From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #30 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, January 28 2004 Volume 13 : Number 030 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Iiii'm baaack!/looking for info [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Legends of the South Wight: The Glass Hotel. [grutness@surf4nix.com (] Re: Oscars and Threw it away [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Music at the Oscars [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Oscars and Threw it away [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Oscar nominations come out [Capuchin ] Yup ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Oscar nominations come out [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Oscar nominations come out ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Oscar nominations come out [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Oscar nominations come out [Miles Goosens ] Re: St. Genevieve ["Fortissimo" ] I agree with Miles again! ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: St. Genevieve [Tom Clark ] Re: St. Genevieve [Miles Goosens ] Re: Oscar nominations come out [Eb ] New Usenet reader from Panic <-RH+OSX+EB> [Steve Talkowski ] New Usenet reader from Panic (-RH+OSX+EB) [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Oscar nominations come out ["Fortissimo" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:34:03 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Iiii'm baaack!/looking for info I'm back, and I bet you didn't even notice I'd gone. My ISP went foom on Friday, and I couldn't get email messages in or out from my grutness account until this morning. Looking through recent digests online, I note that Craigie* replied to my request for info on a band... >Re: looking for info... > >i *think* this may be Jebediah.... > >Number One has these lyrics... > >"[...]" nope, that's not it. This one was definitely *I* threw it away. Something like "I threw it away on the ocean, and I threw it away on the sea" The original info one more time: >> looking for info on an odd but oddly endearing artist. >> >> I've heard two songs. A slowish one which seems to be called "Threw it >> away", and one with a gleeful chorus about "going underground, down next to >> your next of kin". >> >> The sound is new-wavey - the original new wave: gloriously unslick, and it >> sounds like they're having fun working out what the instruments can do. >> It's early B-52s/Talking Heads-ish, and the singer sounds like the bastard >> daughter of Tom Verlaine. Yet somehow it feels a little more recent. And >> here's the kicker clue - the main instruments include accordion. >> >> The questions: who is this? Are they still recording? Any recommendations? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:34:07 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Legends of the South Wight: The Glass Hotel. >Subject: > >Sheesh, nothing out of me for years and then all of a sudden..! > >This is just to let y'all know I made some general updates to the Glass >Hotel... it was about time, too! > >Several links pages have been cleaned up, so click with confidence. > >If you can think of anything that needs changing or want something added >to it, let me know! This site was made for you! > >http://glasshotel.net/gh oo. Good work! As to adding things to it, I suppose you could add a link to my website on the laboratory page (the addy is in the sig file below) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:50:37 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Oscars and Threw it away > I was hoping that Scarlett Johannson would get nominated for Lost in >Translation in one of the actress categories. Oh well. I am glad that >Keisha Castle-Hughes from The Whale Rider got nominated for Best Actress. NZ's gone a bit Oscar-mad this year, what with LOTR:ROTK, Whale Rider and (NZ-born) Russell Crowe. >> nope, that's not it. This one was definitely *I* threw it away. >> Something >> like "I threw it away on the ocean, and I threw it away on the sea" >oh ... > >"I threw it away on the ocean >And then I threw it away on the sky >So what do I need with the ocean >And what do I need with the sky?" > >That would be "Threw it Away" off of L'Avventura. Great song off of an >even better >album by Britta Phillips and Dean Wareham. One of my favs from last >year. > >It's a cover. Info from website: >"By Deans good friend Angel Corpus Christi, from her White Courtesy >Phone album. >Angel Corpus Christi is a San Francisco based singer and accordionist >with a unique style." The accordion was a clue. I looked up Angel Corpus Christi, and found that that "Going underground, down next to your next of kin" line is from the song "Down" on the White Courtesy Phone album. Bingo! So... anyone know anything more about her? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:21:49 -0800 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Music at the Oscars Stewart nominates "A Kiss at the End of the Rainbow" for best song. It WAS pretty good and I can't think of a better one. But I don't get out much. Latest project: I'm negotiating to write a biography of a former Broadway actress who has retired to Victoria. She is now a Quaker anti-war activist. Will let you know the details once it's finalized. If she agrees, then I have a fascinating job ahead of me. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:44:49 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Oscars and Threw it away - --On Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2004 17:50 Uhr +1300 James Dignan wrote: > I looked up Angel Corpus Christi, and found that > that "Going underground, down next to your next of kin" line is from the > song "Down" on the White Courtesy Phone album. Bingo! > > So... anyone know anything more about her? Only what allmusic.com tells us: > Angel Corpus Christi (a.k.a. Andrea Ross) is a San Francisco > singer/accordionist who began releasing vintage-sounding pop albums in > the '80s. Her husband Rich Stim , a frequent musical co-conspirator, > first became an important figure in avant/fringe rock in the mid-'70s > with MX-80 . In 1984, Angel Corpus Christi debuted with an album of > NYC-related covers (by the Ramones , Lou Reed , etc.) called, fittingly, > I Love New York . Wake Up & Cry , which primarily consisted of originals, > emerged the following year, followed by 1987's Dim the Lights . Accordion > Pop Vol. 1 , a collection of accordion covers, came out in 1989. That > same year saw the release of her first CD effort,The '80s , a collection > that included both retrospective tracks and new material. Re-emerging in > 1995, Angel found herself on a mainstream label, Almo Sounds. That year > she released the immensely catchy and fully realized White Courtesy Phone > . Craig Leon played keyboards and produced, while Almo head Herb Alpert > added some guest trumpet to "Lazy." Legendary session > percussionist/drummerHal Blaine also shows up on the effort. Corpus > Christi has also added accordion to the Spiritualizedalbum Ladies and > Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space and collaborated with Luna's Dean > Wareham on a cover of Serge Gainesbourg's "Je T'aime (I Wanna Boogie With > You)." - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:45:30 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Oscar nominations come out Ung: > > Seems to me like the acting nominations are unusually blah, >> this year. Not much in the way of "breakout performances," > >>because the films of Bill Murray and Charlize Theron were >> basically arthouse films. > >What ever do you mean? What do arthouse films have to do >with anything? They matter because we're talking about the Oscars here, which celebrate Big Cultural Impact. > Certainly Keisha Castle-Hughes certainly >qualifies as a "breakout performance" under any standard. 11 >years old and nominated for Best Actress? I don't even know what she looks like. Her level of media saturation is rather underwhelming. > Methinks somebody >should have gone to the movie theater more than once in 2003 >before making such sweeping statements Retract those claws, biyaatch! I don't need to see the films to read reviews or perceive the "buzz." Hockey sucks, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:16:10 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Oscar nominations come out On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Eb wrote: > Ung: > > > Seems to me like the acting nominations are unusually blah, > >> this year. Not much in the way of "breakout performances," > because > >>the films of Bill Murray and Charlize Theron were > >> basically arthouse films. > > > >What ever do you mean? What do arthouse films have to do with > >anything? > > They matter because we're talking about the Oscars here, which celebrate > Big Cultural Impact. Do you really believe that? I was looking at a poster that showed all of the Oscar winning "Best Pictures" and I would say most of them have almost no lasting cultural influence. > > Certainly Keisha Castle-Hughes certainly qualifies as a "breakout > >performance" under any standard. 11 years old and nominated for Best > >Actress? > > I don't even know what she looks like. Her level of media saturation is > rather underwhelming. So we're not talking about Best Actress in terms of quality acting, but Best Actress in terms of media saturation and what it does for her marketability? > > Methinks somebody should have gone to the movie theater more than > >once in 2003 before making such sweeping statements > > Retract those claws, biyaatch! I don't need to see the films to read > reviews or perceive the "buzz." ...which says something, I would think, about the depth and quality of the culture upon which the Oscars measure "Big Impact". I don't think the Oscars measure so much quality in filmcraft as they do quality in that "buzz" and media saturation. Oh, and certainly the song at the end of School of Rock was way better than most of the other nominees... and Scarlett Johansen was utterly screwed (then again, I could probably name a dozen performances from the past year that were better than hers, but didn't reach the same level of media saturation). J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:02:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Yup http://theonion.com/4004/news2.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:18:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Oscar nominations come out Steve Talkowski wrote: > On Jan 27, 2004, at 6:18 PM, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > Am I the only one that's excited that T Bone and Elvis > > Costello got their first oscars noms for some song in > > Cold Mountain that I haven't heard. > > Nope! > > Ecstatic over here, especially since the Academy snubbed > the wonderful "God Give Me Strength" which SHOULD have > been nominated a few years ago... Not to mention "Party Party" being overlooked all those years ago. Actually, I like the song he did for "Lebowski" better, but "GGMS" was a damn fine tune, and certainly far more Oscar-ish, though with Eminem winning last year, who knows about that anymore (though that was probably just a blip). ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:16:27 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Oscar nominations come out On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:18:29 -0800 (PST), "Jeff Dwarf" said: > Steve Talkowski wrote: > > Ecstatic over here, especially since the Academy snubbed > > the wonderful "God Give Me Strength" which SHOULD have > > been nominated a few years ago... > > Not to mention "Party Party" being overlooked all those > years ago. Which song he seems to have completely disowned: it hasn't shown up on either of the reissues of the chronologically nearest albums, and he's never so much as mentioned it in the liner notes... I'm too lazy to look up which track he did on "Lebowski" - anyone equally lazy but with a better memory care to enlighten me? Oh: My Oscar predictions? Any movie in which an actor portrays a character who is disabled, mentally ill, or suffers tragically during (a) the Holocaust or (b) Vietnam will win that role an Oscar. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:12:36 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Oscar nominations come out On Jan 28, 2004, at 10:16 AM, Fortissimo wrote: > I'm too lazy to look up which track he did on "Lebowski" - anyone > equally > lazy but with a better memory care to enlighten me? "My Mood Swings" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:29:53 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Oscar nominations come out At 09:16 AM 1/28/2004 -0600, Fortissimo wrote: >Oh: My Oscar predictions? Any movie in which an actor portrays a >character who is disabled, mentally ill, or suffers tragically during (a) >the Holocaust or (b) Vietnam will win that role an Oscar. After last Friday's VH-1 BANDS REUNITED episode, we kept it on the channel for the premiere of their new BEST WEEK EVER! show, a weekly commentary from comedians, actors, musicians, cleaning ladies, whoever they can round up. If you've seen their WE LOVE THE '80s shows, you know the format: topic, clips from several semi-celebs commenting on topic, repeat until whole timeslot is filled. It's not the Best Show Ever! but it was OK. Anyway, my favorite moments were Topher Grace saying he'd like to win a date with Jon Lovitz, and, to this particular point, one of the comedians pronouncing re: the last couple of years of Best Actor/Actress nominations, "Ugly is the new Retarded." later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:32:47 -0500 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: that juggernaut silent-film thread Eb wrote: > Strangely, you neglected to mention your own instrument. Piano? Organ? > Synthesizer? Some combination of the above? Pan flute? The instrumentation would vary from show to show. The constant was a Chroma Polaris synthesizer that also served as a MIDI controller for an Emu Vintage Keys Plus module and sometimes an Akai S612 sampler. The sampler provided a marvelous tympani sound that worked very well for Metropolis with the early scenes in the factory and the closing scene where the workers march on city hall. The Polaris keyboard could send MIDI on two channels, so I was able to play two voices on the Vintage Keys, such as strings with the left paw and flute with the right. Once I got the Theremin that became a constant, too. Sometimes I would add guitar to the mix. At first I tried using my Gibson Melody Maker, but quickly discovered that taking it off its stand, getting the strap on and then having to take it off and put it back on the stand took way too much time, so I switched to using a lap steel guitar. The lap steel had the advantage that it was just lying there, and all I had to do was take my hands off the keyboard and pick up the steel bar and a pick; much quicker. Sometimes I'd bring along my Korg MS20 synthesizer just to have an additional synth voice. And I used a lot of effect boxes and echoes for loops. I tended to have equipment surrounding me. To deal with reading panels in the dark I bought some amber finger lights from a catalog; the catalog claimed Air Force pilots used them to read their cockpit controls. They worked for me. The fun part was the breakdown after the second show. Usually the silent movie was the first film shown that day. After Saturday's show, I'd just drape the equipment with blankets, but after Sunday's show, I'd have about twenty minutes to get everything out the door unless I wanted to sit through the three o'clock showing. (-8 I'd take a large cloth laundry bag and just unplug everything and throw the cables, power strips, and unrackmounted effects in the bag and sort them out later. Sometimes friends would attend and offer to help, so "unplug everything" was the best way to put them to use. They would sometimes try to help me load the gear into the car afterwards, but I would have to decline that offer as everything had to be packed just so if it was all to fit. (-8 Sometimes the silent movie would be scheduled as the last show of the evening, usually on a Monday. In that case I'd get there when the theater opened at 6 PM (it took an hour to heat the butter up for the popcorn) and set up my gear, then sit through the 7 PM movie (saw some good ones I wouldn't have seen otherwise that way (-8), and do my thing at 9 PM. That allowed for a more leisurely takedown. John McIntyre mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:22:45 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: St. Genevieve Stewart: >>"A Kiss At The End Of The Rainbow" has *got* to win best song. That would make it not only one of the few Oscar-winning songs that I can not only stomach, but have also performed in public! Nat: >> I did like the guitarist's reverb-drenched slide playing  he used an >>E-bow, which I did not mistake for an electric razor the way I did with >>the Flaming Lips. Actually, it looked more like a cell phone. Damn. Slide/e-bow combo officially stricken from Rex's list of "shit I've done which somebody else has probably done