From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #24 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 23 2004 Volume 13 : Number 024 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Penguin-based productivity enhancer ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Iraqotopia (WAS: Re: REAP) ["Fortissimo" ] RE: Penguin-based productivity enhancer ["Brian Huddell" ] Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Penguin-based productivity enhancer ["Matt Sewell" ] REAP ["Maximilian Lang" ] reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Penguin-based productivity enhancer ["craigie*" ] Re: Robyn 4-14-95 torrent at sharingthegroove [fingerpuppets ] RE: REAP [Capuchin ] Re: Iraqotopia (WAS: Re: REAP) [bayard ] Re: The onion's state's turned. It's starting to stink ["cmb adams" ] Re: REAP [FSThomas ] Re: Iraqotopia (WAS: Re: REAP) ["cmb adams" ] Reap, actual Reap ["ross taylor" ] Oddball songwriting credit question ["Rex.Broome" Subject: Penguin-based productivity enhancer My best distance so far is 319.1. Top that, I dare ya. http://ze999.ru/stuff/ping/ Click to pitch, then click to swing. Just don't plan on getting any work done today if you dare click the link. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:55:08 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: REAP You could spend that 86 billion on fighting the growing poverty in some parts of the United States, couldn't you? And remember, that 86 billion ain't necessarily going to the Iraqi people - more like to the various corporations charged with "rebuilding" Iraq. Sounds like yet another great way to take cash out of the pockets of taxpayers and put it in the pockets of the ultra-rich... CHeers Matt >From: Greg Wow we could spend the 86 >billion on sending a person to mars or maybe to fund the 'patriot act II'. whether >the miltary action was justified is worth debate but the import issue i see here >is your apparent insistance that the violators of the sacred sovereignty of iraq >should withdraw now. are you a nationalist or a patriot of some type? that would >surprise me. the "continued occupation" for the near future is absolutely >neccessary and will continue. anything less, at this time would mean certain chaos >for iraq. does that mean i think the continued occupation guarantees anything >else? No, but it improves the odds dramatically and should continue. > >gSs > > >---- Msg sent via WebMail - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help protect your PC with anti-virus protection when you sign up for MSN 8 . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:58:31 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Iraqotopia (WAS: Re: REAP) On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:31:48 +0000, "Matt Sewell" said: > Couldn't agree more, Tom... those protesting from within the "rules" of a > democratic system - they're your freedom fighters. I think that those who > use violence against civilians are, by definition, terrorists. By that definition, what 20th or 21st century military was not terrorist? Bombing inevitably kills civilians. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:04:16 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Penguin-based productivity enhancer Just got 319.9, but in fairness I must say that I'm *really* pissed at penguins today. Where do they get off, anyway? > My best distance so far is 319.1. Top that, I dare ya. > > http://ze999.ru/stuff/ping/ > > Click to pitch, then click to swing. > > Just don't plan on getting any work done today if you dare > click the link. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:06:46 -0500 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Penguin-based productivity enhancer 320.5 on the fifth swing Eric At 10:40 AM 1/23/2004 -0600, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >My best distance so far is 319.1. Top that, I dare ya. > >http://ze999.ru/stuff/ping/ > >Click to pitch, then click to swing. > >Just don't plan on getting any work done today if you dare click the link. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:25:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap It just came over the wire here at work, Bob Keeshan a.k.a. Captain Kangaroo has died. I suddenly feel really, really, really old. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:26:22 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: Penguin-based productivity enhancer Probably somewhere near the Antarctic... Joke: why don't polar bears eat penguins? They can't get the wrappers off (nb. may be less funny to non-UK fegs)! Cheers Matt >From: "Brian Huddell" >Just got 319.9, but in fairness I must say that I'm *really* pissed at >penguins today. > >Where do they get off, anyway? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help protect your PC with anti-virus protection when you sign up for MSN 8 . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:27:43 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Iraqotopia (WAS: Re: REAP) Quite! Cheers Matt >From: "Fortissimo" I think that those who > > use violence against civilians are, by definition, terrorists. > >By that definition, what 20th or 21st century military was not terrorist? >Bombing inevitably kills civilians. >------------------------------- > >...Jeff > >J e f f r e y N o r m a n >The Architectural Dance Society >http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ >:: Solipsism is its own reward :: >:: - --Crow T. Robot - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Half price modem, FREE connection and one month FREE - click here to sign up to BT Broadband. