From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #21 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 22 2004 Volume 13 : Number 021 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fwd: Audities 2003 poll results [Eb ] Re: several answers, all at once [Christopher Gross ] more divers alarums [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] RE: naive naive naive ["Matt Sewell" ] Philly dope dealers [Jill Brand ] Re: Philly dope dealers ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Philly dope dealers [Capuchin ] Re: Audities 2003 poll results [steve ] Re: REAP ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Philly dope dealers ["Jonathan Fetter" ] please unsubscribe..thanks [RichCorrao@aol.com] Re: FW: more medi[a]eval movies [John McIntyre ] RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? ["Iosso, Ken" ] Re: REAP ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: REAP ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: REAP ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: please unsubscribe..thanks [Christopher Gross ] RE: please unsubscribe..thanks ["Matt Sewell" ] war casualties (was Re: REAP) [Christopher Gross ] Post-Punk Idol: new reality show? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: please unsubscribe..thanks [Miles Goosens ] Re: please unsubscribe..thanks [Miles Goosens ] RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? ["Fortissimo" ] Re: Post-Punk Idol: new reality show? [Jeff Dwarf ] Wow, this is hilarious! (attn Pitchfork readers) [Eb ] Re: Wow, this is hilarious! (attn Pitchfork readers) [Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Fwd: Audities 2003 poll results >OK, how many just on this list are better than the winner? Bleh. It was a 100% foregone conclusion that Fountains of Wayne would win that poll. On the other hand, the list isn't quite as tunnelvisioned as some past polls I've seen...only five or six cult-dork-pop acts in the top 20? And OutKast even ranked? Mildly encouraging. Has anyone heard/bought that Japan-only Matthew Sweet album? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:24:03 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: several answers, all at once On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, James Dignan wrote: > oh, and a movie I suggested off-list, but - since it's become an ongoing > thread here UI'll suggest on-list as well - The Advocate. Colin Firth as a > lawyer told to defend a pig against an accusation of witchcraft. Please! The pig was accused of murder. Trying a pig for *witchcraft* would be silly. :) - --another Ian Curtis ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:02:08 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: more divers alarums >>I'm reminded of the abbreviation "w/k end", which a coworker of mine used >>to replace "weekend", for a total savings of zero keystrokes. sorry, but w/k is "without knowing" around here. If I said I was "going to see LOTR:ROTK, this w/k end", I'd mean that I'd seeing it despite not knowing what happens at the end. >Subject: Re: REAP > >I must strenuously object to the sacred "REAP" subject line being >twisted for unrelated political means. ;) > >Eb of course you must,m Eb... blame whoever reaped Gephart's chances this way in the first place. ;) >> I'd vote for Reagan over GWB in a heartbeat if those >> were the only two viable candidates. I do not think >> Reagan, GHWB, or Gore would have invaded Iraq like >> GWB did. careful - our Prime Minister got in a political stink for proclaiming that she didn't think Gore would have invaded Iraq. (Quite right too - Gore is a country town of only 8,000 people. They wouldn't have stood a chance). To misquote Dire Straits (yikes!): "Two men say they're Ian Curtis - one of them must be wrong." James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:24:58 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: naive naive naive Big-faced zombie Kerry is only in the race because he quite obviously wants to eat America's brainssssss.... Cheers Matt >From: Dolph Chaney > >I get the feeling this is a naive position of me to have, but I'm >glad Kerry won Iowa. > >-- Dolph >aka "Julian Cope of The Teardrop Explodes. Hallucinogen-addled and >dangerous with microphones. Becomes even stranger as time >progresses, but still awesome nonetheless. " - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reduce spam in your inbox with MSN 8's intelligent junk e-mail filters. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:24:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Philly dope dealers Jeme, my point was that there is extremely easy access to drugs in Reading - - that's it. It was not a pronouncement on blame, a vindication of addicts, or anything remotely similar. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:44:07 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Philly dope dealers On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:24:44 -0500 (EST), "Jill Brand" said: > Jeme, my point was that there is extremely easy access to drugs in > Reading > - that's it. It was not a pronouncement on blame, a vindication of > addicts, or anything remotely similar. While I'd agree that Jeme's reaction failed to emphasize the likelihood that you didn't intend what he said your message implied (howzat for tortured syntax?), it's certainly the case that we too often imagine the "drug problem" in this country as one of *sellers* - mostly poor and, when they're arrested, non-white - rather than of *buyers* (without whom etc.) - and who quite often are not so poor and more white. "Urban" or names of cities are coded under the first category. Blacks *use* illegal drugs at slightly lower rates than whites do - and yet they're imprisoned at far higher rates. Just this morning, a local newspaper columnist pointed out that in Wisconsin, in nearly every county, there are higher rates of blacks in jail than in the population . In one county, 32% of inmates were black...whereas only 0.2% of county residents were. