From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #59 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, February 26 2004 Volume 13 : Number 059 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Scrubs (no Ralph Nader content) [Tom Clark ] Re: Scrubs (no Ralph Nader content) [Eb ] Reaching my Nader and I haven't an Idear of what to do.....(No Buzzcocks content) ["Cadtharsis" ] Re: official objection [fingerpuppets ] Re: official objection [Ken Weingold ] Re: official objection [fingerpuppets ] Re: official objection [Eb ] Re: official objection [fingerpuppets ] More bad album covers [Tom Clark ] Re: official objection [Capuchin ] Re: guess [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Scrubs (no Ralph Nader content) [Jeff Dwarf ] re: Ralph Nader [Eb ] REAP ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: REAP, well not quite yet so much. [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: REAP [Ken Weingold ] Re: REAP, well not quite yet so much. ["Maximilian Lang" ] RE: Tangle Goblinshimmer? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: official objection [fingerpuppets ] New Musik ["Brian" ] Re: guess [] RE: guess ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Tangle Goblinshimmer? ["Razorback_Hawg" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:53:49 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Scrubs (no Ralph Nader content) on 2/25/04 9:23 AM, Jeff Dwarf at munki1972@yahoo.com wrote: > Was Brendan Fraser on Scrubs before last night's episode? I > assume so, but it must have been before I watched it? > Besides being Dr. Cox's brother-in-law and I presume having > cancer, was there anything else particularly notable about > his previous appearance? I'm trying to avoid spoilers, so > I'm sorry if this all sounds vague. > He's been on a few times. The first was when he was diagnosed with Leukemia and went through a bout of denial. I thought that "gay chicken" scene was pretty funny last night. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:52:25 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Scrubs (no Ralph Nader content) > > Was Brendan Fraser on Scrubs before last night's episode? I >> assume so, but it must have been before I watched it? >> Besides being Dr. Cox's brother-in-law and I presume having >> cancer, was there anything else particularly notable about >> his previous appearance? I'm trying to avoid spoilers, so > > I'm sorry if this all sounds vague. > >He's been on a few times. The first was when he was diagnosed with Leukemia >and went through a bout of denial. I thought that "gay chicken" scene was >pretty funny last night. Amidst my weekly chaos of Tuesday TV-watching/taping, I neglected to tape "Scrubs" during "24." Phooey. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:47:23 -0700 From: "Cadtharsis" Subject: Reaching my Nader and I haven't an Idear of what to do.....(No Buzzcocks content) > out-of-touch radicals will vote for him in comparison to 2000 - I'm betting > that the ~50% that would have voted for Gore in 2000 had Nader not been in > the race will vote for the Democratic candidate whether or not Nader is on > the ballot or not. What you don't seem to understand is that 90%** of the people who voted for Nader, had Nader not been on the ballot, would have abstained or voted for Jello Biafra (http://www.angelfire.com/punk/jello2000/) or voted libertarian or written "Eric the 'alf a bee" in crayon on the ballot, or stayed home altogether patting themselves on the back for conserving energy. Nader voters are k00ks. He didn't steal votes, he brought people to the ballots who otherwise would not have been there. - - Bill **Source: PIOMA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:56:57 -0800 From: Eb Subject: official objection http://www.fegmania.org/archive.html This page still requires clicking on "2002" to read archives from *2003 and 2004*. This needs to be fixed. Like, months ago. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:00:35 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: official objection one time at band camp, Eb (ElBroome@earthlink.net) said: >http://www.fegmania.org/archive.html >This page still requires clicking on "2002" to read archives from >*2003 and 2004*. This needs to be fixed. Like, months ago. you know i haven't changed that just because it bugs the hell out of you, dear Eb. ;) +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:01:05 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: official objection On Wed, Feb 25, 2004, Eb wrote: > http://www.fegmania.org/archive.html > > This page still requires clicking on "2002" to read archives from > *2003 and 2004*. This needs to be fixed. Like, months ago. Plus a search function would be awesome. Any chance of adding that? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:03:01 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: official objection one time at band camp, Ken Weingold (bofh@unix.vi) said: >Plus a search function would be awesome. Any chance of adding that? yeah, i know. one of these days. i think when we switch to mj2, you might get that for free. +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:10:31 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: official objection > >http://www.fegmania.org/archive.html > >>This page still requires clicking on "2002" to read archives from >>*2003 and 2004*. This needs to be fixed. Like, months ago. > >you know i haven't changed that just because it bugs the hell out of >you, dear Eb. ;) Ruthless despot. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:13:18 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: official objection one time at band camp, Eb (ElBroome@earthlink.net) said: >> >http://www.fegmania.org/archive.html >> >>>This page still requires clicking on "2002" to read archives from >>>*2003 and 2004*. This needs to be fixed. Like, months ago. >> >>you know i haven't changed that just because it bugs the hell out of >>you, dear Eb. ;) >Ruthless despot. heartless troll. +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:18:51 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: More bad album covers I just love that Millie Jackson cover http://www.cenedella.com/stone/archives/000302.html http://www.cenedella.com/stone/archives/000590.html - -tc np: WZ - Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:52:55 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: official objection On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Ken Weingold wrote: > Plus a search function would be awesome. Any chance of adding that? I've probably asked this before, but are the digest archives the only available source of old list messages? I'm on this other mailing list that has changed list servers several times and we were lamenting the lack of a searchable archive and the public archives were, for some of the past, just like the feg archives. It's been kind of a mess. Anyway, this friend of mine just posted a sort of "call for archives" and now he has 10+ years of mailing list messages and is working on a system of archiving them with cross-referenced email addresses (for folks that have changed over the years) and retaining all the original sending headers (up to the list host). So... anybody got a forever-archive of feg? Surely there's at least one person on this list who deletes no mail. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:23:28 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: guess >> "Exit polls in states including Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New >> Hampshire, Oregon, Washington state and Wisconsin suggested that at >> least half the Nader voters would have voted for Gore if it had been a >> two-way race." meaning that in a two-horse race the other half would have done what? Did it ask whether they'd simply not vote, or would have voted for Bush? Unless that question is asked, you can't say anything about the majority. Also, as has been pointed out, this ain't the same question as "would you have voted for Gore if you thought that Bush would win by a handful of votes?" The reason for Gore's loss? Gore. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:27:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Scrubs (no Ralph Nader content) Eb wrote: >>> Was Brendan Fraser on Scrubs before last night's >>> episode? I assume so, but it must have been before I >>> watched it? Besides being Dr. Cox's brother-in-law and >>> I presume having cancer, was there anything else >>> particularly notable about his previous appearance? >>> I'm trying to avoid spoilers, so >>> I'm sorry if this all sounds vague. > > > >He's been on a few times. The first was when he was > >diagnosed with Leukemia and went through a bout of > >denial. I thought that "gay chicken" scene was > >pretty funny last night. Fraser taunting JD about JD having slept with both of his sisters was hysterical too, if a wee bit sick. Fraser was actually good. I can't recall ever seeing him be good in something before. (Same with Nicole Sullivan earlier this season). > Amidst my weekly chaos of Tuesday TV-watching/taping, I > neglected to tape "Scrubs" during "24." Phooey. That god for reruns, and fuck NBC for jerking "Scrubs" around so much this year, especially for The Donald's shite. At least there isn't much danger of it being cancelled because of it (just because they have too many holes to deal with with both "Friends" and "Frasier" leaving the air two (or more)years too late this year). You'd think a network that can't produce any new hits not called _Law and Order: Got Any More Ideas?_ would try and do a better job at cultivating the audience for the solid performers most likely to break. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:04:24 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: Ralph Nader MEMPHIS, Tennessee (AP) -- Estelle Axton, co-founder of the famed Stax Records Co., which generated hits from acts including Sam and Dave, Otis Redding Jr. and The Staple Singers, has died. She was 85. Axton died of natural causes Tuesday at the hospice at Saint Francis Hospital, said her son-in-law, Fred Fredrick. The musicians on the soul record label called Axton "Lady A," and others who knew her described her as a calming, nurturing presence in the Memphis neighborhood. "Were it not for her, there's no way Stax could have become what it became," said David Porter. Porter and Isaac Hayes co-wrote numerous Stax hits, including Sam and Dave's "Soul Man" and "Hold On, I'm Coming." Hayes said Axton was responsible