From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #47 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 17 2004 Volume 13 : Number 047 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: feelies (was RH in Tucson, Pylon) [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Concert report(s) [Capuchin ] Re: OT: very, very neat picture of manhattan ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Bunnymen Ripped Off [Miles Goosens ] Re: in the interests of [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:09:09 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: feelies (was RH in Tucson, Pylon) - -- Maximilian Lang is rumored to have mumbled on Dienstag, 10. Februar 2004 21:30 Uhr -0500 regarding Re: feelies (was RH in Tucson, Pylon): > I wasn't but I saw them on these dates: > > at Maxwell's 6/25/88 > Feelies/Wishniaks, Theatre of Living Arts 12/4/88 > Lou Reed/Feelies, Tower Theatre, 3/16/89 > at Maxwell's, 7/8/89 Too early for me :-) That year I've only seen them in Europe. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:32:06 -0600 From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_M=FAmesque?= > From: Scott Hunter McCleary > Subject: Re: Statuesque > > Thinking this new Sigur Ros EP sounds a lot like their countrymen > Mzm. Is that the equivalent of saying, "Hi, Mary?" ;) Have you heard the new Mzm album, Summer Make Good? It's not as airy and delicate as their earlier stuff, but it is worth hearing. I'm sure glad I saw Mzm live when both sisters were still in the band. The new Stereolab album is another perfect analog bon-bon too, I might add. And lately, when i want stare-at-the-dragonflies-at-night music, I turn to The Album Leaf. NP: Shaving is Boring, Hatfield and the North ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:35:54 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #46 >Can you guess how Abelardo Morell did this? > beautiful. reminds me of my old school's movie theatre, which was an old prefabricated classroom with the windows painted black. Except there was a coin-sized hole in the paint on one of the windows. I can remember our physicas class goin in there on a sunny day and watching images of people walk across the ceiling. Mind you, the exposure on Morell's photo must have been very long! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:14:09 -0500 From: Scott Hunter McCleary Subject: Re: OT: very, very neat picture of manhattan He's got the style it takes, if one frame at a time. I think I'd rather follow the lead of the guy who bought the surplus mail truck and turned it into a pinhole camera. Any other Fegs doing Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day this year? - -- ========= When Air National Guard absentee George W. Bush dressed up in Cruise's "Top Gun" costume and used the USS Abraham Lincoln as a giant, nuclear-powered strap-on, that was as brazen an exhibition of cross-dressing as there's ever been. -- Mark Simpson SH McCleary Prodigal Dog Communications PO Box 6163 Arlington, VA 22206 shmac@prodigaldog.com www.prodigaldog.com www.1480kHz.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:05:46 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Concert report(s) Went to Spaceland last night.... I was going to see Swell, playing their first L.A. show in quite awhile. The concession guy told me it had been at least five years. I've been a Swell fan from the beginning but had only seen the band once before ("41" era, around 1994?), and I honestly don't recall skipping a local Swell show since then. On Sunday morning, the LA Times had a large feature story about Elliott Smith. It included talk about a makeshift Smith "shrine" in Silverlake. I feel stupid, because I never knew until now that the Figure 8 cover was a snapshot taken in front of a Silverlake audio store (called "Solutions"). I always thought that the tri-color swirl was simply the creation of someone in Geffen's art department! I took a little drive up Sunset Boulevard before the show, just to see if I could easily find the spot. I did, and eyemarked it to visit later. I arrived at Spaceland a bit late, around 10:15. I missed the first band, a group called the Red Thread. Is anyone a fan? I believe the band is on the Badman label (which also recently reissued some early Swell material). The second group, Ill Lit, was partially through its set when I entered. An intelligent male guitar-bass-drums trio, somewhat in the Luna mode. The lyrics seemed to have some interesting details, but the presentation was a bit homely. Perhaps the group comes off better in the studio, with production help. The second band, the Low Flying Owls, was quite popular with the crowd and had a polished, rocking stage show. In particular, the shaggy bassist had some ankle-swiveling footwork which was lots of fun to watch. One guitarist doubled on occasional keyboard. I grew tired of the sound, however. The roots were in buzzy '60s punk, but the music was too focused on one-note droning. As a result, the tunes weren't hypnotic enough to fit into the Spacemen 3 school, but not melodic enough to fit with, say, the Standells. The group held my attention, however. Swell went on late, about 12:15am. About a quarter of the crowd left after the Low Flying Owls, seemingly. Swell's singing was a bit shaky onstage, but I still really enjoy the unique, shuffling grooves of the songs. As with the previous band, the lefthand guitarist also doubled on keyboard at times. Despite not giving my Swell CDs as much listening time as I should, I was surprised at how many songs seemed immediately familiar -- even though I couldn't recall the titles at all. At least two songs were from Too Many Days Without Thinking, which I still think is one of *the* underrated albums of the '90s. I noted with some satisfaction that the concession guy was pushing this disc on new fans who asked for starter recommendations. Swell played around 50 minutes, and left the stage with no hope for an encore. Pre-recorded music began at almost the moment the group stepped down. After the show, I went back to the Ellliot Smith shrine and contemplated it for awhile. The now-famous swirl of the Solutions shop's facade is covered with touching fan testimonies -- must have been at least 75 or 80 of them. One simple sentiment touched me the most: someone simply sighing "I loved you, and you never even knew." Aww. Only saw one item on the entire wall of a sarcastic, disrespectful nature. There were also about 20 candles on the pavement in front of the shop (about 80% still lit), along with some other trivial things like a stuffed Carebear critter and, oh yeah, a small copy of the New Testament. The shop is very close to the Akbar, which I've heard is one of Rufus Wainwright's favorite hangs. Also stopped for a quick donut at a place across the street, and found two intense *chess games* underway at 1:30 in the morning. Interesting little bit of subculture, there. - --- While I'm here, let me just quickly mention a