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:12:50 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Philly dope dealers On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Jill Brand wrote: > Jeme, my point was that there is extremely easy access to drugs in > Reading - that's it. It was not a pronouncement on blame, a vindication > of addicts, or anything remotely similar. Yeah, Jill... what Jeff said. That is, I didn't mean that to read like it was picking YOU apart for writing what you wrote, just that I thought the whole idea (put forward by someone else... Jon Fetter? Chris Gross?) that the drug problem in Reading was related to access by dealers from Philly is, well, all those things Jeffrey wrote. I hope your friend's daughter gets on a better course. But I don't think that moving to another town will have much of a long-term effect. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:38:17 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Audities 2003 poll results On Jan 21, 2004, at 8:47 PM, Eb wrote: > Has anyone heard/bought that Japan-only Matthew Sweet album? It's out in the U.S. now. On the In Reverse/100% Fun level, which means I like it. - - Steve __________ When I watch the Fox News channel, I can't believe how much nerve those people have and how they assume that people are just going to swallow that shit. - Thom Yorke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:55:17 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: REAP Hmm... 9/11 attacks - I'd say they were evil. Therefore I'd say the man widely held to be responsible (Bin Laden) for the 3,000 or so deaths is evil. Iraq's oppressive regime since 1979 (?) - I'd say the regime was evil - thousands of people dead or tortured and imprisoned; a gas attack on a town, killing nearly everyone there. Therefore I'd say the perpetrator of these acts and the head of the regime (Saddam) would be evil (actually I'd also say the people responsible for nurturing the regime and supplying it with all the weapons of mass destruction were evil too, so that includes dear old Rummy). The war on Iraq - 10,000+ Iraqis dead, the vast majority of that number being civilians... now, why isn't this evil? Cheers Matt >From: FSThomas >Reply-To: FSThomas >CC: "Squidmaniax!" >Subject: Re: REAP >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:55:06 -0500 > >Capuchin wrote: > >>Something does not become NOT evil just because there is a MORE >>EVIL >>alternative. > >"Not evil." > >I can think of a lot of things that could possibly qualify as "evil" >in this world. None of the candidates or the incumbent, in my mind, >would qualify as "evil." > >Just because something is distasteful, personally offensive, or >possibly objectionalbe, does not by default render it evil. > >-ferris. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reduce spam in your inbox with MSN 8's intelligent junk e-mail filters. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:57:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Philly dope dealers On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:24:44 -0500 (EST), Jill Brand wrote : > Jeme, my point was that there is extremely easy access to drugs in Reading > - that's it. It was not a pronouncement on blame, a vindication of > addicts, or anything remotely similar. > > Jill This was my point too--Reading is about an hour up the turnpike from Philly. Thus I mentioned Philly, not New York or Washington (and I just threw it in as one of the many problems facing these decaying towns). If I was in that kind of business and wanted to expand my market, I'd select a potential market nearby than one further away to which to send my sales reps. I think if somehow Reading PA could be dropped into the middle of say, North Dakota, as is, the addiction problem would remain the same but the easy access to the real nasties like crack and heroin would be diminished, replaced by glue and sterno (which of course are very nasty too). Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:26:49 -0500 From: RichCorrao@aol.com Subject: please unsubscribe..thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:38:11 -0500 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: FW: more medi[a]eval movies Bachman, Michael wrote: >one of the greatest silent movies of all time. The extreme close-ups of the actors >faces and the haunting expressions on them are a marvel. Someone found a pristine film >copy of it in a Norwegian mental institution, and the DVD was cut from that found >treasure. Highly recommended. > > The Passion of Joan also shows up in the movie Henry and June, as well one of my >my favorite French New Wave films, My Life To Live. > > > I'm going to have to disagree with Michael and warn people that _The Passion of Joan of Arc_ is about the trial of Joan only, it is long, and like all of Carl Dreyer's pictures that I have seen, the pacing is ssslllooowww. The only "action" comes at the very end as the peasants riot at the execution. I used to have a gig