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:29:26 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: REAP Bob Keeshan (aka Captain Kangaroo) _________________________________________________________________ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap George Woodbridge, MAD magazine illustrator http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/books/01/22/obit.woodbridge.ap/index.html ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:34:11 -0000 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: Penguin-based productivity enhancer http://leech.dk/penguin.swf That one gets you further. I got 601 today. It's down right now but try it soon. all the best! craigie* ...better late than never, until proven otherwise... ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Huddell To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: RE: Penguin-based productivity enhancer Just got 319.9, but in fairness I must say that I'm *really* pissed at penguins today. Where do they get off, anyway? > My best distance so far is 319.1. Top that, I dare ya. > > http://ze999.ru/stuff/ping/ > > Click to pitch, then click to swing. > > Just don't plan on getting any work done today if you dare > click the link. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:31:52 -0500 From: "Christopher Carville" Subject: Robyn 4-14-95 torrent at sharingthegroove I am currently seeding this show ar www.sharingthegroove.org. C ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:33:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Penguin-based productivity enhancer - --- Matt Sewell wrote: > Probably somewhere near the Antarctic... > > Joke: why don't polar bears eat penguins? They can't get > the wrappers off > (nb. may be less funny to non-UK fegs)! I'd think they'd have more trouble opening the little tins ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:41:09 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: Robyn 4-14-95 torrent at sharingthegroove that reminds me: the guy who seeding the early maxwell's show on stg did not tape the late show. so, hopefully, we can get original shns or flacs from one of the other myriad recordings of the late show. max, i know you said yours came out nicely. how about the other tapers? i can help anyone who needs a tutorial on making shorten or flac files and would be happy to help circulate them. perhaps that could be the next fegftptree? also, did anyone record the nashville show? woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:50:56 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Or "how do you work this thing the list's population..." Eb: >>Well, I saw some during college, because there were some great, >>free on-campus film series. Eb... dare I ask where you went to school? _________ Scott HM: >>Nobody's mentioned The 13th Warrior -- an overall abysmal film >>based on one of Crichton's better books IMO (Eaters of the Dead). Interesting (where "interesting" = "less inflamatory than the current tenor of conversation") trivia on that film from my days in film exhibition: it was originally titled after the book, and they even made a trailer under the title "Eaters of the Dead". But the trailer was soooo offputting (weird off-registration-looking images and a repeating shrieking sound that was truly hideous and ear-splitting) that the studio actually delayed the film and changed the title (which was admittedly commercially dubious in itself, but at least had potential Chrichton-recognition-cred) so that *nobody* would associate it with the painful experience of enduring the trailer. More from that period of my life, and appropos to John's silent movie experience: while I've never provided a live soundtrack for a film, I *did* sort of secure a gig performing before a screening, which sadly never came to pass. My buddy and then-coworker books the Nuart Theatre here in LA often has various performances at/before special screenings (like a Beatles cover band playing before Yellow Submarine) and for a while had a really irritating projectionist doing "standup" before shows. Anyhow, he had Storefront Hitchcock on his tentative schedule for a while and we were hanging out at some point and I played a few Robyn covers for him on guitar (I do a pretty fair Robyn, in fact, and don't look entirely unlike him) and he said he wanted me to do a tune before the opening night screening if Robyn himself couldn't be there. Sadly *that* film was delayed until after I'd left the company and didn't land on the Nuart calendar anyhow, so thus began and ended my career as a *Robyn Hitchcock Imitator For Hire*. ______ James: >>Alice doesn't care for him - she's more inclined to watch Edward Norton or >>Kevin Spacey movies. Hmmmm... what is it with fegwives and Kevin Spacey, I wonder? James, I was just leafing through my book of David Doubilet underwater photography and was delighted to discover that New Zealand boast a body of water named Doubtful Sound. Makes me wish there were more such bodies of water to be discovered so we could start naming them High Lonesome Sound... Wild Mercury Sound... Surround Sound... the Sound of Sound... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:05:53 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: RE: REAP against my better judgement... > > The "insurgents and terrorists" in Iraq today are freedom fighters working > > desperately to liberate their people from a foreign occupation. They must be desperate indeed to liberate their people by killing them indiscriminately, as well as targeting the humanitarian aid organization that opposed the war. Why is Jeff not permitted to sympathize with McCain when you sympathize with these bloodthirsty types? Freedom fighters? Yes, they are fighting it. But I hope freedom comes to Iraq anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:24:34 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: REAP On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, bayard wrote: > against my better judgement... > > > The "insurgents and terrorists" in Iraq today are freedom fighters > > > working desperately to liberate their people from a foreign > > > occupation. > > They must be desperate indeed to liberate their people by killing them > indiscriminately, as well as targeting the humanitarian aid organization > that opposed the war. I think it's impossible to separate out who's doing what over there... and even less possible to figure out why. > Why is Jeff not permitted to sympathize with McCain when you sympathize > with these bloodthirsty types? Jeff can sympathize with McCain all he wants. But Jeff was actually encouraging an act of violence that didn't happen (or hasn't happened yet). And I didn't say I sympathize with these people (though I do while disagreeing completely with their chosen recourse), just that the choice of description was loaded and you could easily phrase it another way. > Freedom fighters? Yes, they are fighting it. Again, it's really difficult to tell, in a situation like this, exactly WHAT they're fighting for, but it's pretty certain that many are fighting against the occupation and the system being put in place by the occupying army. > But I hope freedom comes to Iraq anyway. So do I. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:31:04 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Re: Iraqotopia (WAS: Re: REAP) > > Couldn't agree more, Tom... those protesting from within the "rules" of a > > democratic system - they're your freedom fighters. I think that those who > > use violence against civilians are, by definition, terrorists. > > By that definition, what 20th or 21st century military was not terrorist? > Bombing inevitably kills civilians. > ------------------------------- I don't think it's that simple; first of all, terrorism means coercion, and there's no need to coerce a state when you can just take it over (case in point, the recent US military actions) which may be illegal or immoral for many reasons (or not) but that does not make it terrorism; and secondly, plenty of people and things cause violence against civilians, for all kinds of reasons, and it could hardly be called terrorism even if those people and things are damned terrifying. It's all about intent, right? For instance, what about the Sniper? He changed his name to Mohommad and claimed to be religious, but his protege said they were most interested in money. What about Saddam? He attacked "his own people" with chemicals, but even people on the right don't call him a terrorist, just that they think he might ally himself with terrorists. But you were just being facetious, weren't you? I just want to say one thing about the war, then I'll pipe down. Yes, it's horrible that so many innocents have died. But... remember the sanctions? Weren't they killing many times as many people as the war did? The sanctions were multilateral and they caused the most harm to the very poorest, sickest, hungriest Iraqis, while doing little or nothing to Saddam and his cronies. The war was the only way the US would have allowed them to be lifted. If there is even a chance that we can make things better in Iraq, shouldn't we? Especially when Saddam was largely of our making and especially since Bush I made a promise to free Iraq the first time around? I know this war was sold to us under false (or at the very least, exaggerated) pretenses, and I know it is primarily being waged for self-interested reasons. That is plain. But even still, is there not hope, esp. with talk of the UN being brought back into the loop? If we can help those we formerly harmed - even if it hurts for a short time longer - aren't we obliged to try? =b "Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong." - Dandemis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:30:57 -0700 From: "cmb adams" Subject: Re: The onion's state's turned. It's starting to stink On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:18:24 +0000, Matt Sewell wrote > Oh come on now, it's only the Internet! I think a little heated > debate is good every now and again, as long as one remembers that > the disembodied typists are probably quite different people in real life... true enough. everyone is much taller, for example. and as annoying and wrong-headed as I find some folks's political sentiments on here, I'd be happy to hoist a few with any one of you. in fact, if anyone in the PNW is going to this loony event (http://www.laptopbattle.org) tonight, I'd be happy to hoist a few with you there! > I have to admit, though, Jeff's "If Capuchin didn't exist Rush Limbaugh > would have to make him up" made me laugh out loud! yeah, that one cracked me up too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:38:58 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: REAP On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 gshell@americangroupisp.com wrote: > [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] > Jeme sez: > >These people would not have died had the US not instigated aninvasion. > >That's enough. > > think how many people would be alive if the automobile been not been > invented? It's sick, isn't it? > kinda of a stretch to compare but, the automobile in it's form today and > when it was first mass produced is not an absolute necessity. it kills > more people each year