was an older English >nicknaming pattern...but why the particular consonant shift is what >mystifies me. Buffy via Beth, apparently. it was the Queen Mother's nickname as a child because her name was Elizabeth, for instance. The woman who doesn't answer to Elsie (we all missed that one!) said: >My theory on those two names - and this is based on nothing but my own >giant Irish-Catholic family - is that for many years, girls only got >named about nine things. So they had to call you something to >differentiate you from your 8,000 cousins. My grandmother Elizabeth was >a Dolly, and my great-aunt Elizabeth was a Libby, for example. There >were a Betsy and an Elizabeth-who-went-by-Elizabeth in that generation >as well. and why just women? In my own giant Irish-Catholic (originally) family, there are Jameses, Jays, Jims, Jimmys, Hamishes, and Seamuses. Which is why you'll occasionally catch me answering to Jamie. James a.k.a. "Emperor of Night, Known in some parts of the world as Hierophant of The Highway Thieves", apparently PS - ye ghods! The Quail returns! James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:55:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: weird game (O.T.) >You figure this one out. I got 13300. Marc > >http://grow.55street.net/ CC: "Three Girl Rhumba" Clearly, this person has some crossed musical allegiances. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:31:59 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: burpy burpy reap reap James, then Chris: >> now this is something I don't really get - can someone explain to me what >> it is with party membership in the US? Seems like just about everyone >> belongs to one of the parties. > > As Jeff already mentioned, voters usually chose a party when they register > to vote. It's entirely self-declared and doesn't imply any obligation to > support the party chosen, and the party itself has no control over who > "joins" in this fashion. In fact, it shouldn't be regarded as joining the > party at all; rather, one registers as a *supporter* of a party. Someone else may well have mentioned this, but while tooling about the archives, I didn't encounter it, so here goes: in addition to what Chris and Jeff have said, there are places in the U.S. where the dominance of one party is so assured that the *real* race is the party primary. For example, if the Democrats dominate, as they still do in most parts of my home state, West Virginia, the true contest is between the Democratic nominees in the primary election, rather than between the Dems and Republicans in November. West Virginia is also a "closed" primary state, i.e., during the primaries only registered members of the parties get to vote in their respective parties' primaries. So when I turned 18, I registered Democratic simply because registering Independent would have prevented me from voting in the Democratic primary. The state I live in now, Tennessee, has open primaries, which means that all the Republicans in the state could legally vote in the Democratic primary rather than the GOP primary, or, for that matter, the Dems could all vote in the Republican primary. However, you do have to pick one at the time of polling, you can't vote in both of them. So here, if GOP members had wanted to vote for Howard Dean, thinking that Dubya would have an easier time with him than Kerry, there's nothing stopping them from doing so. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:18:42 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: burpy burpy reap reap On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Miles Goosens wrote: > So here, if GOP members had wanted to vote for Howard Dean, thinking > that Dubya would have an easier time with him than Kerry, there's > nothing stopping them from doing so. That is, of course, an insane hypothetical. I can't imagine Kerry beating anyone in a national general election. On the one hand, I'm kind of worried. On the other hand, I'm kind of hoping the Democratic Party will just roll over and die so we can get a real opposition party. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:28:01 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: weird game (O.T.) >From: "Marc Holden" >"fegmaniax" , Subject: weird game (O.T.) >Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:46:44 -0700 >You figure this one out. I got 13300. Marc >http://grow.55street.net/ Wow, that is really odd. I guess I somehow(how I can't tell you)suck at this. I got a 3,700! Level up, Max _________________________________________________________________ Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday. http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:27:06 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: weird game (O.T.) On Feb 29, 2004, at 9:28 AM, Maximilian Lang wrote: > Wow, that is really odd. I guess I somehow (how I can't tell you) > suck at this. I got a 3,700! Some of the things are elements and others are multipliers. Someone posted the (or maybe a) correct sequence on the message board at the main website. - - Steve __________ Variety reveals that Disney is negotiating with Yuen Wo Ping, choreographer of groundbreaking actioners The Matrix and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, to helm a live-action take on Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Penned by scribes Josh Harman and Scott Elder, the Snow update is set in the 1890s and follows a woman who returns home to Hong Kong to attend her father's funeral after 20 years abroad. She discovers that her stepmother is plotting against her and escapes to mainland China, where she seeks solace with seven Shao Lin monks who, in turn, come to believe the woman holds the fate of the world in her hands and protect her. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:02:37 -0500 From: "Christopher Carville" Subject: New version of RH 50th bit torrent available Hi- This just popped up at sharingthegroove.org http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&postid=578510#post 578510 It is an aud md master> flac transfer. Spread the word please. If anyone ever figures out if the version I seeded is from mp3, please let me know. C ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:05:59 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Dead fish at night; sailors sleep tight On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:48:24 +1300, "James Dignan" said: > The woman who doesn't answer to Elsie (we all missed that one!) That's what she looks like - they call her Natasha, though. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:10:03 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Dead fish at night; sailors sleep tight On Feb 29, 2004, at 2:05 PM, Fortissimo wrote: > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:48:24 +1300, "James Dignan" > said: > >> The woman who doesn't answer to Elsie (we all missed that one!) > > That's what she looks like - they call her Natasha, though. Oh sure - yet another Costello reference taunting me for missing him at The Beacon this past Thursday night (worked late due to client in town) First time i've missed him here in about 4 years. And with the Brodsky quartet too. *SIGH* Go Elvis and T-Bone tonight at the Academy Awards! And, "Gone Nutty", the sqrat short from the "Ice Age" DVD also nominated. - -Steve She gave a little flirt, gave herself a little cuddle But there's no place here for the mini-skirt waddle Capital punishment, she's last year's model ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:05:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Maybe something did change ... ...about the Howard Stern show right before he was dumped. Like his stance on Governor Bush. Stolen from our friends at Salon.com http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room//index.html#stern Pulling the plug on Howard What got Howard Stern pulled from six Clear Channel radio stations this week? The corporate line is that Howard is too raunchy for the radio giant. Clear Channel president John Hogan went up to the Hill and apologized to Congress for airing Howard's filth on the great American airwaves. Are Clear Channel executives just now tuning into the nation's most popular shock jock? After all, it's not like Howard Stern just recently got randy. Even Michigan GOP Rep. Fred Upton wondered why radio execs were so suddenly turning on Stern. "I don't think what (Stern) said this week was different from things he's said before," he said. "Why didn't you do this earlier? Has he actually changed his tune?" Hogan said: "I don't think he's changed his tune, but we've changed ours. We're going in a different direction at Clear Channel Radio." Clear Channel apparently got a nudge from a proposed $755,000 fine from the FCC, the biggest fine ever for indecent content. Clear Channel this week announced a "zero-tolerance" policy against trashy talk. But some Salon readers and webloggers are wondering if Clear Channel getting religion about Howard has anything to do with Stern's recent political change-of-heart. It was just recently that Stern started trashing President Bush, who he has strongly supported in the past. On the blog Music Angle Michael Fremer says: "On Tuesday, Stern took a strong stance against Bush, the Republican party and the strong stench of fascism and intolerance in the air when it comes to free speech and gay rights, among other things. John Hogan, president and CEO of Clear Channel is a strong Bush supporter. When the war in Iraq began, Clear Channel organized rallys supporting the action and actually banned John Lennon's 'Imagine' and anything by The B-52s. Hard to believe, but true. Stern has great sway over millions of listeners. His political stand is what got him thrown off Clear Channel's network of stations, not his supposed 'indecent' remarks towards women and blacks. This is a sickening development." If you've missed Howard, Robin and friends recently, MarksFriggin.com helpfully paraphrases every Stern radio show for you. On Monday, sometime after discussing his colonoscopy (he "didn't crap for two days") and playing parts of Stuttering John's audition tape for the Jay Leno show, Stern praised Al Franken's book, saying he might be an "anyone but Bush" guy now and that even Ralph Nader would be better. Is it really Stern's Bush-bashing, and not Clear Channel's kowtowing to the GOP Congress and FCC that got Howard yanked? Probably not, but the timing has some spinning theories. And Charlie Kuffner's Off the Kuff blog points out that while Clear Channel says it's interested in protecting us all from obscenity, the radio giant recently brought to Houston the conservative ranter Michael Savage, the guy MSNBC fired last year after he referred to a caller to his weekend cable TV show as a "sodomite" and that he should "get AIDS and die." Nice. - -- Geraldine Sealey ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! 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