providing live soundtracks for silent movies at a local theater (the theater is now a Chinese restaurant, which is why I no longer have the gig) and playing for _The Passion of Joan of Arc_ was a real challenge as for the first two hours it's pretty much just talking heads and intertitles. John McIntyre mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:44:21 -0600 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? Turns out, I'm Paul Westerberg. I don't think Mancunian dirge bands represent the entire "Post-punk idol" universe. But maybe I'm just oversensitive - which might mean I'm Ian Curtis after all. Ken Iosso - -----Original Message----- From: Maximilian Lang [mailto:maximlang@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:25 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? >From: "Brian" >To: "Eat Sausages and Yams" >Subject: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:40:37 -0500 > >Who knew? I'm Ian Curtis. > > Me too. Max _________________________________________________________________ High-speed usersbe more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:06:57 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: REAP Matt Sewell wrote: > > 9/11 attacks - I'd say they were evil. Therefore I'd say the man widely > held to be responsible (Bin Laden) for the 3,000 or so deaths is evil. Agreed. > Iraq's oppressive regime since 1979 (?) - I'd say the regime was evil - > thousands of people dead or tortured and imprisoned; a gas attack on a > town, killing nearly everyone there. Therefore I'd say the perpetrator of > these acts and the head of the regime (Saddam) would be evil (actually > I'd also say the people responsible for nurturing the regime and > supplying it with all the weapons of mass destruction were evil too, so > that includes dear old Rummy). Agreed. > The war on Iraq - 10,000+ Iraqis dead, the vast majority of that number > being civilians... now, why isn't this evil? I honestly don't know about that number, and will concede that, while it sounds high, may very well be true. While no one may ever know for sure, I wonder what was the cause of these casualties. What statistical portion was caused by errant munitions? Wrong-place-wrong-time? Being corralled around valid military targets by your government? It's tragic when anyone--in or out of a uniform--dies in violence. The converse of this is that little is ever gained (or lost) without sacrifice. This, of course, works both ways. Considering events like the American Revolution, WWs I & II, and even on-going struggles such as the IRA and Islamic Jihad. The value the participants place on the motives behind their actions predicates the level of loss they're willing to suffer. Were the Iraqis given the chance to weigh in on the decision to topple their government? Hussein saw to it that they did not. On a different track, what of the ineffective U.N.? Had they done their job in the first place and held the former Iraqi regime to the letter of the countless resolutions, not one of us would be in the situation we're in today. Are they an evil Institution, or just plain sad? While I do not for a moment doubt that the peoples of Iraq and the entire Middle East are better without Hussein than they were with, I wish call to arms came under different circumstances. The first time a coalition plane was locked onto and/or fired upon in the no-fly zone, the hammers of Hell should've fallen. The WMD argument, while I'm sure time will prove at least somewhat valid, just isn't strong enough. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:09:59 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: REAP Repulsed, Eb Abhors Politics...? Cheers Matt >From: Eb >Reply-To: Eb >To: fgz >Subject: Re: REAP >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:28:30 -0800 > >I must strenuously object to the sacred "REAP" subject line being >twisted for unrelated political means. ;) > >Eb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to MSN 8 today for a better internet experience and save over 25% on the usual price! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:50:18 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: REAP At 04:09 PM 1/22/2004 +0000, Matt Sewell wrote: >Repulsed, Eb Abhors Politics...? Reasonable. Everyone always pontificates. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:35:52 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: REAP Heheh - Really Entertaining, Amusing Post! Cheers Matt >From: "Jason R. Thornton" >>Repulsed, Eb Abhors Politics...? > >Reasonable. Everyone always pontificates. > > > >--Jason > > "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." > - Sherwood Anderson - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to MSN 8 today for a better internet experience and save over 25% on the usual price! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:45:22 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: please unsubscribe..thanks Huh! This makes me realize how long it's been since some clueless person sent an unsubcribe request to the whole list. Maybe, in some ways, the world is getting better.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:47:41 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: please unsubscribe..thanks Well, I didn't think my posts were that bad! Or does he mean *all* of us..? Cheers Matt >From: RichCorrao@aol.com >Reply-To: RichCorrao@aol.com >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: please unsubscribe..thanks >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:26:49 -0500 > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a free connection, half-price modem and one month FREE, when you sign up for BT Broadband today! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:08:01 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: war casualties (was Re: REAP) > > The war on Iraq - 10,000+ Iraqis dead, the vast majority of that number > > being civilians... now, why isn't this evil? I don't want to get into this debate as a whole (very busy day today), but what's your source for the "vast majority" of Iraqi dead being civilians? Pretty much every study I've seen mentioned, *including* those from antiwar sources, puts civilian deaths at less than half of total Iraqi deaths. Civilian deaths did outnumber military in the battle for Baghdad (by which time the Iraqi military had mostly fallen apart), but not in the war as a whole. Of course all this stuff is just based on estimates anyway.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:24:12 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Post-Punk Idol: new reality show? Brian: > I'm David Thomas from Pere Ubu, which is weird cuz I > don't really like them (nor dislike them; what I've > heard from them always just left me non-plussed one > way or the other). Looks like there are a small number of matches (equal to the number of answers to each question?) and a weird definition of "post-punk" (like all such definitions, I guess) at work. One of the bands you could choose to be "influenced" by is Pere Ubu, and yet Dave Thomas is one of the possible outcomes? Weird. Lot of Ian Curti 'round here. Bit of a stretch. I'd say we'd almost all come out Robyn if it were possible. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:02:52 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: please unsubscribe..thanks one time at band camp, Christopher Gross (chrisg@gwu.edu) said: >Huh! This makes me realize how long it's been since some clueless person >sent an unsubcribe request to the whole list. Maybe, in some ways, the >world is getting better.... no, majordomo prevents most of those from slipping through. the only ones that get by are those where commands are not spelled correctly or, as the case this time, the command was in the subject header and not the message body. i'm sure this thrills everyone. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:22:41 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: please unsubscribe..thanks At 10:45 AM 1/22/2004 -0500, Christopher Gross wrote: >Huh! This makes me realize how long it's been since some clueless person >sent an unsubcribe request to the whole list. Maybe, in some ways, the >world is getting better.... Hee! On my smoe.org list, I have list command filters in place, which occasionally catch posts that innocently use list commands in the early lines (for example, "which" and "who"), but more relevantly, catch those "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" messages sent to the list. idealcopyists aren't smarter; they're just filtered that way... ;-) But since all the feg messages on this topic just went through, I'm assuming that woj doesn't emply such mechanisms -- which would mean that we're all f'in brilliant nowadays, whooo! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:34:08 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: please unsubscribe..thanks >But since all the feg messages on this topic just went through, I'm >assuming that woj doesn't emply such mechanisms -- which would mean >that we're all f'in brilliant nowadays, whooo! check the headers, boy-o! they went through because i okayed 'em. feg has the administrivia setting set as well. +w ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:40:59 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: please unsubscribe..thanks At 01:34 PM 1/22/2004 -0500, fingerpuppets wrote: >>But since all the feg messages on this topic just went through, I'm >>assuming that woj doesn't emply such mechanisms -- which would mean >>that we're all f'in brilliant nowadays, whooo! > >check the headers, boy-o! they went through because i okayed 'em. feg >has the administrivia setting set as well. OK! Then everyone can save woj some work by spelling things with asterisks or such (ex: "uns*bscribe") or discussing that Daltrey/Townshend project "The Wh*"... :-) sheepishly, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:42:58 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Are 'friends' electric? robyn covering gary numan? woo! woj - ----- Forwarded message from Terry Edwards ----- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:53:17 +0000 Subject: Are 'friends' electric? From: Terry Edwards To: Greetings - Hope this is of interest to you & various other Fegmaniax. Just thought you'd like to know about a soon-come record release, and I thought I'd extend the 'pre-release' availability to Robyn fans. "Queer Street" is a double CD out next month featuring Robyn with Morris Windsor, Kimberley Rew, Paul Noble on track 6 alongside the following:- Disc One - No fish is too weird for her aquarium vol. III (1981-2003) 01 The Driver - James Johnston & Terry Edwards ( 03'05") 02 Cut Up - Left Hand ( 02'17") 03 Wicked - New York New York ( 03'08") 04 TB Sheets - Lydia Lunch & Terry Edwards ( 04'47") 05 Split - The Higsons ( 03'34") 06 Are 'friends' electric? - Robyn Hitchcock ( 04'44") 07 The Good Intent - M*E*W ( 03'10") 08 Tuned & Lit - Terry Edwards ( 06'20") 09 The Knife - Terry Edwards & David Coulter ( 