From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #20 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, January 21 2004 Volume 13 : Number 020 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? [Eb ] RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? ["Bachman, Michael" ] tell me about your junk foods ["ross taylor" ] Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Admittedly it was a weird-looking guitarfish to find in the woods... ["Re] FW: more medi[a]eval movies ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: REAP [FSThomas ] Re: tell me about your junk foods ["ross taylor" ] Re: FW: more medi[a]eval movies [Eb ] RE: REAP ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: REAP [Christopher Gross ] Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? [Tom Clark ] Re: REAP [Eb ] RE: REAP [Jeff Dwarf ] naive naive naive [Dolph Chaney ] Grieben, griveners, and Reading dope dealers [Jill Brand ] several answers, all at once [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Grieben, griveners, and Reading dope dealers [Capuchin ] RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? ["Maximilian Lang" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:00:35 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? >Who knew? I'm Ian Curtis. > > Weird. I got Rosey Grier. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:04:42 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? I am: Jon King from Gang of Four. Lead singer of the legendary Leeds band who went from post-punk to R&B in three years. Is it love? But I know it's only lust... Paste this code into your web page to show off your result to others: Michael B. - -----Original Message----- From: Brian [mailto:nightshadecat@mailbolt.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:41 PM To: Eat Sausages and Yams Subject: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? Who knew? I'm Ian Curtis. - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:49:56 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: more medi[a]eval movies Thanks for all the movie suggestions and helpful links; and if you think of any more, please keep posting 'em! You reminded me of a couple of movies I had forgotten and brought up a number that I hadn't even heard of. Depending on how many movies my friend wants to watch, my first suggestions will probably be The Name of the Rose, Becket, and The Advocate, as having the best combination of period detail, variety of setting and theme, and ready availability at Blockbuster. If she can stand more, my next suggestions will probably include The Lion in Winter, The Return of Martin Guerre, maybe Branagh's Henry V, and most of the others you guys mentioned; plus Excalibur as my favorite version of the Arthurian legends, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail just on general principles. Unfortunately, some of the suggestions that intrigued me the most, like Flesh & Blood, Second Sight, and Brother Sun Sister Moon, look like they will be hard to find. Hardly anyone mentioned The Messenger, the Joan of Arc flick starring Mila Jovovich. Any opinions? I haven't seen it myself, and have heard widely varying reviews. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:38:14 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: tell me about your junk foods I used to love Krispy Kreme d-nuts, & I suppose someday I will again, but I was put off of them by a woman who briefly worked here. She was a perfectly, uh, sweet person, but she was sooo fat. I'm fat & think I have health problems because of it, but she was worse -- much bigger for her height (short, like me) much younger than me (20s?) had problems w/ her legs, feet, clothes, fitting in chairs etc. She was from a rough inner city background & was unable to deal w/ standard English. She always smelled bad, & everyone noticed. She just seemed so unlucky. She had some deal where she could order boxes of Krispy Kremes & bring them in for people, so she was always pushing them, waxing rhapsodic about them like they were the high point of her life. So I've been giving them a break for at least a year. There's also the weird thing about McDonald's fries, how they can be deadly tempting while they're *fresh hot* but as soon as the temp drops below a certain point they turn into greasy cardboard or something. Within two minutes or so the experience of eating them goes from lightning to the lightning bug. Speaking of junk, & sort of apropos of Rex asking about dope, I've never touched heroin, only done cocaine a couple of times & it didn't do much for me. I know some people who "experimented with" heroin in their youth, but they've been understandably loathe [sp?] to discuss it in depth. Typically they tried it in late teens to 20s, & are late 30s to 50s now. It's kinda hard to tell if "experimenting" means shot up once or twice to see what it felt like (actually I do know one person did that) or had months to a year of semi-junkie-dom. Anyway, they all have liver problems. One person died of hers a couple of years ago. I don't know what the connection is or if there is one -- maybe they also drank a lot, but none seem like they've had years of alchoholism [sp?]. Just thought I'd connect that with favorite fun snack foods, cheerful guy that I am. Ross Taylor "Spiders and Snakes" by Jim Stafford -- a drug song? Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:51 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? - -- Eb is rumored to have mumbled on Mittwoch, 21. Januar 2004 13:00 Uhr -0800 regarding Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You?: >> Who knew? I'm Ian Curtis. >> >> > -Punk%20Era%20Frontman%20Are%20You%3F/> > > Weird. I got Rosey Grier. "Jon King from Gang of Four. Lead singer of the legendary Leeds band who went from post-punk to R&B in three years. Is it love? But I know it's only lust..." I've always heard they were good, but I don't believe I ever heard anything by them. Any recommendations? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:56:45 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: tell me about your junk foods On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, ross taylor wrote: > I used to love Krispy Kreme d-nuts, I'm reminded of the abbreviation "w/k end", which a coworker of mine used to replace "weekend", for a total savings of zero keystrokes. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:01:17 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Admittedly it was a weird-looking guitarfish to find in the woods... Chris: >>Aside from knocking Gephardt out of contention, I doubt the Iowa >>caucus means much. New Hampshire's primary next week should give us >>a much more accurate idea of who would do better in the actual election. The caucus itself may not mean much, but I do feel Dean did himself in with his reaction to his crappy showing. This was the first big national spotlight on the field (for Joe Couch Potato, that is), and all we've heard about is Dean Dean Dean, and he not only finished a distant third but acted like a *nut* on national TV thereafter and has become something of a national joke as a result... that sound bite of his insane whoop during his post-caucus rant has been on all kinds of morning shows, news satires, websites, etc... it just looked bad. And now everyone's watching him to see what craziness he gets up to next, even the non-politically inclined, I've noticed amongst friends and acquaintances. Can anyone point me to a post-Iowa poll on how New Hampshire's leaning at this point? I bet it's way different from this time last week. Miles: >>I would have linked to the Keyser paper's story (which actually came up >>high on the Google News search), but it and my second choice, the >>Bluefield DAILY SMELLOGRAPH (well, that's what we Welch DAILY >>NEWS employees called it), had some funky problem with their archives Goldurn... I wonder what's in the Mineral Daily News Tribune's *archive*. I've been on the front page of that rag more times than I could quickly calculate. But then, so has a roadkill possum that got painted over by the state road crew, and a cat-chewed dessicated guitarfish found in the woods and widely believed to be the remains of an alien or some other mystical creature for a few weeks back in '87 or so. I'm Ian Curtis, too... who are the other possible hits? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:59:03 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: FW: more medi[a]eval movies Chris wrote: >Hardly anyone mentioned The Messenger, the Joan of Arc flick starring Mila >Jovovich. Any opinions? I haven't seen it myself, and have heard widely >varying reviews. Didn't see that one. I do have The Passion of Joan DVD on Criterion. Certainly one of the greatest silent movies of all time. The extreme close-ups of the actors faces and the haunting expressions on them are a marvel. Someone found a pristine film copy of it in a Norwegian mental institution, and the DVD was cut from that found treasure. Highly recommended. The Passion of Joan also shows up in the movie Henry and June, as well one of my my favorite French New Wave films, My Life To Live. Michael B. NP the psychedelic sounds of The 13th Floor Elevators ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:07:05 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: maediaeval movies Considering the anachronisms one sees in movies about the 60s, I try to suspend disbelief for movies set long ago. However, Bergman's "Seventh Seal" is fun despite the hype & does give some of the effect of mixing things like the Canterbury Tales w/ modern narrative. I also like his "Virgin Spring," (set in the same period) which I don't remember well (the movie, not les Moyens Ages) but I think was more mundane & less sweeping in its story (here's gratuitus parentheses). I suspect Polanski's "Macbeth" gives a good feeling (well an awful feeling, but a believable one) of those times. John Boorman's "Excalibur." Fantasy, but on point. My daughter & I rather enjoyed reading "Timeline" together -- wonder if the film's any good? Ross Taylor "Twas on the high, high holy day the very best day of the year that little Matty Groves went to something or other the holy words for to hear the holy words for to hear" Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:07:52 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? "Jon King from Gang of Four. Lead singer of the legendary Leeds band who went from post-punk to R&B in three years. Is it love? But I know it's only lust..." >I've always heard they were good, but I don't believe I ever heard anything >by them. Any recommendations? I would start off with Entertainment, from 1979. Songs of the Free from 1982 is also good. Solid Gold is also a winner, but it is paired up with Hard on CD, and Hard is anything but. They broke up after Hard came out in 1983. Another band that I like that sounds somewhat like Gang of Four, is Au Pairs. Both of them are on URGH! A Music War. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:29:30 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? I appear to be mostly Julian Cope, but if the questions are in order, they're wrong -- Copey's [technically] Welsh. And they've got a dereferencing bug in their Perl code, fools. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:45:53 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: REAP On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Christopher Gross wrote: > I'd agree with Jeff's comments this morning but go even further: even > Reagan would be an improvement on our current president. Heck, even the > Reagan of 2004, nearly brain-dead from Alzheimer's, would be an > improvement.... All that might be true (though I don't think Bush is doing anything that his father or Reagan wouldn't also be doing today... or Al Gore, for that matter), but does that mean you'd VOTE FOR Reagan? Something does not become NOT evil just because there is a MORE EVIL alternative. Vote for a good person. Vote somebody you'd LIKE to see win. Otherwise, you're just pushing us further down. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:55:06 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: REAP Capuchin wrote: > Something does not become NOT evil just because there is a MORE EVIL > alternative. "Not evil." I can think of a lot of things that could possibly qualify as "evil" in this world. None of the candidates or the incumbent, in my mind, would qualify as "evil." Just because something is distasteful, personally offensive, or possibly objectionalbe, does not by default render it evil. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:59:58 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Re: tell me about your junk foods But there's always "ugh" in Krispy Kreme Doughnuts! Oh well. Ross Taylor - -- - --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:56:45 From: Aaron Mandel To: ross taylor Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org >On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, ross taylor wrote: > >> I used to love Krispy Kreme d-nuts, > >I'm reminded of the abbreviation "w/k end", which a coworker of mine used >to replace "weekend", for a total savings of zero keystrokes. > >a > Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:07:58 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: FW: more medi[a]eval movies > Didn't see that one. I do have The Passion of Joan DVD on >Criterion. Certainly >one of the greatest silent movies of all time. The extreme close-ups >of the actors >faces and the haunting expressions on them are a marvel. Someone >found a pristine film >copy of it in a Norwegian mental institution, and the DVD was cut >from that found >treasure. Highly recommended. I was just telling SOMEONE (harumph) that this film is really excellent...she wasn't convinced, however. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:11 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: REAP > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Christopher Gross wrote: > > I'd agree with Jeff's comments this morning but go even further: even > > Reagan would be an improvement on our current president. Heck, even the > > Reagan of 2004, nearly brain-dead from Alzheimer's, would be an > > improvement.... > > All that might be true (though I don't think Bush is doing anything that > his father or Reagan wouldn't also be doing today... or Al Gore, for that > matter), but does that mean you'd VOTE FOR Reagan? I'd vote for Reagan over GWB in a heartbeat if those were the only two viable candidates. I do not think Reagan, GHWB, or Gore would have invaded Iraq like GWB did. > Something does not become NOT evil just because there is a MORE EVIL > alternative. For starters no one currently running for president is evil in my mind. But even if it was a choice between evil and less evil. It makes sense to me to vote for the less evil candidate. The less evil candidate will do less harm to my country. > Vote for a good person. Vote somebody you'd LIKE to see win. Otherwise, > you're just pushing us further down. Sure, that's a nice sentiment. But it's also incredibly naive and not always possible in a winner take all system. I think my political beliefs are not in line with of the views of a wide majority of voters in this country. Voting for someone that precisely matches my views is far less important than voting against the most objectionable candidate. BTW I do think that all four of the major Democratic candidates (Kerry, Clark, Edwards, and Dean) are "good" people. And I'd like to see them all win, so that makes voting all the easier. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:00:42 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? Brian wrote: > Who knew? I'm Ian Curtis. > > > > I'm David Thomas from Pere Ubu, which is weird cuz I don't really like them (nor dislike them; what I've heard from them always just left me non-plussed one way or the other). I was hoping I was Ian McCulloch. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:09:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Brian wrote: > > Who knew? I'm Ian Curtis. > > > > > I'm David Thomas from Pere Ubu, which is weird cuz I > don't really like them (nor dislike them; what I've > heard from them always just left me non-plussed one > way or the other). I was hoping I was Ian McCulloch. Non-plussed one way or the other? Urgghhhh.... ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:20:51 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: REAP On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Capuchin wrote: > > I'd agree with Jeff's comments this morning but go even further: even > > Reagan would be an improvement on our current president. Heck, even the > > Reagan of 2004, nearly brain-dead from Alzheimer's, would be an > > improvement.... > > All that might be true (though I don't think Bush is doing anything that > his father or Reagan wouldn't also be doing today... or Al Gore, for that > matter), but does that mean you'd VOTE FOR Reagan? Actually, I just threw in that paragraph to make a lame joke about a man nearly brain-dead from Alzheimer's still being preferrable to Bush. An unfunny joke, perhaps, but a joke nevertheless, not to be taken seriously. To me, saying Al Gore, had he become president, would have done just what W. has done is like saying that Ian Curtis, had he lived, would have become a successful hiphop impressario: I think it's a ridiculous idea, but since it's an unprovable hypothetical, we might as well just stick to our respective opinions, especially since I'm not interested in arguing it with you anyway. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:12:53 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? on 1/21/04 4:09 PM, Jeff Dwarf at munki1972@yahoo.com wrote: >> I'm David Thomas from Pere Ubu, which is weird cuz I >> don't really like them (nor dislike them; what I've >> heard from them always just left me non-plussed one >> way or the other). I was hoping I was Ian McCulloch. > > Non-plussed one way or the other? Urgghhhh.... See, Ian McCulloch would never say that! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:28:30 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: REAP I must strenuously object to the sacred "REAP" subject line being twisted for unrelated political means. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:33:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: REAP "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" wrote: > I'd vote for Reagan over GWB in a heartbeat if those > were the only two viable candidates. I do not think > Reagan, GHWB, or Gore would have invaded Iraq like > GWB did. Supposedly Pa Bush has been very annoyed with a lot of the ways that his son has been administering his foreign policy, sometimes the content but always the "kiss my ass" overtones that have been so pervasive. Obviously, he won't say anything to that effect publicly -- and to expect him to is ludicrous --but his giving Ted Kennedy (who has been very critical of W at points) his annual award for public service is supposedly an obscure nod to junior to start acting like less of a cowboy. What bothers me more than just the policy decisions this regime has made is the manner in which they've done it; they go out of their way to defame anyone who challenges their assertions, they refuse to ever admit mistakes or even that reasonable people can disagree. Everything is black and white, and it's all about how much everyone else "hates" them. Everything is about them personally. It's what you'd expect from a bunch of people who would take John and Cindy McCain's adoption of a non-white (Indian, I think) child, and use to in push polls to try to make people in South Carolina think McCain had an affair with a black woman (a.k.a. is a "nigger lover"). No, Bush himself isn't evil. But Karl Rove.... ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:34:48 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: naive naive naive I get the feeling this is a naive position of me to have, but I'm glad Kerry won Iowa. - -- Dolph aka "Julian Cope of The Teardrop Explodes. Hallucinogen-addled and dangerous with microphones. Becomes even stranger as time progresses, but still awesome nonetheless. " ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:37:51 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Grieben, griveners, and Reading dope dealers I knew that Sebastian's post would follow Gnat's directly. We had the same stuff when I was a kid, Natalie, but somehow it got pronounced "griveners." It was definitely rendered chicken fat with crispy pieces in it. When we visit my husband's family in Germany, Thomas (husband) LOVES to eat Griebenschmalz, which is rendered pork fat with crispy pieces, on rye bread with salt. The rest of the family looks on with horrified bemusement. Whoever wrote that thing about Philly dope dealers and Reading, it's true. My friend's daughter has had a serious drug problem on and off, and Kate just wants her out of Reading because it's an invitation to trouble. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:39:42 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: several answers, all at once >Many moons ago a friend returned from NZ with a pack of *musk-flavored* >chewing gum. Being curious, I quickly popped a piece in my mouth. Being >disgusted, I very quickly spat it out. > >Musk? Flavored? Gum? What's up with that? I think I'd rather chew kelp >dip and bean lard mulch. never tried it, never intend to. Sounds appalling. Then again, Americans have never understood Marmite, either - and us Brit-born antipodeans have never understood vegemite. >> > > Stewart, you want to try getting a bun, filling it with S&V crisps and >> > > pepperoni salami. I know them as "Explodaphone butties" >> > >> > Shame I can't abide salami. I suspect it of containing pork. >> >>Isn't proper salami horse? > >No. Traditionally, it was made from pork, but now beef and beef/pork >blends are common. and you can get beef salami, so designated, which is guaranteed pork free. I've even seen Halal salami, guaranteed to be in accordance with Islamic law. - --- >From: "Matt Sewell" > >Actually I heard Helen Clark on the radio the other week and it struck me >that her voice sounds like it's been digitally disguised (as in TV progs >who are protecting the anonymity of someone they're interviewing). no, that's how she really sounds. Her voice is deeper than Thatcher's. You can't be a head of state with a voice like Liv Tyler's. - --- oh, and a movie I suggested off-list, but - since it's become an ongoing thread here UI'll suggest on-list as well - The Advocate. Colin Firth as a lawyer told to defend a pig against an accusation of witchcraft. - --- Happy birthday to the Bach-man and the Nupp-ster! And happy Chinese new year to you all. Went to the big fireworks display in town last night and had a fun time. First time I've ever seen a real "lion-dance". - --- according to that quizilla test, I'm apparently Bid. So next time someone asks you "Who's that man - who IS that man?", you can confidently tell them it's me. James (sans any form of moustache) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:42:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? Tom Clark wrote: > Jeff Dwarf at munki1972@yahoo.com wrote: > > >> I'm David Thomas from Pere Ubu, which is weird cuz I > >> don't really like them (nor dislike them; what I've > >> heard from them always just left me non-plussed one > >> way or the other). I was hoping I was Ian McCulloch. > > > > Non-plussed one way or the other? Urgghhhh.... > > See, Ian McCulloch would never say that! Mac would say non-plussed one way or the other, but he'd do it on purpose and only would only get annoyed about it after Julian Cope harping about it and wearing it on t-shirts. And then, Mac's annoyance would be directed at Cope. Or the Duchess of Malfi[o]. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:53:08 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Grieben, griveners, and Reading dope dealers On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Jill Brand wrote: > Whoever wrote that thing about Philly dope dealers and Reading, it's > true. My friend's daughter has had a serious drug problem on and off, > and Kate just wants her out of Reading because it's an invitation to > trouble. This blows my mind. "Philly dope dealers"? As Chris Rock said, nobody ever SOLD anybody drugs. Drugs sell themselves. "Boy, if I just had a market to unload all these drugs!" It doesn't take dealers to create drug problems, it takes users and users are going to turn to something available, whether it's smack, ny-quil or spinning around in the yard until they fall down. Drug dealers don't make drug problems. The problem is the people in the town. Whether it's economically or culturally depressed (or both) is much more of a factor than the easy access to Philadelphia. We don't have a problem with too many people selling drugs, we have a problem with too many people wanting them. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:55:40 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Mac would say non-plussed one way or the other, but he'd do it on > purpose and only would only get annoyed about it after Julian Cope > harping about it and wearing it on t-shirts. Maybe, but would he say, "only would only"? I don't know, I'm just askin'. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:25:15 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? >From: "Brian" >To: "Eat Sausages and Yams" >Subject: Which Post Punk Idol Are You? >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:40:37 -0500 > >Who knew? I'm Ian Curtis. > > Me too. Max _________________________________________________________________ High-speed usersbe more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:39:04 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: tell me about your junk foods On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:56:45 -0500 (EST), "Aaron Mandel" said: > I'm reminded of the abbreviation "w/k end", which a coworker of mine used > to replace "weekend", for a total savings of zero keystrokes. Or the rampant overuse of "@" to replace "at" - which, since it requires use of a held shift-key, uses two fingers (just like "at") but probably induces slightly more strain on them. I blame the Internet - because I can. np: Sin Ropas _Trickboxes on the Pony Line_ - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Miracles are like meatballs, because nobody can exactly agree :: what they are made of, where they come from, or how often :: they should appear. :: --Lemony Snicket ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #20 *******************************