previous show which I didn't get around to writing up. I absolutely *adored* the recent Fiery Furnaces show at the Echo. As I joked to a friend at the show, "I always like pop on stupid instruments." I think the Furnaces may be geniuses, though I'll need another album or two to be sure. Brother Matt even used *my* old synthesizer, the Roland Juno 60. Only the second group I've ever seen use it onstage. The first, being Cibo Matto. I briefly chatted with him after the show, and he got all animated on the subject of his gear and started raving about why he loves that keyboard. Heh. And surprisingly, Cibo Matto is apparently a direct influence on his choice of instrument. The first time I heard the Fiery Furnaces, I heard the amazingly Feargal Sharkey-like vocals and assumed the singer was an effeminate man. Onstage, "he" turned out to be the dead opposite -- a somewhat mannish woman with a face in the Patti Smith/Amanda Plummer mold. I loved watching her. She projects the calm intensity of someone operating on her own private wavelength. Eyes a million miles deep, looking out but seeing nothing. Had a cute way of hopping around in exhilaration, when the mood struck her. I feel like I'm still working to absorb the album's detailed, rambling lyrics, but the music was utterly charming. A heavy carnivalesque flavor, bolstered by the two keyboardists' wacky patches. Imagine the sensibilties of Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, Quasi and the Elephant 6 school, filtered through classic Dylan blues tunes like "Subterranean Homesick Blues," "Maggie's Farm" and "Motorpsycho Nightmare." Loved it, loved it, loved it. Add the Furnaces to my short list of bands whom I'd like to see, any time they come through town. The headliner was another indie-rock critics fave, Ted Leo & the Pharmacists. I respected them, but wasn't personally grabbed. I made myself stay for the entire set (minus encore, possibly), but was feeling impatient for the end. The group mixes a modern punk-pop sound with the older Costello/Graham Parker/Joe Jackson school. Fine sense of song construction, but samey. The group had zesty stage moves, and Leo e-nun-ci-ates with remarkable care. Witty between-song banter. Not much else to say. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:47:46 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Concert report(s) On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Eb wrote: > Also stopped for a quick donut at a place across the street, and found > two intense *chess games* underway at 1:30 in the morning. There are several (if not MANY) coffee shops in this town that are sure to have an intense chess game or two going at any given hour. Some are downright chess hotspots. I've been playing quite a bit of chess lately. It's a great game because the competition is entirely internalized. Your "opponent" is really only there to push you into trying harder. There is so little shame and ridicule in loss that it's actually more common for a player to simply resign than to try to play out for some lucky break. Every game is like a new and interesting puzzle. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:47:17 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: OT: very, very neat picture of manhattan Scott Hunter McCleary wrote: > > Any other Fegs doing Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day this year? You know I am. I'll probably give my amazingly impractical CartonCams a try this year -- they have exposure times measured in hours, and are single-shot. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:38:37 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Bunnymen Ripped Off I'm forwarding this in case anyone here had ordered something from the E&TB and was wondering what happened. I guess the only reason I received my order was I kept bugging him about it. Makes you appreciate how David Greensberger handles things for Robyn. And then pissed that it can't just be taken for granted. And may Ivan Smith get what's coming to him. Echo & The Bunnymen News wrote: > Hi I am sending this out to you just in case you have > place an order for merchandise via www.bunnymen.com & > have not yet received your items. > > The following statement was made by the bands management > last week. > > I hope these matters will not affect you from placing > orders in the future & from visiting the website. > > Cheers > Peter > > "Bunnymen Merchandising" > > We would like to apologise to all 'bunnymen.com' users > who ordered merchandise over the last 6 > months............ Ivan Smith, our former 'web-master', > was entrusted by Ian & Will to operate the site and > shop. Unfortunately this trust was betrayed, by him > stealing the money you paid into the bunnymen 'paypal'. > > We have tried very hard over the last few months to > resolve this issue. Ivan has ignored all out attempts to > contact him. > > We even suggested to Ivan to forget the money - but at > least let us have the orders, so we wouldn't let the fans > down. The orders did not materialise. > > So - once again, our apologies. We would like to > request that anyone who ordered merchandise, should > forward their 'paypal' receipt to peteandpeasy@hotmail.com > > We will then fulfil the outstanding orders immediately. > > Obviously, we expect Ivan to take down 'bunnymen.com' (as > he has all the access passwords). However we will be > making an announcement soon, regarding the new 'official' > bunnymen site. > > yours > Pete & Peasy ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 07:50:23 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Bunnymen Ripped Off Jeff Dwarf: >I'm forwarding this in case anyone here had ordered >something from the E&TB and was wondering what happened. I >guess the only reason I received my order was I kept >bugging him about it. Makes you appreciate how David >Greensberger handles things for Robyn. And then pissed that >it can't just be taken for granted. And may Ivan Smith get >what's coming to him. While I hate this for fans who ordered things from bunnymen.com, somewhere Julian Cope is remembering a heap of cargo netting and laughing his ass off. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:53:06 -0500 From: Subject: Re: in the interests of [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] >http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/> yeah, so maybe we should all buy those fuel line attachments that will increase gas mileage by up to 27%. i wonder why the car dealers don't sell things like this as $500 add-ons? people buy them. in my opinion more in the interests of fair debate, what is more offensive, to those of you who are so offended, the Outkast performance or the Kansas City Chiefs? there was such a fuss over the difference between cowboys, wolverines, chiefs and 49ers, i'm surprised the topic hasn't already caused someone to unsubscribe and tell me why. gSs - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #47 *******************************