02'08") 10 Thinking with the window open - Brian Warner ( 01'34") 11 Phoenix City - BUtterfield 8 ( 02'40") 12 Bohemian Rhapsody - Serious Drinking ( 03'20") Disc Two - Terry Edwards and the Scapegoats' 4th Peel Session (1999) 01 Ace of spades ( 2'38") 02 Detroit ( 2'08") 03 Creosote ( 3'22") 04 Spill the beans ( 8'57") Further details - http://www.terryedwards.co.uk It's in the shops from Feb 16th, but is available by mail order straight away. All prices are in pounds sterling and include postage & packing:- UK - #14.00 Europe - #16.00 Rest of World - #17.50 Credit/debit cards via https://www.paypal.com account name info@terryedwards.co.uk Alternatively please make cheques payable to TD Edwards. Send to PO Box 30608, London E1 1TS Advertisement over! Happy New Year - Terry Edwards. - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:49:27 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:44:21 -0600, "Iosso, Ken" said: > Turns out, I'm Paul Westerberg. I don't think Mancunian dirge bands > represent the entire "Post-punk idol" universe. But maybe I'm just > oversensitive - which might mean I'm Ian Curtis after all.> What I don't get about this is, how do people end up "being" anyone anyway? The "answers" are so specific, either you know who they're talking about, or you don't, in which case it's just a random puzzling remark which you assume delineates the character of someone the quizmaker thinks is a post-punk icon. People aren't actually saying, this answer sounds like me, are they? Okay, okay - so I have no idea how to have fun. Shoot me now. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:07:25 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Post-Punk Idol: new reality show? "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Brian: > > I'm David Thomas from Pere Ubu, which is weird cuz I > > don't really like them (nor dislike them; what I've > > heard from them always just left me non-plussed one > > way or the other). We should return the blame for that to me. > Looks like there are a small number of matches (equal to > the number of answers to each question?) and a weird > definition of "post-punk" (like all such definitions, I > guess) at work. One of the bands you could choose to be > "influenced" by is Pere Ubu, and yet Dave Thomas is one > of the possible outcomes? Weird. > > Lot of Ian Curti 'round here. Bit of a stretch. I'd say > we'd almost all come out Robyn if it were possible. The odd thing is, with all these Ian Curtes (oasis/oases, crisis/crises; Curtis/Curtes) around is that you're all not dead! ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:18:48 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Wow, this is hilarious! (attn Pitchfork readers) Check out http://www.subpop.com ! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:20:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: FW: more medi[a]eval movies >I'm going to have to disagree with Michael and warn people that _The >Passion of Joan of Arc_ is about the trial of Joan only, it is long, >and like all of Carl Dreyer's pictures that I have seen, the pacing >is ssslllooowww. Slow ain't necessarily bad.... Coincidentally, I was trying to convert a stubborn, stubborn, stubborn friend to silent films just a couple of days ago, and found this link: http://www.silentera.com/info/top100.html A great list, I think, though I apparently didn't like Sunrise as much as I "should." And The Passion of Joan of Arc places very high on the list. Note: To me, this film's cinematography comes off *startlingly* modern, compared with most silent films. >I used to have a gig providing live soundtracks for silent movies at >a local theater Wow! More details, please. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Wow, this is hilarious! (attn Pitchfork readers) Eb wrote: > Check out http://www.subpop.com ! That'll learn'em to only give Chutes Too Narrow an 8.9!!! ;) ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:36:26 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Wow, this is hilarious! (attn Pitchfork readers) Eb wrote: > Check out http://www.subpop.com ! That'll learn'em to only give Chutes Too Narrow an 8.9!!! ;) ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:36:24 -0600 From: "John J. Brassil" Subject: The Robyn and the Bluebird Photos from the January 13th show at: http://www.vanderbilt.edu/~jbrassil/photos/040113robyn.html No luck finding online contact info for the Bluebird on their website, so if someone knows how to let them know, please do. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:48:40 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: FW: more medi[a]eval movies - -- Eb is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2004 12:20 Uhr -0800 regarding Re: FW: more medi[a]eval movies: > Coincidentally, I was trying to convert a stubborn, stubborn, stubborn > friend to silent films just a couple of days ago, and found this link: > http://www.silentera.com/info/top100.html A great list, I think, though > I apparently didn't like Sunrise as much as I "should." And The Passion > of Joan of Arc places very high on the list. Unfortunately I know neither, although I've seen 8 out of the top 20. Below that I've only seen a handful ... Where do you watch silent movies? You can sometimes catch them on TV in Germany, but apart from that it isn't easy. Cologne has unfortunately become art theater diaspora during the last decade ... :-( - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #21 *******************************