than light, medium and heavy assault equipment of > all types, either accidentally or on purpose. I think you forget that I'm opposed to the use of private automobiles, too. > why aren't more people trying to have the automobile banned? Because people don't think about the consequences of their own actions. As for me, I'm not trying to get anything banned. But in the case of automobiles, I'd surely like to see urban areas designed to to work without them. Oh, and we ARE working on a project here in Portland to get one day a month declared "car free" downtown. There is obviously a fair amount of opposition. > >Those people died because of the war. Even if an American wasn't > >pulling the trigger, the trigger wouldn't have been pulled if not for > >the invasion and continued occupation of this foreign sovereignty. > > i guess that should have also applied in germany and japan? Yes. > 'foreign sovereignty'? fuck that. What about your own nation's sovereignty? Isn't that sacred to you? > if we occupy 'em long enough the foreignality will fade. That's definitely one of my fears. > if it was the un that was doing the occupying, would that make it any > better? No. > do you think we should just pick-up and leave so as to stop violating > their sovereignty? Yes. > i guess the infrastructure rebuilding should also stop. Well, we wouldn't need to do any rebuilding if we hadn't systematically destroyed their infrastructure over the past 13 years. > Wow we could spend the 86 billion on sending a person to mars or maybe > to fund the 'patriot act II'. If we did that, it'd probably end up going to the same place anyway. I'd like to see us pledge the money to whatever government the Iraqi people put together for themselves, so long as it's democratic. Let them hire whoever they choose to do the work. > whether the miltary action was justified is worth debate but the import > issue i see here is your apparent insistance that the violators of the > sacred sovereignty of iraq should withdraw now. You've got to draw the line somewhere. I'd like to see all foreign-based U.S. troops come home. I think we could do this within five years. > are you a nationalist or a patriot of some type? No. > that would surprise me. Well, you're not surprised, then. > the "continued occupation" for the near future is absolutely neccessary > and will continue. anything less, at this time would mean certain chaos > for iraq. does that mean i think the continued occupation guarantees > anything else? No, but it improves the odds dramatically and should > continue. It's certainly chaos right now. Order doesn't come at the barrel of a gun and you don't buy peace with blood money. The nation is so distressed that surely the only order to arise out of it will be a dictatorship. Right now it looks like it'll be a U.S.-backed dictatorship that claims some dubious democratic credentials (based on the caucuses driven by the wealthy of each region rubber-stamping the U.S. nominees). But I think that just assures more violence for the next ten or twenty years. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:22:23 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: REAP Capuchin wrote: > I think you forget that I'm opposed to the use of private automobiles, > too. Jeme's easy to recognize in a crowd. He's the one wearing the Utopia t-shirt and tin foil hat. > Oh, and we ARE working on a project here in Portland to get one day a > month declared "car free" downtown. There is obviously a fair amount of > opposition. I have a good friend down here who works for the GA DOT in urban planning. I could see urban zoning in order to develop an auto-free region, but it's something that would be best handled *during* construction. Ideally you would implement some form of transit (light rail, trams, etc) to get from A to B, and I understand Portland has such a system. (Light rail?). The idea, however, of banning autos full stop from an urban epicenter that *wasn't* built to support a 100% pedestrian population, is plumb loco.? If the monthly ban *is* implemented I would be curious to know what employer's truancy rates are on those car-free days, and how it impacts local businesses like restaurants, for example. Do *anything* to hurt small (or large) business and you're harming everyone. Harming business, though, is probably part of Jeme's master plan, as anything that earns a profit, pays dividends, or has paid employees qualifies as Baby-Eating Evil. > Well, we wouldn't need to do any rebuilding if we hadn't systematically > destroyed their infrastructure over the past 13 years. Sack of crap number, what is this, three? (Who's counting?) Saddam's government squandered what revenue the country could generate. Had he not entered into the Oil For Palaces program (http://tinyurl.com/bsd2), but rather built up the country's electrical grid, or sewers, or hospitals, or schools, the infrastructure would not have deteriorated in the first place. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:26:37 -0700 From: "cmb adams" Subject: Re: Iraqotopia (WAS: Re: REAP) On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:31:04 -0800 (PST), bayard wrote: > I just want to say one thing about the war, then I'll pipe down. > Yes, it's horrible that so many innocents have died. But... > remember the sanctions? Weren't they killing many times as many > people as the war did? The sanctions were multilateral and they > caused the most harm to the very poorest, sickest, hungriest Iraqis, > while doing little or nothing to Saddam and his cronies. The war > was the only way the US would have allowed them to be lifted. If > there is even a chance that we can make things better in Iraq, > shouldn't we? Especially when Saddam was largely of our making and > especially since Bush I made a promise to free Iraq the first time > around? I know this war was sold to us under false (or at the very > least, exaggerated) pretenses, and I know it is primarily being > waged for self-interested reasons. That is plain. But even still, > is there not hope, esp. with talk of the UN being brought back into > the loop? a good and persuasive argument. perhaps a little overly optimistic in its dismissal of the little corporate piggies who are each going to want a turn to belly up to the trough, but one that at least has some hope of working out. > If we can help those we formerly harmed - even if it hurts for a > short time longer - aren't we obliged to try? I dunno...we could ask the people we're supposedly helping whether they want our help. I mean, they didn't invite the US to come "liberate" them, but perhaps they weren't in a position to. now that they are supposedly liberated, maybe we could ask them (in the form of some sort of national referendum) whether they want Our Boys to stay there and keep on "liberating" them, or whether they'd just as soon be left alone to sort shit out for themselves. "oh, but that's logistically difficult!" well, yeah. but it's also logistically difficult keeping up the occupation (to say nothing of the difficulties of setting up the invasion to begin with). "but what if they vote us out and vote in somebody we don't like?" well, good question. but isn't that their right? it seems to me that we can either say "we're doing this because it's in our national best interest. we want what they've got, and we want leaders there who are going to be in our pocket" or "we're doing this in the interest of human rights and democracy". either one is a legitimate reason (or maybe not all that legitimate, but at least honest), but I don't think you can have it both ways. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:30:03 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Reap, actual Reap Though others probably beat me to it -- Bob Keeshan. I saw him live on some tour as Capt. Kangaroo when I was about 5. My daughter had her picture taken w/ him in the early 90s (not in costume). He took a stance against images of violence & racism in broadcasting, & he had some of the same quietness as Mr. Rogers, something children actually like. - --- Which Post Punk Idol? I was conciously trying to be Robyn & I ended up as Julian Cope -- pretty close I guess. Ross Taylor Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:53:24 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Oddball songwriting credit question So, if you're adding verses to someone else's song, at what point do you get a co-writing credit despite the fact that, say, Woodie Guthrie almost certainly didn't want some asshole adding words about the Internet to his songs decades after he was dead or whatever? I can think of some anecdotal answers to this, but they're sort of conflicting. For one thing, parodies (when they're retitled and substantially lyrically reworked, at least) are usually credited as being "co-written" by the parodist and the original artist. And generally when an artist writes a song consisting of a borrowed melody (and they realize it), they include that artist in the credit (as in that song on "Up" that borrows the melody from "Suzanne" and is credited to Buck/Cohen/Mills/Stipe). But... it seems to me, although I can't put my finger on an example, I've seen writing credits like "S. Barrett, with additional verses by Jay Z". Conversely, I don't think Malkmus sings a single one of the original lyrics on Pavement's cover of "Camera", but I'm pretty sure he didn't take a writing credit, either. Seems like there's a lot of individual discretion involved, but that seems odd given that there's a business/money/legal/copyright component to crediting, right? I'm mildly curious as to how such royalties shake down, but mostly just when/if the co-writing credit becomes possible, if not necessary for radically reworked songs... y'know, how it's administered and that kinda thing. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:52:20 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Fwd: Penguin-based productivity enhancer On Jan 23, 2004, at 11:40 AM, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > My best distance so far is 319.1. Top that, I dare ya. I was in the upper 500 range yesterday from a different location (there are at least 3 different sites where it now can be found) Here's another snow-based game that's pretty fun and addicting: http://www.nny.com/holiday/snowcraft.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:10:40 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: The onion's state's turned. It's starting to stink On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, cmb adams wrote: > in fact, if anyone in the PNW is going to this loony event > (http://www.laptopbattle.org) tonight, I'd be happy to hoist a few with > you there! Oh, I'd love to see that... but The Decembrists are at Nocturnal tonight. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:10:20 -0600 From: "Jonathan Krall" Subject: Re: Robyn 4-14-95 torrent at sharingthegroove > I am currently seeding this show ar www.sharingthegroove.org. cool! I'll get going on this tonight and leave the window open as long as I can. Is there any artwork for this one? Jonathan PS I did up some artwork for the bottom line shows (2003-10-31); write if you'd like it. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #24 *******************************