for the racial harmony at Stax. "You didn't feel any backoff from her, no differentiation that you were black and she was white," Hayes said. "Being in a town where that attitude was plentiful, she just made you feel secure. ... She was like a mother to us all." Between 1960 and 1975, Stax's roster also included Booker T. and the MGs, Rufus Thomas, Albert King, Johnnie Taylor, The Mar-Keys and the Bar-Kays. Axton and other family members went on to establish the Fretone label which produced Rick Dees' 1977 hit "Disco Duck." Porter said Axton encouraged him and others in the Stax neighborhood after she mortgaged her home to help start the record company with her brother, Jim Stewart. Stax began as Satellite Records in 1957 but was forced to change the name because a California company already was using it. The siblings combined their last names -- the "St" from Stewart and the "Ax" from Axton -- to come up with Stax, which became a rival to Detroit's giant Motown sound in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Axton's daughter Doris Fredrick worked in the Stax record shop said her mother's experience as a teacher gave her a special nurturing ability. "She worked 12 hours a day. She had time for anybody that came through the door," Doris Fredrick said. "I'd say, 'I'm sorry she's booked today.' And she'd come out and say, 'Oh no, I have time for them. I'm never too busy' if it was the neighborhood kids or someone who wanted to play a song for her." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:46:57 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: REAP The Howard Stern Show! http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2004-02-25-stern-off_x.htm Hey, wasn't Private Parts on HBO II tonight? _________________________________________________________________ Say good-bye to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- free trial offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:56:54 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: REAP, well not quite yet so much. Maximilian Lang wrote: > The Howard Stern Show! > > http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2004-02-25-stern-off_x.htm > > Hey, wasn't Private Parts on HBO II tonight? Slow Down...He's only off the air of his Clear Channel affiliates. He will still be on the rest of them, as it's an Infinity produced show. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:59:43 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: REAP On Wed, Feb 25, 2004, Maximilian Lang wrote: > The Howard Stern Show! > > http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2004-02-25-stern-off_x.htm If this actually goes through, let's see how quickly another network picks it up. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 23:01:50 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: REAP, well not quite yet so much. >From: Jeff Dwarf >Reply-To: Jeff Dwarf >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: REAP, well not quite yet so much. >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:56:54 -0800 (PST) > >Maximilian Lang wrote: > > The Howard Stern Show! >Slow Down...He's only off the air of his Clear Channel >affiliates. He will still be on the rest of them, as it's >an Infinity produced show. doh!(Max slaps himself upside the head) _________________________________________________________________ Find and compare great deals on Broadband access at the MSN High-Speed Marketplace. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 01:22:54 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Tangle Goblinshimmer? Tangle Goblinshimmer James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:39:52 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: Tangle Goblinshimmer? >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) >Subject: Tangle Goblinshimmer? >Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 01:22:54 +1300 > >Tangle Goblinshimmer Columbine Goblintree Max _________________________________________________________________ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:49:33 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: Tangle Goblinshimmer? - --On Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2004 7:39 Uhr -0500 Maximilian Lang wrote: >> From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) >> Subject: Tangle Goblinshimmer? >> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 01:22:54 +1300 > >> > >> Tangle Goblinshimmer > > Columbine Goblintree Your fairy is called Feather Elffrost She is a cheerful sprite She lives in high places where the clouds meet the earth She is only seen during the first snow of winter I like mine! - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Tangle Goblinshimmer? Maximilian Lang wrote: > grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) wrote: > > > > >Tangle Goblinshimmer > > Columbine Goblintree Oh shit, Max's fairy has a gun!!! Tangle Elffly. I think we're starting to run out of these little alternate name thingies. Once they get your appropriate ex-Cure, I think were set. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:48:01 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: official objection one time at band camp, Capuchin (capuchin@bitmine.net) said: >I've probably asked this before, but are the digest archives the only >available source of old list messages? yes and no. i have a complete mbox archive from february 1998 onwards. prior to that, in addition to the digests, i have some incomplete mbox archives, plus my old e-mail box (never cleaning that out has had some unintended benefits!) and some other stuff here and there. i also have a vaxmail (or something) archive of the posts mitchell dickerson found "interesting" and saved which goes back to the beginnings of the list back on pebbles.sct.clarkson.edu in 1991. i should clean that up and post it on fegmania -- some interesting reading in there. >So... anybody got a forever-archive of feg? that would be most swell. actually, i can think of one person who just might still have all the posts until she left the list in 96 or so. i shall check. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:51:56 -0500 From: "Brian" Subject: New Musik While do a search on Captain Sensible a few weeks ago I came across this Tony Mansfield sight: http://home.tiscali.se/musicworld/mansfield.html which led me to read this article (quite long!): http://home.tiscali.se/musicworld/mansfield-croft.html written by Simon Croft -who was actually the bassist for the Monochrome Set for a short while, but now pens techie articles on music gear. I was so intrigued by Simon's article I decided to track down some New Musik. I got 'From A to B' last night. I've listen to it 3 times already. Pop genius! How is it that I never heard of this band? Have I been *that* sheltered? Was this stuff every once know? I rate this stuff up there with the early dB's records, though it's completely different -but I think it's that good. Imagine 12 string guitar over real tight rhythms in a new wavey way or if you want, listen to sound clips here: Holy Shighsta! That cd is now $28.49. What the?- A few weeks ago I got it there for only $13.98. Weird. I'll stop my ramblin' now... I've got to listen to this cd again! - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:20:30 -0500 From: Subject: Re: guess [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:23 , grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) sent: >The reason for Gore's loss? Gore. jeez, just when you thought the list appreciated you as conciliatory and agreeable you had to ruin it. gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:30:33 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: guess - -----Original Message----- From: gshell@americangroupisp.com [mailto:gshell@americangroupisp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:21 AM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: guess [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:23 , grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) sent: >The reason for Gore's loss? Gore. I'll agree with that. If you can't even take your home state, then something was wrong with your campaign strategy. Michael B. NP Tierney Sutton Dancing In The Dark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:52:04 -0500 From: "Razorback_Hawg" Subject: Re: Tangle Goblinshimmer? Your fairy is called Bramble Goblindancer=20 =20 She is a bringer of riches and wealth=20 =20 She lives in leafy dells and bluebell glades=20 =20 She is only seen when the bees swarm and the crickets chirrup=20 =20 so where are my riches and wealth? i guess i need to find those leafy dells and bluebell = glades...........lol ; ) Laura=20 gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 1x1.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: three more political notes On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Bachman, Michael wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:23 , grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) sent: > > >The reason for Gore's loss? Gore. > > I'll agree with that. If you can't even take your home state, > then something was wrong with your campaign strategy. Gah! Why will no one pick up my brilliant "stool" analogy? Gore's loss was like a three-legged stool: remove any of the legs and the stool won't stand. One leg was Gore's weak campaign strategy and personal style, sure, but another was Nader's candidacy. Remove *either* leg and the stool would fall over, ie, Gore would have won. (The third leg would be Republican dirty tricks, naturally.) C'mon, folks, respect the stool! As long as I'm violating my promise to myself to shut up about all this, here's an article that quotes Nader *himself* as saying he took about 38% of his votes from Democrats. That's about the lowest figure that I've seen, but even that figure means Nader's votes deprived Gore of the margin of victory in Florida and New Hampshire. Scroll down to the section beginning "The Trojan Horse": http://www.prospect.org/campaigndispatches/ And on the other side, here's an article ripping into the Republican claim, repeated here by Ferris, that Kerry consistently voted against military and intelligence programs: http://slate.msn.com/id/2096127/ (Of course, the truth about Kerry's voting record on defense may improve him in Ferris' eyes but hurt him further in those of the Naderites. Oh, well.) - --Chris np: Iron Maiden, _Live After Death_ ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #59 *******************************