From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #32 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 30 2004 Volume 13 : Number 032 Today's Subjects: ----------------- REAP [Steve Talkowski ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] the wilco revolving door ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Rail wider, band interactions, and reaps [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Di] Wasn't "Beards Are Cool" a Teenage Fanclub song? ["Rex.Broome" ] Yet another online worldview test [steve ] Re: Rail wider, band interactions, and reaps ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Iron and Wine and Tinfoil ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Confederacy of Dunces, A (2004) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Yet another online worldview test ["Brian" ] Re: Confederacy of Dunces, A (2004) [] RE: Confederacy of Dunces, A (2004) ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] Re: Iron and Wine and Tinfoil ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Hacked G5 [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Hacked G5 [Caroline Smith ] Re: Yet another online worldview test [steve ] They really are Nigerian! [Tom Clark ] Re: Hacked G5 [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:26:51 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: REAP Disney's greedy relationship with Pixar, that is... http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040129/media_pixar_disney_5.html More power to the content creators! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:49:56 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Rikki Fulton, 79. If you're not Scottish, you might remember him as the ultra-grim Maj. Pribluda of the KGB in the movie "Gorky Park". If you are Scottish, you'll remember him as the guy who did "Scotch & Wry" on Hogmanay every year. "This is affae good watter ..." If you're Glaswegian, you'll remember him as the King of Pantomime, also as half of the comedy duo Francie & Josie, and also a gifted interpreter of Moliere in has adaptations of the plays to Scottish settings. My parents will be in mourning. One of the comedy greats has passed. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:24:56 -0800 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: the wilco revolving door >Apparently Leroy Bach is toast. I'm way ahead of you, boy... :) >"I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" painted Jay Bennett as a psycho, and >Jeff Tweedy as a sensitive saint. But Jay's long gone now. Well... not really, they both came off as kind of passive-aggressive jerks, it's just that Jay Bennett was much more annoying about it. And yeah, the "Heavy Metal Drummer" argument was pretty painful, especially when capped off with the infamous puking scene. gnat "Hey, man, save a tree!" the gnatster _________________________________________________________________ There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:16:50 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Rail wider, band interactions, and reaps >I don't know if that movie was one word or two, but whoever said that that >little girl couldn't act, well, has never spent any time with 12-year-old >girls. She was wonderful. The scene in which she reads her little essay >about her grandfather was so moving that I soaked the sleeve of my shirt >because I didn't have tissues with me. There were no grand, sweeping >gestures in that movie (a la LOTR), but there was quiet beauty. I thought >the woman who played the grandmother was superb as well. Vicki Haughton, one of only three well-known actors in the cast. Many of the cast are not well known even here in NZ - a lot of the minor roles, in particular, were played by local actors - Ngati Porou Maori, I think (that's the main iwi (tribe) in the area where the film is set. I've actually been through Whangara, a tiny settlement between the city of Gisborne and sleepy seaside holiday spot of Tolaga Bay, in NZ's far northwest). Rawiri Paratene (Koro) and Cliff Curtis (Porourangi) were the only other really well-known actors involved. >> You think so? I mean, yeah, the movie clearly gave Tweedy more room to >> make his case - but I thought Bennett came off just fine: yes, he had >> strong ideas, but they were clearly backed by a high level of musical >> intelligence, and to me, it's just that they disagreed and ended up being >> unable to communicate. That argument over the intro to "Heavy Metal >> Drummer" ranks as the second- or third-most painful recorded band >> interaction I've witnessed. (The other two are any number of moments in >> the "Let It Be" film, and the recorded dialogue about the drum part >> appended to the recent reissue of "The Notorious Byrd Brothers.") > >Don't forget the "everybody knows you don't do heavy metal in doubly" scene >in Spinal Tap! Oh, and pretty much all of The Song Remains The Same... so you've never heard R&L Thompson's album "Shoot out the lights" or Fleetwood Mac's album "Rumours", then? James PS - dammit, I can't even beat Eb to reporting a reap when the person in question only lives/d two miles away! He even announced it before local news did here in Dunedin. I give up! James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:37:59 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Wasn't "Beards Are Cool" a Teenage Fanclub song? Miles: >>there are things in this world about which I can no longer be upset. >>* Lists of top films, movies, etc., compiled by organizations Preach it, brother. >>* Teenybopper bands. I'm still confused as to where people even hear this stuff! If you've got teenage kids, or work at the Gap or something, I can see why you might get exposed to it, but otherwise... it just confuses me, those wacky Amazon custoomer reviews where someone's talking about, like, the Marquee Moon reissue and feels the need to take a swipe at Christina Aguilera. "If you like real music and not teenybopper crap, this record is for you!" Makes my brain sieze up. I never hear this stuff. It's a nonissue. >>* Awards shows. Word. >>a bodacious post-partum Mary Louise Parker Her joke about that was great. Made lot of moms happy, and earned her $1000 from Janel Maloney, apparently. JeFFrey: >>That argument over the intro to "Heavy Metal >>Drummer" ranks as the second- or third-most painful recorded band >>interaction I've witnessed. (The other two are any number of moments >>inthe "Let It Be" film, and the recorded dialogue about the drum part >>appended to the recent reissue of "The Notorious Byrd Brothers.") Hey... no love for the legendary Troggs tape? "What about a fucking twelve-string on this tune?" Actually, the most painful examples are always the ones on your own rehearsal tapes... Gene: >>Are beards cool now? Natalie says the ion storms are acting up, so all of these bearded people are clearly transplants from the Mirror Universe. Also, they are evil. Unless they're evil in this universe, in which case the beard guys are good. - -Rex, unbearded since late summer, maintaining the leading edge of uncool as usual... np. Democratic debate... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:45:32 -0600 From: steve Subject: Culture Alert for NYC Fegs The new dub of Porco Rosso is showing at the New York International Children's Film Festival - - Steve __________ Ladies and gentlemen I want to impress upon you that the battle that we're in is a spiritual battle. Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army. - Lt. General William G. "Jerry" Boykin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:52:11 -0600 From: steve Subject: Yet another online worldview test My score was minus 80, and I went most wrong in religion, family, and law. See you in Hell. - - Steve __________ halcyon wacky ella chelate whim muriel indiscreet adelaide johannes cotton gunther capacity aspersion electret pagan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:36:04 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Rail wider, band interactions, and reaps On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:16:50 +1300, "James Dignan" said: > >> You think so? I mean, yeah, the movie clearly gave Tweedy more room to > >> make his case - but I thought Bennett came off just fine: yes, he had > >> strong ideas, but they were clearly backed by a high level of musical > >> intelligence, and to me, it's just that they disagreed and ended up being > >> unable to communicate. That argument over the intro to "Heavy Metal > >> Drummer" ranks as the second- or third-most painful recorded band > >> interaction I've witnessed. (The other two are any number of moments in > >> the "Let It Be" film, and the recorded dialogue about the drum part > >> appended to the recent reissue of "The Notorious Byrd Brothers.") > > > >Don't forget the "everybody knows you don't do heavy metal in doubly" scene > >in Spinal Tap! Oh, and pretty much all of The Song Remains The Same... > > so you've never heard R&L Thompson's album "Shoot out the lights" or > Fleetwood Mac's album "Rumours", then? I at least was talking about recorded conversation - not songs about interband concerns... - --------------------------- J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:29:13 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Yet another online worldview test On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, steve wrote: > > > > My score was minus 80, and I went most wrong in religion, family, and > law. Yeah, I got a -7. I had to go with the "no opinion" whenever the statement was a fucking absurdity to which either agreeing or disagreeing was total nonsense. (e.g., "American founding fathers violated New Testament principles when they founded America." -- what kind of ignorant bullshit is that?) Science and Family were my great deviating sections (though I was never any closer to their view than their so-called "Secular Humanist Worldview" and only just crossed the threshold into that). I think I came out dead 0 on Religion. These guys are really fucked. They seem to pick and choose between the Old and New Testaments at will. They don't see how Christ was clearly preaching AGAINST what the Old Testament's God is said to support. But we all know where that got HIM. Yeah, nailed to a fucking tree. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:04:02 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Iron and Wine and Tinfoil Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > > Are beards cool now? Well, my ill-advised facial hair has weathered the test of time. Stewart (who got re-elected to the board of WindShare again. Yay!