but I've never specifically heard about it so I'm gonna pretend I invented it." Now, e-bowed banjo... well, I haven't done that yet, but now I guess me and a six-pack have some plans for tonight. >> (I need to start listening to more Neil Young) I'm just sayin'... Miles: >>Incidentally, the #1 result at the moment on Google for a search for "genevieve" >>is the section of the TRADING SPACES site devote to Genevieve Gorder. >>Of course, I heartily approve. Good to know. This is a crush I have to keep on the down-low, as my wife finds her a bit annoying and is generally opposed to me liking large-breasted blondes. But I like Gen... rather a lot (and yeah, she's younger than me... I checked). I am allowed to like Amy Wynn Pastor, so there's some solace. Still pissed that Teresa Strausser bagged the "While You Were Out" gig, though. There was a babe. - -Rex, who's been appending the word "thoth" to "tinfoil" for about a year and a half ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:13:01 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: St. Genevieve On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:22:45 -0800, "Rex.Broome" said: > Miles: > >>Incidentally, the #1 result at the moment on Google for a search for "genevieve" > >>is the section of the TRADING SPACES site devote to Genevieve Gorder. > >>Of course, I heartily approve. > > Good to know. This is a crush I have to keep on the down-low, as my wife > finds her a bit annoying and is generally opposed to me liking > large-breasted blondes. But I like Gen... rather a lot (and yeah, she's > younger than me... I checked). I had no idea who she was (don't watch the show), so I image-googled - and came up with this page, Rex, for your viewing pleasure: . - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:00:13 -0800 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: I agree with Miles again! Maybe this isn't such a rare occurence, eh? Or maybe the ion storms are more active than we might think. >If you were to say to your spouse/s.o., "Honey, we're almost out of >alt-country... on your way home, stop by Miles of Music and pick up some >more," they'd come home with Canyon or something that sounded just like >them. Ha! That's a good description. >I will also endorse without reservation Natalie's concert reviews -- I'm >always totally psyched to see a "gnatmaniax" subjet line waiting in my >inbox. Thank you very much, I really appreciate that. I always wonder whether anyone's actually reading the damn things... :) Oh, I'm just going to take this opportunity to change the subject and brag about my latest possession... I stopped into a local vintage clothing store recently and found that the owner was selling an almost-new American-made Fender Jazz bass for $200. Even though I am poor and unemployed, I couldn't pass this up. It's a little beat-up, but plays and sounds great. I found that my guitar-playing skills, such as they are, seem to be transferring to the bass pretty well. I got a long way till I become the next Paul McCartney (or even Kim Gordon), but it's fun trying, anyway. I'm just sayin'... n. _________________________________________________________________ There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:08:54 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: St. Genevieve on 1/28/04 11:13 AM, Fortissimo at tonerbomb@warpmail.net wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:22:45 -0800, "Rex.Broome" > said: >> Miles: >>>> Incidentally, the #1 result at the moment on Google for a search for >>>> "genevieve" >>>> is the section of the TRADING SPACES site devote to Genevieve Gorder. >>>> Of course, I heartily approve. >> >> Good to know. This is a crush I have to keep on the down-low, as my wife >> finds her a bit annoying and is generally opposed to me liking >> large-breasted blondes. But I like Gen... rather a lot (and yeah, she's >> younger than me... I checked). > > I had no idea who she was (don't watch the show), so I image-googled - > and came up with this page, Rex, for your viewing pleasure: > . I guess I finally have to start watching this show! - -tc, setting the TiVo... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:19:22 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: St. Genevieve At 01:13 PM 1/28/2004 -0600, Fortissimo wrote: >On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:22:45 -0800, "Rex.Broome" > said: >> Miles: >> >>Incidentally, the #1 result at the moment on Google for a search for >"genevieve" >> >>is the section of the TRADING SPACES site devote to Genevieve Gorder. >> >>Of course, I heartily approve. >> >> Good to know. This is a crush I have to keep on the down-low, as my wife >> finds her a bit annoying and is generally opposed to me liking >> large-breasted blondes. But I like Gen... rather a lot (and yeah, she's >> younger than me... I checked). > >I had no idea who she was (don't watch the show), so I image-googled - >and came up with this page, Rex, for your viewing pleasure: >. It's pretty rare that she wears a top as revealing as that -- mostly they just sort of loom under a black high-necked top instead of being right out there. Unfortunately, on that one episode, the gods gave us cleavage, but to balance the karmic scales, also gave us the Worst Gen Hairstyle Ever. More typically, Gen looks like she does in the picture at the top of this page: http://www.dmgworldmedia.com/2003/DesMoinesHomeGardenShow2003/Front/speaker.htm I'll second Rex's vote for Amy Wynn Pastor and former WHILE YOU WERE OUT hostess Teresa Strasser as smokin' hot TLC babes. However, Teresa wasn't really right for that show -- it seemed real clear to me that she was instantly at a level of Sajak bordedom with the proceedings, and she's far smarter than that job ever would have given her a chance to exhibit. Her web page suffers from no such shortcoming. Be sure to read through the "Syndicated Column" section, particularly "The Nose Knows" (ah, Callie Thorne, why didn't you understand this?) and "Roadside Distraction." later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:45:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Oscar nominations come out > > They matter because we're talking about the Oscars here, which celebrate >> Big Cultural Impact. > >Do you really believe that? I was looking at a poster that showed all of >the Oscar winning "Best Pictures" and I would say most of them have almost >no lasting cultural influence. It is utterly pointless to discuss film with you. Actually, I'm not sure there's a point in discussing *anything* with you. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:09:06 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: New Usenet reader from Panic <-RH+OSX+EB> The folks at Panic have done it again, Check out their new, elegant usenet reader, Unison: http://www.panic.com/unison/index.html Now Eb can filter even more Kansan material for us - in style! - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:25:47 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: New Usenet reader from Panic The folks at Panic have done it again, Check out their new, elegant usenet reader, Unison: http://www.panic.com/unison/index.html Now Eb can filter even more Kansan material for us - in style! - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:36:43 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: New Usenet reader from Panic (-RH+OSX+EB) The folks at Panic have done it again, Check out their new, elegant usenet reader, Unison: http://www.panic.com/unison/index.html Now Eb can filter even more Kansan material for us - in style! - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:36:47 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Interesting news The "Blank Generation" Finds a Home Richard Hell's Papers Acquired By NYU's Fales Library The Fales Collection at New York University's Elmer Holmes Bobst Library has received a collection of historically significant materials of Richard Hell, author, editor, and "father" of punk rock. Hell's papers not only document his long and varied career, but also show the literary roots of the punk scene and its link to the earlier European avant-garde. Marvin Taylor, Director of the Fales Collection said about the acquisition: "Richard Hell is most often thought of only as the first punk rock star, but that's too simplistic. Richard is an author who links the European avant-garde tradition of France at the end of the nineteenth century to New York at the end of the twentieth. His papers show his deep knowledge of this tradition and how he became a touchstone for so many artists who were trying to express similar ideas. Richard's archive is one of the pillars of the downtown collection here at NYU." The collection contains over 30 linear feet of diaries, manuscripts, letters, photographs, posters, videos, songsheets, and other materials created by Hell during his career. Among the papers are: the manuscripts for Hell's novels; archives of the pamphlets--sometimes collaborations--Hell published as a small publisher by such as Patti Smith, Tom Verlaine, Rene Ricard, Nick Tosches, and Ron Padgett, among others; and an extensive collection of sound recordings. The collection is currently unprocessed. It will be about a year before the collection is open for scholars. The Richard Hell papers are a part of the Downtown New York Collection, which comprises some 3,500 linear feet of archives and nearly 10,000 printed items. The collection documents the downtown NYC arts scene from 1974 to the present. Other sets of artist's papers include the novelist, poet and art writer Dennis Cooper and the papers of David Wojnarowicz, who was a painter, writer and sometime musician. It is the only collection of its kind in a research library and is heavily used by students, scholars, and others interested in the creative world of downtown New York. The Fales Collection at NYU comprises nearly 200,000 volumes of both rare books and manuscripts in English and American literature, and the general special collections from the NYU Libraries. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:42:37 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Oscar nominations come out On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:45:33 -0800, "Eb" said: > > > They matter because we're talking about the Oscars here, which celebrate > >> Big Cultural Impact. > > > >Do you really believe that? I was looking at a poster that showed all of > >the Oscar winning "Best Pictures" and I would say most of them have almost > >no lasting cultural influence. > > It is utterly pointless to discuss film with you. Actually, I'm not > sure there's a point in discussing *anything* with you. Probably because both of you insist on construing one another's messages in the most convoluted, least plausible ways possible. I mean, clearly, by "Big Cultural Impact" Eb didn't necessarily mean "Ongoing, Permanent Cultural Impact" (I think he's pretty well aware that the buzz factor overrides quality or importance) - and pretty clear as well that, if we wanted to change the topic to something like "but do the Oscars recognize lasting, influential work, and why not?" there are better ways to do it than "do you really believe that?" I mean, c'mon: wouldn't it be easier to at least *pretend* the other person's saying something that makes sense, instead of pissing all over the list about it? - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #30 *******************************