From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #26 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 24 2004 Volume 13 : Number 026 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: REAP [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: state of discomfort [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Legends of the South Wight: The Glass Hotel. [bayard ] Re: REAP ["cmb adams" ] Re: penguins ["Fortissimo" ] Doubtful Sound, indeed... ["Rex.Broome" ] reap (bet he never shot Capt. Kangaroo, though...) [Eb ] Re: REAP ["Jonathan Fetter" ] looking for info... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Reap ["Danny Lieberman" ] heh ya [steve ] Reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Reap [Capuchin ] BIG FISH (spoiler) [tanter@tarleton.edu] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:18:49 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: REAP gSs sez: >project. anyway, if we occupy 'em long enough the foreignality will fade. although I'm pretty sure this is a deliberate ironic comment, Albania is still pissed off at Turkey, who occupied them for close to 500 years. How long have the British been controlling Northern Ireland? How long is the US staying in Iraq? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:19:02 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: state of discomfort Thankfully we don't have state of the yoony-un addresses, but still... >GW Bush-None, except as above. Flat-out liar. >Clinton--Very little. His speeches usually reeked of insincerity. Bad >speech writers? >Bush Sr.--Surprisingly, I could listen to him more than anyone. Better >speech writers? >Reagan-None. Flat-out liar. >Carter--Just a pup back then. FWIW (approximately zero, probably) Clark - huffy, but occasionally unintentionally amusing. Shipley - condescending, up-herself oaf. Thought she was the new Thatcher. Bolger - passable, no-nonsense approach Moore - unintentionally hilarious. Hadn't a clue, still hasn't. Palmer - boring, but very clued up Lange - astonishingly good. Witty and wry, but sadly unaware of what his government was up to. Muldoon - drunken, foul-mouthed liar. Comparable to Father Jack. Rowling - too young to remember James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Legends of the South Wight: The Glass Hotel. Sheesh, nothing out of me for years and then all of a sudden..! This is just to let y'all know I made some general updates to the Glass Hotel... it was about time, too! Several links pages have been cleaned up, so click with confidence. If you can think of anything that needs changing or want something added to it, let me know! This site was made for you! http://glasshotel.net/gh =b - -- "Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong." - Dandemis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:55:56 -0700 From: "cmb adams" Subject: Re: REAP On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:18:49 +1300, James Dignan wrote > gSs sez: > >project. anyway, if we occupy 'em long enough the foreignality will fade. > > although I'm pretty sure this is a deliberate ironic comment, > Albania is still pissed off at Turkey, who occupied them for close > to 500 years. How long have the British been controlling Northern > Ireland? How long is the US staying in Iraq? when visiting japan in the early 90s, I was struck by what a weird hybrid their culture was: their own ancient traditions with a weird overlay of 1950s america from the time of the occupation and a thin veneer of gibsonesque cyberpunk. it was, I think, as close to being on another planet as I'll ever experience: alien and surreal in a way that I don't think any other foreign culture could ever approach. none of this is meant to draw a comparison between the iraq occupation and the japanese occupation. I know that one is popular with some folks, but I see them as apples and oranges at best. at worst, they're more like apples and leg warmers. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:05:22 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: penguins "Looks like you've blown a seal." If you know the rest of the joke, you can fill it in. If you don't, you probably don't want to... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:46:39 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Doubtful Sound, indeed... Me then Natalie: >>>>Doubtful Sound. >>I claim this as a band name. Everyone else keep your paws off of it! Sweet, I knew I'd hook you up with a band name eventually... kinda funny that wasn't among the other 149 suggestions I sent you last year, but hey, it happens when it happens. You should see Doubilet's photos from there. Loverly. Michael B: >>A candidate for a Perfect Pop Song: Hobart Paving by Saint Etienne. >>The Perfect Pop Band, for a while at lease back in the 1990's IMHO. Sho 'nuff. Only band I ever named a cat after. "People Get Real", there's a song that's so sweet that it takes a while to work out just how very evil and misanthropic it is... always wanted to do a rockin' version of that tune, maybe MBV it up or summat. James: >>I nearly got myself into a mess of trouble a few years back, when I wrote >>a parody song based on an old NZ folk song, and it was played on the >>radio. Turns out the writer of the old folk song was still alive and well, but it >>was such a well-known song that most people (me included) asssumed it was >>a Trad. My dad's band appropriated as their signature tune, and twice recorded, a song they learned from (duh) the Kingston Trio called "I'm Going Home", substituting "West Virginia" for "California" and changing the appropriate geographical features in the lyrics. They at first thought it was Trad. as well, and then found out it was not, and did pay the royalties, but they sweated the legality of the changes so badly that they sadly ditched their West Virginia Musician version of "Some Day Soon" when they recorded it (the original is about Colorado Rodeo Riders). Years and years later Dad read in a Kingston Trio bio that the "writer" of "I'm Going Home" was himself sued for ripping the song off of some forgotten showtune. Errr, the Trio's version has better banjo playing, but I do like Dad's lyrics better, just because it's better damn song than "Country Roads". Goddamn "Country Roads". God Damn. Country. Roads. Huh? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:20:59 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap (bet he never shot Capt. Kangaroo, though...) AP LOS ANGELES - Acclaimed photographer Helmut Newton was killed in a car crash Friday, police said. He was 83. Newton, a fashion photographer whose work appeared in magazines such as Playboy, Elle and Vogue, was best known for his stark, black-and-white nude photos. Newton lost control of his Cadillac while leaving the Chateau Marmont hotel in Hollywood and crashed into a wall across the street, said Officer April Harding, a police spokeswoman. Before hitting the wall, the car brushed an Associated Press photographer who was arriving at the hotel on an unrelated assignment. Newton was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, where he died a short time later, Harding said. Newton, who was Jewish, fled Germany for Singapore in December 1938, a month after Nazi-led pogroms. He eventually settled in Australia and became a citizen, then took up residence in Monte Carlo. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:18:13 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: doubtful Decemberists On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > Perhaps audience fegs can shout out Robyn songs for Colin Meloy to play > (again). He essayed a bit of "Flesh Cartoons" last time but forgot the > words. I forgot that Paul was the one that did Flesh Cartoons at the tribute gig. Colin did "Messages Of Dark" and it was quite great. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:47:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: REAP Boy this takes me back...do overly-self serious teenagers still quote Rush lyrics when writing a column for the school newspaper? If not, who has taken their place? Technology high...on the leading edge of life, jon On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:53:35 -0600, "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." wrote : > > From: Capuchin > > Subject: RE: REAP > > > > It's sick, isn't it? > > Give me back my wonder, I've something more to give! I guess it doesn't > matter, there's not much more to live. > > > I think you forget that I'm opposed to the use of private automobiles, > > too. > > My uncle has a country place that no one knows about. He says it used to be > a farm, before the Motor Law. > > > Because people don't think about the consequences of their own actions. > > Absolutely. They're quick to judge, quick to anger, and slow to understand. > > > What about your own nation's sovereignty? Isn't that sacred to you? > > We talk of a peaceable kingdom, talk of a time without fear. But the ones we > wish would listen are never going to hear. > > > That's definitely one of my fears. > > We are secrets to each other -- each one's life a novel no-one else has > read. > > Throw off those chains of reason and your prison disappears. > > > Well, we wouldn't need to do any rebuilding if we hadn't systematically > > destroyed their infrastructure over the past 13 years. > > Ten score years ago, when we defeated the kingly foe, a wondrous dream came > into being. We tamed the trackless waste, no virgin land left chaste, all > shining eyes, but never seeing. > > > If we did that, it'd probably end up going to the same place anyway. > > Well, you won't get wise with the sleep still in your eyes. No matter what > your dreams might be. > > > I'd like to see us pledge the money to whatever government the Iraqi > > people put together for themselves, so long as it's democratic. Let them > > hire whoever they choose to do the work. > > Leave out the fiction. The fact is, this friction will only be worn by > persistence. > > > You've got to draw the line somewhere. > > Conform or be cast out! > > > It's certainly chaos right now. Order doesn't come at the barrel of a > > gun and you don't buy peace with blood money. > > Sing! O Choirs of Cacophony! > > The king has kneeled to let his kingdom rise. > > > The nation is so distressed that surely the only order to arise out of it > > will be a dictatorship. Right now it looks like it'll be a U.S.-backed > > dictatorship that claims some dubious democratic credentials (based on the > > caucuses driven by the wealthy of each region rubber-stamping the U.S. > > nominees). But I think that just assures more violence for the next ten > > or twenty years. > > Totally. The things that we fear are a weapon to be held against us. And we > can walk our road together, if our goals are all the same. > > Gene "Too many hands on my time, too many feelings" Hopstetter, Jr. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:02:55 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: looking for info... looking for info on an odd but oddly endearing artist. Unfortunately, I haven't a clue who it is, but here are some clues. I've heard two songs. A slowish one which seems to be called "Threw it away", and one with a gleeful chorus about "going underground, down next to your next of kin". The sound is new-wavey - the original new wave: gloriously unslick, and it sounds like they're having fun working out what the instruments can do. It's early B-52s/Talking Heads-ish, and the singer sounds like the bastard daughter of Tom Verlaine. Yet somehow it feels a little more recent. And here's the kicker clue - the main instruments include accordion. The questions: who is this? Are they still recording? Any recommendations? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:40:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Danny Lieberman" Subject: Reap End of an era, in spite of the not-so-perfect acoustics, http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/24/nyregion/24bottom.html - -- Danny Lieberman dfl@panix.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:47:23 -0600 From: steve Subject: heh ya - - Steve (323.3) __________ Does pop music really change anything other than the width of a teenager's trousers? Is there really no Santa Claus on the evening stage? Does the shed hold only a push bike, or is there a lawn mower in there too? Well, I've done the research, talked to the culprit's parents and come to my own conclusions. The answer is this: God's atoms have been scattered and re-assembled in the form of a fluffy bunny. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:11:05 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Reap Helmut Newton James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:16:39 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Reap On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, James Dignan wrote: > Helmut Newton How many is that today? Gotta be a record. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:34:04 -0600 (CST) From: tanter@tarleton.edu Subject: BIG FISH (spoiler) Well, just got back from seeing this one and the message I got is this: don't worry about telling your family the whole truth about anything, just make the stories good. Very disappointed in this. Marcy ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #26 *******************************