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:21:29 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Confederacy of Dunces, A (2004) Will Ferrell as Ignatius J. Reilly? wtf?! Mind you, Mos Def as Jones almost makes up for it. Tho' I don't really see Mos Def as appearing to be from Guildford, since he's playing Ford Prefect in the h2g2 movie. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:22:21 -0500 From: Caroline Smith Subject: another reason for a Canadian fegmeet I think Stewart suggested a Canadian fegmeet a few weeks ago... http://www.cbc.ca/mondayreport/videos/ontario.html Though Barbara might suggest that BC is a better meeting place, but where's their video? Now, what was I doing....? ; ) Hurray for Friday. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:44:49 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Yet another online worldview test > > steve: > > > > My score was minus 80, and I went most wrong in religion, > family, and > > law. > > Capuchin: > > Yeah, I got a -7. What a trip! Scoring anything below a 0 rates you as a "Communist/Marxist/Socialist/Secular Humanist Worldview Thinker," which seems apt. I'm sporting a +35, which lands me smack in the middle of the "Secular Humanist Worldview Thinker" pool. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:20:47 -0500 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Yet another online worldview test > > My score was minus 80, and I went most wrong in religion, family, and > law. > See you in Hell. Drinks on me! Nuppy: Your classification is: Communist/Marxist/Socialist/Secular Humanist Worldview Thinker Your score is: -50 points of 170 possible, -29% - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Yet another online worldview test steve wrote: > > > > My score was minus 80, and I went most wrong in religion, > family, and law. - -62, mostly because I kept insisting on not having an opinion on any of the "the bible says [blah]" questions. Of course, the whole fucking quiz is beyond illiteracy. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:02:14 -0500 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Yet another online worldview test On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:33:40 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Dwarf" said: > steve wrote: > > > -62, mostly because I kept insisting on not having an > opinion on any of the "the bible says [blah]" questions. Of > course, the whole fucking quiz is beyond illiteracy. Plus, what's the point in having a test/grade system with negative scores and percentages? - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:25:17 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: RE: Yet another online worldview test I got -47, dut I don't know how I'm supposed to feel about that. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:28:08 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: another reason for a Canadian fegmeet On Fri, Jan 30, 2004, Caroline Smith wrote: > > http://www.cbc.ca/mondayreport/videos/ontario.html That is AWESOME! I also love Geddy Lee's winter tips. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:35:10 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Confederacy of Dunces, A (2004) [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] the chubby hotdog guy! great book. thanks for the remind. i read the book years ago while i was in jail. i had forgotten the title but remembered the story and recall seeing the name a number of times before. but it wasn't until I saw the title on the subject line of your note that it clicked. time for a second reading. there is a first print on ebay with 16 bids now at $1775. i'll go to a used book store. On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:21 , Stewart C. Russell sent: >Will Ferrell as Ignatius J. Reilly? >wtf?! - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:36:48 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Confederacy of Dunces, A (2004) > Will Ferrell as Ignatius J. Reilly? wtf?! > I think Ferrell will be great in the role! Not as well cast as Phillip Seymour Hoffman would have been though. However, what really has me excited is the fact that David Gordon Green is directing. Both George Washington and All the Real Girls were truly special films. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:51:52 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Iron and Wine and Tinfoil I feel your pain - I loved my beard, but Chrissy was one of the only people without much positive to say on the subject - I'm now clean shaven and *forbidden* to grow another! Well, until I go completely white-haired when I will adopt the Gandalf look, no matter what anyone says! Cheers Matt >From: Capuchin Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > > Are beards cool now? I hope so, cause I don't feel like shaving anytime > > soon >I didn't shave through December and a couple weeks on either side. I'm >not admitting to full beardness, but I had a whole lot of facial hair for >a while... > >And I must say that I got exactly one positive comment, lots of >indifference, and a whole lot of bitching from Vivien. > >Um... no comment. > >J. >-- >_______________________________________________ > >Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Personalise your e-mails with photos, expressive graphics and stationery - - sign up for MSN 8 today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:55:41 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Hacked G5 Collective sigh-of-relief from all Mac purists out there. Here's the follow up: > --A friend sent me the following in reply to the G5 link: > > Ed NOTE: I just received this email from Andy: > > "I have been feeling a little guilty about causing so many people out > there to have nightmares, depression and sickness from my little joke. > The reaction of people word wide has blown me away. I never intended > for such a thing to happen. > > My in box went from 1% to 100% in 2 days (1300 messages). So many > people were pointing out what a stupid thing to do, so many people > were telling me of feeling sick, some even said they cried. I felt bad > for those people. It was amusing to read things like "I should be hung > by my testicles and lit on fire" or the constant reference to "Taking > a Porsche and replacing the engine with a KIAs". Most people cried out > in horror and carefully pointed out the error of doing such a silly > thing. > > I am sure you are wondering why this all took place. > > Are the pictures real? Yes. > Is it my own G5 case that has been cut and hacked? Yes. > Did I give away two G5 2GHz processors (IBM PC 970)? No! > So what happened? > > I got a free G5 shell from a buddy of mine and pulled a prank on a Mac > loving friend. He got so upset. I wrote up a little story, my > imagination and warped sense of humor kicked in. I sent it to OC.com > just to see the reaction. I honestly didn't think it was going to be > posted. I cannot believe how fast or how far it has spread on the > internet. There are an amazing number of people who are emotionally > attached to inanimate objects such as computers. Mac fans seem to be > much worse that I ever expected. The G5 is amazing, I would never > dream of really doing that ;) > > Andy - G5 Killer" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:12:59 -0500 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: Hacked G5 It was more his idiocy than anything else that shocked me... Funny though. I completely believed it. c. On Jan 30, 2004, at 12:55 PM, Steve Talkowski wrote: > Collective sigh-of-relief from all Mac purists out there. > > Here's the follow up: > >> --A friend sent me the following in reply to the G5 link: >> >> Ed NOTE: I just received this email from Andy: >> >> "I have been feeling a little guilty about causing so many people out >> there to have nightmares, depression and sickness from my little >> joke. The reaction of people word wide has blown me away. I never >> intended for such a thing to happen. >> >> My in box went from 1% to 100% in 2 days (1300 messages). So many >> people were pointing out what a stupid thing to do, so many people >> were telling me of feeling sick, some even said they cried. I felt >> bad for those people. It was amusing to read things like "I should be >> hung by my testicles and lit on fire" or the constant reference to >> "Taking a Porsche and replacing the engine with a KIAs". Most people >> cried out in horror and carefully pointed out the error of doing such >> a silly thing. >> >> I am sure you are wondering why this all took place. >> >> Are the pictures real? Yes. >> Is it my own G5 case that has been cut and hacked? Yes. >> Did I give away two G5 2GHz processors (IBM PC 970)? No! >> So what happened? >> >> I got a free G5 shell from a buddy of mine and pulled a prank on a >> Mac loving friend. He got so upset. I wrote up a little story, my >> imagination and warped sense of humor kicked in. I sent it to OC.com >> just to see the reaction. I honestly didn't think it was going to be >> posted. I cannot believe how fast or how far it has spread on the >> internet. There are an amazing number of people who are emotionally >> attached to inanimate objects such as computers. Mac fans seem to be >> much worse that I ever expected. The G5 is amazing, I would never >> dream of really doing that ;) >> >> Andy - G5 Killer" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:21:35 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Yet another online worldview test On Jan 30, 2004, at 8:33 AM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > -62, mostly because I kept insisting on not having an > opinion on any of the "the bible says [blah]" questions. Of > course, the whole fucking quiz is beyond illiteracy. You've got to think like a Christian Fundamentalist (insert joke here). - - Steve __________ Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to impeach the president. - Bruce Springsteen, on George W. Bush ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:51:23 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: They really are Nigerian! Who knew? http://apnews.myway.com//article/20040130/D80D94BG0.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:06:00 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Hacked G5 On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Caroline Smith wrote: > It was more his idiocy than anything else that shocked me... Funny > though. I completely believed it. I knew it was a joke, but that shadow of a doubt did shake me up a bit. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #32 *******************************